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Title: Setlist after Chinese Democracy [speculation]
Post by: EFISH on February 05, 2007, 07:55:22 PM
Just thought we could do something like this while we wait for the announcement.  :P

So what do you guys think about the setlist after Chinese Democracy is released?

I think it will change ALOT. I think they will start off maybe playing half of the record, and then over time add more new songs in there. They will probably play about 8 old songs a night, compared to the usual 13 or 14 or whatever they did in '06. They will probably alternate with the old songs they played in '06 every night.

What do you guys think?


Title: Re: Setlist after Chinese Democracy [speculation]
Post by: Axlfreek on February 05, 2007, 07:57:46 PM
I think a majority of the setlist will contain appetite songs, a couple UYI songs like in 06. but i think there will be a lot of CD songs in the setlist as well.


Title: Re: Setlist after Chinese Democracy [speculation]
Post by: Loaded NightraiN on February 05, 2007, 07:59:21 PM
I agree with you e-fish... It'll slowly lean towards more new material, the longer the album is out...


Title: Re: Setlist after Chinese Democracy [speculation]
Post by: Krispy Kreme on February 05, 2007, 09:36:15 PM
Probably not a big change right away, he may work in a new song here and there until there is a critical mass and in about a  year-18 months the show  will be 50/50 old and new. But he can't come out and start playing mostly songs  no one  has heard  of right off.


Title: Re: Setlist after Chinese Democracy [speculation]
Post by: Bow-Chicka-Bow-Wow on February 05, 2007, 09:50:16 PM
Probably not a big change right away, he may work in a new song here and there until there is a critical mass and in about a? year-18 months the show? will be 50/50 old and new. But he can't come out and start playing mostly songs? no one? has heard? of right off.

But the question pertains to after the CD release.? I think at that point people who are at the concerts will be quite familiar with the new material. I expect a pretty formidable change. :yes:? By the way...Good point to ponder, Efish. : ok:


Title: Re: Setlist after Chinese Democracy [speculation]
Post by: EFISH on February 05, 2007, 09:57:58 PM
Probably not a big change right away, he may work in a new song here and there until there is a critical mass and in about a  year-18 months the show  will be 50/50 old and new. But he can't come out and start playing mostly songs  no one  has heard  of right off.

Well when the CD is released, 95 percent of people going to the shows will have the album, therefore know the new songs.

They've had there run playing the majority of old songs and some new, but I think after the release they should flip it around.  : ok:


Title: Re: Setlist after Chinese Democracy [speculation]
Post by: slash666 on February 05, 2007, 10:01:06 PM
Probably not a big change right away, he may work in a new song here and there until there is a critical mass and in about a? year-18 months the show? will be 50/50 old and new. But he can't come out and start playing mostly songs? no one? has heard? of right off.

Well when the CD is released, 95 percent of people going to the shows will have the album, therefore know the new songs.

They've had there run playing the majority of old songs and some new, but I think after the release they should flip it around.? : ok:

nope, alot of people attending don't know any of the new songs. aka on the UK Tour there were alot there just because they knew Sweet Child of Mine


Title: Re: Setlist after Chinese Democracy [speculation]
Post by: EFISH on February 05, 2007, 10:02:41 PM
Probably not a big change right away, he may work in a new song here and there until there is a critical mass and in about a  year-18 months the show  will be 50/50 old and new. But he can't come out and start playing mostly songs  no one  has heard  of right off.

Well when the CD is released, 95 percent of people going to the shows will have the album, therefore know the new songs.

They've had there run playing the majority of old songs and some new, but I think after the release they should flip it around.  : ok:

nope, alot of people attending don't know any of the new songs. aka on the UK Tour there were alot there just because they knew Sweet Child of Mine

I said AFTER THE CD IS RELEASED. Of course almost nobody knows the new songs NOW.

Big difference.  : ok:


Title: Re: Setlist after Chinese Democracy [speculation]
Post by: slash666 on February 05, 2007, 10:04:25 PM
Probably not a big change right away, he may work in a new song here and there until there is a critical mass and in about a? year-18 months the show? will be 50/50 old and new. But he can't come out and start playing mostly songs? no one? has heard? of right off.

Well when the CD is released, 95 percent of people going to the shows will have the album, therefore know the new songs.

They've had there run playing the majority of old songs and some new, but I think after the release they should flip it around.? : ok:

nope, alot of people attending don't know any of the new songs. aka on the UK Tour there were alot there just because they knew Sweet Child of Mine

I said AFTER THE CD IS RELEASED. Of course almost nobody knows the new songs NOW.

Big difference.? : ok:

I still think it would be like it is now


Title: Re: Setlist after Chinese Democracy [speculation]
Post by: TrixAreForKids on February 05, 2007, 10:33:40 PM
I could use some civil war, pretty tied up, and don't damn me. That would be sweeeeet.


Title: Re: Setlist after Chinese Democracy [speculation]
Post by: Geck on February 05, 2007, 10:48:25 PM
I keep thinking of how amazing CITR would be live. Who would do the solo?


Title: Re: Setlist after Chinese Democracy [speculation]
Post by: Krispy Kreme on February 05, 2007, 10:51:15 PM
I keep thinking of how amazing CITR would be live. Who would do the solo?

It is a great song. But I bet it may be  one of the few songs that does not get played live. Just a feeling.
Not sure  it is a live-type  of song.


Title: Re: Setlist after Chinese Democracy [speculation]
Post by: HoldenCaulfield on February 05, 2007, 11:08:56 PM
I see the set having 8-10 songs off the album, some being rotated possibly. I think they'll cut out some of the Appetite stuff (Out ta Get Me, My Michelle) and I don't think they'll do KOHD as much, maybe every few shows or so. I think they might pull out some older covers like they did with 'Down on the Farm', mayde do 'Aint' It Fun', etc.


Title: Re: Setlist after Chinese Democracy [speculation]
Post by: Eclipsed107 on February 05, 2007, 11:23:10 PM
WTTJ
ISE
Brownstone
PC
SCOM
Patience
NR
YCBM
KOHD
L&LD

will be the only songs always on the set IMO.

I'd expect 8-10 new songs a night, and a 2-5 song mix between the songs already put on the set.


Title: Re: Setlist after Chinese Democracy [speculation]
Post by: gunns1 on February 06, 2007, 05:19:25 AM
WTTJ
ISE
Brownstone
PC
SCOM
Patience
NR
YCBM
KOHD
L&LD

will be the only songs always on the set IMO.

I'd expect 8-10 new songs a night, and a 2-5 song mix between the songs already put on the set.

I bloody hope not, theres no Nightrain on that list, swap ISE with Nightrain. then you would have a good setlist


Title: Re: Setlist after Chinese Democracy [speculation]
Post by: Jackamo! on February 06, 2007, 05:26:39 AM
S-S-S-Same.



Title: Re: Setlist after Chinese Democracy [speculation]
Post by: Spirit on February 06, 2007, 06:32:07 AM
My guess would be that WTTJ and PC are the only "sure things". The rest will be shuffled around.


Title: Re: Setlist after Chinese Democracy [speculation]
Post by: gandra on February 06, 2007, 06:41:22 AM
without this songs i can not imagine gnr show

wttj
nighttrain
it's so easy
mr browstone
scom
paradise city
november rain
you could be mine

+ new songs and 2-3 old songs is gnr show after cd


Title: Re: Setlist after Chinese Democracy [speculation]
Post by: rds.06 on February 06, 2007, 07:10:10 AM
without this songs i can not imagine gnr show

wttj
nighttrain
it's so easy
mr browstone
scom
paradise city
november rain
you could be mine

+LALD + Patience, i think all those songs will remain and maybe KOHD, they might rotate a few others like, my michelle, rocket queen, etc and hopefully a few more from UYI, with 7-8 new songs on there.  8)


Title: Re: Setlist after Chinese Democracy [speculation]
Post by: sic. on February 06, 2007, 07:22:37 AM
A lot depends on the rockers on CD. Regardless, I guess we'll be having WTTJ and PC during the shows, probably SCOM as well. Nightrain would likely hang in there, as would YCBM. November Rain might prove to be too long to go with each setlist, plus there might be a new ballad they'd want to throw in every now and then. Still, I agree with the previous poster that they'd probably rotate some AFD tracks to go with the flow every now and then.

ISO, MrB, LALD and KOHD I would not miss.


