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Title: 06.28.87 [Apple Lossless]
Post by: Mr. Redman on February 16, 2007, 10:52:32 PM
Source: Alan Niven CD -> FLAC -> -> WAV [xAct] -> Audio Hijack Pro [Track Splits] -> Apple Lossless Stereo -> You

Thanks to IMSORRY for the raw flac file.

Source; Alan Niven CD -> FLAC -> WAV -> Audio Hijack Pro -> Apple Lossless Stereo -> You

1: http://www.mediafire.com/?9imffxtvo5q
2: http://www.mediafire.com/?etao4qmr3nw
3: http://www.mediafire.com/?6zoie4dyzgl
4: http://www.mediafire.com/?egmhmyq22mz
5: http://www.mediafire.com/?1yw1omnmxrg
6: http://www.mediafire.com/?agnnylezglm
7. http://www.mediafire.com/?3mnzm1uymwn
8. http://www.mediafire.com/?9ytmezbyyzm
9. http://www.mediafire.com/?9vdwzyjweyy
10. http://www.mediafire.com/?czqo0jmzdnn
11. http://www.mediafire.com/?5am4uzkzmit
12. http://www.mediafire.com/?8yfydzndzmy


Feel free to post these whereever, just give thanks to 'Almost Famous' please. :)


Title: Re: 06.28.87 [Apple Lossless]
Post by: estebanf on February 16, 2007, 11:01:15 PM
 : ok: : ok: : ok: : ok: : ok:


Title: Re: 06.28.87 [Apple Lossless]
Post by: Mr. Redman on February 16, 2007, 11:03:57 PM
Oh, by the way, you've got to add '.m4a' at the end.


Title: Re: 06.28.87 [Apple Lossless]
Post by: timebomb on February 16, 2007, 11:12:54 PM
thx alot dude


Title: Re: 06.28.87 [Apple Lossless]
Post by: estebanf on February 16, 2007, 11:19:58 PM
Once you converted succesfully the tracks to M4A, by adding that extension at the end, you will be able to decode the files into WAV (or encode it to any other format, if you install the proper plugin) using dBPowerAmp.

Remember that if you DO NOT add the M4A extension, dbPowerAmp wont recognize the files.

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3) Monkeys Audio [.ape] (http://www.dbpoweramp.com/codecs-new/dBpoweramp-Codec-MonkeysAudio.exe)
4) Wavpack (Unique lossless and lossy hybrid mode    [.wv  .wvc]) (http://www.dbpoweramp.com/codecs-new/dBpoweramp-Codec-WavPack.exe)
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Title: Re: 06.28.87 [Apple Lossless]
Post by: Scree on February 16, 2007, 11:23:35 PM
Thanks for the upload of this   :beer:


Title: Re: 06.28.87 [Apple Lossless]
Post by: Scree on February 17, 2007, 02:38:54 AM
As an addendum(sp?): This is a show recorded on FILM professionally that was supposedly for release later officially.. never released. Sad thing is, some ponce is sitting on this footage in his high and mighty record company tower and we'll never see the fucking thing. Sad really.


Title: Re: 06.28.87 [Apple Lossless]
Post by: Alan on February 17, 2007, 10:19:46 AM
thanks for uploading this :D


Title: Re: 06.28.87 [Apple Lossless]
Post by: asgaroth on February 25, 2007, 03:55:37 AM
We are sure that it is the 28-06-1987? Tracklist compared with gnrontour.com don't match! What version is it?


Title: Re: 06.28.87 [Apple Lossless]
Post by: MJ23 on February 25, 2007, 04:47:29 AM
We are sure that it is the 28-06-1987? Tracklist compared with gnrontour.com don't match! What version is it?

The tracklist there is still the "old" one before this tape surfaced.


Title: Re: 06.28.87 [Apple Lossless]
Post by: Ericnor on February 25, 2007, 04:48:04 AM
What songs are these?

I thought there were only 5 songs from this show.... if it is june 28th 1987.

-Eirik


Title: Re: 06.28.87 [Apple Lossless]
Post by: domi on February 25, 2007, 08:57:47 AM
thanks alot!


Title: Re: 06.28.87 [Apple Lossless]
Post by: Ericnor on February 25, 2007, 12:41:50 PM
Setlist:

1. Jungle
2. OTGM
3. Rocket Queen
4. Nightrain
5. My Michelle
6. It's So Easy
7. Mr. Brownstone
8. Dont Cry
9. You're Crazy
10. Paradise City
11. Knockin
12. Move To The City & Mama Kin

What happened to Shadow of your love and Whole Lotta Rosie, does anyone know? Are they not really from the 28th then?
And if they are, does anyone know where they "fit in" in the setlist....?

-Eirik


Title: Re: 06.28.87 [Apple Lossless]
Post by: Mr. Redman on February 25, 2007, 07:59:48 PM
^They aren't. They're lies sessions with overdubs.


Title: Re: 06.28.87 [Apple Lossless]
Post by: BurningHills on February 25, 2007, 08:26:35 PM
^They aren't. They're lies sessions with overdubs.

Yeah - Shadow Of Your Love is pretty much a Live Like A Suicide outtake

I thought that Whole Lotta Rosie was live though. I never knew that one was an overdub as well.

Thanks for the upload!  : ok:


Title: Re: 06.28.87 [Apple Lossless]
Post by: Ericnor on February 26, 2007, 02:16:49 AM
^They aren't. They're lies sessions with overdubs.

Ok, thanks, so the info about the date on JM's site is wrong then?

06.28.87 - The Marquee, London, England
opening act: Little Angels
set: It's So Easy, Shadow Of Your Love, Move To The City, Knockin' On Heaven's Door, Whole Lotta Rosie
audio/video recording?: audio [incomplete]
notes: This setlist is incomplete. These 5 songs were released on the Japanese EP "Live From The Jungle."


-Eirik


Title: Re: 06.28.87 [Apple Lossless]
Post by: Limulus on February 26, 2007, 12:43:39 PM
yes, regarding this show John M's site info is wrong there for now. i did have this SBD some longer, here is some good info:

-----------------------------------------------------------
Guns N' Roses

6/28/1987 Marquee, Londo, England

Source:
SBD -> Cassette -> ? -> Alan Niven CDR (inc.) -> .... -> Fans

Songs:
01 - Welcome To The Jungle
02 - Out Ta Get Me
03 - Rocket Queen
04 - Nightrain
05 - My Michelle
06 - It's So Easy
07 - Mr. Brownstone
08 - Don't Cry
09 - You're Crazy
- - - - - - - - - - - [cuts after the song (tape side1 ending?? guitar trouble to blame(?) cause after the song Axl says "give it just a minute with the guitars here...")]
10 - Paradise City
- - - - - - - - - - - [2x cuts after the song (technical difficulties at least still with guitars), definately here is(are) some song(s) missing]
 (Whole Lotta Rosie?)
 (Knockin' On Heaven's Door #1?)
 (Whole Lotta Rosie?)
11 - Knockin' On Heaven's Door #2
12 - Move To The City
13 - Mama Kin

Notes:
- the `black`songs 1-13 are on the SBD CDR
- "Knockin' On Heaven's Door #1" is not circulating in the general fan trading/leeching community
- "It's So Easy", "Knockin' On Heaven's Door #2", "Whole Lotta Rosie" from this show made it on the official japanese "Live From The Jungle" EP (and some Maxis):
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Live From The Jungle
Label: Geffen Records Japan 25XD-977

1. It's So Easy [Live] (3:57) [= Live 6/28/1987 The Marquee]**
2. Shadow Of Your Love [Live] (3:07) [= Studio Version with fake crowd noise]
3. Move To The City [Live] (3:46) [= Studio Version with fake crowd noise...this is on the "LIES EP" aswell]
4. Knockin' On Heaven's Door [Live] (4:41) [= Live 6/28/1987 The Marquee]
5. Whole Lotta Rosie [Live] (4:32) [= probably Live 6/28/1987 The Marquee]
6. Sweet Child O' Mine (5:56) [= Appetite For Destruction-Studio Version]

- the Live Marquee songs are better sounding than the pure SBD -> Cass -> ? -> CDR as they have been professional transfered/edited for this official release.
** "It's So Easy" (the "Here We Go, Here We Go..." fans' chants in the beginning have been edited in from a later part of the show. it actually happened after "Paradise City" before the encore)
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
- Before "You're crazy" Axl says "I'm gonna dedicate this song....to you people in these last 3 shows....in bloody old England". this and Axl saying "thank you, Marquee" in the end of "Paradise City" are proofs this show is from 6/28 as GN'R only did these 3 shows in THE MARQUEE which have been their 3 first European shows aswell:? 6/19/1987, 6/22/1987 and 6/28/1987.

- "Whole Lotta Rosie": It's not 100% clear where in the set this song has been played exactly as its missing on the SBD CDR. most likely it has to be in the encore right before or right after "Knockin' On Heaven's Door #1" which probably is the only song missing from this show. "Whole Lotta Rosie" is NOT played at the previous Marquee shows as the AUD recordings from them dont have it.

- "Knockin' On Heaven's Door #2":? it is the 2nd time they have performed it on the 6/28/1987 show, Slash says so right before it on the SBD CDR "...you guys weren't loud enough so we're doing Heaven's Door one more fucking time...." so this is the proof for KOHD being played twice at that show, the 1st version -however- is not on the SBD CDR.

- "Out Ta Get Me": some parts from this show have made it on the official "(Fake) Live Era"-version


Title: Re: 06.28.87 [Apple Lossless]
Post by: CheapJon on February 26, 2007, 12:46:11 PM
I can't go on not knowing this so i have to ask..


What does lossless mean?


Title: Re: 06.28.87 [Apple Lossless]
Post by: MJ23 on February 26, 2007, 12:54:03 PM
I can't go on not knowing this so i have to ask..


What does lossless mean?

If you have a recording like a bootleg on a Silver CD, let's take the "Silent Shots" boot, you will be able to rip the audio to your PC. If you rip it to mp3, you will be able to hear a difference to the original recording on the CD. That is because it has been compressed. A 3 minute song with a bitrate of 128kbps would have a size of approx. 4-5MB. If you want to have the quality of the recording to remain, you have to rip it to a format that has no quality loss, therefore lossless, for example FLAC or APE or whatever format.

I hope that I wrote it down in an understandable way. :-\


Title: Re: 06.28.87 [Apple Lossless]
Post by: CheapJon on February 26, 2007, 01:20:57 PM
I can't go on not knowing this so i have to ask..


What does lossless mean?

If you have a recording like a bootleg on a Silver CD, let's take the "Silent Shots" boot, you will be able to rip the audio to your PC. If you rip it to mp3, you will be able to hear a difference to the original recording on the CD. That is because it has been compressed. A 3 minute song with a bitrate of 128kbps would have a size of approx. 4-5MB. If you want to have the quality of the recording to remain, you have to rip it to a format that has no quality loss, therefore lossless, for example FLAC or APE or whatever format.

I hope that I wrote it down in an understandable way. :-\

yeah i think i got it, thanks


Title: Re: 06.28.87 [Apple Lossless]
Post by: Ericnor on February 26, 2007, 03:30:55 PM
Thanks for the info there Limulus  :)

-Eirik