Here Today... Gone To Hell!

 I　know just only it's April.  But They are coming to Japan!!!!!
Date and venue are unknown .
 Japanese promoter CREATIVE MAN annnounced today!!
Sorry for my poor English . Im a Japanese.
http://www.creativeman.co.jp/FRONTpages/news.html

A tour? not just 2~3 shows?

Edit: welcome to the board. :beer:

Fuckin great,i Live 1000 miles from japan,but Japan is great place for gunsnroses

THX for the info : ok:

Asian Democracy now.  :D

thanks. ?your english is very good compared to other japanese i work with. ?great!

great, if true :headbanger:

We already knew that.

Does it say how many shows?

thanks for the info.
your english isn't poor, don't worry.

THANKS BUD.
I don't know how many shows they're doing. But they says 3 or 4 shows.(romour)
In Japan ,there're a lot of GNR fans.And they've been waiting .
The last show in Japan in 2002,the stadium was full packed,(50000audience)and the show was great.

woow! Great! this is GOOOOOOD news! Hope for some official tour update on gunsnroses.com !!

hey, welcome aboard =)
I'm from Brazil, so.. can you translate what it says in the creativeman homepage?
Thanks a lot

It's the first show from 14years ago 1993.(GNR own tour not the festival show /////2002show was the headliner of SUMMER SONIC FES.) The details coming soon.

I just Love that they go to all thses places like japan, south africa etc, those fans really deserve stuff like this, hope the southamericans and australian will get some confirmed shows soon :beer:




and dude welcome to the board :headbanger:

So polly it's not really a tour like from hokkaido to okinawa but just a few shows.

I have many non japanese friends in japan.

Domo!? Thank you for the news Masa.? Your english is very good.

In the US, we hear that Guns N' Roses is very popular in Japan, so the concerts there will be 'sold out' and have many excited fans.? I went to the US show in Washington DC (Baltimore) and it was very exciting.? The band is very polished and professional, and Axl's voice is very good.? Remember to stay in the concert after the last song, because Axl will appear again and say 'thank you'.? We hope you enjoy the show very much.

Arrigato,

 : ok:

-ZIG

Oooh I move to Korea in a few weeks... I just may have to make the short flight over!

No korean date?


I'd say better than ever. :headbanger:

The popularity is a little overrated. I think 130 million people and 15 million sized cities got more to do with the high attendances.

Come on polluxlm, every country has its domestic music scene. English is not spoken in every country. 

I'm just saying there's no reason for gn'r to be 'extra' popular in Japan than any other non-english country.

It's just large population combined with limited concerts.

OK, I did some translation...

Article in Japanese:

Article in Engrish: ?(ガンズ = Guns N' Roses, ローゼズ = Axl Rose)

Revised by ZIG:

The site looks like the 'Blabbermouth' of Japan...

 ;D

-ZIG

Hopefully this leg isn't dedicated to us downloading muther f%&%$$ too.....

Japan is no exception I see, the mandatory 'miracle' and 'soon' are both used. :hihi:

What you mean?


I guess it is. Well maybe not as popular as in south America.
According to my friends who teach english in Japan, they have 26 GNR numbers ready at karaoke venues.

Is it true Masa?

I cant see em there

but damn, thats GREAT!

Cant wait for em to get back on the road!

Are you from Korea? Are they popular there?

Could I answer? :rofl:

If you can, go ahead.

Ah, disappointing :'(

Can someone explain this conversation to me?  ???

 :rofl:

read between the lines.....I can't!

Edit: Well maybe polluxlm was disappointed at my comeback. polly that wasn't good enough.  :-[

CD starts now :smoking:

When there's a failure to communicate.  :smoking:

Think about it.

I see, but why don't you want that to happen?

Yeah but it's an ambiguous sentence.

Jeez, people...I personally do not want another leg of the tour which only  promotes the leaks...there I said.

Don't jeez me if you can't express yourself properly. I thought you were reffering to the idea of more leaks.

I expressed myself exactly as I wanted. Sorry if you can't extrapolate a thought forward....

So you think it's not unfair for the fans of the world not to experience a show with that set for once at least?

Don't be sorry, just don't jeez.

double negative, huh?

I am not speaking for those fans, but on behalf of myself, I hope that the material presented on these upcoming legs is material that none of us have heard. I don't believe I am alone in this desire.

To tour on that 2006 setlist after cancellations were made to finish the album would be very sketchy in my mind.

If the album isn't out we won't see many changes. Maybe, just maybe 1 new song.

There's a reason Axls touring 'starved' parts of the world.

That is,  they are starved for GNR.


Haha, confusing huh?

So, you could have put that as "Hopefully this leg IS dedicated to us downloading muther f%&%$$ too....."
to avoid a confusion.  :hihi:

Confusion? Where?

 :hihi:

No, I understood what you meant. It is just sloppy writing.

For Axl and the band's sake, the album needs to be totally completed, turned over to the label, and guaranteed to come out on day xx/xx/2007 by the time the tour starts; whether announced or not. The letter in December bought the band time; now it is time to deliver. More of the same setlist is not going to please many fans hoping for this ordeal to end. But such is life as a GnR fan.

what do you think,will gnr play in "tokyo dome"?

Yeah, it's about time Axl gets on board too. But considering they probably won't have much problem filling up seats in Africa, South America and Asia I don't really have the greatest feeling.

I doubt it. There must be newer venues.

So rry. :(
I knew you got what I said from your reply.

Japan doesn't really have limited concerts. Between festivals like Fuji Rocks and Summersonic, and solo tours, it actually gets a good deal of them. Plus, Jrock/Jpop bands dominate - the market for Japanese acts is huge. Foreign bands also do good because there is a huge interest in English bands that isn't found in other countries. So yeah there is reason for them to be extra popular.

Arigatou gozaimasu masa-san!

Limited gn'r concerts.

This is great news, I'm going to live in Japan for a year starting next Wednesday and I've never seen them live.

Kore was chansu da ne.

This is awsome news, But like I said before I dont think it will be right without the albums release date announced and without playing more songs off the album...And hopefully rthey do a full tour of these countries..I wish them huge success

This is very good news indeed. let's hope we have even better news coming up along with the official announcement of japan!!

sweetness  :D

nice find and welcome :beer:

This is great news, Bands usually tour Australia very very close to their japan dates!!!  : ok:

GNR please make a pit stop and play in Honolulu before going to Asia!

how quickly everyone forgot what a small percentage of the concert audience that bb visitors are  :rofl:

the set could stay the same till dec 07 and it wouldn't make a difference to 97% of the people in the crowd who only see the band once a year.  :hihi:

what was it axl called you guys? can someone refresh my memory?

I cant count how many times i saw the band in 06 and as a real fan i never got sick of the almost-same set.  :beer:

and most major acts dont play more than a few songs off a new album no matter what phase or stage the release is at. so get over that too.  :rant:

again this is not a good thing if you want the album out this year.  Bands tour these places last and so its a good sign that this will be the last tour before the album but most likely the album will not be out until after this tour.  So it looks like late 2007 now.  Didnt axl say that the first sign of delay he'd inform fans?  I really would be so much happier about these tours and chances for bootlegs or DVDs if they just told the truth about the album.  Also it should be noted to the people who are claiming that most bands dont play primarily new songs, thats definitely not true, since new songs almost always are highlighted and when only 1/8 band members were not there for the majority of the set, you should play primarily what THAT BAND worked on.  Yes, this is GNR and they have the right to play all of AFD and the rest of the collection, but comeon, if this band wants to be taken seriously by non GNR addicts, then focus on things that this band has done.

Great Korea!   Where is the fuckin albumn

Dates in the US were canceled to allow time for the album to be completed and released. Why is it then ok to promote the same albumless tour another ten months? I'm sorry, but Axl's December letter bought him time to finish his work, not to restart the same nostalgia tour in another part of the world for another two or three seasons.

I totally agree, its nice that people all over the globe get to see GnR, but it shouldnt be because GnR cant do another North American/European tour without an album.  I really dont see how you can cancel concerts to finish an album and then schedule new concerts without the album coming out.  NIN's album isnt coming out till mid-April and they already have the album done and 2 tracks on their myspace page/radio station.  I really dont see how this album could possibly come out before June but I really hope Im wrong, but hell its not like I wont buy the album if it comes out in 2010, just sick of the lying to fans.

Has anyone considered that the scheduling of these dates might just mean that recording of the album is complete?

Like the 2 last tours you mean? Or was it 3? Touring doesn't mean anything in regards to an album.

I'm thinking the record is done.  Why else would Axl cancel his U.S. dates and then do another tour?!!??!

Axl said himself that alot of effort was needed to get the album to the label and eventually into the stores. Because Ax; is the point man between the band, management, and the label, he could make a grave mistake if he felt that he could coordinate between these groups while on tour.  Before we forget, the last leg proved definitively that the band needed to take care of its recording duties before hitting the road. 

I cannot fathom Axl taking the band abroad again with the same setlist and in support of internet leaks. His December letter was a promise to deliver the album with a tentative date of March 6th.  If all the work is done, then a tour beginning after this time period should be in support of the album, not the same material which propelled the last leg.

I cannot really fathom him doing it either, consciously. But it seems Axl got a tendency of commiting before he knows if he'll meet the deadlines. Unfortunately that has happened one time too many.

Or on the other hand there could be a new statement from axl, (who did say that he would talk if things change) . And for all we know now the album has been turned over , and lining up these dates now is part of the promotion. IMO its always hard to tell, but I look at it like this ...

  This isn't 2002, or 3,4, ,5 , hell even 6 but 2006 brought about more to bring this saga for CD to a close, and finally see it  come out. I'd like to believe now stronger than in the past that alot of this is prep to kick things off . And hell its great that the band is going to be touring other parts of the world. I do however feel that the set list wont change dramatically. And I have no problem with that, till they go back to other places they have been last yr.

For god sakes Gnr, COME TO AUSTRALIA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

then japan,
then Mexico
then , if you have time, and you realllly want to, only if you really want to, tour New Zealand. :beer:

It's very hard to tell. If there is no word and these dates commence with the same setlist, it is very hard to feel anything but deja vu, all over again, to paraphrase a great man.  If the promotion machine is in place, a single on the way, and untapped markets penetrated, then more of the wait game is not unacceptable. But if fans are still holding their breath since that December letter, waiting for word to rise to the surface and take a gulp of air, more of the same most likely will be met with more contempt.

I hope GN'R will play a Live Earth concert (organized around the world by Al Gore)   :yes:

that would kick so much ass

I heard Japan tour is 5 days.....

lol i've thought about it too

haha,gnr will play in north korea,because they stoped nuclear program

http://cgi.ebay.com/BURRN-07-03-KISS-TRIVIUM-GUNS-N-ROSES-Japan-mag-NEW_W0QQitemZ170080454890QQihZ007QQcategoryZ280QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

It's also mentioned in the March 2007 issue of Burrn! Magazine on the cover.

I think Axl is going anywhere he can make money.  These are some of the places he hasn't hit yet with the 3rd CD Tour with no album. 

i am live at china.i think i will go to japan for the guns n roses
thanks this info~

did anybody translate this yet?

   I agree with this post. I just have one question.

What management ?? There is no Management....Did I miss something  :confused:

arent they still managed by sanctuary? :-\

Translation to American English: I fucking live in China. Hell, I think I will go to Japan to see the Guns N Roses concert.
Thanks for the fucking information dude.

i mean the link in the first post of the thread smart ass :hihi:

neemo, I think that's all for now.

thanks ppbebe :D

so there no date or anything yet :-\ ...i'm assuming at least april so its hardly impromptu :hihi:

Tour Date (unofficial)
14.04.07  TOKYO(@CHIBA. MAKUHARI MESSE)
15.04.07  TOKYO(@CHIBA. MAKUHARI MESSE)
18.04.07  NAGOYA(@RAINBOW HALL)
21.04.07  OSAKA(@INTEX)
22.04.07  OSAKA(@INTEX)

Source  http://www.sanspo.com/geino/top/gt200702/gt2007022212.html

Damn, so the tour might start early-mid April! Great news! :)

How big are those venues by the way?

What I could dig up from wikipedia...

Makuhari Messe - 9,000
http://www.m-messe.co.jp/facility_eventhall_e.html

Nagoya Rainbow Hall - 8,000

"CHIBA. MAKUHARI MESSE" is where japan held their show for live 8, 10,000 were there back then, (from wikipedia)
RAINBOW HALL can hold 8,000 according to wikipedia
dunno about the last one.

i hope axl don't scream "i wanna hear you scream tokyo!!!........ osaka" when he's in osaka like he did 2002 :rofl: :hihi:

 TOKYO 10,000～15,000?
 NAGOYA10,000?
 OSAKA 15,000?
 The venues of Tokyo and Osaka are oconvencion halls,so trere are no seats and the arena of shows are all-standing.

 http://www.m-messe.co.jp/
http://www.intex-osaka.com/
http://www.intex-osaka.com/
 

OFFICIAL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

http://www.creativeman.co.jp/2007/GNR_special/index.html
 :peace: :peace: :peace: :peace: :peace:

i guess

but, id still rather wait until we get an official announcement from the GN'R camp before i get my hopes up

which cities are all those gigs in? i could obviously spot 2 (osaka) but that's about it. could you tell me?

tokyo and nagoya.....

pretty cool promo by the way. were the 2006 legs officialy called chinese democracy world tour by the way?

Not world tour. European Tour and North American Tour

For anyone who might be interested:

Some of the bands/concerts that have played the following venues in the past......

Tokyo Makuhari Messe
- Live8
- Megadeth
- Rage Against The Machine
- Velvet Revolver
- Green Day

Nagoya Rainbow Hall
- Eric Clapton
- Coldplay
- Bon Jovi
- Metallica
- Kiss

Osaka Intex
- Coldplay
- Velvet Revolver
- Green Day
- Oasis
- Radiohead

If the cd is not out before this I say who cares. 

This is very cool, but I'm kinda curious as to why they're focusing on Honshu so much. There's a million people up in Sapporo, Hokkaido who would probably love a show!

I guess the Kyushu people can make the trip for the Osaka shows though.

And for those who don't know, Chiba is close to Tokyo. Nagoya is the 4th or 5th largest city in Japan.

I don't get why they are doing Japan and then South Africa straight after? Wouldn't it make more sense to do the Asia area and then come down to Australia...?

yeah, but not much makes sense in the world of gnr :hihi:

Well thats true. Just as long as they come to Australia some time this year, the sooner the better.

Though later would mean more time for me to save...

This is excellent!

Australian dates are surely next! I've been waiting around 15 years for this!!!!  ;D

A friend of mine who went to the Dublin show last year with me is currently in Japan and took a picture of a GN'R poster on the street for the Japanese tour:

(http://www.gnrfrance.net/groupe/miniature.php?tnH=500&url=/concerts/2007/japan/0414_tokyo/ligalik-affiche-zoom.jpg)
(don't worry he's kidding about the middle finger ;D)

High resolution pic here: http://www.gnrfrance.net/groupe/galerie.php?path=/concerts/2007/japan/0414_tokyo

great pic and a cool poster. cheers will.

Awesome. I love how that Donington pic was used for the promotion  :hihi:

Wow that is a great picture

Is it still there or is it in his Backpack

So tickets on-sale today. Knowing the Japanese, at least a couple of these should be sold-out.

This is so cool, can't wait for australia.....love that poster too!

Why aren't any of these dates on GNR's official site?

Or are they and I am just not finding them?

THX for the pic

Probably something to do with gnronline still having the 2002 dates up. GNR style.

Cool pic, if that was me i would have taken that pic home.

GNROnline has nothing up at the moment actually, and its GunsNRoses.com thats the official site

Wow, only took them 4 years.

Ticket of the japanese show (April 14, 2007) Makuhari Messe, Japan :

http://www.gunsnrosesbrasil.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=34430#34430

By: beta F!inck of Guns N' Roses Brasil Forum.
Thanks beta F!nck!

There will probably be an "update" on the GNR website soon.  I wonder who will be first to complain.

I'll see if they'll put the dates on there

Cool.  I'm sure I'm not the only one who's worried at this point.

Thanks Mysteron.

So GN'R WORLD TOUR...

From that I infer that they will play in Europe/North America at some point this year.

the whiners about whiners are as bad whiners as any.

Why? Playing at Asia, Africa and South America isn't "world tour" enough? :P

No, no, no...untill they play in the old continent again ;D

I cant find info about the capacity of the Intex-Osaka center.

Makuhari Messe and the Nagoya Rainbow hall have a 10.000 capacity.

Intex-Osaka:

(http://img454.imageshack.us/img454/7545/64742813ao6.th.jpg) (http://img454.imageshack.us/my.php?image=64742813ao6.jpg)(http://img161.imageshack.us/img161/9307/kouku1xc4.th.jpg) (http://img161.imageshack.us/my.php?image=kouku1xc4.jpg)(http://img471.imageshack.us/img471/9128/intexosakazh4.th.jpg) (http://img471.imageshack.us/my.php?image=intexosakazh4.jpg)

Nagoya Rainbow Hall:

(http://img393.imageshack.us/img393/1913/nagoyarainbowhallpanoracv8.th.jpg) (http://img393.imageshack.us/my.php?image=nagoyarainbowhallpanoracv8.jpg)

Makuhari Messe 9-11

(http://img252.imageshack.us/img252/1144/makuharimesse911hallvl2.th.jpg) (http://img252.imageshack.us/my.php?image=makuharimesse911hallvl2.jpg)

(http://img252.imageshack.us/img252/2706/japangnrtj1.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)

They better come to Australia

W Axl Rick

BBF says not to believe anything until it's posted on the official site.

Has anyone else a bad feeling about this tour? I mean it is pretty sure to assume that CD will not be out before the start of the tour since Axl wanted to have a full promo approach and we did not hear about a release date yet.
 
And I really can not understand why it is so fucking hard in the world of GnR to announce a full tour a couple of months ahead...they always plan the tour while they are on the road. I do not know if GnR is the only band who are doing it this way, but most concerts at least in Germany are announced between 3 and even up to 12 months in advance!!!! And with GnR it seems like: hmm lets start a tour; have a couple of dates here, anounce them 1 month in advance max; then fly over to south africa...we gonna see where we play next when we are there!?

Do not get me wrong I am very happy that GnR are touring again and it is really great for all the people in Japan and South Africa...but goddamn it, there may be loads of fans who want to make travel arrangements before a flight costs 300% more.
Btw. anyone knows who is in charge of mangement right now?

Y know, as much as I look forward to CD and see GnR tour there seem to be so many problems: No CD release date; tourplan seems very uncertain and planned last minute; management? nobody knows who is in charge: who is gonna kick Axl`s ass when he does not feel to perform?

The dates are on the official site.  Click on the tour dates link.

not mine but a ticket for Japan concert here  :)


(http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r116/zweifel/DSC00374.jpg)

The japanese fans are overdue for a good dose of GnR. Have fun!!


I noticed the 7 Eleven logo on your ticket. They have those in Japan?

sure. since 7Eleven is worldwide store, there are more than 5000 place in Japan (AFAIK)
they can buy tickets for concert, music cds, books, PlayStation, etc in there.
btw, I'm from Korea and 7Eleven is easy to find in here,too.

What is 7Eleven? ???

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/7_eleven

and to be on-topic.. Yeah i'm happy for the japs :yes: :headbanger:

http://news.aol.com/topnews/articles/_a/japan-quake-leaves-1-dead-162-injured/20070324212609990001?ncid=NWS00010000000001


There was an earthquake in Tokoyo.

Will this hamper GNR now playing there?

Oh thank you. I think we don?t have these in Spain.

On topic: being honest...I?m not happy for the Japs, I?m fucking jealous! ;D

And about the earthquake in Tokio, well, people there are used to them and I?m sure everything will go well. There are a lot of earthquakes where I live and GNR played here last summer with any kind of problems and we have earthquakes almost every day ;). They?ll be safe.

http://news.aol.com/topnews/articles/_a/japan-quake-leaves-1-dead-162-injured/20070324212609990001?ncid=NWS00010000000001

read that.

It was pretty bad.

I don't know much about earthquakes because we don't get them where I live but this one looks pretty scary.

for ppl who doesn't know... evry day in japan (and more in Tokyo) has an earthquake (and maybe 3 to 5 times in a day)
but this one was kinda bad :S 6.9 ritcher scale  :-X

Could be cool if they'd record these concerst on DVD and release them

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whoa - gnr has a 7/11 sponsor in japan. I didn't know 7/11 was global...   wonder if they will start the show at 7:11....  :rofl:

That may, actually, be where the ticket was bought.

You can get pretty much everything at a 7-11 in Japan....from popcorn to video games (new releases) to ipods to CD's and...yes...concert tickets.  Alas, no slurpees or big gulps, though.

7-11 is Japanese. A Japanese company bought the entire thing a while back. The same company that runs Ito-Yokado (Japanese department store chain).

And yeah, convenience stores in Japan rock, I lived out of them for a while.

And while they don't have slurpees, you can get burritos, bento, pasta, snacks, pop, etc., the usual stuff. I never saw popcorn though. CDs and DVDs etc, and you can have shit shipped to the store to pick up there like a post-office kind of.

You can also pay your bills at convenience stores. So yeah, they might be in the ticket biz.

So is this it? They only tour Japan and SA and then go back to LA? I mean if it was a bigger tour we should slowly but surely hear about more dates should we not?

maybe theyll stop off in china to film a video for chinese democracy lol

GNR world tour 07 starts in japan and ends in sa?  :hihi:

I think we will slowly but surely hear about more dates.

Well technically in 2002 there was a world tour with fewer concerts.... I mean by playing asia and africa now they play 2 continents :hihi:

But as I said before, if there is more to come they should really hurry up...I mean without an album (i think it won`t come out before the tour)  they can?t assume that GnR will sell out everywhere within 2 weeks!!!

It's so easy! And I think that's an awesome picture! What better way to promote a concert with a picture Axl with a massive crowd!?

As above... right when he says, "Why don't you just.... FUCK OFF!"

Hey, if you're a chick and your name is really Crystal, you should marry someone with the last name "Rose" and you would have the coolest name on the planet  :hihi: