Here Today... Gone To Hell!

This was from Rollingstone.com..

Tom Morello has revealed the thinking behind the forthcoming Rage Against the Machine Reunion: The notoriously political band wants to get President Bush. ?It occurred to all of us that the times were right to see if we can knock the Bush administration out in one fell swoop,? Morello reportedly said. ?This is an administration that believes it?s beyond the laws of the land? One thing this president isn?t above is the laws of physics, and there is no action without reaction. And we?re part of that reaction.? One more reason for Bush to be shaking in his cowboy boots


Well lets see...Rage is out to knock out the Bush Administration....wow what a surprise..the only problem is that the Bush administration is ALREADY KNOCKED OUT...they are few years too late on this one...I think Tom Morello should tell the truth..."we want to cash in on anti-bush sentiment to spark our careers again because Audioslaves last album bombed, and Zack De la Rocha hasnt done anything in almost 10 years"...I love Rage Against the Machine and I will go see them if they are on tour...but come on.....if they were serious about going after the Bush administration they would have done it in 2003...oh wait Audioslave was actually selling records back then....

sigh...

remember when they tried "going after" the PMRC? how'd that work out?


They're trying to hard ::). Just get back together and make your music

such a good point.and anyway like they have the power to have the impact to do such a thing.it would be great,dont get me wrong. until the next politician (or cunt for lack of better terms)no matter what apparent party they belong to takes over.

and anyway the bush administration just like any other dont hesitate to knock anyone off that imposes a threat on them,so it aint nothing to do with that i dont think,and the story and the quotes from morrello are most probably fabricated anyhoo.

they spent there money or alot of it and now its time to cash in on what is a great band,and im damn happy they are cos there is a lack of the aforementioned!
bring on the rage!!

and also his solo project has been in the works for so long now it must be time to show his face.or will we never see that?i mean hes been almost as long as axl.who knows what goes on in the lives of the celebrities!?lol

Yeah. Exactly huh?

They just try to be cool and edgy to attract new fans. Not to say they don't have a real problem with Bush... but..  :nervous:

Bush's political clout is pretty much gone. Seems like a $$$ cash in for RaGE TO REGROUP AT THIS POINT.

Imagine if Rage were still together during Premier Bush's reign?  Wow, they would/could have written some AWESOME songs.  Would have made Green Days american idiot look like a britney spears song.

i agree with most of you on here though, if they did do it now, it'd be kinda past due.

Best T-shirt i've seen in a long time on the streets of NYC:


I hated Bush before it was cool


classic  : ok:

in the 60's this might have neen 'profound' - now we're all so cynical its seems cliche

Are people really suggesting that Rage Against The Machine are insincere in their political motivation?  Oddly enough, these people are Bush supporters (or at least Bush defenders).

damn right
we cannot appreciate coolness anymore cause we all think we're so cool .....

I wouldn't say insincere at all, just really bad timing.  I kinda feel the american people aren't even raging against bush anymore - hes in such a lame duck state right now that, i feel, most people are just like "how much longer till 2008"

Exactly-people are looking at who's running in 2008-Bush is as lame duck as you can get-the time to be angry at Bush was in 2004 (election)-RATM would have been great then

My thought exactly. This "protest through music shit" died when john lennon was killed. Its very cliche nowadays.

 ???

What do you base this on?

Protest through music has existed about as long as music; it was a big part of folk/blues/rock n' roll long before Lennon, why would it possibly die with him?  Rage Against The Machine in particular has made protest music since its beginning, theyre not following a trend.  If protest music had truly died with Lennon, they would have never blown up to begin with.

Now, if youre saying there bad, cliche-ridden protest music, youre absolutely right, but thats a completely seperate concept from what you conveyed and really has nothing to do with Rage Against The Machine (unless you believe theyre somehow cliche).

i hope you dont think im one of those people.

I think they are just really late..thats all..I will be going to the shows if they go on tour...I enjoy their music...but it is kind of cliche now..There is nothing more lame than watching guys like Neil Young still make protest songs.....and you know it....i just think this whole message that Rage thinks they are going to get out is already out...and they know that.....so that cant be their honest intentions...keep in mind Audioslaves last record TANKED and AXL ROSE has been more active than Zack De La Rocha the past 10 years.....i think the art of the protest song died when John Mellencamp threw his hat into the ring... :hihi:

 :rofl:

Seriously, why would they want to make political points with which the majority of Americans agree, about a President who is on his way out the door?

Even I'm tired of beating up on the guy.  :hihi:

Never hate the bush sir. You just gotta learn how to work it. : ok:

Out where?  Rage Against The Machine didnt make it, so its irrelevant to them.  Its safe to assume had they not broken up they would be doing the same thing, right?  So how could anyone take issue with what is perfectly logical and natural to them - it would be more disingenuous for them to consciously avoid referencing the president because Pink or the Dixie Chicks made their own songs on the subject.  Why should they?  Because Bush has low approval ratings?  Because hes a lame duck? Whats that have to do with anything?  Is he still president?  Are his policies still affecting people?  Then hes still a viable subject. 

De La Rochas been quiet for five years or so, releasing only two songs (both concerning Bush), and Audioslave has been light on politics, so of course they have a lot to say together. 

I hear a cover of "Money" is in Rage's future.... no i totally get what you are saying booker...but because so many shitty artists have already taken shots at Bush...its like whats the point?  we get it....Bush is done....its like a boxer climbing into the fight after its over and beating on the loser who is already on the mat unconscious......this message they want to spread is going to lack the "power" that it would have had 3 years ago...obviously this was not an important enough issue for them, otherwise they would have splite up their mutli-million selling band for it.....

I don't mind them being political...it's what they do.  But if they really want to convey a political message, it might be better to focus on issues, rather than a President who will be well on his way out the door by the time the get something out there.  Issues last beyond term limits.

Bush is gonna become a beloved anti hero before long.


Bush has done a shitty job but imagine how fucking hard being the president has to be.


Say he doesn't attack Iraq and they do have weapons and they blow up Somebody or someone Flies a nuclear bomb into NY or something.


Either way the guy was doomed.


Dont need a rock band monday morning quarterback to further pile on.

Bush sucks, he fucked up, lets look forward to 08, nothing can be done now.  Rage are about 4 years late to the party.

I don't know about all that, but I heard global warming was caused by gay marriage.

Possible

All that friction heats up the earth's core.

Yea........


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I'd love to see all the crazy ass pictures u got on your hard drive :hihi:

yes, in this instance.

can anybody explain what they mean by "knock the bush administration out"?

i think most people are taking it for what it is....BS. just a cheesy way of promoting the reunion, getting headlines, and making more $$.

Theres more to reconciling a bands relationship than sharing a political agenda.  They obviously had to overcome whatever personal differences were there, and unfortunately it took 6 years.

Go to: http://www.flickr.com/photos/gilbertestrada/108499075/

Zack may have been under the radar in terms of mainstream rock, but he's been pretty active in the east & south LA community.  There was one piece in the local news some time ago, about how he and some guys constructed an FM transmitter and broadcast their messages over the so-called 'public' radio spectrum.  The idea was to make people aware that most terrestrial radio channels are monopolized by one voice.  It was funny, and cool. While I am looking forward to the Rage reunion (Bush or no Bush), I hope he continues his wacky side projects, at the local level.

 
Bush has committed mass murder on an enormous scale. There is no reason to let up on him, not for one moment........

mass murder? a little dramatic arent you?  He waged a war and did a terrible job and alot of people have died...hes not hitler....as much as you want him to be...I wonder what you guys would have been like in the WW2 era where hundreds of thousands of troops were being killed...and we were dropping nuclear bombs......

terrestrial radio channels are monopolized by one voice because conservatives are the ones who get the ratings....something i still dont understand...I dont know why talk radio is so one sided....you would think liberals would have a solid base to listen to their programs too but they dont....Air America was a complete catastrophy....the DNC pumped millions into that station but they still went off the air....they just didnt have the listeners....so if Zack De La Rocha did some research he would see that the reason his views are not on terrestrial radio is because they dont get ratings thus they dont get money....its not some government conspiracy....but im sure Zack was able to fool a bunch of 16 year olds into thinking it was....

Over 650,00 dead Iraqis because of Bush's lies. I'd file that under mass murder.

prove Bush lied.......im not saying prove the intelligence was wrong..or that the war was completely mismanaged...I want you to prove that Bush LIED...prove he is a liar.....when people say things like this it is obvious that they know nothing about politics  if you disagree with Bush or hate him..thats cool its you're right...but there is no evidence the guy LIED about anything.......you can ASSUME bush lied...but im saying PROVE it.....

There has been proof for sometime now.

Top CIA officials have come forward to say that Bush was told there was no WMD-that the source was not to be trusted, but Bush chose to ignore that and present that to the world as fact. This came out months ago, where have you been?

I'm sure you are up to date with the Libby trial (that would require you to read.) In case you are not, it is an absolute smoking gun that Bush and his dirtbag VP Cheney not only lied, but went after those who told the truth.

"Rage Against the Machine out to get Bush"

Wow, I would have to say they're about a day late and a dollar short on that one.

