Here Today... Gone To Hell!

At yearzero.nin.com there are some hidden pictures with the album mixing in progress: img/28.html, img/39.html, img/12.html en img/07.html.

Add them: 28+39+12+07= 86

Now enter: yearzero.nin.com/img/86.html

Et Voil?, you get a page with the missing picture: albumcover.jpg

Yesterday there was a new link: img/19.html.

86+19=105

Enter: yearzero.nin.com/img/105.html

And you get another page with a missing picture titled: chinesedemocracy.jpg.

In one word: Hilarious. In 4 words: Trent's fucking with us.

Good work  : ok:

I, for one, find this funny lol. I don't think its a diss at all.

i don't get it,what trent have with gunsnroses new album?

I'm tryin but its not workin for me if someone could provide simple links or the pics themselves thatd be great  :peace:

haha thats really wierd.

Theres not pic to post, its just a blank area, if you right click and go properties it says the image is called ChineseDemocracy.jpeg!

Jonx

wow weird but cool!

OK thanks.

Fuk im confizzled,Whats the deal with Trent?

Haha.... he's just jealous that we got Robin and he doesn't.  :hihi: :hihi:

Yep.

I personally think it's time for ol' Trent to get the hell over it.

Trent admires gnr secretly.  :yes:

I think Trent is gay.

I get a red x. Can anyone post the pictures here?

i'm sure he has no any information about chinese democracy?

There are no pictures. We're talking about the name of those 'pics'. :)

man, you have too much time on your hands............

He's just having some fun.

you guys know that trent is suposed to be in good relations with Eagles of death metal?

Trent doesnt SECRETLY admire Guns N Roses...he and marilyn manson both said that Guns N roses were" the last great american rock band"..........

oh my flying gawd! does this mean there's a conspiracy going on!?

Trent hardly stays happy with anyone long. He also gets mad and forgives pretty much anyone.  I think he is as interested in the new album as anyone.  I mean Axl has always spoken positively about Trent from the beginning of NIN, its pretty obvious thats why he got Robin.  Trent messes around a lot although it could be anyone involved in NIN camp doing that.

I might be missing something, but I don't think Trent has ever badmouthed GNR and I don't see how what he's doing now is dissing Axl, as some suggested.

I think he's been critical of Finck latley.. He said some minor things when the last NIN album was out...

I guess these guys have too much time on their hands...

beyond doubt, will.


he sounded rather bitter about robin sticking to GNR.
I don't think he was all too serious then tho.


Yeah but we're talking about the present and trying to reason on his/their odd bits of behaviour towards gnr.
talking of the people with too much time on their hands..... :hihi:

I think Trent is doing the mixing and stuff for Chinese Democracy.  Just kidding.

Trent always does this stuff.  He has suffered from the same writers block/ delays that Axl has, but he and his people update that website often and do a lot of weird things to keep a buzz going and let their fans know that they are alive and working on music.  I really dont think hes bashing Finck I mean he didnt bash Cirque du Soleil when Robin went to do that.  He was probably mad that robin left, but I think he'll get over it although maybe hes upset that the new guitarist wont let trent sodomize him on stage with a microphone like trent used to do to robin.  i really think Trents just playing around and I bet hes looking forward to the album

Wasn't Robin only needed for the tours? I've understood the live band had a lot of downtime between tours, as Trent basically did the album work all by himself.

IIRC, Robin was with Cirque de Soleil between Self-Destruct and Fragility, and also managed to have a two-year stint with GNR during that period.

hes trying too tell us it isn't coming out

I would do anything short of a gay act for a co-headlining Summer '07 tour.
Sadly, I think I have a better chance of seeing Jesus.

Wouldn't be too far-fetched if the two bands didn't differ so much.  NIN went on and formed a unique audience after the Pretty Hate Machine years when they opened for GN'R.  It would be a house divided these days as far as fan-fare.  That would be something like Aerosmith and Marilyn Manson touring together.

But these references that Trent/NIN have made about GN'R over the past year have been interesting.

I don't think trent is doing this to insult robin or axl or GNR fans.

