Here Today... Gone To Hell!

http://spinner.aol.com/rockhall/2007-induction-ceremony

scroll down under "Watch the Big Show" on the right side of the page

Look under Backstage Bits, fourth one down.


Somebody needs to give this guy a fuckin' knuckle sandwich if you ask me

He's still a POS junkie bitch.

Yea, well Scott Weiland can shut up  :P

Heres the link http://us.video.aol.com/snag/?pmmsid=1866670


Nick Lachey? My ass.

And him singing Ain't talkin bout love is AWFUL!

the video wouldnt work, whats he say?

Weiland made a stupid remark....what a dipshit. ?He needs to get over this and lead his own band, VR. ?I'm pretty sure CD will sell more than 1,000,000 copies and then maybe scott can call axl and blow him :hihi:

so whats he say?

leave the poor guy alone....the guy and the band get asked about Axl and CD every where they go....it must gnaw at them....and if you ask me thats the best retaliation.....Weiland is lame...And VRS performance last night was lacking to say the least....but hey there a real band

i was just typing that but you beat me to it. theres no need for that.

Joke's on Weiland, he suck suck suuuuucked last night.

But in fairness, he was baited with the question. He could've said a lot worse. I don't see what the big deal is.


MrLee - the interviewer lady basically asked, which will happen first, CD coming out or Nick Lachey getting into the Rock Hall of fame. Weiland basically said he hopes CD comes out, he and Matt chuckled, then as an afterthought, Weiland added 'If I were to bet between CD going platinum verses Nick Lachey getting into the Rock Hall...my bet is with Nick Lachey'.

what was the question and what did he say!!!?!?!

He's just asking for Axl to call him out at a show.. :hihi:

she asks, what will happen first, Nick Lachey in the hall of fame or Chinese Democracy released? Scott says "Chinese Democracy, but the real question is Nick Lachey in the hall of fame or Chinese Democracy sells 1 million copies ? Nick Lachey in the hall of fame.

 :(

Weiland could have just ended with his 1st reply and left out the 2nd part about CD and selling 1 million copies

hmm i dont think he said anything bad...

he didnt need to make that kind of comment, hes just asking for trouble...but wait,...

YEAH MAN ROCK N ROLL  ::)

Scott Weiland can su*k my di*k, stupid junkie loser.

He needs to know that the 95% of the VR fans are there because of the former members of GNR, and he needs to be prepared to recieve that kind of questions all his life.

This assclown should put more attention on what he sings rather than biting the hand that feeds.

punk

funny i was just thinking of posting this.  scott weiland is truly a bitch and axl's farts have more talent than he does.  it seemed like matt was maybe going to try to be gracious about it but then scott had to go and add that.  i can't wait for cd to drop and go fucking triple platinum on his ass.  i'd also like to add that vr's performance (particularly scott's) was typically horrible and they are unbelievably bland and boring as a band.  by the way i don't think you folks outside the us can watch the aol stuff so keep your eyes peeled on youtube.

Looks like alot of axl nuthuggers are crawling out of the woodwork for this one... ::)? :yes:

I don't see anything wrong with what Scott said, it's just a little jab so what?....





our almighty redhead could also sure use that advice? : ok:? :yes:



*Edit: I'll give this thread about 5 minutes before it ends up in the dead horse section....

I thought Soctts/VR performance was awsome....... i'm expecting Liberated to be 100x better then contraband.  Great coment by scott too.... as stupid as it sounded!! obviously CD will sell more than a million, he knows that, he's just taking a jab at axl.....big fucking deal...good for scott..... but i hope axl makes him look like a fool this year.

It's not going anywhere near the GN'R section....





/jarmo

Well guess that leaves only one option since this is just going to turn into another one of those pointless Vr/GnR debates

700.000+ people, from May to July 06, thought the opposite. Just an example of how wrong you are.

we should not use the same advice for Axl and Weiland, no matter what. Different leagues.

Not that I really care about Weiland's remarks last night....just the same ole petty punches from BOTH sides of the fences (even though I think Axl has ever actually made a statement about Weiland has he other than the press statement that was never officially confirmed). ?Regardless, I think last nights performance was well under par for VR and if that's the level that the band is currently operating at I would be quite more worried about my own situation.

Think about it though...all Weiland has to do is take the high road and say, "eh I don't care when CD comes out."

erh did you not get what I meant with that? because your reply doesn't make sence at all...




yeah I think he should've done that but hey where's the fun in taking the moral high road :P.....

So I guess when VR played at Live8 in London a couple years back all 300,000 people in one day were turning out exclusively for them, because you seem to be insinuating that participating in a festival allows you to claim every ticket sold for yourself?

if ''you're'' is ''your'', then I think I perfectly understood your post.

If Im not wrong, you're suggesting that the 95% of the GNR fans go to the shows for the past members legacy. Am I right?

That's why I replied that. 700.000+ people went to see the current lineup of GNR, and I didnt see any ''bring back adler'' banner on the audience.

Sorry If I understood wrong. English is not my mother language.

Anyway, fuck Weiland  :hihi:

Guns N' Roses headlined 'em all. Several festivals, the biggest in the world. Without an album. Without promotion.

VR played Live 8 in the daylight. After VR set (and the still incomprehensible Weiland rant), other bands played (Robbie Williams included)

the whole you're/your thing was a typo on my part but that didn't have anything to do with the subject of the post.

I think you misread the quote because I quoted it like this:




^^ now that was what I was talking about and I was especially referring to the part I put in bold this time.

Scott is such a worthless piece of shit.

 HAHAHAHAHAHAAHH That was great

This is what we need a geniune FEUD!


This is what makes thing great

Lets hope Axl responds.

What's interesting is that during the entire 2006 GN'R tour, Axl said NOTHING about VR, let alone Scott Weiland.

I think Axl is going to ignore this, just like he ignored Weiland's rant on the VR board (the one that was later removed). Axl knows that he is an icon and doesn't want to get into sparring matches with a middleweight (and I do like Weiland!)

That said, it was just a jab, nothing that hostile. And Weiland will no doubt have to eat his words when Chinese Democracy outsells Libertad....

Axl didn't even mention a word about his own new album or the songs he was playing, so I hardly find that surprising. He was like a robot for much of those shows, and outside of the EODM incident it the tour was pretty much without incident.

Besides, Axl is not in a position to be throwing stones at anyone anymore. He is a middle-aged man living off his past glories. Axl ripping on anyone right now is like the cool kid/jock/high school jock who shows up to his 20th reunion fat and out of shape, yet still pretending to be king of the room. He needs to get his shit together before he worries about escalating or retaliating in any feuds.

^
Damn Naupis, that shit was harsh..............

Can someone rip this video and upload it please. I'm dying to see this. Seems only people in America can get AOL vids, the bastards!

I've seen the band 3 times live the past year, so I am certainly not a "hater", but what part of what I'm saying isn't true? Even if it is a little harsh, Scott can bring a whole lot more to the table in the "what have you done for me lately" category than Axl can. I just get a kick out of everyone getting their panties in a twist whenever anyone says anything about Axl, as the fallback always reverts to him being a bad ass 20 years ago. My whole point was that he needs to get an album out that really takes off before he gets into any feuds, because it would look kind of lame if he had to continually fall back on stuff he accomplished with Scott's bandmates 15-20 years ago as his only means of retort.

dude just because Scott has released a few mediocre albums since Axl's last release, doesn't mean SHIT.    The dude is a poor man's eddie vedder and he will always be a few steps behind Axl in just about every aspect of a bands frontman.

Yeah, Scott never had any success before Slash & Duff started writing records with him. ? ::)

I agree with you to some extent; Axl does need to get an album out and re-launch his career. That said, Axl Rose, even just living on his past glories, is secured as a heavyweight, whereas Weiland will never be anything more than a middleweight.

Before VR, Weiland's career had stalled. If it wasn't for Velvet Revolver, right now Weiland would be playing cubs with Gavin Rosedale.

I don't like what he said and I didn't like his performance either, but I'm not going to call him talentless or gay because of it. :hihi: ?You guys should chill out.

It's not like Slash & Duff were tearing up the music scene before VR either... If it wasn't for Weiland, right now Slash & Duff would have cut short their club tour with Sebastian Bach in support of their album which sold 5,000 copies.

Hmm, maybe 100, 000.

Seriously why does anybody care?

Lol. I think it's cool when they take jabs at each other. He was just fucking with people like you guys!

I thought his comment was pretty fucking funny!? It's not lot a lot different than what some of us have said here!? ?He's just telling the truth, as he sees it. 

Personally, I love a good feud, but his remark just isn't that good...kind of pathetic really, which is even more sad, since it took him a bit to think of it.  The idea that CD WON'T sell a million is pretty silly, if you ask me.   

That said, the thing I'm most annoyed with is that goofy bitch who asked the question.  I mean, VR's nearing completion of a new album, and just performed at the Hall, so she asks about Axl and Nick Lachey?  WTF?     

..the interviewer was looking to get some kind of smartass responce with a question like that...and Scott making cracks about axl is prob really only a responce to getting sick of that kind of question and/or an attempt to show loyality to his bandmates...

at the end of the day...Scott and Axl are both excellent musicans....everything else is pointless!

Yeah, and of course Sorum was arround for a good laugh. He's such a loser. Well, both of them actually. They won't last with that kind of attitude.

Thankx for the tip, your right it's not working.

Hope I'll be able to see it on YouTube.

Your post is kinda troubling as u seem to be an expert on Axl's farts?


WHo gets more negativity from GNR fans:

Scott or Robin

Axl has never dissed anyone-I forgot-it's ok to call James Hetfield a racist, dis your opening band on tour (Eagles of Death Metal), or say that Slash prevented your from making your album (1999-not sure what the holdup has been since then)-I'm just making a point-get off Scott's case for making a joke

I don't see the big deal... The interviewer was trying to instigate shit.   I am sure Scott is tired of all the Gn'R hype that comes along with being in VR as it is..

he has overcome his addiction.

There is far too much Scott hatred in this thread for my liking. What the hell have you really got against the guy? Or would you treat anyone who has the balls to front a band whose line-up includes 3 former members of your (presumably) favourite band like this? ?I mean really! ?A poor man's eddie vedder? Utter bullshit. Scott Weiland has a beautiful, incredible voice and fantastic stage presence. STP held their own regardless of the grunge storm. A fucking great band in my opinion and Core is still in my all time top ten albums.

Sure its just my opinion - but the vitriol against scott here really pisses me off. ? They (VR) are all obviously gonna get asked about axl and CD and there's bound to be some baiting (esp after the words last year) - that must be fairly annoying for them - but it looks like it annoys you more! Thats hilarious!

Back off scott for a second and have a look at his talent - you might surprise yourself.

well its not really that bad of a cut down imo..i mean the album is a joke in the media anyway...

but WTF...why even ask VR about Axl...i say boo to the interviewer for even opening that can of worms..there is alot more people poking fun @ CD than scott, and in alot harsher ways

i dont think what Weiland says was that bad....he knows damn well 'Chinese Democracy" is gong to sell way more than a million copies so I think he was just joking around....if he thinks otherwise he is just insane.....I mean that was a loaded question....it was like they were trying to get Weiland to say something...its rock n' roll...its no different then when Vince Neil was talking shit or Kurt Cobain...its part of the game.....Axl can shut him up real quick by releasing the album and watching sell over a million copies within the first month.....which is a guarantee

please  upload this somewhere, i can't view it on that website becuase you have to be in america

Say what you want about VR, atleast they release records.

This fabled album of his , JOKE


Any band they informs radio stations not to play there music is a joke, demo or not.

As I said when this was posted earlier, he's an asshole.  Both of them are.  And their idiots too.  Way to alienate ALOT of their fans.  Too stupid to realize that a big reason Vr is popular is because of their history with Guns N' Roses.  Alot of their fans like both bands.

After the hype that "The Project" received for a year, ANYONE could've became the lead singer and VR's debut would've been big.

Weiland should be thankful.  And him dissing Axl just shows what a senseless prick he is.

What a sad loser this stupid, talentless clown is :no:
slash and duff should be fucking embarrased to be in a band with this stupid, insecure poser fuck

maybe this should be moved to GnR where is cool to slam Weiland....

what do you think axl would say if they asked him about VR every interview....oh yeah he doesnt do interviews how silly of me ::)

the interveiwer shoulda never brought up Axl inthe first place

wow !look at all the people getting pissed at Scott.

Has to be hard when fucking interviews keep asking questions like that. A think that would get on anybodys nervs.

On the other hand though would be cool to see a good old rock and roll feud.

No, it's better off in the VR section where it's cool to slam Axl

I think that people forget Wieland sold close to 40 million albums before he hooked up with the former GNR cats and the vocals on his solo album and on Tiny Music... were great. I forget though most people don't like guys that can hit a couple octaves and actually sing in key, oh and being able to sound like the album live and not blow your voice out by the third or fourth song. Yeah he is a no talent junkie....

I agree.

where the fuck has anybody slammed axl? i mean what ould you do if your GF's mom kept asking you questions about her ex...i mean seriously, of course hes gonna havea smart ass reply to that disrepectful shit

I'm glad everyone can call Weiland a junkie-he's been clean for a few years now-Izzy Stradlin was on for drugs for years, kicked the habit-is he a junkie also? Please, everyone who is making those remarks about Scott please step up and tell me the difference-also please tell Axl to his face about your opinions on Wes Arkeene (that may be misspelled) and Shannon Hoon-I'm sure he would really appreciate and would like to hear your labels for them also-knock Weiland for his music or remarks, but I guess none of Axl's friends have ever had substance abuse problems

or axl himself for that matter ::)

i agree as well

Why the hell would him jokingly saying something like that alienate fans?, you're overeacting way to much...

funny how the fans who say Slash fans need to move on cuz he left are the first to get their digs in against VR and Scott ::)

Well Slash is Scott's guitarist now in VR so you people need to realize that and go worry about the 3 dudes in NuGnR :hihi:

you know whats funny? the only time there seems to be any activity in the VR section on this board is when it is something concerning Axl Rose.....just a thought......oh yeah and VR are one of my faviorite bands...so im not a VR basher.....

oh ok so VR is your fav band but you think that the singer has no talent...that makes so much sense thanks for clearing it up  ::) :hihi:

Obivously there is lots of activity in here if you ever check it out...but the majority of the board is Pro-Axl so if they see his name and they jump right in.

I'm a fan of both bands...but it really sucks to see people talk shit about someone they know nothing about

The reason is pretty obvious.
Axl is a people magnet and VR is a bore. :hihi:

Let me help you with that quote...

You should be a stand-up comedian.

Ahw gosh thanks for the compliment, how nice of you  :-*

I said VR was ONE of my favorite bands...and I do think that Weiland has very little singing talent..I think he fits the band.but he is kind of an artsy flake if you ask me....if Slash and Duff werent in the band I would not be a fan of them...STP was an ok band in the 90's...honestly Weiland is the only thing im not thrilled with in the band...and most VR fans feel the same way....I have seen them 5 times...and EVERYTIME the crowd is majority GNR fans....riots break out when they play It's so easy...it appears to me that Scott is jealous of Axl...Axl Rose is a household name....if you ask people who Scott Weiland is most people dont know....and his jealousy was evident last year when he put that post on the VR website ripping Axl telling us how many albums he sold with STP.....Weiland is just lucky Cornell was taken at the time they made VR otherwise he would still be unemployed....

I agree as well too.

* I dont like him talking shit about Axl Rose. This is, at least, the third time he does that.
* I dont like him singing in the band that promotes itself as ''3 ex GNR'' (my favourite band, which is in a totally different league than VR [like me and Ronaldinho Gaucho, talking about football]) because it ruins the name/legacy/history of GNR.
* I dont like to read the name ''Scott Weiland'' in a Guns N' Roses forum. But I know there's nothing I can do about it.
* I dont like him singing GN'R songs. He ruins them.
* I didn't like his ''botox face - go to the gym'' posting.
* I think he's the main responsible of the catastrophic Van Halen induction, a band, in my opinion, as big (or even bigger) than Guns N' Roses.
* I think he has no right to talk shit about the man that is the responsible of the 90% of the tickets/albums he sells.

But, just to clarify, I think he used to be a great singer and performance back in STP (band which I love) and I consider ''Core'' one of the best albums of the nineties. I dont deny his skills. I just think he should stop biting the hand that feeds. Let Axl Rose and GNR alone... pay attention to your own things... or is your present based absolutly in that past?

I've met the man a few times and he's always been cool, even in 98 when he was strung out he was still a cool dude. And it appears people only took that line out of my quote, me saying it was sarcasm.

Naw the problem with the induction was having a band that doesn't respect the band they were inducting, inducting them. VH to me has always been lame, its more embarrassing that the VH brothers can't hold it together for 10 minutes and play with their former bandmates.

I think its Slash, Duff, Matt and the whole releasing music thing that has to do with ticket sales.

Scott has nothing to do with GNR's legacy and ruining it, if it does get ruined would be in the hands of the man that controls the brand.

He didn't do anything wrong he was baited into that comment. It's easy for us to bash him, but how many times do we get interviewed and asked the same lameass question?

Keep the personal back and forth to PM's and let's refrain from the "I agree" responses, they add absolutely nothing to the discussion.

On topic, it's beyond me why people (both Scott and Axl fans) take this type of shit so personal.

Bottom line, both are typical front men and usually have an opinion when asked on whatever topic.

Axl fans better get used to this type of thing, he's hardly an industry favorite and leaves himself open to critical commentary by the sheer lack of activity and the utter circus that always has been and always will be GNR (in any form).

That said..

Scott fans need to realize there will be a backlash every time he chooses to respond to questions of this nature, especially when he chooses to answer in a condescending manner. ?If he's gonna talk shit, he's gonna get hammered.

Plain and simple.

some of you ppl need to accept the fact that AXL IS NOT GOD

But he sure comes close :hihi:

 :hihi: :hihi:

As long as your going by the thought that God sure fucks up a lot of things then yea...

Although that's true what else is there to discuss in this thread?
I mean scott said something big deal get over it, that's about all that can be said about this without it turning into another typical VR/GNR thread...

I'll be perfectly happy if this thread gets deleted or locked...

Why, because it makes Weiland look like the idiot that he is?

I guess I am the only one that thought SCott sounded damn good at the HOF...........



U guys need to chill, I think it makes some of u so mad cause their is a hint of truth to what Scott said and it brings out the fans insecurities.

There are no Guarantees this album will sell.

People are still stuck in this time warp and believe the music world and people everywhere are counting down the days till CD and that isnt true.

If Axl keeps pissing off and alientating radio stations he is gonna definitely have trouble selling records.


VR sold 3 million copies cause they had great singles, great videos and toured their asses off.


I like Axl 100 times more than Scott but Scott has proven he belongs with 3 former GNR members cause he has the triple platinum album and a grammy to prove it.


The new GNR members are the ones who are on the chopping block and they still have to prove they are worthy of being in Guns N Roses. something they won't be able to prove until Axl finally releases this damn album.


time CD comes out there won't even be a market for CD's anymore and it won't go platinum cause it will be all digital.

True.

Axl created God.

erh no because it would mean people like you would stay out of a section you have no business being in...

it was only a joke ....or not? :o

Still I don't get used of seeing to Slash beside with this clown...but, While Velvet Revolvet has the Slash's guitar sound I will like it.

by the way, here is my Ticket for show of VR in Santiago, Chile

(http://img408.imageshack.us/img408/5898/img027ba0.jpg)

Not to drag this off topic further but I believe I can be in any section of the board I like, just like your kind hang out in the GN'R section and criticize Axl and the new band. If you don't like Axl fans around you, go find a VR board. HTGTH is a Guns N' Roses forum.

Dude not to uh spoil your party, but you probably shouldn't pop that photo of your ticket up....there are some extremely talented bootleggers out there that could have that thing duplicated in a second.

^and by quoting it you have made it impossible for him to delete it off the site :-\

Quoting the pic does not help...

I don't see what the big deal is. Weiland just made a little joke. There's no need to take it so personally. If it had been the other way around all you Axlites would be going 'ROCK N'ROLL!', 'yeh you shove it to him Axl!'.  ::)

then don't



Hmm my kind? You are very much welcome to read through my last posts all 51 pages of them good luck finding posts where I'm bashing the new band or axl ?: ok:

Fuck ! Weiland! Stop this shit already !   You're the singer of Slash's new band, we get it.


I swear this is like a spat between two guys over one girl

any chance of an upload?

Axl has been known to bitch about (diss as you put it) people while on stage.

Scott is a fucking pussy and a waste of space.    I dont even know why we are discussing his stupid ass on a GNR forum.  :smoking: 

"Scott Weiland can su*k my di*k, stupid junkie loser."

I'm no fan of Scott, although I find remarks like the one above stupid. If Axl took drugs, you wouln't be calling him a 'junkie loser', you'd be thinking of good things to write, such as, how drugs helped Axl write certain songs, and without the drugs the song woudln't exist  :hihi:

if you think axl hasn't done alot of drugs in his time then you are sorely mistaken....GnR was the definition of Sex Drugs and Rock'n'Roll back in the day, you never knew if youd wake up to hear that one of them was dead...in fact it did happen a couple times lol

Erm, you are aware that this is the VR section mate?  :hihi:

Maybe at your board it would, not here.



This isn't really a VR forum, or a GN'R and VR board. It's GN'R board with a VR section.

Get used to Weiland not getting all the  :love: he gets at other boards.

Asking the majprity of GN'R fans to worship Weiland is like expecting GN'R fans to say nice things about Kurt Cobain.



/jarmo

I know it is, and really I don't visit this section all that much because I'm not much of a VR fan and I don't really care about them.   But I couldn't resist this thread.

^^ same here.  honestly, say what you will about stone temple pilots, but scott weiland made a retarded comment coming off a performance that was seriously craptacular.  every time i'm like, "sweet, i could go for some slash right now, i'll give vr a chance," weiland comes out and shouts/talks some gnr covers and unbelievably boring originals and gyrates around like a flamboyant monkey and ruins everything.  the hof performance was a perfect example (not that the rest of the band played that well either).  ultimately its just a little jab, and i don't have a big moral issue with his comment, i'm just making my own comment.  which is, he sucks.  balls.



poor guy!  sorry man its streaming through their special video player i have no idea how one would go about ripping that shit.

Scott "I wish I was Axl" Weiland.

Scott was obviously drunk in the video. i dont think its a big deal maybe Scott is still angry about the fraud comment.

Axl's not the one who called him a fruad.  he was simply repeating what was said.   Weilands attacks were all below the belt and childish.

For God's sake, Weiland didn't even say anything that bad...

It all up to Axl to prove him wrong....

I love Scott as a front man but wish he wouldn't have said that.  He didn't need to. And what's up with Matt laughing?  I thought they were friends again.

In Scott's opinion it was Axl calling him a fraud, so he has a dislike for the guy.


Because it's a laid back interview and they're joking around?!  The poster above is right, Scott didn't say anything that bad and Axl is the one that needs to prove him wrong.

Matt was more of a nervous laugh, not a I agree with u HAHAHAHA laugh but a "Why the fuck are u sayin that" nervous laugh.

 Even if Weiland didn't technically replace Axl in a band, in some ways, he sort of did. A lot of people see Velvet Revolver as GN'R version 2.0. Even though Weiland is an established artist with an impressive resume and is responsible for some of rock's best singles for the last 15 years, he still has to live in Axl's shadow. In every interview, people are going to bring up GN'R and Axl Rose. Like any rock star, Weiland has a huge ego and is probably just a little tired of having to live it down and made a snide remark. Who gives a fuck.

It's funny, that's what happens with Axl all the time.

Fine if you dont like Weiland for any of the reasons given - and yes, I agree he's wandered over the line on a few points recently. His comments on axl last year were overly spiteful.

But I'm taking his current achievements as my benchmark so to speak. I loved STP back in the day and I was SO excited to hear that Scott was gonna be singing with slash, duff, matt - though the combination was truely a super-group in terms of talent and sound.

I have seen VR twice live and was blown away - i personally rate them really high as a live band and I like nearly all of their own material.

Just dont think its fair to call scott a junkie when he isnt.  its weird as sometimes when you dislike a musician for personal reasons - it can cloud your opinion on the whole picture.  For example - I cant bear Billy Corgan for a number of reasons - but I really like the Pumpkins music and can enjoy their records. 

Because he's a DTJ. Always have, always will be. He was also making fun of GN'R in a video interview a few wekks ago.

what a great topic  :hihi: :rofl: :hihi: :rofl: :hihi: :rofl: :hihi: :rofl: :hihi: :rofl:

Axl was a Stone Temple Pilots fan, don't forget for anyone who's questioning Scott-at least Scott admits GNR were an influence

So because Axl allegedly was a Stone Temple Pilot fan Axl fans are supposed to like Scott and vice versa?
Hahaha, that's an argument you might succeed with in kindergarten.

Actually I try to not let bashing continue unabated at my board for any member of GnR or VR....hard to curtail axl critisism though...alot of people are fed up, just cuz Scott makes a joke that a million other peopel have made, people decide to run their mouth like its the biggest travesty to happen to GnR ever, and i still say it wasnt his fault, the dumb interviewer brought it up in the first place and Scott is hardly the type to say "no comment" though he prolly woulda been better off to do just that....

anyway, for all you others, EazyDuzIt comes to mind since he seems the biggest antagoanist that i've seen in here, just cuz axl has a problem with somebody doesnt mean his fans have to too, stop being a sheep...(Nirvana was great, STP was Great and VR is great) if you guys dont like scott then thats cool i guess nothing i can say about it, its just we dont have to get all riled up when then jab comes close to truth....or did i miss somethign and CD seems closer to release then last i checked.

Not every band can have axl as a singer....and thank god for that, we'd never get any new music.

all i can think of when i see this thread is the terrible debacle that the other weiland thread, from last year, became...what was it 90 some pages of "scott is a junkie" or some lame bullshit? i mean c'mon...i guess though it takes pressure of the negativity surrounding GnR at the moment :peace:

anyway i'm sick of defending scott here so this is my last post in this thread...and i dont wanna argue over it anymore especially not with you Jarmo....you got a cool board and i learned alot from how you guys do things, and it helped me learn how to admin my board...anyway no hard feelings jarmo, i hope, i dont wanna leave here, you got the best gnr board goin ;)


actually not to many people know too much about STP or Scott around GnR forums, which is a shame cuz they are missing out, but i understand where the main interest lies in this forum, it just sucks to constantly here the VS arguement over and over and fucking over...and you said it yourself last week or something, the orig intent of the VR sect was to have fans that support both bands come and post...well from this thread you can see that orig vision didnt come to fruition :hihi: :peace: anyway have fun bashing folks : ok:

but i'm sorry, the remark i made was out of line...i apologize, no offense was intended to you or HTGTH :peace:

People need to realize that this is mainly a GN'R board.

Which basically means the majority of the posters come here because of GN'R. Some of them like STP, some can't stand them....

You can't accept everybody to like the singer in STP.



But I do expect people who come to a GN'R board to understand that bashing the band's singer, meaning the band this board is about, is pointless.



/jarmo

Jarmo, can I be a fan of Axl, yet still get frustrated and bash him every now and then on a poor decision?  Or, as an Axl fan, should I blindly shut my mouth and only say nice things.  I am a huge fan of VR.  Right now, I am a fan of weiland, but not a crazy fan of Weilands.  He has faults.  I just hope he keeps trying hard to be the best front man he can be.  Everyone makes mistakes.

No he wasn't, you shouldn't make pointless claims like that...

Since you brought my name up Neemo, I just want you to know that I am not one to be a follower, I support Axl but I still think Scott sucks for my own reasons. : ok:
For you to try to stigmatize people who criticize Scott's comments as sheep, well, that says more about who is the real sheep here than you probably realize.

oh yeah i know you hate him for your own reasons, you already posted your supreme insight here if you forgot....such wonderful ideas and original comments you brought to the thread.








Looks to me like you are jealous that Slash is Playing guitar with Scott instead of Axl...pretty simple to see. You should really accept the fact that GnR has new members now : ok:

Hahaha! That actually made me laugh. I'll keep this short, and then leave this lame thread alone.
First off, you have way too much time on your hands. Second, I couldn't be more happy about the new band and I think Slash not being part of it is for the better. For the record, I have supported this new band from the beginning.

its lame thread but you replied in it like 15 times in the last 4 pages...ok then whatever you say...the only reason its lame is cuz of the lame contributions you made to it. If you support the new gnr band then go support them in the GnR section instead of trolling in the VR section.

and FYI it doesnt take to long to compile quotes when they are basically posted one after the other :P

I never understand why some people feel that to like the new GNR line up you have to hate scott and slash etc...am i the only person around here who likes both?

No you're not :peace:, the problem with the people who feel you can only like one band is that they seem like they're omnipresent because they always feel the need to bash/flame a certain band.

but rest assured there are many people on this board who are more than capable of liking both bands...

like me :) :peace:

yes its cool to like GNR and VR, but you can't expect all GNR fans to be VR fans.   If you want a crowd that will be mostly sympathetic to Weiland, try a VR board.   Obviously on a GNR board not everyone is going to be a fan of him.

I think its really fucking sad that I have to defend Axl Rose to Scott Weiland on a Guns N' Roses board.  :no:

from some of the posts I've seen (most of them not at this board) in the last few days on this subject, I seriously wonder if some of these people actually like Scott more.  :-\

I like both bands too


You know me as a member of GnR sites JB....i'm not saying you cant get a retaliation in but to repeatedly dig at it is pointless. IMO yeah ok we get it you arent happy at scotts comments...but what does his past drug history have to do with the comment he made about Axl? hes been clean for 2 years...and hes hardly talentless...his resume speaks volumes for itself....he has awards that even axl has never acheived...yet hes talentless..ok then whatever.

Persoanlly i could care less about the feud, its when people belittle him, that i have a problem :peace:

No, I thought the whole thing was great..  Aside from Slash's intro..

Yeah, I mean sure, I might get pissy that we get no updates.

But Scott Weiland bashing Axl, well I won't accept that.

I mean buddy you sound like you are fucked on something, and you aren't funny at all.
 
Get some class and you know instead of looking like an asshole, fucking ignore the question or say "No comment"

That link aint working for me its saying it cant be viewed in my area. Could someone please upload it for me?


 :peace:

Sure he did. Do I need to go and look for the link ?

he was interviewed in a street, and being asked about GN'R. He was asked if he saw any GN'R show last year and went on with 'funny' comments. The journalist even had to shut him down.

Scott is a joke.

He said he didn't want to go see the new GN'R because he wasn't invited, then he asked the interviewer if he ever saw the original band.  Then he said he bumped into Axl and they talked things over.  How is that making fun of GN'R?

Yeah, I think you do need to go and look for the link.   ::)

hey can someone upload this to youtube please, seriosiusly

lol if this was back in the early 90s Scott would regret dissing Axl...forever and ever haha...? :rofl:

he said he didn't want to see them because he tought it would be weird, not because he wasn't invited. Then he asked the interviewer if he saw the new band, the guy said yes, Matt asked if they were any good, the guy said they rocked. Matt asked if he saw the original band, with a grin. the interviewer said yes, the original (meaning with Izzy and Steven) and matt was shutted down.

I'm going after the link.

^ There you go -> http://www.lulop.com/player.php/7432/01

 :rofl: Awesome!!

Not that it really matters, but he says quite clearly, "I wasn't invited" when joking around about the question.  So the interviewer shut Matt down after setting up a reaction like that by bringing up the new band?  I hardly see that as "Matt making fun of GN'R and getting told".  Matt's comments were just as harmless as Scott's and some of the reactions to it in this thread were so 'fanatical' that it reminds me why I can barely stand the GN'R section on the board.  It's not like these guys are going around on a "Fuck Axl" tour...  These guys are completely reactive when it comes to their opinion on GN'R.

They got most of that out of their system on VH-1.

a YouTube verison would be good, as the *Weiland disses Axl* cannot be viewed outside the US  :peace:

Sorry, I've seen Scott sober plenty of times and I'm a big fan of his work, I root for him.

He was not sober that night. Absolutely no way.

That's a heavy accusation, hardly based in any kind of substantiated fact.

Those two pin dicks can get fucked. Axl didn't diss them once during the tour as far as I heard. Anything for publicity now their album is due out.

True words. Pathetic behaviour.

Before i die i hope i kick the shit out of scott weiland.

Oh come on - thats too much.

I hope Scott Weiland is kicking the shit out of you as you die.

come on now, no reason to come here and insult the members of the board because they don't like your precious scott weiland.   why don't you go back to mygnr where they appreciate people like you who hate the band.

Nah, I'm fine doing what I do.

When are you coming back to mygnr, Beaver Bob? Surely it's time for another alias and a short-lived posting spree? :hihi:

You should really stay out of VR threads if they upset you so much.

maybe both of you should find a velvet revolver board (and a room possibly) considering neither of you care about, let alone like, GnR 2007.   :confused:    Im allowed to post here in the VR section if I so choose.  : ok:   The thread is about Weiland dissing Axl anyways.  Don't expect Scott to get a whole lot of love around here, because thats just not happening.

difference is, this is a GNR board with a VR section.   not a GNR and VR board.  ask the mods.  :peace:

Dont have to ask them anything thanks, I know what this site is.

Still dont see your point though.

 :peace:

i can`t find any insults from VR members towards axl here... neither scott nor matt said anything bad about him or the new band. i never liked those two guys by the way.... (well, scott was a great singer in STP, matt just plainly sucks)

if you want to find truly pathetic behaviour, look for the letter scott once posted on VR`s official site : ok:

"A fat, talentless fuck" springs to mind, among other kindergarten insults, when scott threw a fit and went completely off the hinges after Axl's letter. Then of course he had it removed from VR's site within hours, either he or others must have thought it portrayed scott like the pathetic, unprofessional junkie loser that he is.

Look at Axl's attempt to break-up Velvet Revolver through a press statement?

You just answered a kindergarten insult with another kindergarten insult. Well done.

well...  it wasn?t axl who wrote that, it was his attorney. according to some rumours it wasn`t exactely planned to come out like that. and there were no insults included by the way, just a description of a visit slash has allegedly taken to axl?s house on october 2005. i highly doubt a lawyer would lie about that kind of stuff in a legal document. that complete issue was based on a misunderstanding by the way. you might remember slash and duff suing axl for stealing their royalties...

by the way: there were big differences between certain members of VR after their tour in support of contraband according to slash. i`m quite sure, they got a grip on that in the last minute....... surprise, surprise: even without axl certain people had problems to keep their band going...

now if you take the time to read the response by scott weiland, who wasn`t even directly involved, you`ll get an idea what childish and pathetic behaviour is......   fortunately the other VR members took care of that very quickly : ok:

I'm not debating whether it's true or not. Only Axl and Slash know what happened for sure.

But, by making it public through a press release, Axl was clearly trying to cause friction between the members of Velvet Revolver. I can't see any other reason for doing it.

Pathetic behaviour from a "frightened little man", imo. : ok:

you know what pathetic behaviour is Dead Flower?  People who come to GNR boards who don't like GNR and only like VR for the sake of bashing Axl Rose.   Again, I point you back to where you came from.   They love that shit there.   Not so much here.

I don't understand why you'd have a VR section if you don't want VR fans posting in that section. :confused:

Oh well, I'll leave it up to the admins of this site. If they ban me, no big deal. :peace:

I won't reapear under a different alias every couple of weeks like certain other people, Jim Bob. :hihi:

its for the GNR fans who want to talk about VR.   :peace:

back on topic, only a fraud would make comments such as weilands.

Whats fradulent about him? The sucesses of STP or all the records VR have sold?  ::)

Bottom Line IMHO:
Axl is a kickass singer - listen to GNRalbums they speak for themselves - there's no need to bag scott just cos we like axl.
And just cos many on here may prefer Axl to Scott, it doesnt make either of them phoney.

For the record I love VR and GNR!

And what about those of us who can't stand VR, not because of Axl but because we think they blow?
Are we not allowed to express our opinions?

Sure you are, but we heard your opinion on VR ages ago. You must be bored to keep wanting to repeat it.

Sorry but people around here need to stop kissing Axl's ass and this is why I dont post around here so much because people take this think so fucking seriously as if it was "their" fued..why cant people accept the fact that Scott can sing better than Axl..cause thats what its really all about....and thats why Axl doesnt even respond or comment because he is not the Axl Rose of the 1990's...he is the Axl Rose of today who needs a break every 5 songs so he can get his shit together.. ::)....and for the record I am fans of both GnR and VR...although STP > GnR...but the fact here is that Scott can sing better than Axl and you can call him a Junkie and whatever...but at least Scott was not stupid enough to include racial slurs in his songs...yeah I know

Hahahahahaha.


/jarmo


PS Hahahahahahaha. Oh wait, you were serious!  :hihi:

can i have some of what you're smoking?

Yeah thats fine...if you don't like VR's music then say so if you want to. But why not keep it about the music ? Why do people have to start up with the "scot is a fraud" and that kind of crap. Like even if one doesn't like his music, he has fronted 2 successful bands...so it makes no sence to call him fraudlent.

Like i say...i like old GNR, I like the new gnr lineup, and I like VR.

Perhaps your not one of them, but it feels like many people around here feel that in order to support axl or express their like of robin or whatever - they have to slander scott or slash.....and to me axl and co are good without the need to resort to such pettiness.

So if you hate their music...keep it about the music.

Damn right I'm serious, but as I said before I enjoy both groups (GnR past & present) but when it comes to real talent you just cant deny or put down Scott Weiland...he HAS done MORE than Axl has.. : ok:

quality over quantity.  I'm not denying Scott is talented and theres some great STP songs, but come on.

Like being a worldwide phenomenon? Oh wait, I forgot no one cared about STP outside the US...

Why can't people accept that 'fact' ... Hmmm ... Because It's not true ?

Maybe that's why.

i wish this would just get locked now. thanks for showing your true colours some of you - makes me think twice about posting in this section again.

Yeah seriously well we are all entitled to our opinions and I have already stated the FACTS..so this debate ..ends....right....about.....here

The facts?

Axl's up there with other legendary frontmen. Robert Plant, Steven Tyler, Mick Jagger etc.


Scott wishes he was.




/jarmo

Can't ignore facts - he speaks the truth

What about you? You're the same people who wonder "Why do people come to the GN'R section just to bash Axl in every thread?".... It's lame either way, regardless of which band the board is for.



Once more for those of us who missed it, was STP popular outside of the US?   ::)

they were popular in canada ;)

Were they a world wide phenomenon like Nirvana or Pearl Jam? No....

I've said it before, they were like Bush (the band). Huge in North America, pretty unknown in Europe.




/jarmo

We're aware of that... but does it really matter?  Everyone is so quick to jump all over D when he mentions how worldwide and enduring Bon Jovi is ("Britney Spears is a worldwide pop-star too, that doesn't mean anything!"), but they use the same argument to defend GN'R when compared to STP.  It's just a repetitive argument that gets brought to the VR section, which I don't understand because it's brought by the same people who say that the "whiners" in the GN'R section sound like a broken record.

Well, as you can see, this guy came to a GN'R board to post his "facts" about how great Scott Weiland and STP are.

http://www.heretodaygonetohell.com/board/index.php?topic=44189.msg903706#msg903706


Makes no sense to me.





/jarmo

I love STP and VR and I do like Scott but Jarmo is right, Seriously Scott is like a B level frontman whereas Axl is a top 10 all time frontman.


If uhad a list of the top 50 frontman

Axl would be no worse then top 10? Scott would be lucky to crack the top 50.


that being said, I don't mind what Scott said, I have always enjoyed feuds plus Axl has the power to shut everybody up and its up to him to do so.

Its not the fans place to fight for Axl, its his place to release the album and shut everyone up.

Why doesnt it make sense Jarmo? Ive stated that I am a fan of both groups...and after all this is the VR section...not the VR BASHING..section..Ive stated my personal opinions and thats that...there are people that agree with me and there are people that dont, its funny how someone who mentions how great VR,STP and Scott and at the same time shows respect for Axl and the new guns is considered a fool or "Anti-Axl"

if you really believe what you are saying you are a fool.

and its not showing respect for Axl or Guns to come to a GNR board and make the ridiculous statements you are making.  ::)

 ::)...*sigh* again Ive stated my opinions on the VR SECTION of the board while at the same time saying I enjoy all the bands....this really should end...right about.....here

I'm not defending what he said at all.  I saw him call it a "fact" and think it's ridiculous... I was making a different point, it just happened to come up after his posts.

That is a bit of a stretch... Axl had his heyday but he doesn't hold a candle to the rock royalty you just named... 

I think he is. Voice, stage presence, knowing how to work a crowd, moves, temper ... He's got all of it.

In any classement or article by rock/music magazines about great vocalists, he always on the top 3/5/10 :yes:

He had his heyday ? Yeah, sure ::) Like it's over now.

I think Jarmo is right in the sence that Axl is a far more iconic rockstar than scott.

If i had to pick between them I far prefer Axl.

However I do also enjoy the music of scott, and it drives me nuts that on this board it seems to be that to like Axl you have to hate scott, or that if you like VR u have to dislike Axl...i dunno its all bullshit to me....I just dig the music!

Did Scott answer questions through a megaphone? 

No, he just wrote an open letter. That way he doesn't have to make good on anything he says.

IS this 'diss' on YouTube yet, as I have still have not viewed it  :peace:

Who really gives a shit, everyone takes everything to heart around here.. If axl would just release cd already then no one could break his balls..   I wonder if VH fans sit around worrying about whatever dlr says or evh of eachother..

What Dave says about Eddie is a hell of a lot different then what scott says about Axl. Scott was never in a band with Axl, and don't even know him personally. So he has no business saying anything about him.

^ Agree

Scott seems like a pussy running his mouth... slash and duff don't go out of their way in a interview to take a cheap shot at axl and scott will. and for what reason? to try and make himself cool... he should let his art do his talking and not act like a  high schooler. i like VR also, but they seem to make it a battle of GnR VS. VR 

Yeh but Scott didn't say anything bad about Axl before Axl made that claim about Slash bashing his bandmates, so it's not like Scott started this little war of words.

I revoke everything I said in this thread.


Scott is an idiot.

I love STP and i love VR but hearing the unmentionable song showed me once again that Axl is light years ahead of Scott in every facet of the musical game. vocally,lyrically,melodically

Scott is a very good frontman but he is a triple A team while Axl is the New York Yankees.

Word!

Scott is a decent front man. I saw him live and he was certainly had a presence but Axl is simply on another level. Scott knows this and knows people look at him as a second class Axl which is why he is insecure about it and needs to make remarks about Axl.

now i love axl and all but at the moment im liking scott ALOT more than axl, maybe if the damn cd would be released i could change my mind but until i see the best cd ever im gonna keep on scotts side

Yeah i agree with that also. Insecure people talk a lot of shit i have learned.

nice post :) : ok:   respect for admitting you were wrong.

Actually no, Scott started talking shit about Axl before that. Remember the show when he went off on Axl just because someone had an Axl sign? Not to mention the fact that his little wife took a cheap shot at him on the vr board a few years back.

You mean like Axl had someone thrown out because he had a Slash sign (/T) ?
Yeah, we read about that...

Axl asked security to get some guy thrown out at RIR3 in 2001.

Scott threw his beloved megaphone at some people in 2004.




/jarmo

Correction Jarmo : Scott threw his beloved megaphone at Axl Rose ass kissers trying to start shit at a VR show...

Correction :Axl had security throw out some Slash ass kisser trying to start shit at a GNR show.

How are the dates significant?




This is exactly what I was talking about. They both talk shit about each other and their respective bands and all this talk about who started what first, is plain childish.

 :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:...btw where is Chinese Democracy?

The dates aren't really significant, what happened is what is really significant. Axl had some guy removed from the show, Scott assaulted people at his show for no reason at all. That's the difference, but I guess what Scott did was ok while what Axl did was not right?  ::)

Cant believe no one has mentioned the St Louis incident where Axl caused a riot by getting upset because someone wanted to take a picture of him. The fans pay your wages Axl - doesn't hurt for a fan to take a photo of you does it, being as you've chosen to be in the public eye and all.

Have you even seen the video of that show? The guy was being an ass the entire night, and he was FILMING the show not taking Axl's picture. Theres a difference between someone filming the show getting his lights punched out and a bunch of people getting hit in the fuckin head with a megaphone because Scott didnt like what kind of sign they have.

Yes, something that happened in 1991 is relevant now.

 : ok:




/jarmo

Some people change over time.....





/jarmo

 Your a decent artist Scott but Axl is amazing and if he wanted to he would break your neck in half and eat it for lunch, don't piss Axl off or your gonna get slapped around

Jeez, is this what the site has been reduced to?!

 :(

im tired of axl vs scott threads too

When Scott talks about Axl, here is what it reminds me of.


Scott is like the chick who picks up the Stud Homecoming King after he got dumped by the homecoming Queen. He is so insecure that the Homecoming King still wants to secretly be with his EX that he goes out of his way to talk shit and try to beat down the Ex out of fear and insecurity that he is really 2nd choice.

What the fuck? Shut the fuck up already....this thread was JUST ABOUT TO DIE, before you had to come in here and say something that other people have already said, we get it already... you dont like Scott Weiland...geez

I believe the man said " Reminds me of " before he listed his thoughts -  Just giving his opinion - you should relax a little - and if the thread bothers you - I have an idea for you......

hmm funny since this is on a gn'r site so scott get rampaged on i find it kinda funny because if axl were to comeout of the blue and just diss scott hmm did that already happen? oh wait slash said it to axl i forgot....yea right b.s. but anyways gn'r fans didn't mind it its nothing but a bunch of hipocrits in here shit im a huge gn'r fan but i happen to admire scott since you knwo he's comeout with albums since 1993 and damn good ones too unlike axl who's last album was a cover album : ok:

I think Weiland only rags on Axl when a reporter asks him about Axl. Cut the guy a little slack.

Because Weiland is in a band with Slash and Duff (and Matt) people are going to think of GN'R and compare him to the singer of that band. Weiland is probably just a little tired and fed up with it.? Weiland, for better or worse, has replaced Axl Rose, the way Sammy Hagar replaced David Lee Roth in Van Halen. And yes, I know, the comparison isn't exactly the same, but I think it's a fair enough analogy.

And I should add, Scott doesn't go out of his way to attack Axl. Weiland has only dissed Axl when fans and reporters shove Axl in his face. How would you like it if you showed up to a gig, gave your heart and soul into a performance, and a couple of dicks held up a sign saying that you weren't as good as another singer? How would you like it if you were trying to promote an album that you worked really hard on and these reporters keep asking about some singer that you have never met?

While Scott's reply to Axl's press release last year was immature,  he no doubt posted it impulsively, and in anger.

If Scott were going out of his way to trash Axl, unprovoked, I'd call him on it, but that is not the case. Cut the dude some slack...And this is coming from a massive Axl fan.

 :beer: Bravo RichardNixon  :peace:

Nicley put Mr. Nixon, that is a great post. Scott Weiland isn't the most stable person in the world and for the amount of times this happens compared to him going off, he's holding up pretty well.

Just look at this past Sunday's performance. After the guys played "It's so Easy" there was this huge Guns n' Roses chant. I can see why VR are gong t stop playing G n' R tunes after the South America tour.

The mainstream media consider the current GnR a joke, not VR, so if anyone is dragging the GnR name through the mud, it's Axl, as Slash claimed. I don't agree with this statement, I'm just pointing out what mainstream media thinks of the situation.
The latter part of that sentence is absurd for so many reasons.

In fairness to Scott, he presumably believes the Slash-turning-up-at-Axls-house story is not true and that Axl made it up. Nobody here knows the truth, but if Scott believes its false, you can understand why he's mad at Axl. Having said that, some people here are overreacting, it was just a joke. Ask a stupid question, get a stupid answer, especially as Scott appeared intoxicated.

can someone put this on youtube for the 6th time please!