Here Today... Gone To Hell!

I absolutly love Madagascar, The Blues and Chinesed Democracy but these songs are 5,6,7 yrs old to me.  I love them and will always play them with my IPOD but I almost don't want them on CD.  These songs seem like they were released on another album a while ago but sadly they weren't.  Has too many people heard these songs?  Will everyone still want to hear them on CD.  Just asking.

I definitely want to hear them on CD. I want definitive studio copies of these songs. That's a big part of the excitement for me, i'm not just waiting for an album, i'm waiting for an album that i'm certain i'll love.

I don't care if we hear all of the songs we've already heard, but i think if the album turned out to be lacking most of them i'd be kinda disappointed.

It seems that the decision is not really up to us. We get what we  get.

I don't care either way... the songs are great, but if they've got better ones in the bag, then leave them off.

Out of the three you mentioned, The Blues is the only one I really really want on the record.

Chinese Democracy I can do without. I was never a huge fan of that song and it never grew on me. I can't understood why Mr. Perfectionist is so gung-ho on this track. It's just my opinion, but if I was a casual Guns fan and after 13 years of waiting I put on the record and decided to judge the record by its title track, I'd be really bummed.

Madagascar's a good song but I wouldn't be upset if they didn't include it. Is it true it was written way back in '93? (Wouldn't surprise me at all).

So long as Better, The Blues and IRS show up, I'll be happy. TWAT wouldn't hurt, either.

I just want to hear Chinese Democracy... GNR people will choose the best possible tracklist, don't worry about that. And if some new song is not in the tracklist, we're gonna hear it in a second album or something.

we have only heard these songs live....... Imagine if we had only heard the live version of.... lets say ''Better''.... Wouldnt You be amazed at the difference when you hear the studio version....??? I Know I would.... Same goes for''TWAT'' and pretty all the new songs....

15 years? YES!  :beer:

I would prefer NONE of the leaked/live songs show up on this album. I love most of them, but you're right. I've burnt them out for the most part. Even a studio-version would not change that feeling all that much. ?Release this album, then hit us with another one later on that contain studio versions of these ?songs and I'd be one happy guy.

i guess we have no choice, but i don't bother.

The only bad thing about Chinese Democracy, is that, when released, we're gonna know the half of the songs... we will get a half of a new album  :hihi:

 :peace:

You know, everyone's different - even GNR fans.  I *love* CD, and absolutely want to see it not only open the album, but replace WTTJ as the band's live opener, truly as a mark that the new era of GNR is fully realized.

IMHO, "Better" and "TWAT" are pretty much studio cuts, rather than rough demos.  I wouldnt be suprised if there wasnt much of a difference, aside from sounding "cleaner" and "crisper."

I would rather have the 2001-02 version of CD than whatever has been done to it since then, so the answer to this question is a definite yes.

I think they should use the leaks as b-sides or something or put em on an E.P mini album for a laugh. I don't think people are going to want most of these leaks, my opinion is that those leaked and played live were to keep the forums chatting.
I wouldn't be surprised if none of em are on the final release although Chinese Democracy!!! being the title of the album is a bit of a giveaway. Unless the album wasn't named Chinese Democracy after all but that would lose the publicity they've already gained on it.

You know these people read this forum... Its threads like this that are probably the problem releasing the album... No one is ever satisfied...

Give them Blood. Blood. Gallons of the Stuff. Give them all that they want and it will never be enough...

You have to remember that the majority of people haven't heard these songs yet, either demos or live versions. They're not going to release songs that only the hardcore GNR fans will want to hear (ie. songs we haven't heard yet). They'll release songs that will help CD to sell. Better and Madagascar are probably the best examples of that.

But you have to realize that some songs that were on the "Illusions" have been played live earlier too. Take Knockin' On Heaven's Door or Don't Cry or Back Off Bitch or Yesterdays. November Rain is a very old song too.
In addition to that some fans have heard a bunch of the songs of the Illsuions albums from the Rock In Rio boots very early in 1991 too.

Ok, Madagascar and the other song that may be on CD are older songs, but only as far as the first performance is concerned, the songs still sound very fresh to me.

So we should stop bitching around what WE want. It is their album and everyone of us will be happy when it hits the stores. Maybe we know 6 out of 13 tracks. And? I don't know the studio versions. So they will be new to me.

Threads like this one doesn't take us anywhere.

You guys are right I'm just sick of the wait. 1987 I first heard of them. Thats why I'm anxious.

The first step take out the cd, because with this we will get a 2nd o 3rd album, so it is not very important at this point if this songs must be on it or not.

As far as GNR topics go, there isn't a thread at any GNR forum that will "take us anywhere".

Everything has been recycled. We've gone full circle a trillion times. Click on any thread, and I bet you my life that its been discussed at least a million times.

Until CD is released, we all have our heads up the ass of a dead horse. The first album is a fucking myth, and you're already talking about a 2nd or 3rd myth?

Take things one myth at a time. :hihi:

You are probably right.

But there are threads that are interesting and threads that are nonsense. :yes:

a lot of the illusions songs were written and performed in 86'............which was 5 years previous...... : ok:
i dont think it matters.............do you?

nope :)