If anything, this is free advertising.  maybe he's trying to promote the album to his fans (like axl has done for trent for years)

or, who knows, maybe trent is going to produce the album or some of the songs or something. that would fucking rock.  and it wouldn't necessarily make gnr sound like NIN, e.g. trent has produced lots of great albums that don't sound like NIN, e.g. natural born killers soundtrack, marilyn manson, saul williams (though this isn't out yet)

it's strange that albumcover.jpg has the dimesions of a cd case, but chinesedemocracy.jpg has the dimensions of a dvd case

This is a little old I think but check it out:

Look in the mirror, its 2002 Axl!


(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k27/Montrealrocks/3_13_06.jpg)

yea, there was also a concert pics with buckethead in the crowd, and also the entire NIN live band standing in front of a doorway with a sign above the door that said "CHINESE DEMOCRACY"

those three pics were posted on nin.com last summer, I can try and find them later if anyone wants to see them.

Deffinetly interested if you get a chance.  :yes:

old news man

^^i think EFISH realizes that, why don't you do something useful and try to find/post the 3 other pics?

I couldn't agree more.  The typical NIN fan is not a GNR fan and vice versa.  Guns N'Roses was my first love, then I discovered NIN and have been hooked since.  They are the only two bands that I truly have passion for.  The thought of having them play together in some capacity would me mind blowing for me.  I realize, this isn't going to happen, but would love for Trent to have his hand on the mixing or production of the album.  Everything that Trent touches turns to gold.

(http://www.nin.com/current/photos/2_23_06.jpg)

(http://www.nin.com/current/photos/3_17_06.jpg)

Well he's obviously got a fasination for Chinese Democracy.


By the way, where's Buckethead?  :-[
 ;D

buckethead is in the crowd, i don't have time to circle him and then repost the pic, but he is there (can anyone else help out here).  there was a pic posted on HTGTH that had it circled, maybe try the search function EFISH (lol)

Found him! He's on the right in the middle.  : ok:

I can see the fascination but I think those are just to screen dodgy bits in the pics..


can you elaborate on that? a quote or a link would be appreciated.

taking in trent's remarks on robin not joining NIN tour, some people here take against him. needless to say some take against axl.

ppbebe, what do you mean here?

nonlinear for instance there might have been a guy holding the camera in the mirror of the first pic.
Maybe they didn't want people to see what was actually written on the board in the second one. 

(http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o26/cheapjonday/trentbh.jpg)

ppbebe, the axl head pic in the mirror was taken from the 2002 VMAs (I beleive).  someone had found the original pic on the net and put it next to the mirror pic, and it was clear that it was the same pic of axl. 

I guess i'm still confused.  are you saying it's not axl, or that the sign and axl's head were put in the pictures to cover things up?

why would buckethead be in the crowd then?

and why would the new chinesedemocracy.jpg be on the year zero site?

yeap that's buckethead

maybe bh was actually there.  :hihi:


the latter. there must have been other things in the original pics when taken. for some reasons they didn't want to show them.
no idea about the new chinesedemocracy.jpg.

trent and co. did all that as a part of a bet - probably having something to do with "gnr" fans getting worked up over every little detail on the internet and holding out hope that not only the album will one day be released but that there is some conspiracy in the works as well.  there will never be a nin/"gnr" collaboration and trent is not a "gnr" fan.  he (and his live band mates) have criticized axl, the band, and their music on many occasions.  trent is a fan of new cutting-edge music and makes new cutting-edge music - i can't imagine him having any genuine interest in a nostalgia band from the eighties that personifies so much of what he hates in the music business.

What the fuck are you doing here?

How the fuck did you figure that out?

copied it from another board ;)

Well the plot thickens,

a new Nine Inch Nails album, Year Zero, will be released on April 17th.

At the same time we are expecting a release date for CD some time around late-March, April, May...?

After the release of Year Zero, NIN will go on tour in May to Australia and Japan, so Gn'R wouldn't be the only band to release an album and not "hit the big markets" meaning Europe or US as some said that they should do...

NIN just toured for a long time, and took a break to finish this new record. They hit the US and Europe quite extensively (i saw them in Philly 3 times).

