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Title: FALSE: september 17rh new release date
Post by: angie62 on February 27, 2007, 04:35:36 PM
Edit:

There is no release date at this point. This date is false.

Do not listen to online retailers who are only guessing the date and want you to pre-order the album from them.

/jarmo





according to the hits music channel new release date sep 17th 2007


Title: Re: september 17rh new release date
Post by: Ganja4Life on February 27, 2007, 04:37:49 PM
according to the hits music channel new release date sep 17th 2007
and you believe it? :hihi:


Title: Re: september 17rh new release date
Post by: cotis on February 27, 2007, 04:39:01 PM
that's my birthday!

would be sweet if it came out that day, however it'll be coming sooner than that.

don't believe everything ya read man! : ok:


Title: Re: september 17rh new release date
Post by: Bona on February 27, 2007, 04:39:27 PM
Mail them and say that HMV is not as reliable source for the release date of CD....


Title: Re: september 17rh new release date
Post by: angie62 on February 27, 2007, 04:42:22 PM
just makes you wonder if they just make it up as they go along!!!!  And yes I do believe it will be out way before then


Title: Re: september 17rh new release date
Post by: Danny on February 27, 2007, 04:43:52 PM
There's a long time between now and September 17th where something could go wrong.


Title: Re: september 17rh new release date
Post by: JDA on February 27, 2007, 04:45:03 PM
If Sept. 17th is the new release date I think we should all quit being fans of the band.  Next Fall?  Give me a break.  What a joke.  I really hope this is not reliable.


Title: Re: september 17rh new release date
Post by: floppyfish27 on February 27, 2007, 04:45:15 PM
Isn't there a tread about this already? ? ?

 ???


Title: Re: september 17rh new release date
Post by: Lesty on February 27, 2007, 04:45:20 PM
This is ridiculous.
Even if does turn out to be true, they are not going to annouce a firm release date 6 months ahead of time.
When has that ever happened?

Despite the touring they did last year and before in 1991 before UYI came out, I have a hard time believing they'll be touring the world extensively through the Spring and Summer without something to support.

A late Spring/Early summer release seems logical to me.




Title: Re: september 17rh new release date
Post by: Saul on February 27, 2007, 04:46:31 PM
Yes!! We FINALLY have a release date!!!  : ok:

 :hihi:  and  :rofl:


Title: Re: september 17rh new release date
Post by: EFISH on February 27, 2007, 04:46:35 PM
There is no release date planned now! It's gonna be out probably at the beginning of the tour, so towards the last half of April, or at the very latest the first week of May.  :peace:


Title: Re: september 17rh new release date
Post by: Jonx on February 27, 2007, 04:51:48 PM
There is no release date planned now! It's gonna be out probably at the beginning of the tour, so towards the last half of April, or at the very latest the first week of May.  :peace:

Summer is more likely, after this current tour. The main music markets are American and European, they need to be in those regions when its released for interviews, promo and maybe even some of the summer festivals.... they still have loads to do! They cant move on with the release until its physically completed in every way!

Jonx


Title: Re: september 17rh new release date
Post by: Neemo on February 27, 2007, 04:52:56 PM
another HMV rumor......mmmmmm :puke:


Title: Re: september 17rh new release date
Post by: Tommie on February 27, 2007, 04:53:21 PM
Okay. A. this isnt a reliable release date source, and B. ?If this is true, Imma walk my ass to LA and have a talk with the band.


Title: Re: september 17rh new release date
Post by: EFISH on February 27, 2007, 04:55:48 PM
There is no release date planned now! It's gonna be out probably at the beginning of the tour, so towards the last half of April, or at the very latest the first week of May.  :peace:

Summer is more likely, after this current tour. The main music markets are American and European, they need to be in those regions when its released for interviews, promo and maybe even some of the summer festivals.... they still have loads to do! They cant move on with the release until its physically completed in every way!

Jonx
Once everything is ready to go, they are going to get it out as soon as possible. I think the tracks themselves will be probably 100% completed in about 2 weeks. So, then I think the album will be out a month after that, give or take a week or so. That's how I came up with my thang. It'd be cool if they could do one of those MTV Unplugged things before the tour and air it the week Chinese Democracy comes out, also with an exclusive interview. Then when they come back, they can do some other "special" interviews, and shows, etc...


Title: Re: september 17rh new release date
Post by: gokken on February 27, 2007, 05:00:56 PM
Jarmo or Mods: Would it not be great to have info in the "Read me before you post" thing with the lines

- We dont want to hear about HMV release dates
- We know adler is dreaming about a gnr reunion
- We dont want to hear about your friend who is working in a record store and heard....


and things like this..just a idea.


Title: Re: september 17rh new release date
Post by: Jonx on February 27, 2007, 05:03:26 PM
There is no release date planned now! It's gonna be out probably at the beginning of the tour, so towards the last half of April, or at the very latest the first week of May.  :peace:

Summer is more likely, after this current tour. The main music markets are American and European, they need to be in those regions when its released for interviews, promo and maybe even some of the summer festivals.... they still have loads to do! They cant move on with the release until its physically completed in every way!

Jonx
Once everything is ready to go, they are going to get it out as soon as possible. I think the tracks themselves will be probably 100% completed in about 2 weeks. So, then I think the album will be out a month after that, give or take a week or so. That's how I came up with my thang. It'd be cool if they could do one of those MTV Unplugged things before the tour and air it the week Chinese Democracy comes out, also with an exclusive interview. Then when they come back, they can do some other "special" interviews, and shows, etc...

Hmmm i see where your coming from but i think thats optimistic. We dont know if a video has been completed, that needs to be done, they also need some time to rehearse so that they can actually play the new material. Based on other tours and the amount of time the band have used in the past to rehearse old material i cant see the timeframe fitting. Half the people in the band probably havnt even played on let alone learnt the new material, its going to take some time to get it tight, and they are going to want it tight as the expectations are going to be so high. Theres also the fact that these African/Asian audiences arent going to want to hear new material, they are going to want the set we all got the last time round. More than likely they will play these shows, come back, rehearse the new set, release the album, do the promo + mini tour in America and Europe, then back to the states for a full blown one starting in San Diego!

Jonx


Title: Re: RUMOR: september 17rh new release date
Post by: Mr.Intensity on February 27, 2007, 05:04:20 PM
Sep 17th, that seems too soon, mixing/mastering will take at least a year.


Title: Re: RUMOR: september 17rh new release date
Post by: angie62 on February 27, 2007, 05:05:17 PM
All in the name of entertainment my friend!!!! Just passing on what I saw dont shoot me xxxxxx :-X


Title: Re: RUMOR: september 17rh new release date
Post by: CheapJon on February 27, 2007, 05:05:44 PM
that's not soon and BBF said that soon was the word :yes:


Title: Re: RUMOR: september 17rh new release date
Post by: Jonx on February 27, 2007, 05:08:15 PM
that's not soon and BBF said that soon was the word :yes:

Axl said soon in 2002............ that word should be banned here

Jonx


Title: Re: RUMOR: september 17rh new release date
Post by: FunkyMonkey on February 27, 2007, 05:10:01 PM
It looks like HMV put it on their site...Blabbermouth.net picked it up and now so have others.

http://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=67816

HMV has been wrong I don't know how many times...I think this is the same. :no:



Title: Re: september 17rh new release date
Post by: SterileEyes on February 27, 2007, 05:10:18 PM
There is no release date planned now! It's gonna be out probably at the beginning of the tour, so towards the last half of April, or at the very latest the first week of May.  :peace:

Summer is more likely, after this current tour. The main music markets are American and European, they need to be in those regions when its released for interviews, promo and maybe even some of the summer festivals.... they still have loads to do! They cant move on with the release until its physically completed in every way!

Jonx
Once everything is ready to go, they are going to get it out as soon as possible. I think the tracks themselves will be probably 100% completed in about 2 weeks. So, then I think the album will be out a month after that, give or take a week or so. That's how I came up with my thang. It'd be cool if they could do one of those MTV Unplugged things before the tour and air it the week Chinese Democracy comes out, also with an exclusive interview. Then when they come back, they can do some other "special" interviews, and shows, etc...

Man, oh man Efish.

With all due respect, and you deserve plenty, you are VERY optimistic for a Guns N' Roses fan!

Also

Axl never said "soon" in 2002. In fact, he said these exact words after the VMA performance: "You'll see it. I don't know if soon is the word, but you'll see it eventually."

And another also...

Any mention of "HMV" should be filtered and automatically deleted on these forums.


Title: Re: RUMOR: september 17rh new release date
Post by: CheapJon on February 27, 2007, 05:12:48 PM
that's not soon and BBF said that soon was the word :yes:

Axl said soon in 2002............ that word should be banned here

Jonx

axl said "it'll be out, don't know if soon is the word though"? : ok:

and dude if you haven't noticed, times are way different now :yes:


Title: Re: RUMOR: september 17rh new release date
Post by: GNRreunioneventually on February 27, 2007, 05:14:11 PM
It looks like HMV put it on their site...Blabbermouth.net picked it up and now so have others.

http://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=67816

HMV has been wrong I don't know how many times...I think this is the same. :no:



ahhh ya beet me to it. : ok:

i doubt that highly, for one the album is done and in the mixing stage and should be done with that in 2 or 3 weeks give or take a day, and then they have to turn it into the record company witch takes 8 weeks so i'm thinkin we'll have CHINESE DEMOCRACY in 11 weeks or sometime in May or june :yes:

God i hope so ?:confused:


Title: Re: RUMOR: september 17rh new release date
Post by: Jonx on February 27, 2007, 05:17:27 PM
that's not soon and BBF said that soon was the word :yes:

Axl said soon in 2002............ that word should be banned here

Jonx

axl said "it'll be out, don't know if soon is the word though"  : ok:

and dude if you haven't noticed, times are way different now :yes:

I'll believe it when i have it in my hands. Things are different, but not very different, once a video has been shot and completed, artwork out there for us all to see then ill believe things are different. Axl had CD ready in 2000 but it never appeared. He now has all the recording done, but if the mixing doesnt come out right it could be a very long process, and if he suddenly has some wave of inspiration then "soon" wont be the word all over again!


Title: Re: RUMOR: september 17rh new release date
Post by: ChrisPittman on February 27, 2007, 05:18:23 PM
this information seems to be passing hands at an alarming rate. my mate, who hates GNR, sent me a text this morning informing me of the release date which he says he got from a local morning paper they distribute free here on the bus. he heard some people talking about it in college, saying that it was coming out in september, around the same time as the illusion albums did in 91...so perhaps....


Title: Re: RUMOR: september 17rh new release date
Post by: welshrose on February 27, 2007, 05:27:22 PM
Remember folks, Axl said it takes 8weeks to get ready promote and finalize the record once it is done.

Which means that after it is mixed (which could take another month) it has to be mastered, then it is turned over to the record company.

The very earliest would be roughly 3-4months from now.

June: earliest
July: more likely
August: even more likely


Title: Re: RUMOR: september 17rh new release date
Post by: polluxlm on February 27, 2007, 05:32:20 PM
June: earliest
July: more likely
August: even more likely

I'd rather word it as possible. There's nothing likely about CD.


Title: Re: RUMOR: september 17rh new release date
Post by: TurboTravis on February 27, 2007, 05:39:18 PM
Unfortunetly, we all need to accept the fact that there is a chance that this album will never be released.

T


Title: Re: RUMOR: september 17rh new release date
Post by: whiny on February 27, 2007, 05:40:51 PM
Remember folks, Axl said it takes 8weeks to get ready promote and finalize the record once it is done.

Which means that after it is mixed (which could take another month) it has to be mastered, then it is turned over to the record company.

The very earliest would be roughly 3-4months from now.

June: earliest
July: more likely
August: even more likely

why do people still believe that it might come out in july august; these months are dead months as far as releasing albums goes. if it's not out till june, we'll have fall / late fall again. that's the story. besides, gnr somehow love to release albums in fall, as far as i remember.


Title: Re: RUMOR: september 17rh new release date
Post by: gokken on February 27, 2007, 05:41:49 PM

Axl had CD ready in 2000 but it never appeared.


When did he say that? I?ve just seen a quote that were something like this "99% of music is done and 80% of vocals".

Where did he say it was done in 2002?


Title: Re: september 17rh new release date
Post by: EFISH on February 27, 2007, 05:43:36 PM
There is no release date planned now! It's gonna be out probably at the beginning of the tour, so towards the last half of April, or at the very latest the first week of May.  :peace:

Summer is more likely, after this current tour. The main music markets are American and European, they need to be in those regions when its released for interviews, promo and maybe even some of the summer festivals.... they still have loads to do! They cant move on with the release until its physically completed in every way!

Jonx
Once everything is ready to go, they are going to get it out as soon as possible. I think the tracks themselves will be probably 100% completed in about 2 weeks. So, then I think the album will be out a month after that, give or take a week or so. That's how I came up with my thang. It'd be cool if they could do one of those MTV Unplugged things before the tour and air it the week Chinese Democracy comes out, also with an exclusive interview. Then when they come back, they can do some other "special" interviews, and shows, etc...

Hmmm i see where your coming from but i think thats optimistic. We dont know if a video has been completed, that needs to be done, they also need some time to rehearse so that they can actually play the new material. Based on other tours and the amount of time the band have used in the past to rehearse old material i cant see the timeframe fitting. Half the people in the band probably havnt even played on let alone learnt the new material, its going to take some time to get it tight, and they are going to want it tight as the expectations are going to be so high. Theres also the fact that these African/Asian audiences arent going to want to hear new material, they are going to want the set we all got the last time round. More than likely they will play these shows, come back, rehearse the new set, release the album, do the promo + mini tour in America and Europe, then back to the states for a full blown one starting in San Diego!

Jonx
Well for these shows in South Africa/Japan they can play pretty much the same setlist as North America 2006 tour and it will be fine, since they havent played these places yet. They can slowly learn some new songs and maybe bust out 1 or 2 in South America, and by the time they are back in the States, they will have had some break time between tours to learn more of the new songs, and hopefully that time around they will play atleast half of CD, if not more. Oh well, we'll see. I still think the album will be out in late April or early May. It'll happen....


Title: Re: RUMOR: september 17rh new release date
Post by: whiny on February 27, 2007, 05:46:55 PM
between april-june or september-(early)december; if not: next year or...


Title: Re: RUMOR: september 17rh new release date
Post by: Jonx on February 27, 2007, 05:50:11 PM

Axl had CD ready in 2000 but it never appeared.


When did he say that? I?ve just seen a quote that were something like this "99% of music is done and 80% of vocals".

Where did he say it was done in 2002?

Moby was briefly producer on the album in 99/00. He told Axl he had an albums worth of good material and should just release it. Axl fired him!

Jonx


Title: Re: FALSE: september 17rh new release date
Post by: jarmo on February 27, 2007, 05:50:54 PM
This is not true.

There is no release date and we all know it.


As soon as there's news on the album, you will know about it.




/jarmo


Title: Re: FALSE: september 17rh new release date
Post by: CheapJon on February 27, 2007, 05:51:25 PM
woah it was false, i fell for it... no but seriously i wonder what april fools joke we will fall for this year


Title: Re: FALSE: september 17rh new release date
Post by: whiny on February 27, 2007, 06:03:28 PM
This is not true.

There is no release date and we all know it.


As soon as there's news on the album, you will know about it.




/jarmo

true. but gnr fans somewhat need those kind of rumours like fish need water. we'd rather be disussion vague dates, hoping that there's some truth to it (although in this case i hope there's none to it), than having to stick to the even more vague status "soon". a studio project, that has been virtual, a myth and a mystery for such a long time, if turned into something tangible, always brings our hopes (and fears) up. although we should know better by now...


Title: Re: FALSE: september 17rh new release date
Post by: mega_music on February 27, 2007, 06:29:50 PM
AWESOME! Another release date!!! Im so excited I can now go on with my life again. Seriously though even if it doesnt come out this year or next be happy that its getting mixed and will one day be out. Just go on and live your lives until "The Man" gives us a official date. Then we all can go ape shit!


Title: Re: RUMOR: september 17rh new release date
Post by: gokken on February 27, 2007, 06:52:49 PM

Axl had CD ready in 2000 but it never appeared.


When did he say that? I?ve just seen a quote that were something like this "99% of music is done and 80% of vocals".

Where did he say it was done in 2002?

Moby was briefly producer on the album in 99/00. He told Axl he had an albums worth of good material and should just release it. Axl fired him!

Jonx

Ok so Moby said the album were ready?!! Come on!! I think Slash said it was going to be out last march. And I also think that we should not listen to other artists, I love Slash and I like Moby too but I dont listen to them regarding releasedate of Chinese Democracy.

Edit: And what I heard it was in 97 he helped GNR but I didnt know he was producing.

Edit2: Just remembered, I think Moby is recording his albums in his bedroom, and HE thougt the material was ready for release?? I think Axl and Moby got different standards regarding quality of the albums so I dont think you can take his words for CD to be ready.


Title: Re: FALSE: september 17rh new release date
Post by: HBK on February 27, 2007, 06:59:19 PM

I believe In Web Official ________________ > http://www.gunsnroses.com

hbk *


Title: Re: FALSE: september 17rh new release date
Post by: gokken on February 27, 2007, 07:00:43 PM

I believe In Web Official ________________ > http://www.gunsnroses.com

hbk *

Yeah! : ok:


Title: Re: FALSE: september 17rh new release date
Post by: shadyklyde on February 27, 2007, 07:07:27 PM
There are 44 tuesdays left in '07. Chinese Democracy will come out on one of them.


Title: Re: FALSE: september 17rh new release date
Post by: gokken on February 27, 2007, 07:35:24 PM
There are 44 tuesdays left in '07. Chinese Democracy will come out on one of them.

Hahaha! :)


Title: Re: FALSE: september 17rh new release date
Post by: bringbackadler on February 27, 2007, 07:41:41 PM
There are 44 tuesdays left in '07. Chinese Democracy will come out on one of them.

Hahaha! :)

You guys are laughing, but this same situation again would not surprise me.    :-X


/bringbackadler


Title: Re: FALSE: september 17rh new release date
Post by: Danny on February 27, 2007, 07:51:53 PM
Technically, we won't know that this is "false" untill September 17th, right?  Technically, it's a rumor.


Whatever.  Anyone else wanna make a pact to stay away from all GNR boards for a couple of months?  It's just getting depressing.


Title: Re: FALSE: september 17rh new release date
Post by: GNRreunioneventually on February 27, 2007, 07:56:43 PM
This is not true.

There is no release date and we all know it.


As soon as there's news on the album, you will know about it.




/jarmo

once again the wise Jarmo shows us the light we always knew in the back of our heads : ok:

There are 44 tuesdays left in '07. Chinese Democracy will come out on one of them.

Ohh God not this shit again ::)


Title: Re: FALSE: september 17rh new release date
Post by: FunkyMonkey on February 27, 2007, 08:00:44 PM
It is amazing how fast this stuff spreads.  My friend just heard the "release" date on the radio on his way home. :no:



Title: Re: FALSE: september 17rh new release date
Post by: jarmo on February 27, 2007, 08:20:05 PM
Technically, we won't know that this is "false" untill September 17th, right?  Technically, it's a rumor.


Whatever.  Anyone else wanna make a pact to stay away from all GNR boards for a couple of months?  It's just getting depressing.


It's not a rumor since there's no source for it.

The store that says so, made it up themselves because there's no September 17th release date.

It's bullshit.


/jarmo


Title: Re: FALSE: september 17rh new release date
Post by: Jackamo! on February 27, 2007, 08:25:51 PM
Axl's writers need to write another letter for him, and give another tentative date. : ok:


Title: Re: FALSE: september 17rh new release date
Post by: bringbackadler on February 27, 2007, 08:28:12 PM
I don't know... I'm starting to think that there might be something to this particular release date. ? ?:yes:



/bringbackadler


Title: Re: FALSE: september 17rh new release date
Post by: grog mug on February 27, 2007, 08:44:35 PM
The store just figures how long it will take to mix the record then gives a false release date WITHOUT any info.  I knew it was false...and they will continue to be false until we get a press release...obviously.


Title: Re: FALSE: september 17rh new release date
Post by: AxlRose4eva1 on February 27, 2007, 09:18:09 PM
HMV is wrong all the time, but have they ever picked a date that was too late?


Title: Re: FALSE: september 17rh new release date
Post by: Krispy Kreme on February 27, 2007, 10:05:43 PM
Here we ago  again:
March, May, June, Sept. Nov. Dec., oh it's next year already.

RIP 2000-2006
2007, are you next?


Title: Re: FALSE: september 17rh new release date
Post by: TrixAreForKids on February 27, 2007, 10:13:45 PM
Here we ago? again:
March, May, June, Sept. Nov. Dec., oh it's next year already.

RIP 2000-2006
2007, are you next?

I'm putting my money on late 2007 or early 2008, and I think it will be a double album.  :hihi:


Title: Re: FALSE: september 17rh new release date
Post by: Loaded NightraiN on February 27, 2007, 10:28:49 PM
Whatever.? Anyone else wanna make a pact to stay away from all GNR boards for a couple of months?? It's just getting depressing.

Nope  :no:

Knowin my luck i'll miss the announcement and tour dates!!


Title: Re: FALSE: september 17rh new release date
Post by: Danny on February 27, 2007, 10:33:34 PM
I wonder how many GNR fans have died waiting for this album to be released.


Title: Re: FALSE: september 17rh new release date
Post by: Loaded NightraiN on February 27, 2007, 10:34:58 PM
I wonder how many GNR fans have died waiting for this album to be released.

Ya know, honestly I have often wondered this  :-\

Just hoping I get to see the thing released before something bad happens  :hihi:


Title: Re: FALSE: september 17rh new release date
Post by: novrain91 on February 28, 2007, 01:08:02 AM
I don't think this September date is true, but I'm seriously going to be dissapointed and pissed if this album doesn't come out at the beginning of the tour.  It doesn't particularly matter what I think, but what the Fuck.  You can't have 3 Chinese Democracy tours spread out over 5 years without an album and expect to be taken seriously. IMO


Title: Re: FALSE: september 17rh new release date
Post by: oneway23 on February 28, 2007, 01:34:21 AM
I don't think this September date is true, but I'm seriously going to be dissapointed and pissed if this album doesn't come out at the beginning of the tour.  It doesn't particularly matter what I think, but what the Fuck.  You can't have 3 Chinese Democracy tours spread out over 5 years without an album and expect to be taken seriously. IMO

There seem to be those among us who echo this sentiment prior to every tour, and yet the tours keep on comin' and people keep on attending...Please remember that all known dates are taking place in parts of the world that have not yet heard the show we've been listening to for a few years now.  The final frontier, the last horizon.  They had better hurry up or they'll be playing Antarctica in '08.


Title: Re: FALSE: september 17rh new release date
Post by: gandra on February 28, 2007, 04:54:03 AM
yeah right,they know realising date

I'm tired of fuckers who knoing nothing


Title: Re: FALSE: september 17rh new release date
Post by: whiny on February 28, 2007, 05:03:56 AM
I don't think this September date is true, but I'm seriously going to be dissapointed and pissed if this album doesn't come out at the beginning of the tour.? It doesn't particularly matter what I think, but what the Fuck.? You can't have 3 Chinese Democracy tours spread out over 5 years without an album and expect to be taken seriously. IMO

"once there was this rnr band, rollin' on the streets,
time went by and it became a joke"

for the public, this seems to be what has become of gnr.

2006 was a chance not taken, to prove them wrong. march 6th another. now what. pretty hard for non die hard gnr fans to understand our obsession. if cd won't come out during the next months it's getting more and more ridiculous.


Title: Re: RUMOR: september 17rh new release date
Post by: crofty on February 28, 2007, 09:55:28 AM
that's not soon and BBF said that soon was the word :yes:

Axl said soon in 2002............ that word should be banned here

Jonx

WHEN????????

I remember watching the VH1/MTV show in 2002 or whatever, In fact i re-watched it recently. on the brief interview after the show by the curtain, he was asked, will we hear Chinese Democracy soon, and Axl replied

"Oh you'll hear it, I don't know if soon is the word, but you'll hear it"

I'm not saying that he never said soon in '02. But that's a case where he explicitly said it wouldn't be soon.


Title: Re: RUMOR: september 17rh new release date
Post by: Jonx on February 28, 2007, 10:03:31 AM
that's not soon and BBF said that soon was the word :yes:

Axl said soon in 2002............ that word should be banned here

Jonx

WHEN????????

I remember watching the VH1/MTV show in 2002 or whatever, In fact i re-watched it recently. on the brief interview after the show by the curtain, he was asked, will we hear Chinese Democracy soon, and Axl replied

"Oh you'll hear it, I don't know if soon is the word, but you'll hear it"

I'm not saying that he never said soon in '02. But that's a case where he explicitly said it wouldn't be soon.

Then im wrong, my mistake, i got the context wrong!

Jonx