Here Today... Gone To Hell!

http://idolator.com/tunes/axl-rose/axl-rose-prepares-to-plunge-back-into-the-musicvideo-world-234674.php

Yesterday, we asked if anybody had heard anything about Chinese Democracy, which is supposedly due out in less than a month. One tipster sent this mini-update:

I can definitely tell you that a completed, fully mastered (not the patchy internet version thats been floating around for awhile) track of "Better" is being sent around to various directors to write for a music video. No real idea on when its looking to be shot but definitely very soon. The song btw, is actually pretty fantastic.


Hmmm. We'll believe it when we see it, but we have some words of warning for any director hoping to work with Axl: Don't look him in the eye, don't ask him when the record's coming out, and by all means, don't tell him that there's not enough money in the budget for a dolphin-wrangler.

Great news if true. I always thought it would be first single/video.....

But here's the thing: Would they really send it to a bunch of different directors? And this person would have to be really on the inside to know that, so who knows......

haha dolphin wrangler

who's the guy saying this?

I'll believe it when I see it.....I really just want to hear the album.....anything else would be a bonus to me...video, tour, single...whatever the fuck....I want hear the album. ?:peace:

doubt it.
anybody could have replied to their inquiry.

Perhaps some emails to the appropriate directors could clear some things up.

If its true we'll have a new leak on our hands  : ok:

OMG... Amazing.. My Happy Birthda Is 19 / February... Excelnte NEWS.. My Surprise...

thankz, thanzk.. GNR Love You FOR _> EVER !!

* BETTER * The new Himn Of Rock !!!

hbk *

If you remember there was a thing said by someone in some open letter on December 15th, which I'm not allowed to quote, about not getting money for a video from the label until the record had been turned in.

You Says.. LEAVE ME ALONE (Instrumental) ??

hbk *

The only reason I ever turn on the radio anymore is to see if, maybe, today is the day they will say "New music, Guns N' Roses: Better."

Please oh please be a normal looking mainstream video.

I'm sure 200 dancing girls in bikinis and a bunch of negros with goldchains and armani hoods is exactly what Axl has in mind.

Let us pray.

This is great news if it's true.

If the record was turned over to the label, we should be hearing something very "soon".

 : ok: :yes: :peace: :beer:

At least the album would sell.

Axl has to drop it like it's hot.

thats just lame man, perhaps u should stop watching so much mainstream crap

oh come on, i'm sure jackamo meant a normal video not an "estranged" kind of thing

Hmm. ?Now it becomes a battle between this thread and the "Madagascar is the first video" thread. ?Me? ?My money's on "Better." ?Here's to a completed album and video on the way...

They should film the video in the same place they did Sweet Child O' Mine, and have exactly the same camera angles and clips.

Exactly.

I don't even like today's radio- or the current music videos on TV.

But that's whats needed to get airplay- and sell albums these days.

I want Chi D to sell as much as possible.

Because that's the way it works. They'll send the song off to different production companies and the directors will write a treatment and send them back to the band to see which one they want.

That is not what's needed to get airplay. Boobs and bling are just substitutes for the horrible music. If the music is good you can pretty much put whatever you want in the video.

Frankly, I'm surprised, if it's true, that Axl sees a need to put out a music video. Videos these days are secondary on both MTV and VH1, and other networks like Much Music and Fuse aren't available on a lot of cable systems. Why bother? Leave the videos to shit bands like Nickelback.

No offense, but why, exactly? ?I'd think the *last* thing the current lineup would want to do is evoke memories or images of the previous members. ?Besides, the first single - presumably Better - will be a wake-up call to the world, introducing (and re-introducing) the band to many, many fans. ?There's simply no need to retread anything that has been done before.

Out of curiosity, what were the Suicide Girls for?

Just because videos aren't as important as they once were doesn't mean they're not necessary. If you don't have a video radio becomes your only option. That's millions of potential consumers down the drain.

There will be a video, there should be a video.

nothing that has anything to do with this thread ::)

To invoke sexual thoughts and increase decreasing ticket sales. Understandable, but unwarranted by me.

My point still stands.

in any case i highly doubt the channels here in canada (much music, much more music) will play a single new GNR video (i know they play the old ones and gnr profile 24/7 but i just dont see new gnr being on this channel).  they are too hard rock for muchmoremusic and not young and emo enough for muchmusic.  MAYBE they will get put on muchmoremusic, but i doubt it

Why are they bothering with a music video- who do they expect to play it?

My point EXACTLY.

At the top of my head, all the top 10/20/50/100 shows that air in every industrial country.

well i can tell you that i never listen to the radio so videos are almost the only way i found out what songs are released as singles and stuff like that, the music channels will play it, at least in europe, nowadays mtv is not as it was back then but wtf, i want a new video,

btw, all other bands/artists make videos so why shouldn't gnr, it'll help 'em get more mainstream again, and mainstream is what sells record and that's how to make money, and people will recognize the new bands, there really are more positive things then negatives when it comes to making a video

The internet.

 :rofl: yeah...


Example:

Meat Loaf released on a nice looking video, decent song, featuring a very attractive female.
But.
I only seen it on TV twice.

Then it disapeared.

Too busy playing "Sexyback" these days to care about comebacks.

Why do people not want a GNR video? That's dumb.

You Tube - Internet in general - VH1 + Top 20 coutdown - Fuse - MTV2 - DVD's...

I don't want feelings hurt when GNR do terrible on the charts. :'(

honestly, even if it doesn't get a ton of air time, i still wanna see what they come up with to visually represent their music.