If Axl could get off his ass to accomplish 1/10th of what Trent does, we'd be in good shape.

trent realized that he's getting older and is pleasing his fans as much as he can. that's why his fanbase all loves him, he cares about the fans a lot.

"Year Zero" has 8 letters.
8+0=8.

Think About you is 8th song in AFD!!

Woohoo! Izzy is back!! Thanks Trent!

you guys are going crazy with this number adding shit.

a little too much of viewing "the number 23" trailer?

thats funny. my computer graphic program does the smart sizing automaticaly and it still looks like him.  :rofl:

(http://img443.imageshack.us/img443/541/bucketay4.jpg)

Where's Waldo anyone?

I think it's really funny that after all this time no-one has realised that just in front of Buckethead there stands an imposed picture of our friend Axl!

The picture is taken from one of the fan taken photos posted on this board and others last year. If memory serves the picture was taken of Axl and 3 or 4 fans surrounding him, and yes, he was wearing that baseball cap.

How could no-one notice this?? ;D

No-one noticed it cos its not there...its all in your mind  :hihi:

Yeah it looks like a heavier set dude with dark facial hair. the buckethead thing is better. you can even see his mask in blow up i made. but i wonder if he was just photoshopped into the original picture.

Yes , he was just photoshopped in. And that is a photoshop of axl placed right in front of him wearing the baseball cap.

Saul.

cool. do you know which picture the axl part was taken from?

Most likely from the fan encounter in the airport 1st posted at perezhilton.com. Just looks like Trent changed his hat color.

WOW! I see what you mean now!  ::)

wow that does look like axl!! And the way he is spaced is perfect!!

Has anyone else checked for other members???

This is the pic Saul is talking about. It's been cropped, but this is it.

(http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m293/LawnMoore/Buckethead/axl.jpg)

I still give it the roll eyes.  ::) a person doesn't bother rotating an image, changing the color of the hat and changing the color of facial hair for something like this. also different logo or writing on the hat

(http://img365.imageshack.us/img365/7506/bucket2xa9.jpg)

This person does put BH in a sea of people... Put Axl in a mirror, chinese democracy on the wall, name an unexisting pic chinese democracy... Yet its sooo far fetched thats Axl  ::)

I really think it is!

well they have medicine for that  : ok:

jk  ;D

That is kind of rediculous...

this message is regarding any speculation/rumors concerning a nin/gn'r or nin/axl collaboration in any way, shape, or form:

i would stop listening to nin if trent allowed axl in the studio with him.  and nin is my favorite band.  so why would this collaboration never come to fruition?  well... trent either hates axl or merely finds him ridiculously clownish (or both).  trent also dislikes gn'r and considers the bandmembers (primarily robin) in it merely for the money.  according to trent, robin has changed a lot since he first hired him in the early nineties.  trent is very picky about who appears on the records with him.  nin is an alternative band and trent is into alternative, cutting-edge music.  could you honestly imagine listening to "year zero", probably hearing trent singing serious, introspective lyrics over a kickass synth or guitar line, and then having axl fucking rose join in howling some raspy nonsense?  i could only see that if trent wanted to send a big "fuck you" to his fans.  the guest vocalist on the record is saul williams - he provides background vocals on a couple tracks.  so put this talk to rest.  this collaboration will never, ever, ever happen in a million years.

trent does like gnr, he said so in this lil documentry on guns.

That trent picture with buckethead was taken BEFORE that Axl with fans picture.

I agree it will never happen, Axl wouldn't appear on a B level groups album.

It looks like BH but not Axl in the pic.

i'm sure.  you're gonna have to provide some proof, or a quote, or something.

wow... you're right.  axl has wayyy too much artistic integrity to appear on a highly anticipated album that is being released by an artist who he's idolized since the early nineties.  axl is a true artist.  he's released so much high-quality, relevant music it's mind-boggling!

meh... axl's a rucking clown

Oh really?  :-[ :hihi:

When was the Axlpic taken... When was the NIN photo posted??

The Axl pic was taken shortly before the tour started, maybe Feburary or so.

The Trent pic is from 2005 I'm certain of it.

Well there goes you theroy  ;D

NIN pic: 3-16-06

I for one would be very dissappointed in Axl if he was working with Trent. ?Trent is a piece of crap. ?He spends years and years on music and projects that never see the light of day keeping his fans waiting. ?Then, he switches the line-up of his band constantly giving his fans nobody to get behind. ?He's a loner with no friends who writes songs about people whom he used to be very close to. ?What a piece of crap Trent is. ?Oh, wait a second.

Actually, I have been a NIN fan almost as long as I've been a GNR fan. ?I've always liked Axl and GNR alot more then Trent & Co, though. ?But it's weird. ?I'm actually looking more forward to Year Zero coming out than I am Chinese Democracy. ?Maybe it's because I've sub-conceiously convincedmyself that CD isn't coming out any time soon anyway, so what's the point in looking forward to it.

See whats goin on here axl  :no:

Release the album before you lose more faithfuls  :crying:

Damn  :hihi:

But seriously...theres no way thats the same picture.

haha you already had your chance buddy  :P

I'm usually one for always sayin bull shit to this kinda thing... But its to much of a coincidence

The word "Alternative" is like sooooo 1992.

And nowhere, at least as far as I have read, has Trent ragged on Robin as being in GN'R for the money.

Why are you even on this board? I hope Jarmo bans your poser ass.

When talking about the new NIN guitarist Trent said something along the lines of: " Robin is to busy hangin out with Axl, so he can pay for his house..."

I'm to lazy to find it tho

So wait, does Trent hate Axl or what cos I just found this on Ultimate-guitar:

Talking about the new album:

Reznor said that most of the album was recorded "in hotel rooms around the world on laptops," with very few musicians beside himself and "maybe some surprise vocalists that pop up here and there."

Source: http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/news/upcoming_releases/nine_inch_nails_album_track_listing.html

^ some hardcore NIN fan a few pages ago it was saul williams... i'm gueesin thats right

Ah rite, was worth a shot anyway  : ok:

I remember that quote as well. Everyone is buying into this too much. This is the exact reason why he pulls this shit is so the GnR online community gets in a cluster fuck trying to figure it out.

Agreed... I think the reason he does all this tomfoolery with the pictures and stuff, is because he's interested in the whole project... He knows what Robin bright to the table

I've never liked NIN, but he's got us talking, I'll give him that. For his sake, let's hope he cares as much about his own product as GNR's.

Look! More Clues!

1. hyperpower!- One word with the letter R and O and E. 3/4 of ROSE!
2. the beginning of the end- Has the word "the" just like "Welcome to the Jungle."
3. survivalism- Trent is saying Axl is a survivor!
4. the good soldier- Axl once called Tommy "General Tommy Stinson"!
5. vessel- A reference to "Madagascar," since Axl says he is lost out at sea!
6. me, i'm not- Trent is saying he is not anti Nu-GN'R!
7. capital g- "g" as in "Guns N' Roses"!
8. my violent heart- Violent like a gun, and heartfelt like a rose.
9. the warning- the first three letters in "warning" stand for W. Axl Rose
10. god given- The first word is "god" as in "oh my God!"
11. meet your master- Master, as in "Master of Puppets." Remember Metallica toured w/GN'R in '92!
12. the greater good- Has the word "great" in "greater as in GN'R's "Greatest hits"
13. the great destroyer- Trent is saying Slash and Duff are the ones who destroyed the old GN'R.
14. another version of the truth- Has the word "version" are there are two versions of "Don't Cry!"
15. in this twilight- A reference to the delay of "Chinese Democracy"
16. zero-sum- May have something to do with the Chinese New year...as in "Chinese Democracy"!

^Thats classic man.  :hihi:

Yes. Very Amusing.   ;D



/bringbackadler

All those clues gave me such a raging clue  :drool:

i did read a trent quote recently - i don't want to look for it, so take it as you will - that said that they were considering robin for the start of the 2005 tour, and he seemed interested at the time, but stayed with axl working without any progress.  this was before the new gn'r tour.  trent also said that robin must have changed a lot since he last knew him.  robin has his own disputes against trent's personality, so whatever.

anyway, i've also heard quotes about tommy getting fed up with axl and "quitting" gn'r on a few occasions but rejoining due to axl most likely throwing more money at him.  how factual these views are, i don't know.  but i'm still convinced that gn'r has remained to this day (if you can even say that) because of axl's bank account.  listen, i used to support gn'r and their intentions just as much as you all.  but now i consider axl and his band laughable at best.  i like robin, tommy, richard, and brain, so i'm hoping they find some real success.  but axl?  what a clown.  he should quit pretending that gn'r still exists and revel in the fact that he was once an amazing musician in an incredible band.

All hearsay. No basis in reality. If you think GN'R is such a joke you should leave the board...

"Either get on board or fuck off"- Tommy Stinson

 ::)

You're so profound!

               Its no secret Axl's held NIN in high esteem. Its said he fell for that industrial sound Reznor uses and became a fan of it. Plus I've never seen Reznor on TV or anywhere cut Axl down.

                Do I think the 2 teaming up on a song be too remote ? Well who knows. Music makes strange bedfellows so we'll never know. I know many would be shocked to see that happen.

seriously man, no one is going to miss your hating ass.   you have no business on this board if you feel GNR and Axl is truly a joke.   maybe you'd do better at a NIN forum.

 ::)

What are the doubters supposed to get on board though?

the 'fuck off' part

no, retard.  he's asking what tommy means by "get on board".  what does he mean by that?  who knows.  i'm assuming he wants people to stop criticizing the new band for all its failures.  so "getting on board" probably means just hanging in there and waiting for the album coming out in the fall one of the thirteen weeks before the new year march never.  personally, "fucking off" sounds like a lot more fun.  high five!

A new NIN song titled "My Violent Heart" leaked today on the NIN fanclub (the Spiral).  After listening to this song probably a dozen times, I am confident in saying the new NIN album is going to be the best yet.  If Trent offered a guest spot to Axl for the album, it would behoove him to take it.  I would do anything short of a gay act to have Trent and Axl collaborate on something, as they are my two all-time favorite musicians.

where have you been for the last 15 years, pal?

"my violent heart" is such an excellent song.  i agree that this album will be one of his finest works yet.  if you haven't yet, check into the new album's website and the forums at echoingthesound.  there are a bunch of alternate reality game sites out there that are being discovered.  these sites are giving hints about the album's concept and contain codes that are being deciphered by fans to reveal different pieces of information about the album.  it's some crazy shit.  this is one of the best album promotion and marketing techniques that i have witnessed.  axl should take some notes.

going by the quality of your posts, I think you will be "fucking off" pretty soon  :beer:

he's being sarcastic.  of course trent is a productive musician (now more so than ever), and his band line-up changes because trent is nine inch nails.  the rest of the musicians come and go on their own and they are primarily used to recreate the music in a live setting.  trent also isn't a loner who writes songs about people he used to be close to.  the new album is an apocalyptic concept piece about the end of the world, power, resistance, etc.  replace "trent" with "axl", and you get what the original writer was getting at.

Althought I respect/admire/adore Axl Rose and Guns N'Roses as much as Nine Inch Nails, NIN is light years ahead of GN'R when it comes to marketing, putting out material when they say they are going to, and being fan-friendly. ?Shit, the NN fan club has a ongoing blog where Trent gives his thoughts, message boards he often posts on, pre-sales where I always get good tickets for great prices, etc... ?In November '05, I got to attend a NIN soundcheck prior to their MSG show because I was a member of The Spiral (which cost like $35 I think). ?More recently, the much anticiapted DVD release of "Closure" (a live DVD) was turned down due to some legal crap, so the release was scrapped. ?Instead, Trent made it available for free download on The Spiral message board. ?It doesn't get much better than that. ?If I can change one thing about GN'R, it would be to be more like Reznor. ?Every now and then throw your most adamant fans a bone!

OK, I only read the first couple of lines.  yea, i know why trent's lineup changes, and realize nin=trent (until with teeth).  i am a huge nin fan  : ok: