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Title: Steven Adler on VH1 Post by: circusboy666 on January 28, 2007, 11:39:05 AM i just saw that piece of garbage on VH1's celebrity fame game as a guest judge. what a mess that guy is. hilarious....try to check it out if you can....its on like every other hour
Title: Re: Steven Adler on VH1 Post by: EFISH on January 28, 2007, 11:40:59 AM Haha really? I watch that show. ;D It's on here in like 9 hours....will see for myself then! :o
Title: Re: Steven Adler on VH1 Post by: circusboy666 on January 28, 2007, 11:42:14 AM his stroke makes it look like hes high all the time(which he probably is)
Title: Re: Steven Adler on VH1 Post by: Crazyman on January 28, 2007, 11:42:20 AM Holy shit...I saw him for a second.
Let me guess, did they make an Appetite for Destruction reference? :hihi: (Because of the game...) Title: Re: Steven Adler on VH1 Post by: circusboy666 on January 28, 2007, 11:43:37 AM yes.....they asked him if gnr would be proud of them....it was a mission where you trash a room
Title: Re: Steven Adler on VH1 Post by: gandra on January 28, 2007, 11:45:57 AM i read somewhere he became a gay,i mean bisexual and he was talking about steven tayler sucking
is it right Title: Re: Steven Adler on VH1 Post by: EFISH on January 28, 2007, 11:47:10 AM i read somewhere he became a gay,i mean bisexual and he was talking about steven tayler sucking I believe so, mate.is it right Title: Re: Steven Adler on VH1 Post by: circusboy666 on January 28, 2007, 11:48:30 AM ya he said when he was like 16 he used to let old dudes slob on his knob for $$$---hes gross
Title: Re: Steven Adler on VH1 Post by: gandra on January 28, 2007, 11:56:00 AM he looks kike shit,but after two strokes he have to be happy because he is alive
Title: Re: Steven Adler on VH1 Post by: Grouse on January 28, 2007, 12:43:21 PM All I see in this thread are a couple of internet tough guys bashing someone they don't know.... ::)
Title: Re: Steven Adler on VH1 Post by: Butch Français on January 28, 2007, 02:20:12 PM All I see in this thread are a couple of internet tough guys bashing someone they don't know.... ::) yeah that's what Im seeing too. "I read somewhere he became a gay". what year are you living in man? none of you guys crap is true, I would prove it if I bothered. but Im tired of this sort of mindless slanting. Title: Re: Steven Adler on VH1 Post by: EFISH on January 28, 2007, 02:41:23 PM I dont know if youre talking about me, but i dont have a problem with Steven.
Should be fun to see him on TV tonight, anyway. :D Title: Re: Steven Adler on VH1 Post by: Robman? on January 28, 2007, 02:57:20 PM Cool,its on at 8 and at 10 here.
I'll be sure to give it a watch. When did he have his strokes? what years? Title: Re: Steven Adler on VH1 Post by: bigbri on January 28, 2007, 09:31:23 PM All I see in this thread are a couple of internet tough guys bashing someone they don't know.... ::) I also know Internet tough guys as "keyboard gangstas." Title: Re: Steven Adler on VH1 Post by: duffsgal on January 28, 2007, 10:46:42 PM Yawn - another 'lets bash Steven Adler thread'. Cant you people come up with anything else. Leave the guy alone.
Title: steven on TV Post by: AXL 20 on January 28, 2007, 11:33:56 PM Steven is judging a hotel wrecking contest on the surreal life fame games on VH1
dont know if ts new. Iam watching right now Title: Re: steven on TV Post by: Loaded NightraiN on January 28, 2007, 11:36:58 PM checkin it out thanks!!
Title: Re: steven on TV Post by: EFISH on January 28, 2007, 11:37:42 PM It was purty cool!
Steven made me laugh. ;D Title: Re: steven on TV Post by: Bodhi on January 28, 2007, 11:58:18 PM hmm Steven Adler said he wouldnt rejoin GNR for a billion dollars...yet here he his pimping himself out on The Surreal Life...I hope they didnt use the name Guns N Roses when introducing him, which im sure they did,,because that appearance totally cheapens the band name
Title: Re: steven on TV Post by: EFISH on January 29, 2007, 12:00:19 AM hmm Steven Adler said he wouldnt rejoin GNR for a billion dollars...yet here he his pimping himself out on The Surreal Life...I hope they didnt use the name Guns N Roses when introducing him, which im sure they did,,because that appearance totally cheapens the band name "The original drummer of Guns N' Roses.......Steven Adler!" "Which team would have made Guns N' Roses proud?" But man chill, he looked cool out there. Pretty whacked out, but cool. Title: Re: steven on TV Post by: gangs_n_robbers on January 29, 2007, 12:01:56 AM I hope they didnt use the name Guns N Roses when introducing him, which im sure they did,,because that appearance totally cheapens the band name at least he is an original. alot of people would say axl is cheapening the name right now. I think steve has the right to use the gnr name ALOT more than gilby on supernova. that was bullshit. Title: Re: steven on TV Post by: Loaded NightraiN on January 29, 2007, 12:05:04 AM I hope they didnt use the name Guns N Roses when introducing him, which im sure they did,,because that appearance totally cheapens the band name at least he is an original. alot of people would say axl is cheapening the name right now. I think steve has the right to use the gnr name ALOT more than gilby on supernova. that was bullshit. Yeah i've got no problem with steven using the GNR name with anything he does.... He paid his dues!! Title: Re: steven on TV Post by: Bodhi on January 29, 2007, 12:05:14 AM I agree with you in a way...although Gilby stepped up big time and saved the band after Izzy split with 2 weeks to go before a MASSIVE tour....Gilby learned 40 songs in less than 2 weeks....but I do think Steven has more of a right to the GNR name than Gilby...actually on supernova Tommy Lee was the only one who had a real right to use his bands name...Jason Newsted was Lars and James bitch for 14 years and Gilby was in the band for a little over 2 years...they just used the name to get viewers...my only concern with the VH1 thing is that is a show that features Vanilla Ice, Ron Jeremy, and China....not too thrilled to have a legendary name like Guns N Roses mixed in with it..
Title: Re: steven on TV Post by: Loaded NightraiN on January 29, 2007, 12:12:24 AM I agree with you in a way...although Gilby stepped up big time and saved the band after Izzy split with 2 weeks to go before a MASSIVE tour....Gilby learned 40 songs in less than 2 weeks....but I do think Steven has more of a right to the GNR name than Gilby...actually on supernova Tommy Lee was the only one who had a real right to use his bands name...Jason Newsted was Lars and James bitch for 14 years and Gilby was in the band for a little over 2 years...they just used the name to get viewers...my only concern with the VH1 thing is that is a show that features Vanilla Ice, Ron Jeremy, and China....not too thrilled to have a legendary name like Guns N Roses mixed in with it.. I'd be willing to bet if VH1 offered Steven a starring role on a surreal life, he'd jump all over it in a mintue... so just be thankful that hasent happened yet :hihi: Title: Re: steven on TV Post by: D on January 29, 2007, 12:14:37 AM Steven is still by far the greatest drummer GNR have ever had.
