Here Today... Gone To Hell!

Launch Radio Networks reports: VELVET REVOLVER has been tapped for VAN HALEN's induction into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. The band will perform in VAN HALEN's place, and singer Scott Weiland and guitarist Slash will speak on VAN HALEN's behalf. For now, it doesn't look like David Lee Roth and Sammy Hagar will join VELVET REVOLVER onstage, and Michael Anthony hasn't commented yet. It's still unknown whether Eddie and Alex Van Halen will attend the ceremony.

VELVET REVOLVER just finished recording their new album, titled "Libertad". It should be out this summer, and the band has South American dates with AEROSMITH in April and a possible U.S. tour in May.

Hagar had originally told Launch that he thought the job of inducting VAN HALEN into the Rock Hall would go to his friend and sometime drummer Chad Smith's group. "I was told that they were gonna get the CHILI PEPP ? trying to get the (RED HOT) CHILI PEPPERS to induct us. And I shouldn't, maybe shouldn't be saying this (chuckles), but... letting the cat out of the bag... I said, 'Chad, I think they're gonna ask you guys to do it.'He's going, 'Great, man!'(laughs)"

Smith regularly joins Hagar onstage at the singer's Cabo Wabo Cantina in Mexico, and Hagar told Launch that he, Smith, and Michael Anthony are thinking about making a record under the name CHICKEN FOOT.

FM

What a goddamn shame.

I say this as a huge VH fan and a mild/unimpressed VR follower...


Edit - to settle the argument, yes, John Frusciante can and does tap. You'll only see him do it live during the verses to "Don't Forget Me", but dude can shred. Well. He just chooses not to  : ok:

as much as i love the guys....theres no way scott can sing as high as dave.

And slash doesnt finger tap so hows that gonna work?

and Frusciante does?

how do the peppers come into this, i couldnt give a shit about them lol, id hate them to induct, anthony would struggle his ass off even more to sing a dave song.

Id just like to see a more capable band do it.

I wasn't attacking your post or anything? :-*

But since the peppers were mentioned in the article that's why I asked, anyway it was a serious question because I really haven't got a clue...

ive not seen or heard frusciante tap.

Yep, heard about this earlier today, congrats to the guys for being asked. : ok:

i saw this on Blabbermouth and thought that you'd all like to see it-


http://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=68010


think what you will but i'll be watching. Its just a damn shame that they all can't get along.  :(

Can't wait for the hall of fame :smoking:


:peace:

I second that  :beer:

Although it's a bit weird, I didn't know that any VR guy likes Van Halen.

Really disappointed that Dave and the Van Halen brothers might not even show up to their own induction.

But it will kick ass to see Slash playing some VH licks!  If he can pull it off, major props to him.

I don't think learning to tap along to a few songs will be a big problem for a talent like Slash.

Van Halen fans are up in arms over this

hell yea but EVH and slash are very different in technique , Im wondering how slash will pull this off hahah.

this is bullshit. of all the bands they had to get a shitty band to fill in.

Halen fans must be pissed.

Well, I'm just more pissed off that they keep fucking themselves over (Eddie/Dave/Whoever). I have no problem with VR playing and inducting them.

I'm disappointed that Van Halen won't be playing, but VR will certainly do   :peace:

Well what other kinda popular band is around today that is a direct influence of Van Halen?

I mean it's just doesn't fit VR to do VH IMO , I mean scott doing vocals is odd , and slash doing a EVH solo is like  ??? he himself said that he never uses tapping only when he move a lick up the fret board.

I agree, but at the same time, what other kinda high-profile rock bands are there out there these days that would be any better suited than VR? Axl's current GN'R perhaps?

Fall Out Boy!

(I keed.)  They made the right decision to ask VR to play.

I always thought that when GN'R became popular, and Slash become the new guitar hero, it was like they were the opposite of what Van Halen were about (at least musically).

Sure, both bands  were from L.A., but it's not like you can say AFD sounds like  Van Halen.



Maybe Scott or Dave are huge Van Halen fans...




/jarmo

Slash can tap, chooses not to.  Tapping is not that hard.  Legato is much easier than being an alternate picker in my book.  He won't be awesome at it, but he will do enough to get by.  He did good on the beat it solo with MJ, which was originally recorded by EVH.  I expect him to play his BC Rich. 

I hope they do "Ain't Talkin Bout Love".

Maybe they couldn't get any other super band to perform. Not many left anyway...

Just thinking about it, maybe Axl's current GN'R is better suited to induct them, having someone like Bumblefoot who's more of an Eddie Van Halen style than a Slash.

I think he's even played Van Halen on the last tour during his solo....



Anyway, I just don't know how they picked VR.

It's just not the first band I think of when I think of bands that were influenced by Van Halen.




/jarmo

Yeah, but unfortunately he's not a famous mega rock star.  :(

And his rendition of Eruption was flawless.

I agree Jarmo, but what other rock bands are there that would be more fitting?

I can't think of any other high profile rock band... aside from the new GN'R lineup...

I love that song, and I think Scott could pull that off quite nicely.  I hope he leaves his cop hat at home though.

I think this is pretty awesome, about VR doing this, and can't wait to see it!  VH reminds me, in a way, of some other band we all know.....been through a lot of personnel (although NO ONE can top that other band, in terms of personnel changes!), many internal conflicts, and a member of the band who, apparently, has some issues (Eddie).   So, it's my hope that they can get it together, long enough, to make an appearance. 

well this sucks!!!! let's hope van halen decides to show up!