Now-that is a reputable looking website....no gossipy bullshit there. ::) :rofl: Desperado, why don't you come to your senses...... ;D

True, but think of this:  GNR vs Meat Loaf.  I think things would be different for Guns.

I dont know what its like there in the states,but here in Australia, especially on weekends, theres a show called Video Hits, that runs for about 6+ hours, showing music videos on a friday- early morning saturday.

Im sure Axl will put out a video , and I really want one. Like a person above me said,
shit bands like Nickleback put out videos, but you have to think, Gnr has to capture as much demographic audience they can, whether its emo lovers,
nickleback lovers, whatever, and a Video is the way to do it, especially with the youtube boom...

It would be stupid not to put out one.

Exactly.. Everyone acts like because MTV dosnt show videos anymore, that videos are worthless... If the new video gets on the front page of youtube, watch out!!

To me, it's not dumb at all.

Why do I want a music video?  First off, to see my heroes again.  To know that they're back, and so that others know they're back.  To see them in the mainstream media again, announcing it to as many people as they can reach.

But in the grand scheme of things, I really don't care so much about the video itself.  What I care about it that a video would be an official sign of things to come.  A video means a single.  A single means an album.  Pretty simple if you ask me.

Guns are just a little bit more ahead of Loaf in terms of mainstream popularity.

When- a band like the Chilli Peppers had "Dani California" which did very well.

But that's because the Peppers are ahead of GNR.

MeatLoaf rocks, but Bat III wasnt as good as I hoped.  But I am totally psyched about this news, I love better, and it would be the obvious choice for the first single and song.

:lmao: i thought that was funny

i think this is cool because all the things that were spost to be happening allready are just getting started :P

one step at a time i guess : ok:

If this is true..cool. But i would have thought or at least hoped that a video would have been done by now, particularly considering the march 6 date. Surely the single should be wrapped up and ready to go? i mean it was on the harley add.

Axl's kept good relations with MTV over the years, so a video makes sense to me.  It's a great way to reach a new market and to say, "Hey, by the way, here's what rock n' roll sounds like, since it's been missing during your lifetime."

I can't wait.  :yes:

Thats all i can say, any music video would pwn.

Good point...
MTV still has the VMAs... And to be nominated you need a video(I know VMAs, suck and are poppy, but people eat it up)... If GNR could take a few moon men away, a video would pay for itself 100 times over

Yeah.  Just ask Jameraqui.

man if we can think of things like this imagine what Axl has already thought of. :yes:

I watched , let me rephrase that, SUFFERED throught that Goddamn show just because i thought Axl was going to announce the release date for CHINESE DEMOCRACY ::) ..........ohh yeah i was pissed.............but quickly got over it :beer:

Until I hear it from Axl, I don't care what the source is, it ain't true

They do need a video. Videos still have great impact in the world's music. See Red Hot Chili Peppers...They are the most known rock n' roll band nowadays. And when I ask a non fan about rock n' roll I hear: "Oh, Red Hot are good. This video for Dani California was pretty cool." And when I ask them about Guns most of them say: "I like November Rain. What a video..."

hope it's true

Traveling Without Moving sold over 1.2 million copies.  I wonder if that had anything to do with a video that everyone knew about...

Usually its not a secret when bands are recording videos, its not uncommon to see at the official sites of other bands topics like "Right now we are doing a video shot for bla bla" or something. I dont think they would try to keep it secret, I dont get the point of that besides if its going to be a surprise for all the fans.

I do not understand why a video would seem a bad thing or undesirable to some fans.  ????

We're fans, we want them to make stuff, and a video is part of that. Remember the video they made for WTTJ Live Era - i loved that!

That said this rumor has no credibility. But that doesn't change the fact that a video for the first single is a no brainer, and i think Axl will want a video and everything else, as he said that he feels this album deserves proper promotion.
I mean come on. They didn't work this hard this long on CD to half-ass any of it now.

Did I just see 'usually' being used in the context of Axl Rose?

If anyone should find a reason to keep a video shoot secret it's him.

Of course it should be a video for the first single. It will be one for sure. Otherwise the common audience wont get to know the "new" members.

I can imagine everyone's disappointment if they do a Tool and don't appear in the video at all. :rofl:

I agree, videos suck.  gnr doesn't need to play this silly kids game to sell records.

but if they do make a video, it should look like this:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=LMe1dl3mGHQ

No spam , Thank you

"no spam"?  WTF are you talking about.  go away.

I don't think they "need to play this silly kids game."  In fact, I want them to CHANGE the game, and make those silly kids realize that there's GOOD music out there, and it doesn't have anything to do with being an heiress, having two toned emo hair, or simultaneously flashing your vag and c-section scar.  If GNR can release quality music that ALSO reaches the masses of musically deprived teens, then I'm all for it. 

i dont think better is strong enough for a single. irs is better than better  :-\ but even still my guess is that an unknown 'big gun' song to be the first single and video. or maybe the title track if it's gonna be a song weve heard.

Better is far more popular than IRS, and was played more often by the band itself.

I'll 2nd that fucker.....I.R.S is a strong track but "Better" is an excellent track with an entirely new sound and structure of a song....Pay attention!!!...But if you like IRS better.....to each their own..... :peace:

pfft i dont think so!

i thought axl said "right now were playin' new songs that we probably aren't going to release a single for"?

He said that in 2002.  They weren't playing Better in 2002.

oh my bad

We will see if i is true.....