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Slash's "I'll jam with anybody" tour continues.  This time its the Black Eyed Peas. 

"the Peas performed a hit-packed set, featuring surprise guests like Slash ? who let loose a wailing solo on "Let's Get It Started" ?"

http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1552085/20070209/furtado_nelly.jhtml

I really wish he'd show a little more discretion.  His legacy is pretty much cemented due to his GNR days, but all of these cameos with questionable artists (the American Idol guy, Paulina Rubio, etc) cause his credibility to crumble a bit more each time.

I dont see a problem with him doing it, he clearly enjoys it, and it gets people who wouldnt have normally heard him to hear him n get into him and gnr. Nothing wrong with it n i love watching them : ok:

He's having fun.. How does it hurt his credibility? He is a very talented and famous guitarist and he gets offers and why not take them up? I never understand why fans care about shit like this or if someone "sells out". Enjoy the music and live your own life.

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Hey man, I kinda see where you come from.
I wish Slash was jamming with Aerosmith, AC/DC, Rolling Stones and, of course, Izzy, Duff, Axl & Steven.
But it is better to play with a monkey than not to play at all. Hey, Slash has a band. Slash records stuff. Slash releases stuff. And Slash goes on tour to play it! What is wrong if he plays some stuff you don't like with bands you don't like in the meantime? Let the guy be. Let he do his thing.

I wish every musician was so much into playing as Slash is.
I wish Axl & Izzy, for example, could jam as much as Slash does.
Because I'd rather see/listen to these guys jamming with monkeys than not to see/listen to them at all.

Luciano
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I think it's been great Slash jams a lot, is into a lot of projects-I love Eddie Van Halen also, and you wish he would play more, jam more, even if it's not Van Halen-I'm getting older, and see nothing wrong with Slash, or even Dizzy, Tommy taking on different projects, jamming with different bands.

Quote from a Dizzy Reed interview:



http://www.glam-metal.com/dizzyreed2.html


So case closed, it proves that Black Eyed Peas is ultra cool since Dizzy, a curren GN'R member likes them.  :rofl:

why doesnt slash collaborate with rock artists, the place where hes wanted, and needed the most?

I've wondered that myself. Maybe the money's better on the mtv side of the business...

I'd love to hear Slash do a collaboration with Christina Aguilera
Maybe he'll show up at Madison Square Garden march 23rd

The guy likes to play guitar at any opportunity he gets. Good for him I say. It's not like you'd turn it down either if they offered you a big wad of cash.

not a blacked eye peas fan but hey all the power to him

if he wants to play its his right 8)

Slash likes contributing to the world of music. Thats what most musicians/artists do, they contribute. Unlike someone else whose name escapes me........

 :hihi:  Great answer!

 I think Slash just likes to play for the sake of playing.  Who cares? 

I care, and that should count for alot :rant:


Nah, he can do what he wants, but I can't say I like it. :smoking:

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AND, maybe you guys don't know, but Slash jams A LOT with rock acts.
Some of the guys he has jammed with:
Zakk Wylde, Ronnie Wood, Steve Jones, Steven Tyler, Ozzy, Lemmy, Ace Frehley, and the list goes ON.

Look how proud Slash is from jamming with some of people he admires:

Slash On All Star Grammy Performance

We caught up with Slash during his induction into Hollywood's Rockwalk to discuss what that Grammy performance meant to his distinguished career.

"Yeah, well that's another thing sort of like getting your hands in the cement here. Going up there and working with Alicia Keys and Stevie Wonder and Steve Tyler and Brian Wilson. That was major, and we all got together in a dressing room and went through the song and all got up there and basically just winged it. That's something you can look back and go, 'I did that.' You build up a bit of a relationship with people that you respect in the business. It's sort of working up the ladder as a musician sort of a status place where you can actually rub elbows with people that you admire and that you respect and that you grew up listening to. Things like that are priceless."

Luciano
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He hasnt jammed with those guys since late 80s early 90s though when rock was still in.

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Kid, you are so wrong:

Slash jams with Zakk Wylde in 1994: http://youtube.com/watch?v=971-o81-BMs
Slash jams with Ron Wood in 2001: http://youtube.com/watch?v=96fyXjxlpIY
Slash jams with Steven Tyler in 2002: http://youtube.com/watch?v=j6SL5VR934I
Slash plays in the "Tears in Heaven" Tsunami relief video in 2005. Some other people that recorded their voices and music on the video are Elton John, Rod Stewart, Steven Tyler, Ozzy, and many artists I don't know: http://youtube.com/watch?v=IlI6S8B1Qhg
Slash plays with the Experience in 2005: http://youtube.com/watch?v=QJuKNeDS2NE
Slash plays In My Life with ozzy in 2005: http://youtube.com/watch?v=oUYWBgd1tpQ
Slash jams with Bono, Steve Wonder, Norah Jones, Brian Wilson, Alicia Keys, Billy Joel Armstrong, Steven Tyler and some guy I don't know in 2005: http://youtube.com/watch?v=NxSgCUBVmdQ
Slash jams with Ace Frehley, Rob Zombie, Scott Ian, Gilby Clark and Tommy Lee in 2006: http://youtube.com/watch?v=zLBvrqC1v3E
Slash and Billy Idol play as guests on Derek Sherinian's cover of "In the Summertime" in 2006: http://youtube.com/watch?v=l8ilbDwkooA
Slash jams with Steve Jones, Chris Robinson and Jet in 2006: http://youtube.com/watch?v=5nQ4ykSiIyc
Slash jams with Perry Farrell, Chester Bennington, Ray Manzarek and Robby Krieger in 2006: http://youtube.com/watch?v=aYreBTp97gQ (http://www.rollingstone.com/rockdaily/index.php/2006/11/09/last-night-in-la-strange-daze/)

Just type Slash and Camp Freddy on youtube and you can find many more Slash jams.

Also, you can find this info on the "History" section of THIS VERY SITE:

June 26th, 1994 - Slash plays at the Night Of 100 Guitars in London, England. Slash and Pride & Glory performs the Jimi Hendrix classic "Voodoo Chile (Slight Return)". Slash also joins Paul Rodgers for a version of "The Hunter".

August, 1994 - Slash joins Paul Rodgers onstage at the Woodstock 94 festival. They perform "I Don't Live Today" (which they actually recorded in 1993 for the "Stone Free" Jimi Hendrix tribute album), "Bad Company", "The Hunter" and "Alright Now".

May, 1996 - Slash performs at James Brown's 63rd birthday concert in Augusta, GA along with Isaac Hayes and Bootsy Collins.

August 28th, 1999 - Slash joins Cheap Trick onstage at their 25 anniversary concert in Rockford, IL. He plays on "You''re All Talk". The concert was released as a Cheap Trick CD/DVD entitled "Silver" in 2001.

December 8th, 2001 - Slash plays at Ronnie Wood's show at the Vicar Street in Dublin, Ireland. They also play two shows in London, England. On the 11th at the Sheperd's Bush Empire and on the 12th at the CC Club.

April 29th, 2002 - Slash, Duff and Matt played together with Buckcherry singer Josh Todd and guitarist Keith Nelson at the Randy Castillo Tribute in Los Angeles. They were joined by Cypress Hill's Sen Dog on "Paradise City" and Steven Tyler on Aerosmith hit "Mama Kin" at the tail end of a set.

September 21st, 2003 - Izzy and Slash joined Adler's Appetite at their show in Hollywood, CA. They played Mr. Brownstone, Knockin' On Heaven's Door and Paradise City with the band.

November 16th, 2005 - Slash performs "Hey Joe" with Steve Winwood, Mitch Mitchell and Billy Cox at the UK Music Hall of Fame ceremony in London, UK.

PS: By no means this is a complete list of Slash Jams...

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There is a lot going on out there, kid. If you don't know what you are talking about, it is better to keep quiet. Otherwise it will be obvious that you are clueless and that you only know about stuff that is on MTV something like that.

Maybe I shouldn't spend my time looking for all these Slash jams just to show them to you. But I think you kinda deserve it. You are in a GN'R forum, you like GNR, so you have good taste - I got to give you that. Just a request: open your eyes and please think twice before talking about stuff you don't know about.

Luciano
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i was actually more referencing to actual studio songs....

the tears in heaven thing i dont include.

and the in the summertime thing was a joke....i was very dissapointed.

we're all fans of gnr and its members in someway here, no need to be patronising, cocky, or a genuine asshole when it really is not needed.

Hey man thanks a lot for posting those links, i've hadn't seen most of them and they really kicked ass.

Yeah, there was some awesome stuff there! : ok:

Could be worse, He could Butcher  a shit load of riffs, songs and solos that other people wrote and then top all that off by playing a Christina Aguilera song............................

Very funny post.... :beer:

But you have to remember that those guys are allowed to do that bcause they are more GNR than Slash ever was.

excuse me?
Ignoring the post you were replying to (which was flame-bait by itself), what in fucks name do you mean by that?

Sorry mate, it was a joke highlighting the attitude of, it seems, 80% of the posters on these threads.....

Those that seem to think that Slash is the biggest douche that ever lived and isnt allowed to play his guitar in other peoples songs.

Slash can do whatever he likes, he is Slash after all.

No need to apologize, it's me who has to be sorry for not seeing the cynicism in your post. It's getting increasingly harder for me to differentiate between the ignorant and the sarcastic on this forum. In a normal context I would've gotten your drift, but considering some of the other replies in this thread...

Lol, fair enough. I reckon though, unfortunately, that ignorance is far more frequent than sarcasm on these kinda threads. Its sad that these scrotes have to badmouth Slash and then praise the merits of for example, the presence of an Aguilera song in the setlist or Axl flaunting himself at fashion shows for Donatella Versace.

I guess that whatever Slash does isnt cool because hes not in Guns anymore. If Robin played on a 50 Cent record he'd be classed by some on here as the ghost of Hendrix and the spirit of clever marketing rolled into one. Its quite sad really....

People would only flame me cause the truth hurts.



I admit, I am not a big fan of Slash doing all this kind of stuff but at least he creates original compositions for the people he does collaborate with.

Exactly

First of all, Christina Aguilera didn't even write the song. It was written by one of Richard's good friends Linda Perry.

Secondly, it wasn't a fashion show, it was an awards show and the band was personally asked to be there by Donatella. Which is a great honor in itself.

I don't think anyone really gives a fuck...  The point is that if VR did those things they would be mocked...

Don't get me wrong, I agree with your sentiments.
I was only classifying your remark as flame-bait 'cause I know how certain people on here will react to it, and I'm sure you do as well, hence making it flame-bait. If Locomotive98's remark had been anything else but sarcasm, I would've understood him taking the bait, whilst not agreeing with his ideas. Turns out he was being sarcastic and this whole piece of tripe was unnecessary and stems from my misunderstanding.

 :rofl: Thanks for the info. Well then I'll change my quote to 'a song made famous by Christina Aguilera written by Linda Perry'. I guess all of his other solos though are 'solos played by Richard Fortus written and mad famous by Slash'.

As for the second point - How is being invited to do anything by Donatella Versace 'a great honor in itself'? I suppose having some idiots like the Trailer Park Boys piss about on stage is 'a great honour in itself also'.

I dont want to get into any arguments but Im sick of all this blind Slash hate. Go and stick on your nu-GNR albums buddy. Oh sorry there are none.

I dont see why its questionable.

The guy likes playing his guitar, he likes a lot of different music styles, and he has fun and gets paid expermenting from time to time in other people's creations.

