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I know that this is speculation, but in a discussion at www.rosesofvelvet.com, elmir brought up that it's possible that GNR could be looking to shoot a video in South Africa.  Here's what was said:


That got me thinking that this would be a prime location to shoot a video for Madagascar.  I don't know if it was brought up before, but I think that it kind of makes sense.  I know that to us diehards, it's an old song, but I think that being in South Africa, the band has a wonderful opportunity to do something great with it and reintroduce the world to Guns N' Roses.
1. The title of the song is Madagascar, which is part of Africa.
2. The song features quotes from Nelson Mandela, the former Prime Minister of South Africa.
3. The theme of the song could be emphasized using images and clips from the nation, which has been a site of conflict in the past.

Maybe they're looking to get clips in South Africa to use in the video.  Maybe they're looking to get some footage of Axl and the band with Nelson Mandela.  Either way, I find it interesting that they're heading to South Africa with the intention of kicking off a Chinese Democracy 2007 tour, while they have a song that is closely tied to the area.

Well, I think Madagascar would make an absolutely amazing video. I also think it would be a cool first single. However, I don't think they will use it for the first single. I just can't see it happening. Also, we don't know if they are actually kicking off in South Africa....I'm pretty sure that some dates will be added before that show....especially if Chinese Democracy is coming out in March or even early April, I don't see them sitting around for a month. But I like your train of thought, I mean....it's possible, but with GN'R, I just don't see that happening.

Not the proper release for a fist single, but not a bad theory by any means.

I think that type of footage would be in cool in a video for Madagascar. I think at this point its a safe bet to say better will be the first singe. But they will have more than one video released and Madagascar wouldn't be a bad second video to follow up better.? :smoking:

Of course, there's always room for them to have another song out there first and use footage from the RSA shows to have a video for Madagascar.  It doesn't have to happen right away.  I think if they play their cards right, they can have a single out in March or early April, use the RSA shows to shoot a video for Madagascar and release that as a single somewhere down the road.

They could release two singles at once. Madagascar and and then a harder sounding song. Disturbed released two singles with their last album. It's possible but anything is.

Yea, Madagascar's too slow to be the lead single.? Better's totally going to be the first single.? It'd be awesome if they shot the video there, but I'd really rather if they shot it at my house.

I really like the bluegrass cover of Madagascar that the Mother Goose Pickers do.? They're easily the best Pitman bluegrass tribute band out there today.

Well they did release You Could Be Mine and Don't Cry as singles at the same time in '91, so I guess anything is possible. If they were going to go that route, then I'd say Better has to be released at the same time as Madagascar.

Madagascar and TWAT are, in my opinion, both better songs than ''Better'' and ''Chinese Democracy''. But I also think that the FIRST single must be a rocker like them. Madagascar MUST have a video, it could be huge, epic. It's a masterpiece. But it should not be the first single, same for TWAT.

If I were Axl, I would make videos (in this order) for 1) Better, 2) Madagascar, 3) TWAT, 4) CD

Anyway... why Southafrica if it can be made in Madagascar itself?  ???

i agree have a single to win over the Female base like madagascar or the blues, and have a single to win over the Male base like Better or IRS :hihi:

i think they should release Rhiad and the beduins as a single, i think thats a pretty cool hard song you can bang your head too ya know :headbanger:




how many can there be ??? ::)


 :peace:

i've also thought that

and TWAT should definatly be a single its to good a song for it not to be. i'm thinkin maybe the 3rd or 4th single :beer:

sounds like a great idea..but we all know its not going to happen.

ever been to Madagascar?

If Madagascar is to be the second single I see it as very possible. Especially considering that the SA promoter seem to have been given an exclusive deal with GN'R.

i happen to know from serious sources that the first video will be shot on Mars.

I don't think TWAT would make it as a "hit" single.  Sure it would sell a fair amount of copies, but songs like Better, Madagascar, and whatever else CD has to offer will beat TWAT out of the race for the single selection.  Madagascar is a GREAT song, they should use clips from the concert footage playing behind the song added with new clips!!

just so you know, there are NO quotes from Mandela in the song, NOTHING

Well, I like Backslash's idea here.  I guess it all depends on how long the guys will be in southern Africa.  If they've got about 2 weeks, yeah, I'll buy it, but if they're just there for the shows, I think they'll likely just have some more concert footage. 

I love the intensity of this song.  It was the first new song I heard after Oh My God from the band.  Madagascar from Rio was the song that brought me in, or should I say, "lured me in."
 ;)  The heartfelt intro in Axl's own words in Rio really hit me. 

Honestly, when it comes to order of videos released, if any, I could care less.  Yeah, for mass appeal, a rocker like Better or CD itself would be great, followed by The Blues or Maddy...but we haven't even heard half the songs so talk about order is crazy.   :peace:

PS: he may have confused MLK for Nelson Mandela...similar non-violent protest angles used successfully to further the cause of equality.  Quality human beings.  :beer:

why yes!!
The red planet!
How could we not have seen it?!

Why not?  It would make sense to me since a lot of production companies look to film outside the US to cut production costs that result from working with unions.

Write this down. M.A.R.S. That's right! Mars, bitches! - President Black Bush

Yeah, I realized that this morning.  I didn't confuse him with Martin Luther King or anything, I just thought there was a Mandela speech quote in there somewhere.  I apologize for that.    :beer: 

Of course, a Mandela quote wouldn't be a bad idea, if they plan to keep the quotes.  I presume that when they play at RSA, they'll have images of Mr. Mandela on the video screen during that song.  It makes sense.

oh god, i hope not....every western star which comes here kisses Mandela's ass so much that its becoming so boring to watch...the local crowd can't stand listening to it anymore.....Bono is the worst....he even got publicly bashed by a radio dj here for having used the word "mandela" 5 times in one sentence...

its nice that the whole world admires him, but they should leave it at that....focus on their own set and performance instead...

what would work much better is if Axl was to learn some local words and spin those around every now and again....that will impress the locals much more...

As far as I can tell, it doesn't.

It does, however, contain many quotes by Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.




/jarmo

FUCK the video bullshit....I just want to hear new tracks.....Just a single of Madagascar would be fine with me.....That song will be classic.....A video is secondary.....it would be cool to see a new video but....first thing is FUCKIN' first.

It also has quotes from Morgan Freeman's character in the movie Se7ven.  If you haven't seen it, go rent it!  A woman gets fucked by a dude with knives on his dick and it cuts her pussy up until she dies.  Also this killer murders a pregnant woman and cuts her head off.

Just a little of that AFD attitude sneaking in!!!

Yeah, I addressed that here:

For the sake of argument, let's presume that Better is indeed the 1st single.  Based purely upon those songs which we have heard, I'd think "The Blues" would be a great pick for the customary demographic-widening second single ballad, with either footage from the SA shows used for either Madagascar or TWAT for single 3.  If they elect to use  live footage for Better, ten well, that's pretty much out the window, but for some odd reason, I find it hard to envision this band using sound stages or sets for videos.  I don't know why, but I have a hard time picturing that style of video from these guys.