Maybe Dave has some closet tapping ability.

hopefully dave sings a song with them and mikey and sammy play on the other song with vr

I agree. VR, GNR, or any hard rock band doesn't seem like a suitable presenter.  I'm not sure I can explain it; it is just a gut reaction. If I ran the Hall of Fame, I would have Ray Davies of the Kinks present. As everybody knows, Van Halen had a huge hit with their song "You Really Got Me". It seems to me given Ray Davies rep and the song, it would make more sense.

VAN HALEN's ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME Induction To Air LIVE On VH1 CLASSIC

For the first time ever, VH1 Classic will air the "Rock and Roll Hall of Fame Induction Ceremony" LIVE on Monday, March 12 at 8:30 p.m. ET. Music fans will get to see and hear VAN HALEN, R.E.M., PATTI SMITH, THE RONETTES, and GRANDMASTER FLASH AND THE FURIOUS FIVE get inducted into this esteemed musical institution as the action and music unfolds.

For the first time, this year's induction ceremony will be telecast live from the Waldorf-Astoria Hotel in New York City on VH1 Classic and MHD: MTV Networks' high-definition music channel on Monday, March 12 at 8:30 p.m. ET. In addition, a special two-hour highlight edition will premiere on VH1 on Saturday, March 17 at 9:00 p.m. ET.

Yea so do I ,I agree with the GNR being the kind of opposite of what VH stood for but eh you know its good I guess. Yes I think that seeing the current GNR would have been a way better fit since BF can tap and is more technically suited for most VH songs.

Well, Slash jammed with Sammy Hagar lots of times, and Eddie Van Halen and Slash knows eachothers, I?ve seen photos of them together hugging eachother and looking like friends..  But who said that VR are going to play VH songs, maybe they are playing their own songs?

inducting a band with your own songs? I doubt it ;D

Report: All VAN HALEN Members To Attend ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME Induction

According to Premiere Radio Networks, all the members of VAN HALEN ? Eddie and Alex Van Halen, David Lee Roth, Michael Anthony and Sammy Hagar ? have told the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame that they will be attending the induction ceremony on March 12 in New York. Roth, Anthony and Hagar had said from the start that they would be there, and Premiere Radio Networks learned last night (Thursday, March 1) that Eddie and Alex have reserved a table for themselves and their families. However, they will not be performing. VELVET REVOLVER will pay tribute to them, with the band's Scott Weiland and Slash actually inducting them. This marks the second year in a row that one of the inductees, who are all there and accounted for, will not perform. METALLICA paid tribute to a non-performing BLACK SABBATH last year.

For the first time the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame induction ceremony will be broadcast live on VH1 Classic, and be streamed on AOL without commercials. The ceremony will air on Monday, March 12 at 8:00 p.m. Previous induction ceremonies were only offered on a tape-delay basis on VH1.

wooooooooo!!!!!! broadcasted live!!!!! what else can I ask from life?? finally....

Hmmm I have a feeling they are going to play Runnin' With The Devil , something that strays away from the tapping and such. EVH is more "shred" but has a blues touch to him. Slash always struck me as straight blues rock you know. I can see VR doing justice to that..

they should get crashdiet to do it, im sure there new singer could pull off the vocals.

Fuck! we dont have Dimebag anymore, otherwise.... :yes: 

^ Hell yes RIP to the dime' he would have been perfect he was the biggest VH head around lol.

VR are more than capable of putting on a kick ass performance..... I cannot wait to see this.. I still would have rathers see Dave/Alex/Eddie and Michael do it...

Matt talked quite a bit about this performance on Camp Freddy Radio last night, the Podcast can be found at www.6767.com.? Right hand of the page, click March 3 directly under
CFR Podcast.? Check about 38 minutes in.

My picks for VR to play:

Ain't Talkin 'Bout Love or Mean Street- classics.

Finish What Ya Started- Well known Hagar era song that isn't too lame.

Matt mentioned that may be one of the tunes they'll play.

I wonder which guitar Slash might use for the ceremony.

Falcon, this is killer news.  As I said on page one, I want to hear "Ain't Talkin Bout Love" as it fits Scott's range and Slash's skills.

Garry, I think he would play his Mockingbird because it has the Tremelo Bar and his Paul does not. 

Im willing to bet his BC rich he uses on sucker train or the old red one he used on brownstone and other songs back in the GNR day.

(http://mms.businesswire.com/bwapps/mediaserver/ViewMedia?mgid=85616&vid=3) Perhaps?

You know, as much as I like VR and think it's cool they will play a few VH songs, how lame is it that the VH brothers can't get it together for one night to play with MA, Sammy and Dave....

Hopefully VR will not get caught in the middle........


SAMMY HAGAR Hoping For Peaceful Night At ROCK HALL Induction - Mar. 5, 2007

Launch Radio Networks reports: VAN HALEN will be inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame one week from tonight (Monday, March 12), and there's still some question as to who's going to attend the ceremony. Singers David Lee Roth and Sammy Hagar and former bassist Michael Anthony will all be there, and now Eddie and Alex Van Halen have reserved a table for themselves and their families, according to Premiere Radio Network. However, there is still some doubt that the Van Halen brothers will actually be at the Waldorf Astoria Hotel.

Either way, there are still no plans for the band to perform. VELVET REVOLVER will take the stage in their place, with frontman Scott Weiland and guitarist Slash doing the actual induction speech for VAN HALEN.

Hagar told Launch that he wants everything to go smoothly on the night, but he understands it might not. "I have my hopes and my fears, and my hopes are really that, you know, everyone's just respectful of each other, and happy for each other, and give credit where credit's due, that, you know, none of us would be there, probably, without each other," he said. "And hopefully, everybody's really happy and respectful, and (we) try to make a great thing out of it. And somebody trying to take the credit over someone else would be a bummer. That's my fear, is that, you know, it turns into an ugly thing, and there's an argument, and, you know, (we) start slinging hash at each other."

How many songs did Metallica play for Black Sabbath Last year?

2.

hole in the sky and iron man.

Slash better be on his A+++ game.  Everyone will be judging him in comparison to Eddie, which though not fair, will happen. 

I am interested to see what Slash will do...

Plus, if he messes up, everyone's gonna be like, "Slash needs to go back to rehab!" etc etc....

Yeah, Slash has always been a sloppy-dirty rock guitar player, not a note-for-note shredder, so I hope he plays well too.

His interpretation of the Eddie Van Halen solo in Beat It that he played with Michael Jackson live a few years ago, was um, interesting... :o :hihi:

It was pretty bad.. He looked cool, but the solo....  hmm...

I personally think they should play all DLR VH songs.. Here's why...  If Van Halen ended after Roth, they would still make the HOF.. If Van Halen started with Sammy they would not have ever even came close...

most likely

(http://www.snakepit.org/slashthumout/images/slnamm9.jpg)


(http://pub.tv2.no/multimedia/na/archive/00197/velvet-revolver_197382m.jpg)

or his black one. ATBL was a good choice the solo is like something slash would or can play , and I'd love to hear his take on the main riff. ( reminds me of Aerosmith )

he should borrow one of Eddie's trademark guitars

That's an awesome photo! : ok:

Slash had to play VH before, when he played "Beat It" with Michael Jackson. He changed the solo to suit him. Slash was never from the Vai/VH school of tapping.

But they are celebrating Van Halen's entire career.   Thats stupid.

Beat it and VH are very different styles lol , he changed it to suit him. But this is in honor of the band , and well EVH reputation is T-A-P lol. Exactly Slash is a dirty blues guy not anywhere near the Vai/VH school , so why him to honor EVH ? Ehh we will see.

They should've gotten some players like Vai and Satriani to play tribute, seeing as they've taken the style of EVH and pushed it further.

Metallex, I think Slash will Suprise us! 

I think he will put forth the effort and nail a killer solo.  Hope he goes with ATBL, that song suits him great!

All I know is,

I'm sneaking in : ok:

DAVID LEE ROTH Says He Is Not Allowed To Perform At ROCK HALL Induction - Mar. 8, 2007

Geoff Boucher of the Los Angeles Times reports that David Lee Roth, VAN HALEN's frontman for the band's first decade, said Thursday (March 8) he will not attend the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame ceremony because event officials have turned down his repeated overtures to perform.

"I don't make speeches for a living; I sing and dance for my dinner," Roth said, adding that the decision to skip the event "rips my heart out."

The Hall of Fame's event organizers plan for VELVET REVOLVER to perform some VAN HALEN classics, much as METALLICA stood in last year to play BLACK SABBATH songs while that band's members watched from the audience. "So it appears this is a television producer's decision," Roth said.

The choice of VELVET REVOLVER was in response to a sticky situation as far as what lineup of VAN HALEN could take the stage to perform with Roth. VAN HALEN's revered guitar hero, Eddie Van Halen, and his brother, drummer Alex, had already sent signals that they would not be in New York. The Van Halens have been in lock-down mode since their plans for a summer reunion tour with Roth collapsed last month. Roth said he last spoke to Eddie Van Halen's camp a week ago, and he said he could not determine the truth about reports that the guitarist is seeking help for alcohol problems.

"Ed is indisposed and working toward a better future here," Roth said. "If Ed ever dries up, this is going to be a stadium act, man.... What's happening here with this [New York event] is part and parcel of the same spiral that screwed up the tour."

"It's just not an option for me to go and watch some other band ? who are only performing because they have some new record coming out ? do our music," Roth said. "I have nothing against Velvet Revolver ? I'm not familiar with their music ? but that was my 3 minutes and 22 seconds up there."

Read the entire article at the Los Angeles Times:

http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/news/music/la-et-vanhalen9mar09,0,1661766.story?coll=la-home-entertainment

Here's hoping that our boys take a page from the VH book of fucking up and fucking over the fans....and NOT fuck each other over, the Hall of Fame, and the fans.

VELVET REVOLVER To Perform ROTH And HAGAR Tunes At ROCK HALL - Mar. 9, 2007

Launch Radio Networks reports: VELVET REVOLVER has lined up two songs to perform for VAN HALEN at the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame induction ceremony on Monday (March 12). The band will honor both David Lee Roth and Sammy Hagar by playing a song from their respective eras ? for Roth, VELVET REVOLVER will play 1978's "Ain't Talkin' 'Bout Love", and for Hagar they'll play "Runaround" from 1991.

In addition to the performance at the Waldorf Astoria Hotel in New York City, VELVET REVOLVER frontman Scott Weiland and lead guitarist Slash will induct VAN HALEN into the Rock Hall.

Hagar and original VAN HALEN bassist Michael Anthony will be at the ceremony, but it's unknown whether they will join VELVET REVOLVER on stage for the songs.

Roth says he backed out of the event after he was told he couldn't perform with VELVET REVOLVER. Guitarist Eddie Van Halen announced yesterday (Thursday, March 8) that he's going into rehab, and drummer Alex Van Halen will stay close to home to offer his brother whatever help he can.

The Rock and Roll Hall of Fame induction ceremony, which will also feature R.E.M., PATTI SMITH, THE RONETTES, and GRANDMASTER FLASH & THE FURIOUS FIVE, will air live on VH1 Classic beginning at 8:30 p.m. ET on Monday.

since it's going to be aired, someone will probably rip the audio right? :drool:

Wait did this air already?....

