Here Today... Gone To Hell!

I know she has connections to the band but the rules are the rules, or so we're told. She openly insults and attack members, and I just don't she why who she is makes that okay. Just seems a little hypocritical to me.

I think some assume that her actions are justified.

I'm not saying if i agree or not.

where has she insulted anyone? quotes?

i've seen her post debunking rumors or telling people they are wrong.  she would certainly know more than anyone of us here.    I'm glad shes around.   I dont blame how upset she gets at some of these people who act like because they are a guns n roses fan that Axl Rose should do everything thing on THEIR time the way THEY want.    It doesn't work that way.   

yeah, give beta some karma. because if i see a "-1" under her username i will feel better about her posts  :hihi:

some people here are just... :nervous:

so beta takes the time to write here and you feel offended? yeah, maybe she's not that calm in her posts but can you blame her? she's been with axl and gnr so long that that's part of her family. how would you react if someone talks shit about your family?

be grateful she's here

This thread (http://www.heretodaygonetohell.com/board/index.php?topic=40516.msg822649#msg822649) springs to mind. Without taking sides, I do feel sorry that Minneapolisnewsman decided to quit on us in the aftermath, he was a very active poster and seemed genuinely excited about the band touring again.

I dont see any insult there. He was talking out of his ass without knowing the facts, and she only called him on it. If you can't handle the fire stay out of the kitchen, as the saying goes.

She's better than you.

^ Thanx for the explanation. I just thought that needed to be said if it was the case.

Four legs good, Two legs better.

If you can't handle being corrected, then maybe you shouldn't post bullshit speculation in the first place.

Or keep your narrow minded opinions to yourself if you can't handle being set straight.


/jarmo

Look at it like family, we are all part of it sort of.

She is the mother figure to the band or atleast Axl.

So that being said if you walked down the street would you tell a mother something negative about her son, maybe you would but how would she react to it.

Any mother or family member for that matter would fight till the end defending or protecting there own.

We might not all agree with what happens in the GNR world, but as humans we should understand human nature. :peace:

If Axl would actually post here what do you think he would say about the crap that is said.

He would call most on here double jive mother fuckers ?:hihi:



 

I have never had an encounter with Beta. I've merely seen her attack respected members whose only fault was questioning the actions of a band that consistently leaves us in the dark.

"Hi, I'm Communist China, and I started this thread just to start shit!"

"respected members" Depends on who you ask...........

I guess it's unbearable to read some of the negative comments. It has to be emotionally exhausting to see someone you care about get verbally attacked and unfairly judged almost everyday.

It's easy for people to sit around and say, "why didn't they do things this way or that way". But  no one can understand the pressures of touring and recording an album - an album that is in high demand with even higher expectations.

It's easy to point fingers, but the truth is, none of us are in her position.



Leaves us in the dark?

Wow, I thought you knew by now how things work. I guess you want GN'R to be something they're not.



/jarmo

I'm not asking beta to be disallowed her opinon, and I respect the frustrations that come with her position in GN'R, but she could 'correct' people without calling their comments 'shitty'.

Fair or unfair, Beta's got an attitude, that's what I get from reading her posts. A little modesty wouldn't hurt her or anybody else for that matter.

If I get what you mean by how things "work", then I can't see why someone like Beta would get all wound up over people's speculation, no matter how off it may be.

You have to admit her posts are pretty funny :hihi:

Of course you don't. You're not in her position are you?


/jarmo

Maybe cause she is Beta? DUR : ok:

don't be so condescending, he asked a fair question

beta is a close personal friend of axl's, i would pissed too if people at a message board constantly talked shit and spread untrue rumour about one of my best friends. this karma shit is overrated anyway, it's just a number, why do you people care so much about it? don't you have things that matter more in your lives?

Any fan of the band would love to know more, that's a given.  We ALL want the album, we ALL are anxious to see our favorite band back in action and actively kicking ass once again, as they've already started doing over the past year.   However, the truth is, the band doesn't owe us anything in terms of explanations and updates right now.   If they want to, I'm grateful for any new info, but if not, we have no real right to hold it against them...

Beta is a gift and a heroine. How anybody can whine about her is beyond me :no:

Kinda hard to put beta in the same standard as other posters in terms of expectations and reactions-
- i don't think she would get bad karma if she curse on the forum or similar like anyone else would get, but not saying thats a bad thing since i feel it's a little like "special member" or something :P

She get special treatment, We get inside info-stuff
So win win imo :peace:

That is very true. And it's why we have speculation. Beta seems to expect us to sit patiently saying, 'Gee, isn't this great?' but as long as their is silence from GN'R there will be lots of speculation, and she shouldn't get to call our ideas 'shitty' just because we aren't always satisfied with silence.

In her defense, she wasn't calling anyone's ideas 'shitty'. Someone had posted that the South African venue was the 'shittiest'. She was just countering what that person said.

I don't think thats what she's here for

HAHAHAHAHaHHAHAHAHAHA!!!

Beta has positive 10 karma's. In your fizzace all you whiners!  :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

ROFL hahahaha! ;D
when the "mother" of guns n' roses comes to post at our board, you don't fucking whine about it! way to go jarmo! :smoking:
beta rocks! :beer:

Se Queres,queres se n?o queres diz! Beta Rulez!  :peace:

Who really gives a shit about her karma??

Think some of the people on this board worry to much about this karma thing.

tell me about it...

I'm really worried about some of you.

Bigtime.....

HAHA - That's classic!  ;D

am i the only person who has no idea who this "beta" is?

Yes.

You serious dude?

Attack is a form of defence, and all she has ever done is support the band. And she is entitled to given her position.

yeah have no idea who this person is

uhhh how long have you been a fan?

Well he's been here since 04, so that's kinda sad he doesn't know who beta is.

 :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused:

link to something she did which contributed? so maybe ill know

Only 4 out of 5 of those  :confused: are in sync. That's cool.

Beta is more than a poster. She is Axl's nanny or something.

To be exact, she's Axl's personal assisant from back in the Seymour years. She's like a mother to Axl and to all of Guns N' Roses.  :)

Thats pretty much it, in a nut shell

This thread is like asking why Laura  Bush doesn't get parking tickets. It just does not happen.

I certainly don't want to insult anyone, but, you know how they say "The only stupid question is one that isn't asked"?? There ARE exceptions to that rule.? ;)

Great post :rofl: I think this thing is done here. But I also think that this karma-thing in some way has lost its meaning, altough I don't even care..

To be 100% exact she was Seymours nanny for Dylan then when Seymour and Axl split she stayed on with Axl as his assistent.