If slash had never written a rock riff then maybe i'd find it questionable, but the guy wrote/co-wrote  a TON of riffs and solos that we all like - and thats not erased by dabling with some other tunes now and then.

Another thing, i might be alone in this, but i actually find the slash bashing on this board insulting to ROBIN. why? because it comes off as desperate and sour grapes. Robin is a talented player, that's why he is in GNR and not just some home musican like me. But it doesn't make him any better a player to mock slash or pretend that slash isn't also one of the more gifted musicans around. So thats why i find it insulting to not just Slash but also Robin, he doesn't need to be promoted by bagging another player, he can stand on his own riff-writing just fine it would seem (better, irs, twat etc) and i doubt he himself would attack slash.

While its natural that some of us have prefrences for either one of them, IMO the reality is that they are both gifted musicans, and for people to say that either is talentless is crazy.

I don't get how people can be so closed minded when it comes to who plays with who? It's their fucking careers!  And it's not like it's as if Slash has hit his 40's and is playing with whoever he can to get recognition.  He already has the recognition and praise from fans and his peers and heros. He has always had the same approach, you can see the guy just loves to play! 

Kravitz' "Always on the run" was the first time where it was like woww he can give a riff like that away? Now I'm not saying all the collaborations he has done have been my thing. But he blows the other act away every time. Blackstreets 'Fix'... that band and Lyrics were shit! But the music? Slash owned it,  Great guitar work on that song.  He has done so much work it's great to see him not waste his talent.

If he's already immitating Slash why not do an Aguilera song right? :smoking:


It doesn't matter who wrote it when the main association is what it is.

And since when did it become an honor to play for some extravagant designers sister? :rofl:

Slash has been called a workaholic. His  down time was when he got in trouble  with drugs and drinking. If you love to play, I see no problem  with him playing with whomever. It proves he is versatile  can get along with anyone.  ;) No basis to criticize him that  I can see.

What is the difference between Robin and a home guitarist?

Lets compare for example Me vs Robin Finck


I play chords...... He plays chords

I can solo....... He can solo

I write songs........ He writes songs




What is really the difference?


Monkey dont ever diss yourself for being a "HOME MUSICIAN"? U realize how many HOME MUSICIANS blow Signed musicians out of the water? Only difference is, they got some breaks.


IRS and TWAT Technically have no riffs. Better is basically a standard 3 power chord riff o rama which is highly overrated by people on these forums.

If it wasnt someone in GNR and u guys heard the Better riffs, I seriously doubt any of u would call it  great.

SLASH Jams With BLACK EYED PEAS In Hollywood; Photos Available - Feb. 12, 2007 
 
According to MTV.com, VELVET REVOLVER/ex-GUNS N' ROSES guitarist Slash jammed with the BLACK EYED PEAS on "Let's Get It Started" at Avalon in Hollywood, California on Thursday (Feb. 8). The BLACK EYED PEAS threw a benefit concert for their Peapod Foundation, which helps underprivileged children around the world. This year's effort raised funds for the band's Peapod Music and Arts Academy, an educational center that will serve foster children in inner-city L.A. Other guests included Wyclef Jean and John Legend. Check out pictures from Wire Image.

In other news, Slash recently met up with Grammy-nominated CCM rocker Sarah Kelly at his Hollywood's RockWalk induction ceremony, also attended by producer Mike Clink. It proved to be a reunion of sorts for Kelly, who recruited Clink to oversee her Grammy-nominated sophomore release ? "Where The Past Meets Today". Clink, in turn, introduced Slash to Kelly's music ? and he immediately jumped onboard to record two amazing guitar solos on the project, including "Still Breathing" and "Out Of Reach". Slash comments: "I was blown away by how much emotion and balls her voice had and how expressive it was? She has a sincerely pure presence in her voice."
 

this is the song he played on...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nTMua2lJ3eA

 :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Let's NOT!




They have taken part in several events over the years which are similar.

Everything from the Susan Holmes Fashion Show to playing at Hard Rock Cafe in NYC.


They're very good at promoting themselves that way.



/jarmo

I was actually looking around on youtube trying to find a Finck collaboration of any kind to use as a rebuttal to your arguably intelligent input, but I couldn't find any whatsoever... I wonder why no-one ever asks Finck to jam on a song with them... I guess he gets asked all the time but always refuses because of artistic integrity, right?

Ow, on an unrelated note, I did stumble on this: http://youtube.com/watch?v=0snm8Jj5OUQ

Maybe I should rephrase that to say "when they do such things they are mocked"....

isn't there a video out there of Marilyn Manson sucking Robin off onstage?

EDIT: Actually I know there is because I have seen it...

what does Robin Finck have to do with this thread.   

back on topic.  Slash and the Black Eyed Pees.  : ok:

Well, I find their talk of "dangerous rock n' roll" a few years ago and all the promotion a bit amusing.

If you're calling yourself dangerous but doing basically everything most popular bands do, aren't you pretty mainstream then?

Aerosmith doesn't go around talking about being dangerous do they?


That's just me.





/jarmo

whats finck have to do with this?   did you watch the video?   Can't you just picture Slash boppin around on stage to that song?  :rofl:   watch the whole clip now.

I seriously hope he was in this cuz he was porking that girlie in the band or something.   

He's been doing some pretty embarassing gigs as of late.  Nothing new, but it seems to have gotten worse.    I still remember the way it made me cringe the first time I saw him playing with Micheal Jackson.  :no:

The show was a "benefit concert for their Peapod Foundation, which helps underprivileged children around the world"...  How can you knock that?  And I did see pics and Slash looked cool.

Black Eyed Peas do suck so I can't really defend Slash on that one but at least it was for a good cause........... :nervous:




My problem with GNR though is, Before 2002 there was such a mystique and curiosity and it was almost like a tall tale legend.

I feel Axl playing at birthday parties and this and that kind of ruins that toturted, recluse great legend of an image he had before 2002.

The more he does typical rock star things like party in clubs, play at celebrities birthday parties, fights with Tommy Hilfiger, it just kind of makes the 10 year legend he built up go to waste cause it puts a cloud over the mystique and intrigue abd turns him into a caricature and a paris hilton type celebrity instead of one of the greatest frontmen ever.


Slash has always done goofy shit like this so i can overlook it more i guess which doesnt make it right but that is just how i see it.




To my last post.

I am not saying that I am a better guitarist than Robin Finck its just people put way too much significance on certain things.? Chords are chords, riffs are riffs, solos are solos and I am unsigned but STILL have written exactly the same amount of hit songs that he has............ ZERO! : ok:

i found him highly laughable in his, as you put "mysterious" era. Im glad hes actually out there doing something again, instead of looking like an idiot with hip hop clothes not doing anything at all, wasting his talent and voice away.

Yeah but he is this mythical figure, almost a tall tale and had he came back in 2002 in shape, lookin cool, release an amazing album and kicks ass at MTV 2002, he is the big gest star on the planet right  now.


He has the perfect opportunity to make one of the most amazing comebacks in music history and now all that is gone.


He will still make a great comeback with CD but everything was set up so perfectly.

I think everyone takes all of this too seriously. Let Slash play where he wants and  to do what he wants. He's a rock icon, he has the right and has earned it. And if he plays benefits for good causes, then good for him. There should be MORE rockers ready to "sacrifice" their  reputations to raise money for good causes.

Enough of the Axl/Finck/GNR talk, wrong forum.

Back on topic please.

Allright, step by step...

Nothing, it was just a feeble attempt of me at an analogy. You see, I thought if I showed you something a guitarist you like did that I find embarrassing, I might be able to convince you that the emoticon overload inducing reply you posted earlier in this thread might not have been the right thing to post.

I actually know the song, it's been quite the hit here in Belgium. It was on the radio quite a lot and never felt the need to turn it off. I like the song more than here solo endeavors, that's for sure!

No I can't, so I'd love to see footage of him doing so, I'm quite curious now...

Even though I don't like the song (and if I can read between the lines, neither do you, right?), I couldn't care less.
You see, there's another Finck analogy I would like to share: I hate NIN, I truly do. I think they're the worst thing that has ever happened to rock music. There's really no words to express how much I dislike them. Yet, on the other hand, I like what Finck does in GNR (well, his songwriting skills anyway), so I'm willing to judge him on that. In a similar vain, Slash can do what the fuck he wants, as long as he kicks ass in VR; which, as far as I'm concerned, he does.

I agree with you there, but thats 'cause I don't believe MJ was innocent and is totally different story. You don't associate with child molesters in my book. So all I can do is hope Slash does believe in his innocence, which I'm sure is the case.

So you see, what might look like random robin bashing is actually nothing more than a way to try and make you see my point more clearly. And hence, it is also very much on topic.

Hope this helps, and if you have any more questions, please don't hesitate to ask...

So people are now mocking Slash for doing a charity thing (albeit with The Black Eyed Peas)? Wow, nice one, you people are class. Do you tease people in wheelchairs as well?

Sure, the Peas are the absolute depths of the musical barrel but knocking someone for doing something for a good cause is quite amazing.

Slash can play with who he wants and do what he wants, his legacy and VR are enough to cement that. Its could to see a musician with the ability to get things done.

Some bands cant even get it together to release a commercial.

One of his best collaberations ever, so really don't know what you're on about....

Slash doesn't seem to care about his "legacy" or what people will think if he is "playing with this guy or that band"  on a one-off basis. And that is the way it should be. If he did not want to do it, he wouldn't.

 I think "  Give In To Me" is an awesome song..the only michael Jackson song I can say i like :hihi: power to slash for playin for a good cause :peace: ...even though it's with the pea's lol my sister likes them  haha theyre no good :-X

I think the fact that Slash had 3 solo's voted in the top 20 of all time in rock n roll pretty much cements his legacy; not like he thought he'd have one when he 1st joined GnR 22 yrs ago :beer:

The fact that so many diverse artists want Slash to play on their songs say's quite a bit about the guy's appeal to diverse musical artists :peace:

I love Slash...He plays with alot of people. He enjoys it what gives.

  I do want to say that the Black Eyed Peas  suck so fuckin' bad. I can't believe it. I saw footage of them here in Brazil and I thought Oh my god what a pile of shit...but I went on and thought could of been a bad gig. Then I saw them on Live 8 they were worse. Fuck em, I got no time for that shit.

 I wnated to open a thread in Bad Obession about that Disgrace of a song Fergelicious WHAT THE HELL IS THAT? worse part is it'll go #1 if it didn't already with all the rest of that shit on the Charts. 

I see no big deal , he's already proved himself a million times over and it's not like he's still in guns n roses .. That would be like paul mcartney doing something different would it hurt the beatle's legend,.. It usually sucks when people change their style using the band's name..

It's embarrassing to play guitar while some drugged out fool repeatedly smashes a microphone into your back? What kind of moronic world do you live in?

Exactly ... if you wanna stay on top, you gotta promote ... I'm hoping Axl does promote the band ... and sure, I might not like Donnatella Versace, but fuck ... it's not like they're playing saturday morning kids shows or miming on top of the pops... both GnR and VR are real bands ... Slash can jam with who the fuck he wants... Hell, this whole argument about who is questionable etc is ludicrous... for years Axl wore football jerseys like a gangsta rapper, and while we all slagged it off, it was HIS choice, and it didn't affect his career.

Let's stop these arguments... the topic name of this thread was designed to start an argument, not a discussion.  The simple wording of it was antagonistic.  I wish all this crappy rivalry would stop.  :(