Here Today... Gone To Hell!

Has anyone heard who will be performing with Gnr on the next leg of the tour?  Is Brain still spending time with the family, filling in for some dates, or back in full capacity?

My guess will be Frank...

most people woulda been back more quickly than brain after a new born, so i think he's out, we just havent been told yet. But i also get the general impression frank is well liked in the band - as a bandmate and as a drummer.

Who gives a shit?  ???


They're both very talented percussionists.  :beer:

Brain is with his baby.

And according to him, he'll be back to rock out with Axl and the boys in 2007.

So I wouldn't say he's "out".

Maybe the fourth or fifth Chinese Democracy tour will feature him.

Who knows, they say Brain in the band but Frank has been recording so I really don't know.

They said BBF and Frank will have their "presence" felt.

But when asked, Ron said Buckets parts in the bridge in "Better" for example will most likely still be on the album.
So maybe Brain and Frank will both be on the album. :-\

They should have a different drummer for each song, thirteen tracks, thirteen different drummers.
I don't think that's been done before. Go call Dave, Josh and 9 more drummers Axl!

Something is definitely "up" with the whole drumming situation because a band that is entirely happy with their drummer does not bring in another drummer to record on half of the bands songs for their new upcoming album. Women who physically birth a child go on maternity leave for less time than Brain has been gone, so I think that the whole "He's with his baby" thing made for a convenient excuse for Frank's entry into the band.

I believe this also. I mean, how come Brain couldnt play the Cali shows? He played with Bucket a few months ago in Cali, so why couldnt he play with Guns when they played in LA. I think Brain's out, they just havent said anything about it yet.  It doesnt really bother me either way cause I think Frank rules.

Plus on BBF and Frank's podcast, Frank seemed to sound like he was gonna be with Guns for a while.

I think that if Frank was just a replacement it's ridiculous that he needed to "feel his presence" in Chinese Democracy... maybe he is the new drummer n' a time ago (back in 2000 or 2001) Axl mentioned that Freese will be on the album... a lot of time (n' members) passed n' i think Axl want to re-record each part of the albuym that a former member recorded before... just beacause a reason: he's tryin' to show the world that this is a Guns N' Roses record n' there is a band...
Even solo record usually have a band behind so I don't think that the credits will say:
Lead guitars: Bumblefoot, Finck, Buckethead
Rythm Guitars: Tobias, Fortus
Drums: Freese, Brain, Ferrer, etc.
That's probably give the reason to the guys that're telling that this is an Axl solo album...

I think it'll be Frank...I'd prefer Frank  : ok:

Screw Brain give me FRANK!!!!

Wish I had the answer - but trying to figure out the official drummer is or if there is only one official drummer in this fucking band is like trying to figure out why someone would buy a Bon Jovi album ???

frank is the man!!! hard hitting rock drummer!

Frank Rocks

frank is my favourite but either one kix ass.. but frank :headbanger:

exactly-the band should be open and truthful to its fans about the drummer situation. not just vague and meaningless words. is he gonna play with the band again or not? yes or no...

Brain, as he came up with all the beats for the album. All Frank has done is emulate Brain.
Having said that, maybe Frank is the man, as isn't part of the new Gn'R all about emulation :hihi:

Brain is a fucking great drummer, no doubt about it, but I think we need to start forgeting him...

Hopefully neither.    :no:

Let's just say that my hopes lie w/ someone else.    :yes:




*bba*

don't get your hopes up, you may wish for too much : ok:

Let's just say I'm keeping optimistic for right now.    : ok:



*bba*

My Favorite & Vote Is For " BRIANIAC ".

hbk *

Ummm most of us here..... As we should!

Brain isn't even listed on the MySpace of Guns N Roses I noticed.  I reckon Brain is out.  I think he left the band.

Thanks for your expert opinion.

And thankyou o so much for that contribution. You could always lock or delete the thread if you dont like it.

Frank mentioned looking forward to going on this tour a few weeks ago when he was on Talking Metal.

You don't think hinting at getting Steven back in the band in a thread about Brain and Frank is pointless?




/jarmo

1 - yes i do.

2 - i didt think that was the post adz was refering to, i took it to be the post immediately above his.

3 - most of the threads on htgth right now are pointless. sorry to be short, im obviously havin a moody day.

Must bet the first band in history that's not able to tell it's fans who their drummer is. GNR is a band, not the Lambert family from Step by Step.

No, at this point it has reached the status of being a franchise. Pieces and parts are interchangeable as long as Axl Rose is on vocals. I mean we have had 25% line-up turnover in just the last year alone. If someone else left tomorrow they would be summarily replaced and life would move on. Just how a sports franchise is, the faces may change but the name remains the same.

A "band" would be someone like Led Zeppelin, who had 4 indisposable parts that were not replaceable. When Bonham died they shut it down, because it wasn't Led Zeppelin without him. That is the true definition of a band.

Chris Pittman should be the new drummer.

Brain is a great drummer, but i don't like him. I preffer Frank, and i think he is in the band.

I like them bouth! But DAMN! Frank has played with TOOL! That says alot.. If Danny Carey let Frank use his drums.. well.. then im more then happy to have Frank in the band...  : ok:

I think both are still in the band. When Brain wants to play he plays, when he doesnt Frank does.

The baby story couldnt have been made up as a cover up Brain's departure as Brain played the 5 Cal/NV shows in september

I am gonna say Frank, I think Brain is out of the band and we don't know officially know it yet.  JMO

screw Danny Carey, Brain is better than all these bastards you guys be talkin about!

My belief is that Brain is out, but GNR don't want to announce it because it would draw too much negative publicity. I can hear the complaints now, "GNR's ever changing line-up, revolving door, etc".

GNR won't ever announce that Frank has replaced Brain. And, eventually all this talk will just fade away as fans just accept Frank as "the drummer'.

Expect the same if there are more personnel changes.

I'd rather have Frank offically replace Brain(if its in fact the case), rather then have to guess like we are...

Its worse to have people not know the drummer, because its already known as the 'revolving door', whats another offical change??

Correct me if I'm wrong, but that's your definition of the word.

Using your logic, GN'R never was a band because they kept going even after Tracii Guns was replaced or when Steven was fired....

Maybe they should've just ended it right after Tracii was gone.  :hihi:




Remember how we didn't know Bumblefoot was in the band until the first show back in May?

Until further notice, the GN'R family has two drummers. Why can't you just accept that?



/jarmo

I think the ONLY reason we currently have "two drummers" is because somebody doesn't want us knowing Brain is gone just yet .    :yes:



*bba*

Who defines what a band is? You?

Some examples:

* AC/DC made his best album, one of the best albums in rock and roll history, inmediatly after replacing the MAIN part of a band: the singer.
* Metallica made one of the best albums of the nineties and, in my opinion, the best of its discography, after replacing the bassist twice (Ron McGovney, Cliff Burton), and its still an active band with a fourth bassist.
* Black Sabbath changed its lineup about 302942035920395 times. Who doubts about its ''band status''?
* The Beatles (the biggest band of all times, all styles) started its career without Ringo Starr. Following your ''band'' definition, they should have terminated the band after it, not including Ringo and never have done albums like ''Let It Be'' or ''Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band''.

Guns N' Roses IS a band. Download one of the many versions of the Rock Am Ring DVD and tell me what do you see onstage. A fucking great band that sounds fucking killer.

Some people started complaing about the changes in the lineup inmediatly AFTER slash gone for good. Do you remember that GNR kept moving after Tracii? then after Adler and after Izzy, one of the two fundamental parts of the band in that moment

And GNR is still moving on.

I like Frank better now purely because he added that kick-ass drums outro on IRS. He seems to genuinely enjoy being in GN'R whereas Brain has made some comments about being in the band that I thought were less than appreciative (e.g. referring to himself as a "hired gun" on one of the hidden pages of his website).

Frank will be the drummer

Was that directed at me?  I wasn't be an ass about it.  I just reckon the drummer left.  I'd be surprised if not, since a stand in drummer doesn't usually go in and record parts on an album...

Just my take.  Don't be such an asshole about it man.  I didn't give you any cause to be so blunt.

Anyways, what's your opinion?

Brain the best the only drummer for guns n' roses

I'd bet on Frank. Both talented drummers though, and either one is good enough for me.

my vote is frank

I think it will be Frank

here here  : ok:! some around here, especially some in higher places ifyouseewhatimean, really should just relax a bit, stop power trippin and/or stop bein so defensive - of themselves and the band, especially axl, but i digress.

Who Adler...  :rofl:

I've gotta say, without looking at bba's posts, but seeing him in different threads, everything points to adler...   :rofl:

he's a joke (adler, in his state of mind)  and is no longer capable of playing for any length of time w/o relapsing or let alone collapsing..I can see it now, as soon  as axl yells "do you know where the fuck you are?"  down goes adler, right off the stool and in steps frank, a former drummer of tool!!!     :beer:

Where do I start....

It causes confusion, controversy, unecessary debate over a thing that should be as clear as day and more fans
getting thrown off the wheel because they feel GNR is not clear enough as to who, what, where and when. It doesnt matter if they feel it's the right thing to do and also maybe the only way etc. It adds fuel to fire to do a thing like that and anounce that GNR got two drummers when we all know that won't really work out. If Frank Ferrer is replacing Brain for his leave of absence so to speak, then say it.

You may know better than most fans, we may know better than most fans, but for the casual GNR listener, having two drummers in a rock band looks un-natural, unclear, unessecary and most of all, confusing.

Im completely aware that Bumblefoot wasnt officially anounced as the guitar player before the shows in May. It was just one tiny difference. One guitar spot was open and we all knew that someone would fill that void. This is different. It's not healthy for the band to be this shallow in their descriptions of current band members.

From www.eatmysilkworms.com, 10 questions with Brain:

10. Have you got any plans to jam with Axl and the boys anytime soon??

"We are gonna Rock out in '07"


I hope it's true...

why bitch so much about the drummer bit?
Frank was on drums in oslo, he did a fuckin great job.
to be honest i am kinda pleased i didn't get the old boring sorum shite(wich is a part i always skip on the old dvds),
sure Brain is a fucking great drummer....but seriously who gives a flying fuck if he's in or out?
there are no official releases to compare neither of them anyway.......
and until there actually is a record, well.....if axl wants 2 drummers fine by me..........

So what youre saying is that GNR to you can have two bass players in their family, a couple of extra guitar players as well? Or why not another keyboard player?

Until further notice of course!  :hihi:

 ;D
if this is what axl wants or needs to finish CD then i have no problem with it, so far he has only worked with pure musical geniouses...although some(buckethead) might have been in only to gain fame and fortune for himself.....but that's ok too cause i like bucket.....
but in the end, until axl comes clean with a date, and the who's who of the band.....he could have friggin 7 guitar players 3 bass players, 14 keybordists, 5 drummers and who knows what not else in the band if that helps to finish the record......after all, we have no idea what the final product will be anyway.
only one things for sure, if axl will include all contributors we'll have a year long reading in the thank you notes and member section of the CD booklet  ::)

Just out of curiosity........

Have you been banned from here b4 and are currently using a new alias ?? ? ???? ?

You seem a little familiar ?? ? ?::)




*bba*?

nope.....have just been snoopin around reading stuff before..........
but your point being?
as for the statement you quoted i don't really think anyone is to picky on who uncle axl collaborates with....everyone wants the same thing, for him to start releasing material again.
to me gnr has always been and will always be axl rose, anyone else is just the means to an end.......sure if they are cool guys and rock as hard as axl, no problem......but when this thing turns into the neverending story, fans, yes FANS do get dissapointed......axl has the skills and know how to do this, and yes i agree with the vision of not giving away anything less than perfect. but we are goin on almost 16 years since new original material surfaced through official channels......and well, the lack of info is depressing.....what they oughta too like other bands do is give us something....i don't think it's an unreasonable desire for us to know now  that they have made it official that the mixing has begun to update ther webiste say on a weekly basis, this has happened this is done.
then again, the problem is: axl is axl......sure he can be the worlds greatest asshole at times, but he is also one of the greatest frontmen of out time and a pure genious, so we overlook his imperfections.....but as fans we an only do so much, endless support and love.....but c'mon man, even a dog gets a bone every now and then.

Exact... It's True, "BRIANIAC" Rulez !!!

hbk *

I've thought the same thing for years. He's made a few comments like that, kind of like, he's only there for the paycheck. When he told the fan in response to when CD would be released that Axl didn't want to come out of the house, I knew he would be gone at some point.

Frank seems to really love being a member of GNR.

I have also said this many times.  I agree with you guys.

Brain is by far and away the most talented drummer gnr has ever had minus Josh Freeze, if you don't want him in the band... welll.....

 :nervous:

ever hear of sarcasm? well brain likes to use it ::)

When he said that? and to who? ??? ???

The irony is still lost on some people  :no:......It's almost dramatic now.

In serious interviews he has said he loves being in GNR and he's not a hired gun in there.