I'm rather surprised this band isn't using all of their recent media attention to bring greater awareness to more productive causes.

Cheers,
W.R.
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yawn.......

Your mistake was in assuming that political equates to partisan, and you overlooked my use of the word local.

There used to be many radio stations in LA, KNAC (KNAC-ya! as Sebastian Bach would say), Pirate radio, etc.  Those have disappeared over the years, and now you have choice between pop schlock or modern rock.  We can sit here and whine about the death of good music, but one point remains to be said:


Most board members are well aware of Clear Channel with regards to the 2002 tour.  ;)

Satellite radio and internet radio have made inroads into terrestrial radio's listenership, and there are plenty of 'alternate' ways of finding good music.  Most people dont know or dont care about how the FCC divides up the radio spectrum, and how electromagnetic waves become a political topic.  Zack's broadcasts were focused on this topic, and making people aware of various FCC rulings.

And incidentally, I read about this in a local rag for ham radio enthusiasts.  While the average Joe likes to use his gadgets without knowing how they work, fortunately there are people in this world who ask 'well, how did you build that FM transmitter?'  Ham radio folks, regardless of whether they are GOP/Democrat/etc, care very much about the FCC's rulings.

still waiting for proof....if they have proof he should be impeached........hey if they find it I will be the first one to say impeach him.....a few CIA officials saying one thing is still not EVIDENCE....where is the smoking gun? Listen if it turns out that there is a smoking gun...and we have 100 percent evidence that Bush LIED...ill back his impeachment 100 percent...I have not heard anything of a smoking gun...I mean a real one...the left has claimed they have had smoking guns for the last 6 years...is this one for real this time?

American actions in Iraq has made us responsible for the needless deaths of hundreds of thousands of people. It is unfortunate you are unable to face up to that. It is as much a moral disaster for us as it was for the German people. Three million Iraqis are currently refugees, and death among them from starvation and disease is also horrifying. It is sad you cannot see that George Bush has turned Iraq into a giant Death Camp.






I see no difference. Both pursued mass murder in the name of a failed ideology, not in the name of morality and righteousness in battling some evil that could not be avoided. The neo-con philosophy of soft-soap Nazism is as odious as the Maoism of Pol Pot. All seek to impose their will on other people through violence. There is no moral righteousness in anything we have done, only a smoke screen. They are all the same. Fuck all of you bastards.

I dont remember Howlin Wolf, John Lee Hooker, Robert Johnson, Jerry Lee Lewis, Elvis Presly, Johnny Cash etc. protesting about anything.

so you see no difference between Bush and a man who tried to wipe several races off the face of the earth?...i got nothing....im not even bothering talking to you....you obviously arent jewish or polish for that matter....otherwise you would NEVER casually put Hitler in the same league as Bush....you obvioulsy have no understanding of the holocaust at all.....

Apparently youve never heard Johnny Cashs "The Ballad of Ira Hayes," (http://www.amazon.com/gp/music/wma-pop-up/B00000HZE7001008/ref=mu_sam_wma_001_008/105-4766801-5638826) which touched on injustices against Native Americans.  Or John Lee Hookers "I Dont Wanna Go To Vietnam" (http://www.amazon.com/gp/music/wma-pop-up/B000002R3V001001/ref=mu_sam_wma_001_001/105-4766801-5638826) ("We got so much trouble at home, we don't need to go to Vietnam").

From a Living Blues magazine article:

"Southern Exposure was the third album by Josh White, a young singer who was then staking out a unique position in American music: he was the only musician ever to make a name for himself singing political blues. Oddly, he made no claim to uniqueness; like Wright, he argued that the blues was by its nature a protest music, and decades of writers on the subject would concur."

However I was mistaken to include rock n' roll.  While there might have been a few songs dealing with societal issues (Chuck Berrys "Too Much Monkey Business" being one), they mostly began appearing during Lennons career.

Bush's approval rating is so low, it seems less of a big deal to come out against him.

Its like coming out against hunger or something.

Well youre a Bush supporter, so thats your take on it and thats fine.  But you can rest assured they have come out against Bush seperately in some capacity during his entire time in office, so its only logical theyd continue together. 

I don't like bush but you seriously know nothing about what hitler did if you say so and to compare bush with that.

just like calling jarmo a nazi just for censoring total bullshit when nazism is nothing about that.

some of you people are really so way out of line :no: get real and learn some shit about hitler and after that dare to say you don't see no difference between him and bush, you make yourselves looking like total fools and that's what you are fi you think it's like that.


Be thankful for that one of the greatest bands from the 90's is getting back together :headbanger: