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Title: Better - the facts (Read now to avoid confusion) Post by: jarmo on March 09, 2007, 08:05:12 PM Here are the facts about the Better track you might have heard on the radio:
If somebody says otherwise, it's simply not true. /jarmo Title: Re: Better - the facts (Read now to avoid confusion) Post by: JuicySwoos on March 09, 2007, 08:09:03 PM Thank you!!! People are more apt to stop with the goofy theories if this comes from you!
Title: Re: Better - the facts (Read now to avoid confusion) Post by: EFISH on March 09, 2007, 08:10:30 PM I don't think theyll put out a single until the mixing/mastering is 100% completed, and the record company gives the album a thumbs up to be released. As soon as that happens, a single will probably be announced along with a release date.
Title: Re: Better - the facts (Read now to avoid confusion) Post by: Jackamo! on March 09, 2007, 08:14:37 PM Just like the leaks from last year. ::)
Title: Re: Better - the facts (Read now to avoid confusion) Post by: Voodoochild on March 09, 2007, 08:16:15 PM Thanks for this, jarmo.
It shouldn't need something like this to see the facts. But anyways, always good to have someone to clarify. Title: Re: Better - the facts (Read now to avoid confusion) Post by: Edward Rose on March 09, 2007, 08:17:30 PM Yeah, sorry if you think we can all wake up one day (2/21) and dozens of National DJ's all conspired at once on the same day to break the law.... and no CAD orders were sent out... and the song is still being played on dozens of stations. But it's your bb and you're the boss. : ok:
I only presented a theory, but this obviously disturbs some posters who think Axl will hold their hand through every part of the album release process. Title: Re: Better - the facts (Read now to avoid confusion) Post by: russtcb on March 09, 2007, 08:19:38 PM Honestly... In my 20 year history as an avid Guns N' Roses fan, I don't think I've ever been as "on the fence" about a situation/debate as this.
Title: Re: Better - the facts (Read now to avoid confusion) Post by: JuicySwoos on March 09, 2007, 08:19:59 PM Yeah, sorry if you think we can all wake up one day (2/21) and dozens of National DJ's all conspired at once on the same day to break the law.... and no CAD orders were sent out... and the song is still being played on dozens of stations. But it's your bb and you're the boss.? ?: ok: I like your passion. ?You're starting to remind me of the Dave guy who just wouldn't stop about the fire marshall security guard Portland cancelation theories. Title: Re: Better - the facts (Read now to avoid confusion) Post by: EFISH on March 09, 2007, 08:21:04 PM Honestly... In my 20 year history as an avid Guns N' Roses fan, I don't think I've ever been as "on the fence" about a situation/debate as this. Then we need someone to call that station and tell them to play it, and then someone will record the stream. I can record it if I know when it will be played. Title: Re: Better - the facts (Read now to avoid confusion) Post by: Edward Rose on March 09, 2007, 08:21:38 PM Yeah, sorry if you think we can all wake up one day (2/21) and dozens of National DJ's all conspired at once on the same day to break the law.... and no CAD orders were sent out... and the song is still being played on dozens of stations. But it's your bb and you're the boss. : ok: I like your passion. You're starting to remind me of the Dave guy who just wouldn't stop about the fire marshall security guard Portland cancelation theories. I don't know who he was, but if he thought The City of Portland was intent on deliberately causing civil unrest, I would agree. :hihi: Title: Re: Better - the facts (Read now to avoid confusion) Post by: Edward Rose on March 09, 2007, 08:23:22 PM Honestly... In my 20 year history as an avid Guns N' Roses fan, I don't think I've ever been as "on the fence" about a situation/debate as this. Then we need someone to call that station and tell them to play it, and then someone will record the stream. I can record it if I know when it will be played. A stream recording would only cause bitching. It needs to be a recording from a "Stereo" FM radio with great reception. Title: Re: Better - the facts (Read now to avoid confusion) Post by: EFISH on March 09, 2007, 08:24:45 PM Honestly... In my 20 year history as an avid Guns N' Roses fan, I don't think I've ever been as "on the fence" about a situation/debate as this. Then we need someone to call that station and tell them to play it, and then someone will record the stream. I can record it if I know when it will be played. A stream recording would only cause bitching. It needs to be a recording from a "Stereo" FM radio with great reception. Title: Re: Better - the facts (Read now to avoid confusion) Post by: jarmo on March 09, 2007, 08:27:09 PM Yeah, sorry if you think we can all wake up one day (2/21) and dozens of National DJ's all conspired at once on the same day to break the law.... and no CAD orders were sent out... and the song is still being played on dozens of stations. But it's your bb and you're the boss. : ok: I only presented a theory, but this obviously disturbs some posters who think Axl will hold their hand through every part of the album release process. They all went online and got the leak. Did you ever think about that? You are spreading lies. Either you stop, or I'll make you stop. Simple as that. There's no conspiracy here. For those of you thinking about requesting the illegal leak, you're going against what the band wants. This was not meant to be heard because it's not a finished version of the song. It's a work in progress demo. Simple as that, Well then an email to the DJ asking for an MP3 is the way to go. I think that if your theory is right, we will have a good mp3 of it within days at the most. His theory is wrong! Why would his theory be right when you have the facts posted at the top of the page? For fuck's sake. /jarmo Title: Re: Better - the facts (Read now to avoid confusion) Post by: Edward Rose on March 09, 2007, 08:30:47 PM Yeah, sorry if you think we can all wake up one day (2/21) and dozens of National DJ's all conspired at once on the same day to break the law.... and no CAD orders were sent out... and the song is still being played on dozens of stations. But it's your bb and you're the boss. : ok: I only presented a theory, but this obviously disturbs some posters who think Axl will hold their hand through every part of the album release process. They all went online and got the leak. Did you ever think about that? You are spreading lies. Either you stop, or I'll make you stop. Simple as that. There's no conspiracy here. For those of you thinking about requesting the illegal leak, you're going against what the band wants. This was not meant to be heard because it's not a finished version of the song. It's a work in progress demo. Simple as that, Well then an email to the DJ asking for an MP3 is the way to go. I think that if your theory is right, we will have a good mp3 of it within days at the most. His theory is wrong! Why would his theory be right when you have the facts posted at the top of the page? For fuck's sake. /jarmo It's not a lie, it's a theory. And a fact at the top of the page would look better if we were all hearing that Cease and Desists were being sent out. As far as I know, that's not happening. I'm simply trying to express the oppinion of many posters on many bb's that something isn't right. If your info came from the band, than say so. That would clear up allot. Sincerely, ER Title: Re: Better - the facts (Read now to avoid confusion) Post by: jarmo on March 09, 2007, 08:32:27 PM I wouldn't call them facts if I made them up.
And I'd make sure the facts were correct before posting them. /jarmo Title: Re: Better - the facts (Read now to avoid confusion) Post by: EFISH on March 09, 2007, 08:33:31 PM Well then an email to the DJ asking for an MP3 is the way to go. I think that if your theory is right, we will have a good mp3 of it within days at the most. His theory is wrong! Why would his theory be right when you have the facts posted at the top of the page? For fuck's sake. /jarmo Well, moving on..... Edit: And if you say these are the facts, then I will take your word for it. :) Title: Re: Better - the facts (Read now to avoid confusion) Post by: Edward Rose on March 09, 2007, 08:35:35 PM I wouldn't call them facts if I made them up. And I'd make sure the facts were correct before posting them. /jarmo Thank you. : ok: Title: Re: Better - the facts (Read now to avoid confusion) Post by: jarmo on March 09, 2007, 08:37:19 PM Any theory about this leak, that says the otherwise, than what's in the first post in this thread are wrong.
/jarmo Title: Re: Better - the facts (Read now to avoid confusion) Post by: CaughtMeInaComa on March 09, 2007, 09:34:34 PM At least we now know it is an actual version of the song from the band and not a "fanmade version". Thanks!
UMM could this be a collectors item then? ;D Title: Re: Better - the facts (Read now to avoid confusion) Post by: D on March 09, 2007, 09:35:49 PM This damn album is reaching JFK type conspiracy theory status.
GEEZ Title: Re: Better - the facts (Read now to avoid confusion) Post by: cybercurves on March 09, 2007, 10:05:41 PM Here are the facts about the Better track you might have heard on the radio:
If somebody says otherwise, it's simply not true. /jarmo That pretty much sums up the leaks from last year!? I wish everybody would understand that. Title: Re: Better - the facts (Read now to avoid confusion) Post by: bigbri on March 09, 2007, 10:07:22 PM Thanks Jarmo. I'm glad you cleared this up. This is not an official version, and for that I am thankful. Because it sounds like shit.
Title: Re: Better - the facts (Read now to avoid confusion) Post by: Krispy Kreme on March 10, 2007, 12:10:48 AM Here are the facts about the Better track you might have heard on the radio:
If somebody says otherwise, it's simply not true. /jarmo Is this your opinion or does it come from GNR management? It would be nice to know. Title: Re: Better - the facts (Read now to avoid confusion) Post by: jarmo on March 10, 2007, 12:26:34 AM Those are correct facts about the track.
From a reliable source. /jarmo Title: Re: Better - the facts (Read now to avoid confusion) Post by: Super-Ecwfan1 on March 10, 2007, 01:12:57 AM Those are correct facts about the track. From a reliable source. /jarmo So is the source ( or label) gonna take steps to stop the leak and issue cease & desist letters ? Because as of right now the things getting mainstream attention as more and more stations play it. Title: Re: Better - the facts (Read now to avoid confusion) Post by: GNRforever10 on March 10, 2007, 04:02:09 AM Thanks jarmo appreciated! : ok:
Title: Re: Better - the facts (Read now to avoid confusion) Post by: Bucketofguns on March 10, 2007, 09:10:23 AM Those are correct facts about the track. No one is questioning, that this is not what you have been told. However, there are several reasons why that is incorrect spin.From a reliable source. /jarmo These are major stations playing the song, they got it from a CD, the programming directors carefully pick each song on the playlist, DJs now a days get no freedom to play what they want. All program directors are afraid of getting sued, and would only play authorized songs. I used to work in radio, and still have many contacts at WAAF in Boston. A rogue DJ could get away with playing "Better" once or twice, but if it was truely wrong to do so, he would get slapped with a cease and desist order so fast. The IRS leak on Trunk's show was not supposed to happen, and look how fast management worked to hide that, if they really wanted the new version to dissapear, it would happen. Again, I understand your job, and apreciate the special information and presales that you provide, but these are the facts. Title: Re: Better - the facts (Read now to avoid confusion) Post by: slane92 on March 10, 2007, 09:56:42 AM Thanks Jarmo. : ok:
Thats why most GNR fans visit this site, to find out whats really happening. Title: Re: Better - the facts (Read now to avoid confusion) Post by: jarmo on March 10, 2007, 01:05:32 PM These are major stations playing the song, they got it from a CD, the programming directors carefully pick each song on the playlist, DJs now a days get no freedom to play what they want. So you'd rather believe what a few DJs playing the track are saying rather than the actual facts? Just like I've said in the past. Some people won't believe anything from the band's side. ::) /jarmo Title: Re: Better - the facts (Read now to avoid confusion) Post by: a. on March 10, 2007, 02:50:49 PM Glad I still haven't heard this leak. The honeymoon period for these demo's has worn off for me. Looking forward to the real shit soon! :)
a. Title: Re: Better - the facts (Read now to avoid confusion) Post by: Bucketofguns on March 10, 2007, 03:13:05 PM These are major stations playing the song, they got it from a CD, the programming directors carefully pick each song on the playlist, DJs now a days get no freedom to play what they want. So you'd rather believe what a few DJs playing the track are saying rather than the actual facts? Just like I've said in the past. Some people won't believe anything from the band's side. ::) /jarmo I am sure that someone close to the band told you your information, but that doesn't mean that they are telling you the truth 100%. Just as GNR was able to wipe the songs off the radio the first time the leaks popped out, they could do it again if they wanted to, but they are in fact choosing not to, and letting it play out. If I could produce a picture of the album that the stations received, would you believe me then? Title: Re: Better - the facts (Read now to avoid confusion) Post by: jarmo on March 10, 2007, 04:00:58 PM There is no finished album.
The unfinished song leaked. Why is that hard to understand? /jarmo Title: Re: Better - the facts (Read now to avoid confusion) Post by: Tommie on March 10, 2007, 04:41:15 PM Jesus! I think I need a break from the board. It just seems like alot of people are going to great lengths just to argue with Jarmo. Come on people, its his fuckin board! If he tells us something, we should take it as fact, and if he quotes his "source" then we should all just shut up and agree. Hell he's been running this board for ten years, has he every knowingly lied to ANY of us before? Some people just need to grow up and put this whole GnR album in perspective. :rant:
Title: Re: Better - the facts (Read now to avoid confusion) Post by: BurningHills on March 10, 2007, 05:22:18 PM Radio stations are starting to receive cease and desist letters.
I can't say which ones out of confidentiality and my job - but I confirmed with Jarmo that they are starting to arrive. Title: Re: Better - the facts (Read now to avoid confusion) Post by: cybercurves on March 10, 2007, 05:46:23 PM When this "version" leaked last month, it was thought that this was the actual single...that leaked. Non-GNR message boards and non-GNR websites announced shortly after that "the first single leaked, etc. etc.". Then a few days later, GNR's official site announced that the "recording for the album has been completed....as the band is currently mixing". So we know this is NOT the official single since it isn't finished yet. But a lot of radio stations DON'T know that and they started playing it anyways. The problem is that there are so many stations playing the song that it hasn't reached the attention of GNR's legal people....yet. It's impossible to police the whole Country of radio stations at once which is why some stations haven't gotten their CAD order yet.
Title: Re: Better - the facts (Read now to avoid confusion) Post by: PeruvianGorillaGen on March 10, 2007, 05:50:42 PM How on earth can these be "raw demos" when Axl has been touching them up for over 12 years? More like they're putting out feelers to find out if the songs are gonna catch fire or be received like a big steaming "Oh My God."
Title: Re: Better - the facts (Read now to avoid confusion) Post by: jarmo on March 10, 2007, 06:10:00 PM More like they're putting out feelers to find out if the songs are gonna catch fire or be received like a big steaming "Oh My God." Another one who can't read. /jarmo Title: Re: Better - the facts (Read now to avoid confusion) Post by: BurningHills on March 10, 2007, 06:20:36 PM Radio stations are starting to receive cease and desist letters. I can't say which ones out of confidentiality and my job - but I confirmed with Jarmo that they are starting to arrive. I'll quote myself for those that didn't read it the first time around. Title: Re: Better - the facts (Read now to avoid confusion) Post by: Back Off Bitch on March 10, 2007, 06:27:36 PM There is no finished album. The unfinished song leaked. Why is that hard to understand? /jarmo Didn't Del James say it was finished? Or did you mean no completely mixed and mastered album? Title: Re: Better - the facts (Read now to avoid confusion) Post by: Pingouirose on March 10, 2007, 06:31:06 PM Didn't Del James say it was finished? Or did you mean no completely mixed and mastered album? "The good news is that all of the recording for the album has been completed." /Del James Title: Re: Better - the facts (Read now to avoid confusion) Post by: jarmo on March 10, 2007, 06:36:29 PM There is no finished album. The unfinished song leaked. Why is that hard to understand? /jarmo Didn't Del James say it was finished? Or did you mean no completely mixed and mastered album? There is no finished version of Better on the radio. Meaning, a version meant for release. Which would mean it's been mixed, mastered and approved. So I don't understand what finished album these radio DJs are talking about. It doesn't exist. /jarmo Title: Re: Better - the facts (Read now to avoid confusion) Post by: Axlfreek on March 10, 2007, 09:46:00 PM can somebody please explain to me the situation with the Harley Davidson commercial ?
Title: Re: Better - the facts (Read now to avoid confusion) Post by: bigbri on March 10, 2007, 10:04:46 PM I can't believe 2 things: 1) That you all believe GNR leaked this and 2) I said this leak sounded like shit and no one said anything? You'd rather argue with Jarmo! :rofl:
Title: Re: Better - the facts (Read now to avoid confusion) Post by: Howard2k on March 10, 2007, 11:43:36 PM If I could produce a picture of the album that the stations received, would you believe me then? Are you saying you have it?? Or is that hypothetical? Title: Re: Better - the facts (Read now to avoid confusion) Post by: KillKurtzKids on March 11, 2007, 07:14:22 AM Well with all that evidence those sound like some water tight facts to me : ok:
Of course it's not a single, but I still say the timing of the leaks last year and this was AMZINGLY good for launching a tour/keeping people intrested while the record is further delayed. Though I'm sure if they were to intentionally leak a song, Axl's first call would be to the webmaster of a message board to let him know the score! Title: Re: Better - the facts (Read now to avoid confusion) Post by: Howard2k on March 11, 2007, 12:55:12 PM Did we just lose some posts from this thread?
Title: Re: Better - the facts (Read now to avoid confusion) Post by: Axlfreek on March 11, 2007, 03:06:24 PM can somebody please explain to me the situation with the Harley Davidson commercial ? Title: Re: Better - the facts (Read now to avoid confusion) Post by: jarmo on March 11, 2007, 03:06:58 PM can somebody please explain to me the situation with the Harley Davidson commercial ? It didn't happen? /jarmo Title: Re: Better - the facts (Read now to avoid confusion) Post by: cybercurves on March 11, 2007, 03:41:51 PM can somebody please explain to me the situation with the Harley Davidson commercial ? Read the Press Release: http://www.heretodaygonetohell.com/board/index.php?topic=38761.0 The "Paradise City" version did air on TV late last year as planned.? They also planned on airing an alternate version featuring "Better", but it wasn't aired.? Probably due to the fact the album didn't come out.? The "PC" version is currently showing on Harley's website.? Title: Re: Better - the facts (Read now to avoid confusion) Post by: LittleFly on March 11, 2007, 07:35:03 PM I bet the label wants the song out to get interest for the upcoming album, but the band doesn't want it out there because it's unfinished and doesn't sound like the final version.
Probably wrong, but I'm bored and speculating lol ;D Title: Re: Better - the facts (Read now to avoid confusion) Post by: Axlfreek on March 11, 2007, 10:19:47 PM can somebody please explain to me the situation with the Harley Davidson commercial ? Read the Press Release: http://www.heretodaygonetohell.com/board/index.php?topic=38761.0 The "Paradise City" version did air on TV late last year as planned.? They also planned on airing an alternate version featuring "Better", but it wasn't aired.? Probably due to the fact the album didn't come out.? The "PC" version is currently showing on Harley's website.? thanks Title: Re: Better - the facts (Read now to avoid confusion) Post by: Super-Ecwfan1 on March 12, 2007, 02:45:58 AM I bet the label wants the song out to get interest for the upcoming album, but the band doesn't want it out there because it's unfinished and doesn't sound like the final version. Probably wrong, but I'm bored and speculating lol? ;D If thats the case the label will likely always win since they've invested a shitload of money into this. I just wonder if that one poster was right about the DJ's getting CD Copies of the song to play. Title: Re: Better - the facts (Read now to avoid confusion) Post by: Bodhi on March 12, 2007, 02:58:42 AM I bet the label wants the song out to get interest for the upcoming album, but the band doesn't want it out there because it's unfinished and doesn't sound like the final version. Probably wrong, but I'm bored and speculating lol? ;D ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?If thats the case the label will likely always win since they've invested a shitload of money into this. I just wonder if that one poster was right about the DJ's getting CD Copies of the song to play. Dj's have been wrong about Guns N Roses, Axl, and the new album for the past 13 years...why would they all of the sudden be right about this? just more b.s.... Title: Re: Better - the facts (Read now to avoid confusion) Post by: Super-Ecwfan1 on March 12, 2007, 02:34:23 PM But radio's became a more corporate enity today. A lot of them get ordered to play a song and have to listen . I can't really think that all these station managers bandied togethor to stick it Axl Rose to play this song.
Maybe that guy will show us proof. Til then its just a confusing mess . ( Has the label taken action now ? Is there a link to it as news they are issueing cease & desist letters?) Title: Re: Better - the facts (Read now to avoid confusion) Post by: LittleFly on March 12, 2007, 02:51:59 PM I had heard that the cease and desist letters came from Axl's lawyer. That was one of the reasons why I started speculating.
Title: Re: Better - the facts (Read now to avoid confusion) Post by: bigcash2002 on March 12, 2007, 07:29:29 PM I understand that the HD commercial never happened, etc.? However, is it reasonable to think that they provided a mastered copy of Better to HD for use in the commericial?? I would have to imagine they didn't send them a demo to use, right?? So, I am wondering how this copy that HD had never leaked?? I'm sure there were legal documents signed by HD, however, you have to wonder how it never leaked.
Title: Re: Better - the facts (Read now to avoid confusion) Post by: 1987 on March 12, 2007, 11:33:54 PM my post was deleted.. so i guess i was right.. other wise why in the world would it just get deleted.. wasn't argumentitve.. or violate any of the boards rules.. kinda crap if you ask me
Title: Re: Better - the facts (Read now to avoid confusion) Post by: Edward Rose on March 12, 2007, 11:44:11 PM my post was deleted.. so i guess i was right.. other wise why in the world would it just get deleted.. wasn't argumentitve.. or violate any of the boards rules.. kinda crap if you ask me In Jarmo's defense, the exact words you (we) are allowed to use concerning leaks is very complicated. And btw; THANKS DIZZY! :peace: :beer: : ok: Title: Re: Better - the facts (Read now to avoid confusion) Post by: DIABOLIK on March 13, 2007, 06:41:23 AM Thank you Jarmo, between you and Dizzy Reed telling us, it's a pretty safe conclusion that "Better" is a demo....
:beer: Title: Re: Better - the facts (Read now to avoid confusion) Post by: jarmo on March 13, 2007, 01:26:09 PM my post was deleted.. so i guess i was right.. other wise why in the world would it just get deleted.. wasn't argumentitve.. or violate any of the boards rules.. kinda crap if you ask me No. You people still don't get it. We delete bullshit and lies. /jarmo Title: Re: Better - the facts (Read now to avoid confusion) Post by: JM24 on March 14, 2007, 11:14:50 AM my post was deleted.. so i guess i was right.. other wise why in the world would it just get deleted.. wasn't argumentitve.. or violate any of the boards rules.. kinda crap if you ask me That happens here.? I got a smiley deleted, because it might have been assumed to be ironic against him. I think that's a world record in censorship.? ?;D? ? ? All in good spirits, all in good spirits... Title: Re: Better - the facts (Read now to avoid confusion) Post by: jarmo on March 14, 2007, 03:47:44 PM my post was deleted.. so i guess i was right.. other wise why in the world would it just get deleted.. wasn't argumentitve.. or violate any of the boards rules.. kinda crap if you ask me That happens here. I got a smiley deleted, because it might have been assumed to be ironic against him. I think that's a world record in censorship. ;D All in good spirits, all in good spirits... I just love it when clueless people post: Quote If you don't have anything to add to the discussion except "I agree" or just smileys, please don't post in that thread. Lot of people find that kind of posts annoying. Smiley only posts are likely to get deleted since they don't contribute anything to the discussions. http://www.heretodaygonetohell.com/board/index.php?topic=14144.0 /jarmo Title: Re: Better - the facts (Read now to avoid confusion) Post by: crofty on March 15, 2007, 08:16:43 AM If Jarmo gets something from "a reliable source" then I believe him. Didn't we have Axl's letter on here before it was on the official website?
The only way I think this could be innacurate would be if the band/someone VERY close to them lied outright to him. But I don't see why they would. Title: Re: Better - the facts (Read now to avoid confusion) Post by: JM24 on March 15, 2007, 09:59:42 AM Touch? jarmo. Good point, and my bad. Like I said, all in good spirits! ;D ;D ;D Title: Re: Better - the facts (Read now to avoid confusion) Post by: hackvresse on March 16, 2007, 09:04:27 AM Dizzy said that the 2nd leak is the one they send to Harley? Is that right?
because when you listen to the harley clip, it's def. different to the 2nd Better leak.. Title: Re: Better - the facts (Read now to avoid confusion) Post by: WARose on March 16, 2007, 09:28:10 AM it`s not definitely different...
Title: Re: Better - the facts (Read now to avoid confusion) Post by: Voodoochild on March 16, 2007, 09:54:04 AM It is. There's no additional "na na na" backing in the H-D version. Also, the guitars and Axl's are not that loud in the last demo.
Title: Re: Better - the facts (Read now to avoid confusion) Post by: Millions on March 16, 2007, 11:29:41 AM Just to get things back on topic a little...... didn't anyone think it was just a bit odd though that the tracks which leaked just happened to be - conviniently - the ones which featured on the tour. You shouldn't believe everything you hear. I mean, if it was intentional by the band, don't you think some of the money guys at the record company would be just a bit annoyed? So better to play dumb. I don't know where the leak appeared from. A big boy done it and ran away..... Title: Re: Better - the facts (Read now to avoid confusion) Post by: jarmo on March 16, 2007, 12:45:49 PM Just to get things back on topic a little...... didn't anyone think it was just a bit odd though that the tracks which leaked just happened to be - conviniently - the ones which featured on the tour. Oh yes, nobody has thought about that. Truly original. Did you ever think that maybe the band can learn how to play their own songs? Even the ones that leaked? /jarmo Title: Re: Better - the facts (Read now to avoid confusion) Post by: crazycheryl on March 16, 2007, 04:26:05 PM I heard the leak for the first time yesterday on a Chicago radio station and I'm sorry but you could tell it was a demo. The chick on the radio even said she thinks it was downloaded off the web somewhere and it wasn't an official release but fans are so hungry for something new, they still want to hear it.
You could tell it's a demo!!!!!! Do you think Axl would ever release something like that? You have to be a damn fool! Or just a newbie fan who doesn't know better - excuse the pun. I guess fans are so hungry for something, they will take anything. I'll wait for the official release of how it's intended to sound. Title: Re: Better - the facts (Read now to avoid confusion) Post by: hackvresse on March 17, 2007, 08:30:25 AM So Dizzy lied about the HD-Version..
Title: Re: Better - the facts (Read now to avoid confusion) Post by: AxlsMainMan on March 17, 2007, 11:45:30 AM So Dizzy lied about the HD-Version.. You can't handle the truth. Title: Re: Better - the facts (Read now to avoid confusion) Post by: hackvresse on March 17, 2007, 02:22:32 PM So Dizzy lied about the HD-Version.. You can't handle the truth. of course not ::) Title: Re: Better - the facts (Read now to avoid confusion) Post by: beerbelly918 on March 25, 2007, 05:41:18 PM http://www.radioandrecords.com/Formats/Charts/Rock_Chart.asp
Check This out.... Scroll down and look at # 30 Then scroll down and check out most added then reocurrant... This in no way proves the track is a final version but if it was a "leaked" version I don't think it's be on this chart.Just a thought. Title: Re: Better - the facts (Read now to avoid confusion) Post by: jarmo on March 25, 2007, 06:10:56 PM http://www.radioandrecords.com/Formats/Charts/Rock_Chart.asp Check This out.... Scroll down and look at # 30 Then scroll down and check out most added then reocurrant... This in no way proves the track is a final version but if it was a "leaked" version I don't think it's be on this chart.Just a thought. It got played on the radio..... Isn't that chart based on radio play? /jarmo Title: Re: Better - the facts (Read now to avoid confusion) Post by: Warchild on March 26, 2007, 05:07:31 AM Yeah, nothing mysterious here....it's based on simple radioplay statistics........compiled numbers.....sooooo complicated!
KUDOS! WC Title: Re: Better - the facts (Read now to avoid confusion) Post by: blackvelvet on March 29, 2007, 03:26:55 AM I think Ive got to stop being mean to Jarmo.? Im starting to realise how hard his job really is.
And honestly there is no sarcasm in that.? ;D Title: Re: Better - the facts (Read now to avoid confusion) Post by: Howard2k on March 30, 2007, 10:13:38 PM I think Ive got to stop being mean to Jarmo.? Im starting to realise how hard his job really is. And honestly there is no sarcasm in that.? ;D lol, I'm sure it is. |