Here Today... Gone To Hell!

was shadow of your love ever released on any other cd besides Hollywood Rose: Roots of Gnr?

live and let die single..

On the It's so easy/ Mr Brownstone single, which if I believe correctly was their first single and was only released on vinyl.

You can check the 'releases' section on the HTGTH website.

I heard this one on the internet, it's under the name Guns n Roses, and sounds exactly like them in Live Like A Suicide era, I checked the FAQ, and Dead Horse and found nothin. Anyone know anythin about it?

"Shadow Of Your Love" was a b-side to "Live And Let Die."

Its an old song, they played it live in mid 80's I think. Its on a b-side on one of the singles they released, im not sure which one but im sure someone here knows ?;)

It's also on the "It's So Easy" 12" single.



/jarmo

Thanks, I probably sound like an idiot not knowin! But I was still in nappies when all the GnR singles were released! So I don't really know anythin about B-sides or the likes.

You can always get an idea of what's out there by looking at: http://www.heretodaygonetohell.com/releases/index.html

 ;)




/jarmo

There should be a few other b-side and throwaway songs available on the Internet.? Off the top of my head:

Shadow Of Your Love
Bring It Back Home
Sentimental Movie
Cornshucker/Cornchucker
Ain't Goin' Down
Just Another Sunday
Crash Diet

Jarmo, do you have a page for those?

They're mentioned here and there on the site.

I might as well list the unreleased ones on the Releases/Lyrics page.  : ok:


/jarmo

Thanks for all the help everyone.  :peace:

I have a live album (I guess its an import?) called Lies And Dollars, which was recorded at that show at the Ritz where the Knockin' On Heaven's Door video was filmed.  The last song on it is Shadow Of Your Love.  I wonder if that's the version you found on the internet.  Does anybody know anything else about this album?

There are about 5 or so versions of Shadow of your love out there. 2 or 3 are demos and 2 or 3 are live.

Unlike the other songs mentioned, Shadow of your Love is an officially released track.
It just never appeared on any of the albums.
I thought they released a live version and a studio version on different 12" singles, but I could be wrong. The studio version being the one where Axl says "Wake Up..it's time to play" at the beginning of it.
Great raw song that really fit the early GnR attitude.

And of course there's the Hollywood Rose version which was officially released last year.

I didnt want to start a whole new thread on this but i have to know - is the version of shadow of Your Love where it says "Wake up - it's time to play" the Hollywood Rose version?

nope

so there are two different gnr versions as well as the hollywood rose version?

I think these are the official released versions:
1. Hollywood Rose Demo
2. B-side of It's So Easy 12" (from Live Like A Suicide sessions)
3. B-side of Live And Let Die (with wake up.. time to play) Faster version, I guess it's recorded during AFD sessions.

ah right

gotcha

i thought the "wake up..." vers was hollywood rose because the quality isnt that great (but my vers was probably burnt onto cd a a low bitrate)

I've been listening to this song a lot lately - I love it! One of my fav. GN'R songs.

Can't say that I would mind if they busted this one out again!

Thoughts?

Great tune, I've been jamming it reguarly as well, when was the last time it was played live..86'-87'.. ?

Looks like it was last played at the Marquee on June 2, 1987 according to gnrontour.com

Shadow is good, but I prefer Just Another Sunday, thoughts?

No way, Shadow by a long shot.  Just Another Sunday sounds very experimental...perhaps the song could have became something but the demo does it no justice. 

A song I would have liked to have seen worked on and tweaked musically and lyrically was "Sentimental Movie".....I think it could have been a kickass little diddy.

WoW I totally forgot about that song...gotta go find it. : ok:

Axl could tear SOYL up nowadays. Along with SFTD.

Sentimental movie is one of my fav. GNR tunes :)  I think the demo of just another sunday could've been improved also.and I was never that big a fan of soyl ..still a good song though :peace:

yeah shadow of your love is a good tune i used to have but i lost it on my computer :( but if i could choose one song that G'n'R would bring back it would be Crash Diet, great song kick ass solos its just to cool for it to not be on a CD same with shadow and just another sunday. Dont know to much about that other song, Sentimental Movie, i'll have to search for that one. :)

I believe it's Duff and Slash sharing lead vocals on the song.  No Axl, but still a catchy tune.  The lyrics get a little goofy at times, but definitely could have been a nice filler track with a little work.

your right..slash and duff do sing it it goes somethin like

you better change your attitude cause you know you know you want it too
you bring me all your ??? but i know you want it too
i could feed your bounty,if you feed my head as well
and i wont give you empty promises when the quarters in the wishing well

but this aint no sentimental movie,where dreams collect like dust
you talk to me with inoccence in your eyes,so now who can you trust

you think you look so cool,yes you do ,to take me for your fool
itching for your of the heart,baby i want a new start,but dont you be true
i can see through your door,you put my head into the door
you take my heart to the dockside,you put me in the car you take me for another ride

but this aint no sentimental movie where dreams collect like dust
you talk to me with inoccence in your eyes,so now who can you trust..trust trust trust trust

(awesome slash solo 8) )

put a babble to your race,and ill teach an old whore some new pain
the tears you cried,all the tears you cried tonight,you put me down but you cant put me outta site

and this aint no sentimental movie,you push it on,you grab it on but i dont see the tv
this aint no sentimental movie,cant see the screen,your startin to scream,abusin confusin your programs over

(slash starts a solo but keeps singin)

this aint no sentimental movie,you look so good,dont take me for another one of your scenes
this aint no sentimental movie,this aint no sentimental movie
the tears you cried all the tears you cried tonight yeah
this aint no sentimental movie(repeat fade out....)

I like alot of guns n roses music , thoughts?

I like pretty much all Guns N' Roses music :)

Saul  :hihi:

Stuff like this doesn't get old. Thanks for staying around HTGTH just for laughs. Good Times

haha yeah man what he said! :hihi: :peace:

theres a bunch of those un-released songs. i have never heard Cornshucker or sentimental movie. Where would i find those?

Heres a list from wikipedia of all the unreleased GNR songs(ChiDem exluded :hihi:)

    * Bring It Back Home is a song that was recorded during the Use Your Illusion sessions at Rumbo Recorders in Los Angeles, CA.

    * Crash Diet is a song that was recorded during the G N' R Lies sessions at Rumbo Recorders in Los Angeles, CA.

    * Goodnight Tonight is a song that is known only to have been performed once in 1986 at The Roxy.

    * Just Another Sunday is a song that was recorded during the Use Your Illusion sessions at Rumbo Recorders in Los Angeles, CA.

    * Heartbreak Hotel is a Thomas Durden and Mae Boren Axton song, popularized by Elvis Presley, which was recorded by Guns N' Roses during the years leading up to the recording of Appetite for Destruction. The band played the song live a handful of times during 1986. Axl Rose and Izzy Stradlin also played Heartbreak Hotel live at the 1988 MTV Video Music Awards with Tom Petty.

    * Jumpin' Jack Flash is a Rolling Stones song recorded by Guns N' Roses during the years leading up to and including the recording of Appetite for Destruction. It was recorded a few different times in different incarnations; a slow electric and acoustic version are available in the bootlegging community.

    * Sentimental Movie is a song that was recorded during the Use Your Illusion sessions at Rumbo Recorders in Los Angeles, CA. It features bassist Duff McKagan on lead vocals.

    * Ain't Goin' Down was a song that was used in the Guns N' Roses pinball machine. A full-length studio version can be found on various GN'R fansites. It was played live once in 1986 at the Whisky a Go Go in Los Angeles.

    * Too Much Too Soon was also recorded during the UYI sessions.

    * Cornshucker (sometimes called Cornchucker) was written by bassist Duff McKagan and was performed live once. An acoustic version was recorded during the sessions for G N' R Lies. It was considered too obscene to put on the album.

    * It Tastes Good, Don't It? was written by the band during a tour with Iron Maiden. On a bootlegged version of the song, Axl Rose states that they wrote it in an attempt to be kicked off the tour. During the band's early days, they would perform the song live, however, during the Use Your Illusion Tour, Rose would sometimes sing the first verse in the middle of the song Rocket Queen. This can be heard on the second half of the band's Live In Tokyo video.
 

Bring it Back Home is the best unreleased demo, but this topic is Dead Horse anyways.

I'd have to disagree :hihi: my favorite is Sentimental Movie then Crash Diet

Shadow Of Your Love is a great track  :beer:

I would have liked to have seen Shadow Of Your Love apear on the UYI albums more than say KOHD or Live & Let Die.

This is something I've put together over the years and it'll give you an idea of what's been recorded over the years:

http://www.heretodaygonetohell.com/misc/recordingsessions.html



/jarmo

Shadow Of Your Love [It's So Easy 12"]
Shadow Of Your Love [Live And Let Die single]

I never knew Shadow Of Your Love appeared as b-side track. I thought Shadow Of Your Love was simply some very old leaks, like Crash Diet for example. I have 2 version's that appeared on 2 bootleg cd's and the version's that appeared on The Roots of Guns N' Roses. I've never compared them, although of the 2 bootleg versions, one could have been cleaned up for The Roots of Guns N' Roses.

(http://ec1.images-amazon.com/images/P/B00022LJBA.01._AA240_SCLZZZZZZZ_.jpg)
who is he (on the left) and what's he doing these days?
maybe he has a MySpace and could spill some juicy gossip  ;D

that guy is chris webber..he did guitar on the album.dont know anything else about him though sorry

There's two version of Shadow Of Your Love that were officially released:

The demo w/live overdubs and the finished studio take.

Here is the Only Video of the Unreleased Song "It Tastes Good, Dont It?" *BTW, this can be seen for a quick interlude on the UYII DVD, in the middle of Rocket Queen, but this version is full.* ENJOY  :beer: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4805497586174890545

Very impressive list!  But quite a gap between 1998 and 2006, lol.  I'm sure there were quite a few recorded during that period and unless you happened to be in the studio during that time, it's virtually impossible to know exactly. 

i think its a lot like "youre crazy" (afd versoin). its a good listen!  : ok:

love it man thanks alot :peace:

does anyone actually has a compilation of all this demos???

Wrong. Those are all Pre-AFD era demos.

whow man that video is fukin good

I hated when they would do that song.  It is absolutly horrible.  Thank god Axl does not try to be a rapper.  Horrible.

i dont think the crowd is ovedubbed, i think it's a live recording from one of the Marquee shows

Um...

Shadow Of Your Love dates back to at least 1983.

It was officially released a demo w/a overdubbed crowd on various singles in 1987 and a studio version was released as the b-side to Live and Let Die in 1991.

It's not exactly new..

Read the thread before posting.

It's an overdub. I'm 100% sure of it. Play the demo version (I forget which one it is - there's 2 of them) and then play that version right after it. They're identical. The crowd noise is also "generic" like in the rest of the LLAS tracks.

Uhm maybe a misunderstanding. I ment where can u find that song. And that I'm behind on all the new leaks :-P
I limewired it. but i can't find it  :P :P :P

and nvm i found it on Youtube.  and yea, i've heard the song before.

WEll, you're wrong

Yeah - it's a misconception that it's live, since all of the songs on the Live From the Jungle EP are all listed as being from the Marquee. But only It's So Easy, KOHD, and Whole Lotta Rosie are.

Shadow Of Your Love and Move To the City are from the LLAS sessions. Remember - Lies wasn't out yet at that time, so MTTC wasn't as widely heard yet.

slash sings sentimental movie.

The only recording of Sentimental movie I've ever heard is sung by Duff.

How are they pre-AFD demos? The only proper session they had before AFD was to record the LLAS tracks, Jumpin' Jack Flash, Heartbreak Hotel, Shadow Of Your Love, Don't Cry and very early versions of the Appetite songs. I'm fairly certain that they're UYI outtakes.

theres 2 people singing.I always assumed it was Slash and Duff

^ me too.

we're right man,screw twisted ;D

is there a studio version of tastes good?

dont think so ???

You're wrong.  Slash didn't even play guitar on it.  I read a Duff interview that confirmed what I was suspicious of.  Hell, that is blatantly not Slash's style.  Any GnR fan worth shit knows that.

I do kind of agree with you..but do you have any actual proof?link or anything

Ok ...

well, here's a question from Snakepit.org... Slash answers this one personally...


Olivier in Canada writes:
"Do you remember that demo song you did with GNR called "Sentimental Movie"? Any chance of seeing SLASH's Snakepit playing that song one day, live or in the studio? I think the solos on it were just incredible.

SLASH REPLY:
"I didn't have anything to do with "Sentimental Movie". Axl and West Arkeen plus maybe Izzy recorded that one night when we were all hanging out at "Hell House". That's a house we all used to squat at. I can't remember if I put a solo on it or not. But, no, Snakepit will never play that song. I don't even remember how it went it was so long ago."



Ok... so, coupled with the fact that Slash says he didn't have anything to do with it, and can't remember playing on it ... AND the fact that I saw Duff say that Slash didn't play on it ... I think that's solid enough.  :)

agreed!!!!

Its also on a Japanese live EP, that was released on CD, but personally I think its a dreadful song. Axl was asked about it during a radio show by a fan in 1990, and the response he gave was far from flattering as far as I remember

Shadow of your love - I remember this, was a good track years ago but shite today.  Should have been on the Lies EP but guess not.  Whole Lotta Rosie was another B-Side if I remember rightly, ah those were the days!

Could anyone post a link to  Down On the Street?  i had no idea they covered this
thanks

alrighty man thanks :peace:  just wanted a lil bit of actual proof you know :hihi:

oh well..still an awesome song :)

One of the best gnr songs from the AFD sessions, Why was  it was never put on an album.........  :no:

I have Mr. Brownstone on a Tape single still sealed.

-Larry

The only known proper session was the LLAS one. We don't know every lil' session that they did. And, got the info from John M n' a few others.