Title: Re: Setlist after Chinese Democracy [speculation]
Post by: MrBrOwNsToNeR on February 06, 2007, 07:36:07 AM
Just thought we could do something like this while we wait for the announcement.  :P

So what do you guys think about the setlist after Chinese Democracy is released?

I think it will change ALOT. I think they will start off maybe playing half of the record, and then over time add more new songs in there. They will probably play about 8 old songs a night, compared to the usual 13 or 14 or whatever they did in '06. They will probably alternate with the old songs they played in '06 every night.

What do you guys think?

i dont think they will change anything.

maybe 1 or 2 more new songs and 1 or 2 old less... but the poeple is comming to hear the old ones first...


Title: Re: Setlist after Chinese Democracy [speculation]
Post by: Jim Bob on February 06, 2007, 07:54:18 AM
I think it will change a little bit, but not a whole lot.  A few more new songs, but a lot of classics too.   but its all speculation, you never know with Axl n GNR.  :beer:


Title: Re: Setlist after Chinese Democracy [speculation]
Post by: russtcb on February 06, 2007, 08:49:23 AM
I won't venture a "dream list" or anything as GNR would have to play for roughly 5 hours to comply with it.

Based on only songs I've heard, here's my guess/suggestion:




Intro Tape

Chinese Democracy
Live And Let Die
Mr. Brownstone
Dead Horse
You're Crazy (Lies Version)
IRS
Pretty Tied Up
Sweet Child O' Mine
Catcher In The Rye
Don't Cry
Rocket Queen
You Could Be Mine
Better
Knockin' On Heaven's Door
There Was A Time
Patience
November Rain
Madagascar
The Blues
Civil War
Nightrain


Encore:
Welcome To The Jungle
It's So Easy
Yesterdays
Estranged
Paradise City








Title: Re: Setlist after Chinese Democracy [speculation]
Post by: The New Fiona Apple on February 06, 2007, 04:44:04 PM
Uh oh...Jarmo's not gonna like that post.


Title: Re: Setlist after Chinese Democracy [speculation]
Post by: AxlsMainMan on February 06, 2007, 05:32:39 PM
Axl, add "Prostitute" and Ill die a happy man :)


Title: Re: Setlist after Chinese Democracy [speculation]
Post by: Tommie on February 06, 2007, 05:41:50 PM
I have a question for you guys, how would you feel if GnR eventually get to the point where they dont play the old songs, be it because they have ALOT of other hits, or some other reason.  Granted, if this ever does happen, it would be for many years.

-tommie


Title: Re: Setlist after Chinese Democracy [speculation]
Post by: Lord Kayoss on February 06, 2007, 05:45:54 PM
I wouldn't be suprised to see it remain mostly unchanged.


Title: Re: Setlist after Chinese Democracy [speculation]
Post by: floppyfish27 on February 06, 2007, 08:27:10 PM
I have a question for you guys, how would you feel if GnR eventually get to the point where they dont play the old songs, be it because they have ALOT of other hits, or some other reason.? Granted, if this ever does happen, it would be for many years.

-tommie

Well Tommie,  Can't name a band off the top of my head that doesn't play some old songs no matter how many albums they have out.. so... that just won't happen bud... I  can say I would not mind dropping a few for some more new songs or other songs that are not on their current set list from the past couple of tours....


Title: Re: Setlist after Chinese Democracy [speculation]
Post by: floppyfish27 on February 06, 2007, 08:28:27 PM
Axl, add "Prostitute" and Ill die a happy man :)

yeah... you hear the song "prostitute" yet?   

or was that a poor attempt at cracking a childish remark?     ;D


Title: Re: Setlist after Chinese Democracy [speculation]
Post by: Jupa on February 06, 2007, 08:31:23 PM
WTTJ
ISE
TWAT
Better
Think About You
Brownstone
L&LD
Civil War
Perfect Crime
SCOM
NR
Out Ta Get Me
Nightrain
Used To Love Her
YCBM
IRS
RQ
The Blues

Encores:
Chinese Democracy(Rotate with Madagascar)
Paradise City


Title: Re: Setlist after Chinese Democracy [speculation]
Post by: Zephyrus on February 06, 2007, 09:26:16 PM
There'll definitely be a couple more new songs added to the set on top of the new songs that are played already- perhaps a third of the setlist or so will consist of new songs. What I'm curious about is this whole three-album concept that is apparently going to happen. What will it be like when all three are released (or should that be IF  :P). How will so much new material fit into a show? Is it Axl's plan to gradually remove all the old GNR material and replace it with his new band's music?

Possible new setlist - a bit out of the norm  :):

Chinese Democracy (with that new intro could be potential show opener)
You Could Be Mine
Mr. Brownstone

-Axl says Good Evening-

Better
(new song)
The Blues
Rocket Queen
wttj
IRS
November Rain
It's So Easy
Civil War
(new song 2)
TWAT
Nightrain

-Encore-

Sweet Child O' Mine
Madagascar
Paradise City





Title: Re: Setlist after Chinese Democracy [speculation]
Post by: novemberparadise23 on February 06, 2007, 09:37:33 PM
chinese democracy
its so easy
better
out ta get me
the blues
mr brownstone
irs
november rain( its alright intro)
twat
rocket queen
new song ( preferbly hard rocking song)
sweet child ( sail away swet sister intro)
nightrain
catcher in the rye
my michelle
new song ( rocker)

encore

welcome to the jungle
madagascar
you could be mine
paradise city


good night :drool:



Title: Re: Setlist after Chinese Democracy [speculation]
Post by: Jackamo! on February 07, 2007, 03:26:49 PM
Welcome To The Jungle
It's So Easy
Perfect Crime
Mr. Brownstone
Live & Let Die
You Could Be Mine
Better
The Blues
Rocket Queen
Sweet Child O' Mine
Used To Love Her (W/ Izzy)
Double Talkin' Jive (W/ Izzy)
November Rain
Down On The Farm
My Michelle (W/ Baz)
Nice Boys (W/ Baz)
Madagascar
Nightrain
Out Ta Get Me
Oh My God
Silkworms
Think About You
Patience
Prostitute
IRS
Rhiad & The Bedhouins
Knockin' On Heaven's Door

ENCORE
Chinese Democracy
If This World
Don't Cry
Paradise City


Title: Re: Setlist after Chinese Democracy [speculation]
Post by: chriskon72 on February 07, 2007, 03:42:49 PM
Welcome To The Jungle
It's So Easy
Perfect Crime
Mr. Brownstone
Live & Let Die
You Could Be Mine
Better
The Blues
Rocket Queen
Sweet Child O' Mine
Used To Love Her (W/ Izzy)
Double Talkin' Jive (W/ Izzy)
November Rain
Down On The Farm
My Michelle (W/ Baz)
Nice Boys (W/ Baz)
Madagascar
Nightrain
Out Ta Get Me
Oh My God
Silkworms
Think About You
Patience
Prostitute
IRS
Rhiad & The Bedhouins
Knockin' On Heaven's Door

ENCORE
Chinese Democracy
If This World
Don't Cry
Paradise City

holy cow ! 31 songs you wanna him to blow his voice after 3 shows?


Title: Re: Setlist after Chinese Democracy [speculation]
Post by: Jackamo! on February 07, 2007, 04:09:29 PM
add 9 or 10 solos in between, he should do fine.


it would only take them like 6 hours to finish the set.




Title: Re: Setlist after Chinese Democracy [speculation]
Post by: Eclipsed107 on February 07, 2007, 04:44:36 PM
What's the point in even doing upcoming concerts if they're not going to do songs we haven't heard yet.  Once the album is released there better be at least 4-5 songs that we don't know of right now in every set.

AFD: Jungle, Easy, Brownstone, City, Child
Lies: Patience
UYI:  Rain, KOHD, L&LD, YCMB

That's 10 songs, add 8-10 (at least 4 we haven't heard yet) new songs a night and you have 18-20 songs,

You still have room for 2-4 other songs from the old days; Crazy, Used to Love Her, Nightrain, Think About You, UTLH, Rocket Queen, maybe something they haven't played on the last few tours.

If 20-22 songs is too much for Axl to handle then I want to see some of the older songs taken out (do we really need L&LD still?)  Once CD is released the concert has to be around 50% new material, and it has to be new material that hasn't been released yet.  We've been living with CD and The Blues for 6+ years now, let's hear something new.


Title: Re: Setlist after Chinese Democracy [speculation]
Post by: Lethalis on February 07, 2007, 05:10:01 PM
I'm expecting a real CD tour: mostly new material.

Consider all the effort to make this album, write these songs, etc. If they are really good, I think the band will be glad to play them instead of the old stuff and the public will be glad to hear them.

They can always put a SCOM or WTTJ in there for old time's sake..


Title: Re: Setlist after Chinese Democracy [speculation]
Post by: Communist China on February 07, 2007, 05:21:05 PM
Axl, add "Prostitute" and Ill die a happy man :)

yeah... you hear the song "prostitute" yet?? ?

or was that a poor attempt at cracking a childish remark?? ? ?;D

I think he was just expressing his desire to hear Prostitute. Don't know what you're trying to start.


Title: Re: Setlist after Chinese Democracy [speculation]
Post by: floppyfish27 on February 07, 2007, 05:40:34 PM
Axl, add "Prostitute" and Ill die a happy man :)

yeah... you hear the song "prostitute" yet?? ?

or was that a poor attempt at cracking a childish remark?? ? ?;D

I think he was just expressing his desire to hear Prostitute. Don't know what you're trying to start.

I wasn't attempting to start anything, hence the goofy smiley face at the end of my post..
I did ask him if he had heard the song yet, because to my knowledge it has not been leaked as yet. 
That was my question to him.....   nothing else..... is that more clear?


Title: Re: Setlist after Chinese Democracy [speculation]
Post by: Jackamo! on February 07, 2007, 05:57:47 PM
They should call it the "Appetite For Destruction World Tour"

And play mostly new songs.


Title: Re: Setlist after Chinese Democracy [speculation]
Post by: floppyfish27 on February 07, 2007, 06:03:53 PM
They should call it the "Appetite For Destruction World Tour"

And play mostly new songs.

That's pretty damn funny....


Title: Re: Setlist after Chinese Democracy [speculation]
Post by: russtcb on February 07, 2007, 07:20:09 PM
They should call it the "Appetite For Destruction World Tour"

And play mostly new songs.

That's pretty damn funny....


Hahaha... that would be funny as hell.

And maybe stop about 3/4 through each show and be like "What? You were expecting something else?"


Title: Re: Setlist after Chinese Democracy [speculation]
Post by: Donington2007 on February 11, 2007, 07:06:56 PM
Just thought we could do something like this while we wait for the announcement.  :P

So what do you guys think about the setlist after Chinese Democracy is released?

I think it will change ALOT. I think they will start off maybe playing half of the record, and then over time add more new songs in there. They will probably play about 8 old songs a night, compared to the usual 13 or 14 or whatever they did in '06. They will probably alternate with the old songs they played in '06 every night.

What do you guys think?

i think it will always be about majority public oppinion, which doesn't include most people here. i would expect 3 or 4 new songs in the beginning and more added as they 'hit' on the radio. majority public oppinion is all about catchy songs. that takes time so i wouldn't expect more than 3 or 4 new album songs in the beginning of the tour even if the album is already out. i recall seeing U2 about a month after a new album and they only played a couple of songs off that new album. but of course played Streets no name, with or without, real thing, mysterious ways, ect. etc. etc.


Title: Re: Setlist after Chinese Democracy [speculation]
Post by: bringbackadler on February 11, 2007, 10:57:25 PM
They should call it the "Appetite For Destruction World Tour"

And play mostly new songs.

No they shouldn't.   :no:


Title: Re: Setlist after Chinese Democracy [speculation]
Post by: mr.glavin on February 12, 2007, 11:47:10 AM
the setlist always opens with WTTJ , its so easy , mr brownstone , live nd let die.   At least shift it around a bit or open with nightrain like in the illusion tours.  i think though that they will have to keep the opening few songs oldies to warm up the crowd a bit


Title: Re: Setlist after Chinese Democracy [speculation]
Post by: ChrisPittman on February 12, 2007, 11:51:00 AM
Theyre more likely to drop UYI songs as opposed to AFD songs, it stands to reason for album sales sake. Plus, having said that, Ive always felt Axl wanted to get at least a year of touring under his belt before CD was released (allowing everyone a last chance - or for younger fans - a first chance to see the old songs live)