No, it will air live this coming Tuesday.

naah, i'm just kinda bad at english grammar and a lazy typer, i meant "since it's going to be aired", gonna edit it now : ok:

 :hihi: You almost gave me a heart attack 'cause I was planning on watching this? :)

According to this it will air on Monday?

VAN HALEN's ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME Induction To Air LIVE On VH1 CLASSIC

For the first time ever, VH1 Classic will air the "Rock and Roll Hall of Fame Induction Ceremony" LIVE on Monday, March 12 at 8:30 p.m. ET. Music fans will get to see and hear VAN HALEN, R.E.M., PATTI SMITH, THE RONETTES, and GRANDMASTER FLASH AND THE FURIOUS FIVE get inducted into this esteemed musical institution as the action and music unfolds.

For the first time, this year's induction ceremony will be telecast live from the Waldorf-Astoria Hotel in New York City on VH1 Classic and MHD: MTV Networks' high-definition music channel on Monday, March 12 at 8:30 p.m. ET. In addition, a special two-hour highlight edition will premiere on VH1 on Saturday, March 17 at 9:00 p.m. ET.

I want to hear slash's take on runaround , if he'll tap or not lol good choices for songs though can't wait to see this.

What, no songs from the Cherone era?

I'm more interested in hearing Scott trying to sing Sammy Hagar song, their voices couldn't further apart...

And if they're playing two VH songs, it may give us some cool b-sides to the singles they release : ok:

hahah Scott compared to DLR is a giant difference!

Yeah, true, but Ain't Talkin 'bout Love is better suited to Scott's voice than any Sammy Hagar VH song.

It'll definitely be interesting, that's for sure. : ok:

fucking sucks about vh, dlr, eddie with rehab alex not going to be loyal to his brother..



at least that is all good..

think about Kiss ,ace was not even playing with them while some imposter acted like he was a Kiss Guitarist.. Sucks when huge known groups ride the gracy train with new nobodies..

I couldn't be happier with the two VH songs VR is playing. 

They must have read this thread where I stated "Ain't Talkin Bout Love" would suit Slash's skills.

It's a shame Dave wont be there. The idiots running the show wouldn't let Dave play with VR so he backed-down. Can't say I blame him. They are supposed to be honoring a band of which he was part of, and then they wont let him perform. Would have been sweet to see Dave up there with Weiland and Slash.

that would be amazing!!!

runaround and atbl are 2 amazing songs and to hear VR's take on them will be exciting. Who knows they might get thrown in the mix for future shows

Indeed....? :hihi:

It seems that DLR wanted to play "Jump" but VR refused.

http://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=68554

god damn, VR can't play "you really got me" when they are supposed to honor VH it's a mofo kinks song, cover a cover song? no fucking way,

play aint talking 'bout love damn it

Ok then they should play a Gary Cherone song too?  Metallica didn't play and Dio or Gillan era Sabbath songs last year..

ATBL has some of the greatest guitar work of all time. i can't wait to hear slash play it!

that's gonna kick ass!

EVH did a lot of stuff that influenced people but his guitar style really isn't that hard. I mean if you don't know how to do the things then yeah it'd be a little difficult but after you figure out how he's doing what he's doing it's a lot easier.

I honestly think they should have Primus induct them. Not a lot of VH influence but Ler could totally kill anything EVH has ever played or dreamed of playing.

If Dime were still alive I could see him and Vinnie Paul doing it. Dime was a huge VH fan.

Satch has been doing that shit before EVH ever made it big, he was studying music theory and jazz with Billy Bauer and Lenny Tristano and he used to do the two hand tapping playing along with Tristano.

Some of the players he taught to play (he was a teacher) are:

Ler
Hammett
Skolnick from Testament
Steve Vai
Charlie Hunter

So I see it as a burn on Satch to even put him in the "took EVH's style further". Satch was doing that stuff in the early 70's when he was still living on the east coast. Satch's influences were more Hendrix and Jeff Beck. And all EVH has done is make a career of ripping off Jeff Beck and Allan holdsworth, JB was doing taps and shit like that back in the late 60's he was just not as popular.

And I like EVH and I would rather watch him play because when he's on he's great. But he's not the second coming of Jesus on guitar like people make him out to be.

I agree 100%.

He, eddie, does have the go for it attitude.  It either magic, or train wreck, but when he is on, he is awesome!

According to this USA Today article the show is being broadcast live on the internet tonight.
http://www.usatoday.com/life/music/news/2007-03-11-rock-hall-main_N.htm

To view the show on AOL follow this link.
http://spinner.aol.com/rockhall

Also on the AOL page are lots of past speeches and performances including Axl and Bruce.  Just click on the Rock Hall Highlights in the menu on the left side to get to all the highlights.

how many hours left?

I'm guessing there's about 4 hours  left...

then i can probably watch it (if it's broadcasted on internet) even though i have work tomorrow, kick ass :headbanger: i hope i don't forget :hihi:

For VH, they'll probably wait until the end.  Best for last I suppose.

I wish Dave and Sammy were singing with the band. ?Seperatly of course. ?Also, Micheal Anthony kicks ass and should be playing also. ?I don't know why this guy was thrown out of the band just cause he was still friends with Sammy. ?That's gay and who wants to see the 15yr old kid? ?Not me.

I understand that they are going to play "Ain't Talkin 'Bout Love" and "Runaround".  "Runaround' is so lame.

I personally cannot stand VH.  As successful as the band is (no matter which version) you would think they'd all be able to come together for one of their biggest accomplishments.  But after reading a few articles about Roth and everyone else related to the band, and the whole controversy concerning the "real" lead singer, theres just too many pissing matches, and self centered bullshit going on to take any of them serious anymore.

hey guys, I snuck in hung around for a few hours, then got kicked out so i just got home

I saw Eddie's Frankenstrat guitar, but it could have been a copy

Im getting crappy audio on the feed but ehh can't wait to see VR , I was wondering ( after seeing the set me free jam ) think dave will do some soloing haha!!

anyone got a direct link to the stream, or a way for me to access it, only available within the US apparently.

WOAH de la rocha looks different now a days I love how they intro'd him as a RATM memeber not EX , hellll yes  :beer:

seems they could tell i was using a proxy to access the page.  :(


ah well i'll have to watch it on youtube tomorrow.

Thats because Rage Against The Machine has reunited.

Interesting performance, stayed very true to the original ATBL.   

Nice to see Dave playing the EVH guitar.

Slash kinda messed up the intro, but nicely rebounded.  Duff was great in Anthony's shoes.

No comment on Weiland.

Um, was that Runaround they did at the end?

They must've put about 30 seconds worth of "rehearsal" into that.

Thanks for disrespecting one of my favorite bands  : ok:

Exceptions for Matt, Duff and Dave - they did their jobs well. Slash did OK but he seemed somewhere else. I don't care that its rock n' roll, its rude to induct someone and make a speech with notes while wearing sunglasses. I really don't think they would've been there if they didn't have an album coming out. Sad. Pathetic.


If I have to say something nice about that performance, I'll say that since Slash missed the intro to ATBL (which sounded ok - its the easiest Van Halen song to cover with the exception of You Really Got Me), at least we know it was actually live.

Yep, I caught that too, ?absolutely blistering from that point on. ?Agreed on Duff as well, he and Matt definitely held down the fort.


Not horrific by any means, but hardly captivating.

I thought their induction speech was cardboard and without feeling.  All they did was have each member read a line off the cue card like some kinda plastic commercial robots.  Matt Sorum had the most feeling.  Duff was wearing a top hat half the height of Slash's.  Slash did seem somewhere else like someone else said.  He also really screwed the intro to ATBL.  C'mon guys this does not get me excited about "Libertad."

Oh, one more thing.

Major credit to GeraldFord for calling the EVH guitar.  Although Kusher was the one who played it.

"Kinda messed up the intro?????" ?It was very sloppy and so was the rest of it. ?Solo was definitely off as well. ?B/c Ain't Talkin Bout Love is not the hardest VH song, I don't know what this says. ?Slash didn't care, couldn't play it, or Eddie is just that good? ?It's a shame he wasn't there.

All together now, everyone, let's all get together and criticize the performance! ? Every move and every word and every note........... ?::) :P ?

I thought they did pretty good, myself. ?Especially considering the fact that, unfortunately, VH couldn't be all together to perform songs, themselves. ?

is it on you tube?

On that note...what was Weiland saying at the end where Diamond Dave says "if you want it got ta bleed for it baby?" ?If you are honoring the band in inducting them, get the lyrics right!

Let's face it and give them some credit.  No band is going to be able to do a cover song of another band and nail it perfectly and exactly.  They will put their own personality into it.   No one asked them to BE Van Halen!   No one asked Slash to play exactly like Eddie. 

Good point.  Watching the Prince solo from "While My Guitar Gently Weeps" right now, THAT was putting personality into it!

wow, that solo kicked ass. i'm not even a prince fan, but man that won me over...

Defo, Prince really kicked ass.

Not to throw gas on the Prince fire, but DAYUM.? Credit where credit is due.? I think that was from '05.? The dude can flat out get it.

On topic, the boys were OK,?not great by any means.?

I'd label their performance as "serviceable" overall.

it's from 2004:

http://www.warnerreprise.com/asx/tompetty_ghigentlyweeps_300-v.asx

unfortunately i missed VR, but sounds like a so-so performance. oh well, whatever. not a big VH fan anyway...

Prince is beyond amazing.  Having seen him twice on the last tour he did a couple of years back, I was and have since been in awe of his musical genius.  The blistering solos he did both times to close the show with "Purple Rain" were some of the most amazing work I've ever had the privilege to witness.

Great performance by VR

Slash owned ! :beer:

VR pics at the HOF :

http://www.wireimage.com/SearchResults.aspx?igi=263625&s=Velvet%20Revolver&sfld=C&vwmd=e

He owned the intro to ATBL as well as the monotoned frontman owned all of the lyrics.  It's good that SW writes his own music, because he sure as hell can't sing theirs.

From blabbermouth (more pics of the show): http://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=68652

any audio of the preformance yet?

Links by Cowboy Buddha :
From AOL's broadcast.?
xxxhttp://rapidshare.com/files/20786800/Velvet_Revolver_-_Ain_t_Talkin___Bout_Love___Runaround.mp3
xxxhttp://rapidshare.com/files/20786801/Sammy_Hagar_and_Michael_Anthony_with_Paul_Shaffer_-_Why_Can_t_This_Be_Love.mp3

NOTE: remove the "xxx" before the link.

http://www.heretodaygonetohell.com/board/index.php?topic=44162.0

first song pretty much rocked, second song hmm well let's just say it was erhm...interesting? :hihi:
although I have to say that I was pleasantly surprised by the quality of duff's vocals...

Ouch....

http://www.vhlinks.com/vbforums/showthread.php?t=36881

Looks like VH fans aren't too happy...

Hehe I actually think I can understand VH fans for once...

Thanks, but is there another place to download it w/o having to register?

you don't have to register to download it from rapidshare...

I tried to download it and couldn't.... :no:

Hmm in that case try this one:

http://urahost.com/download.php?file=817109

They are bitter because Van Halen didn't play.
A guy shouted "This isn't Van Halen!" during the performance. What a smart guy... When did VR pretend they were VH ? :confused:

Well, I'm not a Van Halen fan and I don't know the songs but I've just listened to the songs (mp3) and I like how it sounds, I don't know how the originals sound but I liked them

I really would like to see a video recording of this. If you have one or have found it on youtube, please post!!!

Slash was good. Weiland was unbelievably bad and his speech was insincere and just down right embarrassing. Duff looked like a clown with that hat on. Matt is just a smug jackass. Dave, I'm neutral on him. I am an old school Van Halen fan and it was a terrible induction. Diamond should have sang on Ain't Talkin Bout Love and it would have been fine. The second song wasn't even a Van Halen song-at least not one that ANYONE could recognize- and the guy yelled "that's not Van Halen" in response. Seriously, that may have been the worst induction I have ever seen. Then, to top it off, they refused to play Jump! They are there to honor the band, not be an asshole over having to get a keyboard player to play some simple chords. Weiland says they don't use keyboards yet they show them in their recording studio for all the world to see on their website? What a joke that asswipe is. Slash is still my boy, but that band will never get a penny of my money as long as that idiot is fronting them. >:(

They did Runaround like that so Sammy and Michael had time perform..

One of the reasons they picked VR was because they were supposed to play for The Sex Pistols last year or something liek that.. But The Sex Pistols put an end to everything...

Anyway, everyone I was watching it with thought VR nailed it big time!!

Plus they had like a weeks notice.. If even that.. Everyone was expecting DLR play with VH for the first time in 23 years... And that isn't making an excuse because short notice ir not, I thought it kicked ass big time.. Much better than I expected.

I hate to say it but I agree 100% with this post. :-\

From the three reviews I heard on the radio this morning, they all said Slash "butchered" the Van Halen song.? :-\

They lied. Slash did a great job.

It was horrible, really awful.  Weiland pranced around the stage like a complete weirdo. The band was off. The band started off with "Ain't Talkin 'Bout Love" and ended with a truncated piece of "Runaround'. "Runaround" was an embarassment. First off, it is minor VH hit and it sounded like nothing. It was unrecognizable.

When the band stopped, you could hear someone scream "That wasn't Van Halen". And, then he yells it again a few seconds later. He was definitely making reference to the horrible interpretation of the VH songs, not the band itself.

That was awful.  I could barely stand to watch it.  I knew Scott would blow the vocals, but it was even worse than I expected and I had no idea what that last bit was.   I was pissed that I stay up to see that crap. 

Scott's vocal style ( and range) is no where close to David Lee Roth's. So expecting him to sound even a little like Van Halen is a stretch. How well could Dave cover a STP or VR song? Slash was ok, but again, he does not play like EVH, so expecting him to sound like that is a stretch as well. They did what they could with a Van Halen song. Did it turn out well? Not really. But to say VR suck is just ignorant.

I hope they forget it and move along. At least they tried, it could have been success but now it wasn't.
We all know that VR, including Scott, can do much better than this.

Some people want to see VR fail. No matter how well VR play, they'll be here posting how awful it sounded.



Yeah sure. ::)

Invalid download link. :no:

David's vocal range isn't that amazing. Infact, Eddie has commented on his limitations during the time David was in the band due to his limited range. As much as I like Dave, Sammy Hagar is a much better singer in terms of range. David isn't a very rangey singer, but I can agree on the style part.  : ok:

megaupload links for those who missed out on cowboy buddha's links ;)

VR-Ain't Talking Bout Love/Run Around (http://www.megaupload.com/?d=ASF748Z1)
Sammy Hagar/Anthony Michael/Paul Scheffer - Why cant this be love (http://www.megaupload.com/?d=Z1EJ99ZA)

Messed up intro, weiland is fuckin laughable (and i do like him :-\)

GN'R didn't perform, so keep them out of this.


I didn't see the performance yet myself.

Judging by the majority of posts, my initial reaction of "Why VR?" might've been correct...


/jarmo

My Review of the Rock N Roll Hall of Fame 2007 Ceremony.

I thought the tribute to the Founder was nice.

I thought the inductiong of the Ronettes was nice, but the bitch's speech took forever.

I thought Aretha Franklin was the shit and Paul Shaffer's band was amazing.

I thought Patti Smith, was, well, fucked up. I did like something about her, but at the same time, couldn't stand that political shit she started pulling. Especially from Zach De La Rocha, her inducter who had to bach Ronald Regan and George W. Bush? What the fuck do they have to do with rock and roll. Shut your pie hole and rock. I hate when politics enter rock. Not necessary.

Grand Master Flash... What a fucking joke. Had to throw the Hip Hop community a bone. What pieces of shit. Look, Rock n Roll is based from Black American music, but, this shit came after rock n roll. They act like these guys are chuck berry or something. Why are we not inducting Jazz and Country guy, and bluegrass, and Classical too then? They are more related to Rock than Hip hop because they came before rock. Terrible.

Van Halen.... Weiland was not respectful, I don't think. I thought the band did good on "Ain't Talkin Bout Love." Sammy and Michael were robbed by not having a real band to play with and having to settle with the house band.... However, SAMMY CAN STILL SING BALLS OUT! Even on the final group jam he shined. Blew Vedder away for sure.

Neil Young and Plant on the Classic from 1995, OMFG!!! What a joke. Neil Young is the worst ever Jesus Buddah Cheif! Ha, just kidding. And Page never soloed. I don't think Young would let him. And why did Plant insist on proving to us what we already know? He can't play guitar, but is still better than Neil Young.

The blues jam with Eric, Buddy, and BB was freaking awesome.

The Cream replay was terrible. Eric was much better with BB than with Cream.

The Prince Performance with Tom Petty!! OMG! Unfucking believeable. It was from 2005. As My Guitar Gently Weeps. He is a stud!! Wow.

REM, again, Vedder is so freaking Lame, but atleast he took the time to put thought in a decent speach. REM did okay, but their guitar player and bass player made way more mistakes than Slash and it was their own fucking song!!!!!

The Final Jam, it was okay. I liked seeing Keith Richards Solo all over the place. I don't like that Steven Stills though. He is was past his prime. And not in the cool way like Keef is.


How the Fuck is REM and Grand Master Flash and Patti Smith all inducted before Guns N Roses? Hmmmm.. Ha!

Is there a video of the VR performance ?

AOL has video of all the performances.  If you use AOL at all, go there.  It has a lot of classic clips too!

www.aol.com 

http://spinner.aol.com/rockhall/2007-induction-ceremony

Better yet.  Navigate from here. 

what a shameful performance for gods sake... What the hell was Weiland singing in Runaround?

I wouldn't like to be a Van Halen fan right now...

OK,

My two cents, coming from a massive fan of VH, STP, GN'R and VR.

"Ain't Talkin 'Bout Love" was pretty cool. Slash messed up the intro, but it was still a good performance. It was at least as good as Van Hagar's live rendition.

"Runaround" is a different story...WHAT THE FUCK WAS THAT? Why didn't they just play the damn song? Why didn't Weiland learn the words? He just yelled "runaround" for two minutes. Had they even rehearsed it once? It would have been cool as a jam, but for inducting the Mighty Van Halen, they should have leaned the song.

Somehow I can't play it in my area ???

Slash didn't play it in ANY way i've ever seen that is the hardest way I've seen. Hmmm like I had said before Slash and EVH leagues apart , he did a good job at getting most of it down. But as with any slash thing it was dirty you know , not perfect. EVH was ( to me ) about guitar perfection. Yea Runaround was retarded hahaha maybe they thought Sammy didn't deserve it.

I thought the way the played "Runaround" was cool--as a jam, but not for inducting Van Halen!

"It's just not an option for me to go and watch some other band ? who are only performing because they have some new record coming out ? do our music.? I have nothing against Velvet Revolver ? I'm not familiar with their music ? but that was my 3 minutes and 22 seconds up there."


- David Lee Roth

he didnt even show...so what's he bitching about ::)

I think he explained it pretty simple.

The Van Halen musical tribute consisted of a hardscrabble performance by Velvet Revolver on "Ain't Talkin' 'Bout Love," followed by a surprisingly rocking Hagar/Paul Shaffer version of "Why Can't This Be Love." Apparently, efforts had been made to involve other Van Halen members in the performance. When asked after the show if Roth had been approached, Velvet Revolver singer Scott Weiland said, "We said that we would do [early Van Halen favorites] 'Jamie's Cryin' ' or 'You Really Got Me,' but he was pretty adamant about doing 'Jump.' But that song's not really us, and we don't have a keyboard player."

http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1554511/20070313/grandmaster_flash.jhtml

Two more reasons why they (VR) shouldn't have been the band to do this "tribute".

What about ''Teddy Zig Zag Andreadis on the harmonica''? I remember reading somewhere, some time ago, that he was going to be added as live keyboardist in VR...

But yes... a keyboardist cant solve Weiland...

weiland is a keyboardist....I dont blame them for not playing it...hey wanna play our signature song?...um no


besides didn't roth bitch that they were in the HoF...now that he's in he doesnt show to the induction...stop being a fucking chick and get up there and play.  ::)

In Roth's defense, "Jump" is the song to play if you are honoring VH's legacy. It was VH's first and only #1 hit single - broke a 10 million record album. "1984".  And, it made them all immortal.  Roth should've been allowed to play that song without being over shadowed by that weak rendition of ATBL and "Runaround". Velvet Revolver made a mockery of VH's induction.

I bet Sammy chose "Why Can't This Be Love" as a metaphor for his feeling "why can't this band just get along?" I want to puke.

Well, we've been following the story for a few months now.  He had no choice but to not show up.  Anthony and Hagar are different, because they still play together.  They always stick together, just like the Van Halen brothers.  Where does this leave Dave?  In Albuquerque with Hope and Faith.

Slash is my fave guitarist, but were you listening to the same performance that I did?? slash totally fucked up the intro to ATBL which is the EASIEST VH song to play. im not even gonna talk about runaround.

the performance was horrible. And they didnt pay any respect to van halen. Reading off a peice of paper stuttering, Weiland saying "Uh" every 2 seconds.

Wasn't bad. ?I thought the band sounded good but don't know if Scott really fit in on that one. ?I kind of wish Sammy and Micheal would have been up there with them. ?

I was also thinking that might have been a good idea.

I agree. ?Only the intro was messed up for Slash. ?Sorum and Duff were killer. ?With Roth on vocals, it would have been killer. ?the Band sound tight and ready to tour. ?Weiland sounded good at times during that song. ?The tried to sing a lil different, and it didn't work.

Well Velvet Revolver I am a bit dissapointed.  They got on stage and I heard the intro to Ain't Talkin' Bout Love, and I was like, "Alright a VH classic." Then I hear Slash mess up which I have NEVER seen in a video before.  And Scott Wheiland was running around stage like a drunk infant who had just learned to speak. So I sat there after ATBL and I was like, "well that was okay."  Then I hear the intro to Runaround and get a bit excited, then I hear Wheiland go "Run, Run, Around," and I thought to myself, "...............what the fuck happened to the first four verses before the chorus."  The song ended after about a minute and a half of Wheiland singing  "Run, Run, Around" and then VR got off the stage.  I was very surprised at this.  I thought VR for sure would have played Panama or Runnin' With The Devil, or Right Now.  But instead they only played 1 and a half songs.....  Anthony and Hagar's "Why Can't This Be Love" was pretty good.  But what a terrible to induct one of the greatest Rock & Roll bands of all time.

I agree that the performance was not very good by any means.  In their defense however, the whole Van Halen/Hall of Fame saga was a disaster from the start.  A month ago when a reunion seemed inevitable it looked as if the induction would've been a great thing.  Then things started to fall apart, and only Sammy and Michael Anthony showed up.  It was just a mess.  No one really wanted to see Velvet Revolver pay tribute to VH (hence the guy screaming, "that wasn't Van Halen" repeatedly after the lackluster performance).  I mean, let's face it, VR just isn't that well known and they were inducting one of the all time great bands, it just didn't make much sense.  They were really in a tough situation.  However, they chose to be a part of it and they really didn't shine too brightly.  I've heard local cover bands pay homage to Van Halen better than they did last night.

So I watched it again last night and still thought it was a good performance..  Slashed fucked up the intro but after that I thought the whole thing was tight as hell. 

Runaround was a different story. I believe they played it like that for a reason obviously. My guess is so that Sam and MA could get out there and play with the house band.

Tomass, I agree.  I just watched it again.  I thought Slash did just fine after the intro and that band is so tight and ready to rock!  I cannot wait!!

I take the same position as tomass and Smoking Guns.  I watched it again, as well, and thought they did just fine.  Those who had high expectations of them sounding like VH (which no one is going to) were going to be disappointed.   

Probably the best his scrambled brain can do at this point.

you're soooo clever and original ::)

Ain't talkin bout love - I agree was pretty good.  Scott must have been on some heay shit for that second song "runaround"

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Man, I'm a huge Slash fan, but the guy has ALWAYS been hit and miss when he plays live.

I thought for the most part Slash played well, but I wasn't expecting a note for note performance from the guy. Slash is a dirty blues styled player, not a spot-on-note-for-note Eddie Van Halen type.

VR's performance at the HOF:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gE-6rmAi7B0

http://mp.aol.com/video.index.adp?mxid=1866963&_AOLFORM=w708.h344.p7.R1



here is the intro and everything.

I thought their peformance Kicked FUcking Ass, I dont see why people are sayin otherwise?

Slash kicked arss.

I thought it was funny.

Watching Weiland contort himself around like McJagger on crack, combined with his incoherant bumbling and stumbling shot at Axl, reminds me how kick ass Axl is as a frontman.  If Axl had stayed in seclusion, I probably wouldn't have noticed the boobery as much.

Slash and Duff still kickass.

Doesn't work anymore!

this one does:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c4C6Maik5f8

We can't see this shit when we're outside the US :rant: It drives me nuts.

Estebanf,

Do you know what's a thumbnail ?

VR at HOF:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c4C6Maik5f8

Thanks for the youtube link!

I've gotta say, it wasn't a terrible performance. Wasn't gettin the whole Scott vibe though  :yes:

The more I watch it, the better it gets.  They did awesome.

Slash's solos were fantastic. More hesitant about Scott though, but overall not a bad performance.

i have to say from watching it, scott was a joke, his moves were exstatically insane, i think he needs to stop having arm spazzes so much haha

Scott stage moves are so gay he sucks...

Duff and Slash looked cool as fuck like always. : ok:

If you look hard enough at any live performance you'll find tons of stuff that didn't go perfect, I don't understand what was so horrific about their performance. Personally I thought it kicked major ass and I really don't see any reason to complain.

Photo that is up on the home page of Rollingstone.com of backstage.

http://www.rollingstone.com/photos/gallery/13826106/the_week_in_rock/photo/15/large/

I'm totally with you! I thought scott and the whole bands performance rocked!  I'm getting exceited to hear Liberated!!!!

I'm sorry Contraband was an awesome album, and I'm sure the next album will be decent enough to sell a few copies, but Scott is just a Joke..
Like he's just so into himself it's sick  :rofl:
I really didn't like how they butchered ATAL

I've never heard the original of atal..and I thought it was pretty cool :)

after seeing it, dave, duff and matt did kicked ass, slash fucked up on the intro but the rest was good, scott was scott....

duff looks skinnier then ever :-\

Do yourself a favor and listen to the original, you might have a different take.? I can't believe so many people are sticking up for the bands performance.? It was NOT good.?I was a little more forgiving, I thought it was just great to see them back in the limelight after so many years.? But I could certainly see how people could view the performance in a negative light.? Weiland was completely uninspiring, I can sort of forgive Slash for messing up the intro.? As good as he is, he's not in the same class as Eddie Van Halen.? He sounded fine for the rest of the song.? "Runaround" was terrible.

listening to the original now...I understand now :o :(

yeah Scott defo wasnt on form and slash made some mistakes but thats the way it goes..life goes on

roll on libertad

Old news, but I finally got around to watching the performance and all I can say is "wow."? I bet Dave, Eddie, and Alex were all glad they didn't show.? Weiland was garbage up there.? I'm not even a VR fan, and even I felt embarrassed for them.

And Weiland taking jabs at Axl after the show was very deliberate, IMO.? The guy has no class.

So why did you feel the sudden urge to post in this thread?...

You know all your post is gonna do is start endless arguments...

You're right.  What was I thinking?

 ???

Me too,

 IMO it was a great performance they rocked like motherfuckers!!!!
 :beer: