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Title: As a front man in rock, Axl Rose is...
Post by: W 23 AXL II on February 10, 2007, 01:40:31 PM
i just watched the stones call axl n izzy up for "salt of the earth" in 1989....Axl kills Jagger. Axl and Petty in 89, Axl rules Petty....Axl and Springsteen same year i think, maybe 1990? still the same case, axl rose wins.

I know I believe Axl Rose is the greatest front man of all time, better even than Plant. Why do you think Axl is #1. Thats a big title, number one front man of all time......and if u disagree, who is???? in my eyes, no one comes close to the magic and energy that Axl Rose has....he demands attention, has the most unique and coolest voice, great song-writer, great stage presence.....seriously, who is better?? NO ONE!


Title: Re: As a front man in rock, Axl Rose is...
Post by: CheapJon on February 10, 2007, 01:42:32 PM
I think lots of people here will say freddie mercury,


i dunno myself, i have always loved steven tyler but not the way i love axl, david lee roth, jim morrison is 2 other big ones, but probably still axl

and btw plant is overrated


Title: Re: As a front man in rock, Axl Rose is...
Post by: W 23 AXL II on February 10, 2007, 01:46:08 PM
I think lots of people here will say freddie mercury,


i dunno myself, i have always loved steven tyler but not the way i love axl, david lee roth, jim morrison is 2 other big ones, but probably still axl

and btw plant is overrated

im not sure Plant is overrated, look at that body  of work, watch those long3 hour concerts....the guy never complained, did his job amazingly, and wrote all-time classics. i dont think his stage presence, aura, and magic touch Axl though.


Title: Re: As a front man in rock, Axl Rose is...
Post by: Tommie on February 10, 2007, 02:01:10 PM
Yeah but one reason Axl is so cool (atleast to me) is that he does complain, and he bitches and moans at the concerts.  It all adds to the unexpectability surrounding(sp) the man, and I personally love it.


Title: Re: As a front man in rock, Axl Rose is...
Post by: jimb0 on February 10, 2007, 02:04:12 PM
As a front man in rock, Axl Rose is...     God?

There is no doubt about it that his personality and presence are amazing.  I think he moved around a lot more in 2002, and comparing the in person situations in those four years he definitely seem to have a better voice rather than better moves now a days.   

BUT he still has his magical moments, more rather than less, and at 45 now?  is showing more charisma than front men half his fucking age.

As for the voice, over the years, hit or miss, but as far as watching him, he was and maybe still a god among men. 


Title: Re: As a front man in rock, Axl Rose is...
Post by: Loaded NightraiN on February 10, 2007, 02:05:29 PM
Axl and Springsteen same year i think, maybe 1990?


1994 RnR Hall of Fame



i have always loved steven tyler


Ughh brutal... His screams and yip yappin make me sick :puke:

On topic... Yeah Axl owns... To bad he wasted so many years!


Title: Re: As a front man in rock, Axl Rose is...
Post by: supaplex on February 10, 2007, 02:08:49 PM
Axl and Springsteen same year i think, maybe 1990?


1994 RnR Hall of Fame

what he said. it was axl's last performance until he sang with gilby in 2000 i think.

and i don't think axl's the greatest. he's my favorite but the greatest is freddie mercury. :peace:


Title: Re: As a front man in rock, Axl Rose is...
Post by: Lucky on February 10, 2007, 02:16:59 PM
just to be on the same page...
how do you define a "frontman"?


Title: Re: As a front man in rock, Axl Rose is...
Post by: pollyblue on February 10, 2007, 02:31:13 PM
everybody here loves axl. and to mee he is the best too. but we're are not objective. i know there are better singers. and axl loses he's timing sometimes. but that's one of the reasons why i like him!


Title: Re: As a front man in rock, Axl Rose is...
Post by: Walapino on February 10, 2007, 02:32:58 PM
Axl didnt smoke Jagger, be reasonable.


Title: Re: As a front man in rock, Axl Rose is...
Post by: lennonisgod on February 10, 2007, 02:34:08 PM

On topic... Yeah Axl owns... To bad he wasted so many years!

"Wasting" all of those years is just one of the many things that makes Axl who he is. It's what makes him unique. The guy does what he wants when HE wants too. He doesn't give a shit about what ANYONE has to say about it. He lives by his rules and doesn't even follow those half the time. He's Axl fucking Rose and he's in a league of his own in my eyes. That's why I spend so much time at this fucking website... because I BELIEVE in what he has done and what he's about to do.


Title: Re: As a front man in rock, Axl Rose is...
Post by: Jackamo! on February 10, 2007, 02:34:32 PM
Axl looked silly up there with Bruce. Don't say Axl "killed" him. : ok:


Title: Re: As a front man in rock, Axl Rose is...
Post by: Howard2k on February 10, 2007, 02:44:29 PM
It's all personal opinion really...   I think Paul Stanley and Steven Tyler are awesome.  As much as I love GNR, I don't think Axl is a God.   In fact, people like Josh Todd have better crowd interaction IMHO.


Title: Re: As a front man in rock, Axl Rose is...
Post by: von on February 10, 2007, 02:46:36 PM
Axl's up there, high, but the best frontman ever is Freddie.


Title: Re: As a front man in rock, Axl Rose is...
Post by: polluxlm on February 10, 2007, 02:52:04 PM
Freddie and Patton are without a doubt the 2 best singers I've ever seen, but you just can't beat Axl as a frontman.

Shaking, running like a madman around the stage, jumping, ranting, flying in the crowd to beat up obnoxious fans. The guy is a fuckin' show himself.


Title: Re: As a front man in rock, Axl Rose is...
Post by: Pinball Wizard on February 10, 2007, 02:53:25 PM
Well, I think Axl Rose is one of the greatest rock and roll frontmen of all time, but he's too far away from being the best singer...


Title: Re: As a front man in rock, Axl Rose is...
Post by: lennonisgod on February 10, 2007, 02:57:35 PM
It's all personal opinion really...   I think Paul Stanley and Steven Tyler are awesome.  As much as I love GNR, I don't think Axl is a God.   In fact, people like Josh Todd have better crowd interaction IMHO.


You're right about that... it's based on opinion and of course we all have our own. For me, I don't like Steven Tyler or Paul Stanley all that much, but I do like Josh Todd. While I'm a big fan of Axl Rose I do not look at the guy as a "God." That would be a little ridiculous. My user name is Lennonisgod, but it's just my user name. I don't really look at John Lennon as some high almighty being, just a great, great musician and maybe the best of all-time.

With that said, each of us are going to have our own say about what makes Axl great TO US. The fact that we're all here in the first place, says so much about him as a frontman already. I don't think there is anyone out there still doing it today, that can match Axl's presence on the stage and his control over the crowd. The guy's what, 45 now?? The dude still looks young and still sounds like he did 20 years ago.


Title: Re: As a front man in rock, Axl Rose is...
Post by: mustaine on February 10, 2007, 04:48:35 PM
Axl is my favorite frontman... I would say he's the best but there have been many great frontmen so there will be a lot of differnet answers. I just think that Axl's overall the best, when combining singing, attitude and stage presance.

If I was going only for stage presance I would pick Phil Anselmo, that dude owns the crowd but his singing live is lacking to say the least.


Title: Re: As a front man in rock, Axl Rose is...
Post by: GnFnR87 on February 10, 2007, 04:55:28 PM
i think overall hes at least top 3 or 4. everyone can argue freddie mercury and of course plant and maybe jagger, but to me Axl is my favorite.

some singers have the voice, but lack a bit in stage presence, some have great stage presence, but lack a bit in vocal power, but i think what makes Axl so great is that OVERALL hes fantastic. stage presence is off the chart, charisma is off the chart, he has one of the best voices and screams. and writing ability? if u compare his best works (estranged, breakdown, november rain, coma, etc.) to other singers, i think he is off the charts there too.

it depends on personal preference and what band u like the best, to me Axl wil always be the best frontman ever. and obviously my favorite.  but to the casual rock fan i have to say he should be at least top 3 or 4.


Title: Re: As a front man in rock, Axl Rose is...
Post by: dangnr on February 10, 2007, 05:10:43 PM
Axl owns the stage when he performs and is incredible I agree to say he is one of the best frontmen ever, but Robert Plant have you seen any footage of Zepplin concerts from back in the day Plant would make love to the songs lol incredible We Love Guns N Roses thats why were part of this site but we cant be that biased towards Axl to say that he is way better than the likes of Robert Plant, Mick Jagger, Tom Petty, look at the body of work all those guys have, and have kept it goin especially Jagger, where as Axl hasent released anything and has only played a handful of concerts in the last 15 years a handful compared to the stones anyway


Title: Re: As a front man in rock, Axl Rose is...
Post by: Loaded NightraiN on February 10, 2007, 05:14:23 PM

On topic... Yeah Axl owns... To bad he wasted so many years!

"Wasting" all of those years is just one of the many things that makes Axl who he is. It's what makes him unique. The guy does what he wants when HE wants too. He doesn't give a shit about what ANYONE has to say about it. He lives by his rules and doesn't even follow those half the time. He's Axl fucking Rose and he's in a league of his own in my eyes. That's why I spend so much time at this fucking website... because I BELIEVE in what he has done and what he's about to do.

As right as you are.. I hope he hasent waited to long to do this thing, just because he wanted to do what he wants....


Title: Re: As a front man in rock, Axl Rose is...
Post by: GNRfan2008 on February 10, 2007, 05:16:46 PM
He's certainly up there for sure. Freddie Mercury has a better voice but not a better stage presence. I'd say Axl is on a similar level to Robert Plant. Great voice, incredible stage presence - but Freddie's voice puts him into a league of his own since his stage presence is just as good as Axl and Plant's.


Title: Re: As a front man in rock, Axl Rose is...
Post by: SlashRock on February 10, 2007, 05:19:46 PM
As much as I love GnR, you're all kidding yourselves if you think he is the greatest frontman of all time. That title belongs to either Freddie Mercury of Jim Morrison. Axl is an amazing frontman but those two are just on a whole other level.


Title: Re: As a front man in rock, Axl Rose is...
Post by: BumbleFinck on February 10, 2007, 05:20:37 PM
I would say freddie mercury is the greatrest singer, followed by robin zander but in terms of frontmen, freddie wasn't THAT incredible. Axl is definitley one of, if not the best frontmen out there.


Title: Re: As a front man in rock, Axl Rose is...
Post by: estrangedpaul on February 10, 2007, 06:26:20 PM
I think lots of people here will say freddie mercury,


i dunno myself, i have always loved steven tyler but not the way i love axl, david lee roth, jim morrison is 2 other big ones, but probably still axl

and btw plant is overrated

You mightn't like Led Zeppelin but overrated is completely the wrong word. Led Zeppelin inspired every rock band that came after. Robert Plant wrote the book on Axl's style of singing. He was the first of those high-pitched rock n' roll singers. And unlike a lot of rock n' roll pioneers his ability still stands up against the best today, in his vocal range and his lyrics. I prefer Axl overall in the studio, as his lyrics are more relevant and coz of the way he sings, but live, Plant is untouchable. His consistency over concerts which stretched to over 3 hours regularly, was amazing. I think we can all admit, Axl was always inconsistent live (think Tokyo DVD's). When he's on form he is incredible, and I can understand why you'd prefer him, but calling Plant over-rated is rediculous, regardless of your personal tastes!


Title: Re: As a front man in rock, Axl Rose is...
Post by: novemberparadise23 on February 10, 2007, 06:28:17 PM
in no way is plant overrated

however i must say i like axl better in studio in live  :peace: but hey im a huge gnr nut  :beer:


Title: Re: As a front man in rock, Axl Rose is...
Post by: estranged27 on February 10, 2007, 07:30:09 PM
axl rose greatest frontman ever second only to bon scott


Title: Re: As a front man in rock, Axl Rose is...
Post by: A Private Eye on February 10, 2007, 07:35:38 PM
Freddie Mercury wins it for me as the greatest ever frontman.

Axl is probably the greatest frontman alive today  :yes:


Title: Re: As a front man in rock, Axl Rose is...
Post by: lennonisgod on February 10, 2007, 07:37:24 PM
As much as I love GnR, you're all kidding yourselves if you think he is the greatest frontman of all time. That title belongs to either Freddie Mercury of Jim Morrison. Axl is an amazing frontman but those two are just on a whole other level.

I don't think this thread is about, "Who the best frontman of all-time is??" That argument has been done a thousand times. I think this thread is more about what makes Axl a great frontman?? What makes him different than the thousands of others out there?? What makes him so unique??


Title: Re: As a front man in rock, Axl Rose is...
Post by: GNR4L on February 10, 2007, 07:39:16 PM
1. Axl Rose
2. Mick Jagger
3. Jim Morrison
4. Freddy Mercury
5. Robert Plant


Title: Re: As a front man in rock, Axl Rose is...
Post by: Alpachiris on February 10, 2007, 07:54:48 PM
definitively Rose, fucking icon and awesome artist!
nobody has doubts of that!!


Title: Re: As a front man in rock, Axl Rose is...
Post by: MadmanDan on February 10, 2007, 08:29:32 PM
Rose, Plant, Jagger, Tyler, Morrison, thay are all similar, they have a classic Rock N' Roll frontman aura. But Freddie was in a league of his own....


Title: Re: As a front man in rock, Axl Rose is...
Post by: RIFF-RAFF on February 10, 2007, 10:15:12 PM
Bon Scott's the greatest frontman but Axl comes close behind.  :yes:


Title: Re: As a front man in rock, Axl Rose is...
Post by: estranged27 on February 10, 2007, 10:21:27 PM
amen to that riff raff


Title: Re: As a front man in rock, Axl Rose is...
Post by: SlashRock on February 11, 2007, 07:45:06 AM
I don't think this thread is about, "Who the best frontman of all-time is??" That argument has been done a thousand times. I think this thread is more about what makes Axl a great frontman?? What makes him different than the thousands of others out there?? What makes him so unique??

Well erm..

i just watched the stones call axl n izzy up for "salt of the earth" in 1989....Axl kills Jagger. Axl and Petty in 89, Axl rules Petty....Axl and Springsteen same year i think, maybe 1990? still the same case, axl rose wins.

I know I believe Axl Rose is the greatest front man of all time, better even than Plant. Why do you think Axl is #1. Thats a big title, number one front man of all time......and if u disagree, who is???? in my eyes, no one comes close to the magic and energy that Axl Rose has....he demands attention, has the most unique and coolest voice, great song-writer, great stage presence.....seriously, who is better?? NO ONE!

Hence my reply.? : ok:


Title: Re: As a front man in rock, Axl Rose is...
Post by: bringbackadler on February 11, 2007, 07:58:26 AM
IMO, Axl easily owns the competition !? ?:yes:  :peace:


Title: Re: As a front man in rock, Axl Rose is...
Post by: angie62 on February 11, 2007, 08:37:15 AM
In my opinion
1. Bon Scott (cant believe its nearly 27 years since we lost him)
2. Axl
3. Gerard Way!!! (bet I get it in the neck for that one, but I think he,s fab)


Title: Re: As a front man in rock, Axl Rose is...
Post by: CAFC Nick on February 11, 2007, 09:28:34 AM
I think Axl is one of the best in biz, past or present. However, having seen the Chilis this year, I can say that Anthony Kiedis is a fucking great front man aswell.


Title: Re: As a front man in rock, Axl Rose is...
Post by: chineseroses on February 11, 2007, 09:48:35 AM
Axls the greatest for energy, Freddies the best for working the crowd and his voice.


Title: Re: As a front man in rock, Axl Rose is...
Post by: gnrfanxxx on February 11, 2007, 10:19:15 AM
in the 80's id say axl rose but today i like scott weiland (im gonna be killed for saying this) :nervous:


Title: Re: As a front man in rock, Axl Rose is...
Post by: Eduardo on February 11, 2007, 11:39:50 AM
Mick Jagger wrote the "How To be A Front Man" book. He influenced EVERY frontman you can think about. Axl didn't smoke Jagger.

About the one with Springsteen, sorry, but Axl SUCKED. His voice was awful that day. And if you think he's a better frontman than springsteen, is because probably you have never watched a Springsteen concert. The man simply owns the stage and the audience.


Title: Re: As a front man in rock, Axl Rose is...
Post by: W 23 AXL II on February 11, 2007, 12:05:51 PM
Mick Jagger wrote the "How To be A Front Man" book. He influenced EVERY frontman you can think about. Axl didn't smoke Jagger.

About the one with Springsteen, sorry, but Axl SUCKED. His voice was awful that day. And if you think he's a better frontman than springsteen, is because probably you have never watched a Springsteen concert. The man simply owns the stage and the audience.


this is not about one particular performance....in an overall sense, Axl smokes Jagger....and come on.....Axl destroys Springsteen. That night, signing Come Together, bruce looked like a 50 yr old deliveryman, Axl commanded the stage! Axl's worst notes were better and more exciting than bruce's best notes.

Bruce is for people who dont like hard rock, real rock....bruce is for chris "mad dog" russo on WFAN, bruce is for my uncle who is 55 yrs old and thinks bruce is an outlaw....please....axl rose is real. bruce is not even in the same league. Jagger, Plant, Morrison, Roth, Vince Neil, Tyler....ok those guys are in the same class with Axl, but Axl owns.

anything that jagger and bruce stood for, axl actually is. and as for freddie mercury....talented indvidual, but not the total package axl rose is.


Title: Re: As a front man in rock, Axl Rose is...
Post by: smugolo on February 11, 2007, 12:18:54 PM
freddie mercury is undoubtedly the greatest front man of all time. axl is in the top 5 for sure.


Title: Re: As a front man in rock, Axl Rose is...
Post by: Eduardo on February 11, 2007, 12:47:58 PM

this is not about one particular performance....in an overall sense, Axl smokes Jagger....and come on.....Axl destroys Springsteen. That night, signing Come Together, bruce looked like a 50 yr old deliveryman, Axl commanded the stage! Axl's worst notes were better and more exciting than bruce's best notes.

Bruce is for people who dont like hard rock, real rock....bruce is for chris "mad dog" russo on WFAN, bruce is for my uncle who is 55 yrs old and thinks bruce is an outlaw....please....axl rose is real. bruce is not even in the same league. Jagger, Plant, Morrison, Roth, Vince Neil, Tyler....ok those guys are in the same class with Axl, but Axl owns.

anything that jagger and bruce stood for, axl actually is. and as for freddie mercury....talented indvidual, but not the total package axl rose is.

Oh my god! Have you ever listened to Springsteen music? Real Rock??? Get his first 4 albums and come back here to talk about real rock! Listen to his early 1975 and 1978 boots man. Those concerts were the most amazing demonstrations of what rock n roll is really about! Do yourself a favor and download Springsteen's Passaic '78 bootleg. If the first half of the show doesn't change your opinion, I'm sorry, I can't help you

Now, Roth, Vince Neil?? C?mon man!


Title: Re: As a front man in rock, Axl Rose is...
Post by: Neemo on February 11, 2007, 12:52:15 PM
none of them are the best in music right now....to quote pantera vocalist Phil Anselmo


"Yesterday dont mean shit!" :peace:


Title: Re: As a front man in rock, Axl Rose is...
Post by: AxlRose4eva1 on February 11, 2007, 01:12:57 PM
I love Axl and feel that hes a great songwriter/musician, but as for overall presence live the best living frontman by far is Mike Patton.  Mike Patton rules the stage when he performs, he has incredible energy and his voice is amazing throughout every live performance, Axl reverts into a gritty voice sound when his voice isnt there some nights.  It still sounds cool, but its not like Pattons.  Also Patton can do everything, it doesnt matter the band or even the type of the music.  Axl is great, writes better songs, with more meaningful lyrics, but Patton is a visionary who could easily have been an opera singer.


Title: Re: As a front man in rock, Axl Rose is...
Post by: Neemo on February 11, 2007, 01:15:55 PM
yeah patton is amazing for sure..very versatile


Title: Re: As a front man in rock, Axl Rose is...
Post by: shaunbhoy on February 11, 2007, 01:34:54 PM
in my point of view l see Freddie Mercury first and Axl second as the best performers in the world.


Title: Re: As a front man in rock, Axl Rose is...
Post by: Donington2007 on February 11, 2007, 03:00:27 PM
I think lots of people here will say freddie mercury,


i dunno myself, i have always loved steven tyler but not the way i love axl, david lee roth, jim morrison is 2 other big ones, but probably still axl

and btw plant is overrated

anyone whose voice sucks live or doesnt move around alot is overrated imo too.


Title: Re: As a front man in rock, Axl Rose is...
Post by: RageNirvanaNIN on February 11, 2007, 03:02:19 PM
Steven owns axl no doubt. Sorry axl is probably in the top 10 but not the first. His attitude really kills it for him too. He can be a prick and that is a loss of cool points.


Title: Re: As a front man in rock, Axl Rose is...
Post by: CheapJon on February 11, 2007, 03:04:17 PM
someone mentioned vince niel, he has nothing to do with these other legends that has been mentioned, zach de la rocha kicks niels ass


Title: Re: As a front man in rock, Axl Rose is...
Post by: give_it_a_rest on February 11, 2007, 03:12:15 PM
Average I think,

Some people are just better, like Eddie Vedder or Roger Daltrey or James Hetfield or.........

But Axl is good anyway, he's maybe not the best front man in rock. but he's a damn good songwriter  :peace:


Title: Re: As a front man in rock, Axl Rose is...
Post by: Six Strings on February 11, 2007, 03:23:54 PM
I am sorry but I think that Vince Neil and David Lee Roth are nothing. Just some clowns that are messing around. Of course, only my opinion. Freddie is very good one, but doesn't have the rage that Axl has. Zach De La Rocha is very good also. Bono is incredible, Plant, Jager, Tylor and early Ozzy rock. I can't see anyone mentioning Layne Staley. He was great. If we talkin' about the voice talanted we have to mention early Elton John. It's dependable on the point of view. Phil Anselmo rules. BUT I like Axl the most!


Title: Re: As a front man in rock, Axl Rose is...
Post by: bringbackadler on February 11, 2007, 03:34:45 PM
I can't see anyone mentioning Layne Staley. He was great.


Layne Staley definitely deserves a shout out as one on the best front men, imo.   :peace:


Title: Re: As a front man in rock, Axl Rose is...
Post by: angie62 on February 11, 2007, 05:36:03 PM
Anybody feel we,re just killing time here?  we so need this record out.  After all this album is going to show the world what a fantastic front man Axl is!!!!!!!


Title: Re: As a front man in rock, Axl Rose is...
Post by: dangnr on February 11, 2007, 11:18:18 PM
alot of people forget about Bono, I seen him Live and he owns the stage. I seen Axl and he owns too, but in a different way because of his mystic and his prowl.


Title: Re: As a front man in rock, Axl Rose is...
Post by: Gargh! on February 12, 2007, 05:23:47 AM
What about Ronnie James Dio or Bruce Dickinson?


Title: Re: As a front man in rock, Axl Rose is...
Post by: Crowebar on February 12, 2007, 12:40:38 PM
What about Ronnie James Dio or Bruce Dickinson?

Yeah really.   ::)

How about Tom Araya???   ???

Just saw Slayer for the first time in Ottawa the other night and I have to say that Tom is awesome!!!   :beer:


Title: Re: As a front man in rock, Axl Rose is...
Post by: W. Adam S on February 12, 2007, 01:16:56 PM
#1 Freddie #2 Axl #3 Plant


Title: Re: As a front man in rock, Axl Rose is...
Post by: jarmo on February 12, 2007, 01:19:08 PM
What about Ronnie James Dio or Bruce Dickinson?

They're metal and were never able to cross over to other genres like some other front men.

As far as I'm concerned, Axl isn't part of one genre like that.

Mick Jagger, Freddie Mercury, Steven Tyler, Robert Plant, Bono etc etc are all legendary front men and aren't pigeonholed in one genre.





/jarmo


Title: Re: As a front man in rock, Axl Rose is...
Post by: St.heathen on February 12, 2007, 02:16:06 PM
I think Axl circa 91-93 was THE ultimate rock star. It was as if He had perfected every idea of what he wanted to be onstage and brought it to life.  The running around, The scissor kicks, the spinning around.  The amount of energy he put into every 3 & a half hours on that huge Illusions tour ... i haven't seen anything like it!   

No one can keep that going forever and he still has huge presence and magnatisum.  He still sounds and looks awsome so he's definatly Number 1 for me personally.

I think both Scott Weiland and Mike Patton are great front men also.