Here Today... Gone To Hell!

ok, so with the recent updates we have from the GUNS N Roses website, there is nothing really promoting the upcoming tour, Ironic/weird?
considering, Axl said in his letter last year that he is going to promote the hell out of this thing "give it the promotion it needs", I know he was talking about chinese democracy release, but this is a tour, cmon...



With still no word of? a single release, and/or album, 30 days to another tour, chinese democracy 2007 world tour (continuation) Can we expect just a single to drop to hell promote the tour? Surely some of the venues gnr played at last year weren't packed to capacity, Has gnr learnt there lesson, and actually create some more buzz by dropping the single.

"if we dont get a notice in less than 15 days about "finished mixing", would mean that we wont get a single or the album at least till after the summer, more likely november/december...

the recent "useless' statements on gnr.com suggest that they are willing to buy their time once more"   ctsy  ; Lucky

I think Axl has everything under control and he doesn't need any "lessons" from any of you but here's to the tour starting in a month! :beer:

None of us are giving him lessons, if anything we are trying to find out if he has a plan, because the last 2 tours, european and american, there wasn't
any single/cd release dates/drops


So could this one be  any  different?


 :beer: to the tour

Concerts with GNR in Brazil, Japan and South Africa will probably sell out anyway...

New single or not...

 
Dont forget Australia, if they decide to ever come here again.... :nervous:

Its the same...(if you know what I mean)

The next tour without Chinese Democracy.Great :(

I just hope the minimum, the absolute Bare Minimum? is we get a single to drop before the tour,


Thats all , And many other fans ask for, and woul be absolutely satisfied with,

anyone else agree with me?

Ya i agree but at the same time im kinda thinking we wont get fuk all but another Tour,Just watch.

my guess is so single, no cd and same set list for this leg.

Yeh, your probably right mate,

But Now is good as time as any to release a single, considering even though the past tour was successful, it could have been way better, ticket wise,
a Single dropped would ENSURE that it would be nearly sold out everywhere, if not all sold out.!

I think it is absolutly stupid to go on tour again without the album being dropped.  It is becoming a big joke.

A tour hasn't been confirmed on the website.

At this point Axl knows 'Better' than to release a single until the album is done and turned in. He knows that he will tinker until he is satisfied and perhaps even he can't speculate on how long that will take. If he realeases the single and then tinkers for another 6 months, it would just add fire to the "where's the album" bad press.

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: yeah he has had everything under control the past 10 years No one ever told me it would take so long I wish I had known Better Better

you're right here...but if they do another tour with no album or single, it will became a laughing matter for the mucis world! So i hope they do something different this time

I think everyone is waiting for Axl to press the big red button.

we have to start the Official tour thread a month before it begins? :hihi:

i mean the band hasnt even really confirmed the dates yet :-\

I think he will, soon.

One day we'll wake up and all will be there. News, the single, the release date, etc.

This is what I think too.

I wouldn't expect anything, but we'll have to wait and see.  As I've said before, this is the final corner of the globe they can possibly tour that has not yet seen the show that the us/europe got last year.  If the album isnt out soon, they'll be touring Antarctica next.

Its anti-climatic to end a successful North American tour without a peep.

I just wish the buzz was still mounting in some obvious and publicly known way instead of feeling like we're back to square 1 all over again :-\

There is just one positive thing.

the tour hasn't been anounced yet but is in a small month.


So that's good news that we will get information within' this month! right or Wrong???

that news could also give us some release info, Album info, single info tracklist info, I think this is just a silence before a big, BIG storm of promotion

Official Updates:

" 18th March, 2007 "

HBK *

Where'd you get this date from?

It's true.

HBK *

A thread about waiting . . . how unusual. :-[

now this is gonna be my new signature...

"GNR never told me it'd take so long
they just tought I'd know Better, Better"

I wonder who will start the "*29 Days till the first tour of 2007- Official Thread*"

The third Chinese Democracy World Tour's going to have to do something BIG to top the last two.

I vote for more confetti.

Where's the Pitman joke? I'm confused...

how about bandanna!
Axl + bandanna + 2007--> tour of the decade!
I guess the whistle before nightrain would be an overkill.

I hope so.  I am ready. 

Maybe we should count in Tuesdays instead.

I honestly am starting to doubt that GNR is actually going to start touring in a month.  I mean who is doing the scheduling/negotiations/travel arrangemenets etc... I wouldnt be surprised if GNR contacted these places in January or earlier and realizing there is no album theyve pulled out. It just seems weird to be going on a world tour and rather than discussing this theyre having a feud with Die Mannequin.  Im all for Axl having feuds, its good publicity, but you have to have feuds with someone who people have actually heard of. 

Highly doubt it.

Gn'R's appearance at the My Coke Festival is pretty much in stone from all information thats surfaced, but beyond that, all the other dates are still just highly speculative at this point.

It appears that GnR' are waiting for something to happen before they officially announce dates. Perhaps they are finalizing other dates and/or waiting for the mixing and mastering on the album to finish before making any further statements about the next few months.

How long is it normally before new dates that we get official word.  If it's less than a month away the silence does seem a bit odd.

Is the title of this thread going to be updated every day then?


 Hopefully you're right and they are waiting to make a big announcement. Tour plans, single, album release, new management, Brains status etc. I won't hold my breath though ?:-\

All the "investigative reporters" (fans) who sent interrogations to BBF, never seemed to ask like "hey so why are you going to japan."  Apparently questions about Spongebob and his favorite color were more important.

What?  What kind of answer is he supposed to give to that.  I'm confused.


"Why are you going to Japan?"


I don't get it.  What am I missing?

BBF can't answer questions about CD, and doesn't like to answer questions about his bandmates.

He's happy to give interviews and talk about other stuff.  He's doing what he can to keep the fans entertained.  Axl's very lucky to have BBF on his team.

Im asking like why didnt anyone ask about the world tour.  Of all the interviews people sent no one asked about this.  Im just saying 30 days before a world tour, the band should have said something and I dont trust promoters one bit.  They often announce bands and ask questions later.

Oh...I see what you meant now.  You made it sort of confusing with the words "why" and "Japan".  But you're right...something like "are you exited about the tour starting in April" would have been a good idea.

someone go do that!quick :hihi:

I don't think a reputable Japanese promoter would set this up for fun:
http://www.creativeman.co.jp/2007/GNR_special/index.html




/jarmo

Not for fun, but with the band doing a lot of tentative and unofficial things.? Like setting tentative release dates, and sending demos to Harley etc... isnt it possible they "tentatively" agreed and the promoter took it as an actual agreement and now theyre not going?

also ive known japanese and chinese guys to set up website a lot more complex than that dedicated to monsters in World of Warcraft so the complexity of a website doesnt mean that much.

Im not saying theyre probably not going, but doesnt it seem kinda fishy that theres no official response etc... you probably know something i dont, but was just speculating.

wouldnt it be simpler if mr Doug Miller earned his pay at MLB/GNR.com and updated the fucking tour list?!




I had a ticket to a tentative date in 2001...
good thing I didnt buy a tentative ticket for the rescheduled 2001 tour.

a lot? lol. He once said "tentative" word in his letter, saying "this is not a promise, a lie or a guarantee" and you still use these words to blame Axl.

you use the word "tentative" when you are fairly certain of something, and have a reasonable chance of making the date, and when you are almost certain you'll make it, not when you want to blow someone off, and there's 5% of it actually happening.

he missed the "tentative" for at least 3 months... how on earth is that "tentative".
I think he never intended of making the date, but was just buying time, and blaming pore old Merck.

im not criticizing Axl for using tentative.  I am saying if they have no manager, and theyre dealing with japanese promoters, isnt it possible that there could be a mixup.  Promoter calls Axl in December "wanna do this show in japan" Axl responds "yeah id like to, pencil me in there might be some complications with the album."  Or something along those lines.  Im not saying definitely, but I just think that the band would say something on the website about the tour.  It just seems kinda odd.  If theres no manager confusion with promoters seems more likely than unlikely imo.

http://www.universal-music.co.jp/u-pop/artist/gnroses/

Universal in Japan even claims that they are tour japan in April... Bullshit? I would think not...

Im not saying its bullshit, but why wouldnt the band mention it on the website at all?  Why no word from BBF about it.  How are they pulling all this off without a manager.  Again, I dont necessarily trust promoters or sites from Japan, because if Harley could misunderstand GNR when GNR had a manager, why couldnt a Japanese promoter.  Thats all im saying.  Not that its bullshit, just offering the idea that possibly the tour isnt happening.

I don't think they have to share every little piece of info about organizing with us to be able to pull things off. Don't you worry, Axl is in control.

HHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA :rofl:  :rofl:  :rofl:  :rofl:  :rofl:   :crying:

wow...and you know this how?  and Axl has proven this when?

For someone who claims to be a fan, you are sickingly negative.

So ill take that as you have no reason or logic as to why people shouldnt worry.  The reason your statement was so funny is what scares me as a fan is Axl being in control...  Its been 15 years since the last album, theyve had 2 tours both of which were ended early and there is no info from the band about this tour.  Theyve cancelled tours before, supposedly have no manager, have confused other companies etc... Its not negativity its just being a realist and not a blind fanboy.  Axl isnt god, he sometimes lets people down.  I dont get mad when he does or doesnt do something, but i still get disappointed.  Axl can do what he wants, its his career/life, but i still can be disappointed if things dont work out.

he loves doing that. He has some friends doing that as well. Oh, well... I don't think Axl needs fan like them, but we can't do nothing...

He knows these shows will sell out regardless.  When an update is needed to sell tickets (such as U.S. tour dates) then the website will be completely revamped...like the last U.S. tour.  It def. helped to sell tickets, maybe not much but enough to keep the tour going.

Yeh,

But I still see, for gnr to make a big impact in sales records when they do this tour, and just to let everyone know that gnr v2.0 is back in business,
they need to At least, the very minimum, drop a single,
just to insure the tour will be a huuuuge success, and not just settle for a succes like the previous tours. :beer:

the only feasible reason for GN'R not to announce the tour dates is that the album relase date is bein finalised. Axl knows if they drop tour dates without mention of the album it is goin to go against everythin he wrote in his open letter.
i wd put my house on an announcement in the next 2 weeks ofthe final release date, the tour dates and the first single to drop the week before the first show
 

I'll take the bet.
when will you give me your house keys?

I'll take that bet too!! ?;)

you can have everythin but me cd collection and guitar haha
come on axl countin on ya now mate

Axl is not stupid, he knows what he has to do and IMO counting the days is pretty stupid unless you do it because you?re attending some concert and are anxious and excited for the date to come.