I hate the guy but I still gotta give him his credit. : ok: Title: Re: steven on TV Post by: Bodhi on January 29, 2007, 12:17:51 AM Steven is still by far the greatest drummer GNR have ever had. I hate the guy but I still gotta give him his credit. : ok: if by the greatest, i hope you dont mean the most talented, because Matt, Brain, Josh Freese and Frank are all better....oh yeah and so is Lars for that matter...hey one song counts...... Title: Re: steven on TV Post by: bigbri on January 29, 2007, 12:19:29 AM Steven is still by far the greatest drummer GNR have ever had. I hate the guy but I still gotta give him his credit. : ok: if by the greatest, i hope you dont mean the most talented, because Matt, Brain, Josh Freese and Frank are all better....oh yeah and so is Lars for that matter...hey one song counts...... Gotta agree with that. No way Steven is the greatest GNR drummer ever. Title: Re: steven on TV Post by: EFISH on January 29, 2007, 12:19:43 AM I agree with you in a way...although Gilby stepped up big time and saved the band after Izzy split with 2 weeks to go before a MASSIVE tour....Gilby learned 40 songs in less than 2 weeks....but I do think Steven has more of a right to the GNR name than Gilby...actually on supernova Tommy Lee was the only one who had a real right to use his bands name...Jason Newsted was Lars and James bitch for 14 years and Gilby was in the band for a little over 2 years...they just used the name to get viewers...my only concern with the VH1 thing is that is a show that features Vanilla Ice, Ron Jeremy, and China....not too thrilled to have a legendary name like Guns N Roses mixed in with it.. I'd be willing to bet if VH1 offered Steven a starring role on a surreal life, he'd jump all over it in a mintue... so just be thankful that hasent happened yet :hihi: Title: Re: steven on TV Post by: Loaded NightraiN on January 29, 2007, 12:23:14 AM Steven is still by far the greatest drummer GNR have ever had. I hate the guy but I still gotta give him his credit. : ok: if by the greatest, i hope you dont mean the most talented, because Matt, Brain, Josh Freese and Frank are all better....oh yeah and so is Lars for that matter...hey one song counts...... Gotta agree with that. No way Steven is the greatest GNR drummer ever. He's sold the most GNR albums of any GNR drummer... Thats gotta count for something :hihi: Title: Re: Steven Adler on VH1 Post by: D on January 29, 2007, 03:23:42 AM I really hate being classified a GNR fan with some of u on this forum who know jack fucking shit about this band even though u think u do.
How can Brain and Frank and these fucking guys be better than the guy who has some of the greatest drumming ever Laid down on a fucking CD? Sayin this is almost as fucking dumb as sayin Bumble or Robin are better than Slash. Have u ever listened to Appetite For Destruction? I dont mean listen to Axl sing or Slash p lay guitar, I mean Really fucking listening to the CD where u hear everything. Steven has some of the greatest Drum riffs EVER. His drumming u can actually sing a long with. He has some iconic fuckin Drumming ability. The drumming on the Illusions is nowhere on the level of AFD and nothing I have heard from Brain or Frank live measure up to Adler's brilliance. I hate Steven Adler with a passion. I think he is a piece of shit washed up loser who blames everyone but himself for his problems BUT I REFUSE to discredit what an amazing drummer and what a great contribution he made to one of the greatest albums ever made. So called GNR fans need to show this guy's skill some Fucking Respect and need a lesson on GNR history. Title: Re: Steven Adler on VH1 Post by: kaasupoltin on January 29, 2007, 03:28:20 AM .. How can Brain and Frank and these fucking guys be better than the guy who has some of the greatest drumming ever Laid down on a fucking CD? .. I tought we were talking about who's the best drummer technically.. Title: Re: Steven Adler on VH1 Post by: D on January 29, 2007, 03:32:23 AM I dont mean to sound like an Asshole or to sound rude, but WHO cares about TEchnical ability.
Jesus Christ I get so fucking sick of this. The drummers at Nebraska were all way TECHNICALLY better than Tommy Lee on that TV show Tommy Lee Goes To College but are they ever gonna be or make up some of the greatest drum riffs EVER? What the hell has Brain, Freese or Frank ever wrote that will stand the test of time? Adler's beats on Appetite For Destruction are legendary and amazing and have yet to be duplicated since. Is it a coincidence that the GNR Feel left when he got fired? UYI songs do not have the swing, they dont have the groove that Appetite has and that is cause of the drumming. U don't have to like Adler, LIke i said, I hate the guy, but at least give the man some credit. had he not fucked his self up with drugs, he very easily would be considered one of the greatest rock drummers ever. Title: Re: Steven Adler on VH1 Post by: kaasupoltin on January 29, 2007, 03:38:40 AM I dont mean to sound like an Asshole or to sound rude, but WHO cares about TEchnical ability. .. That's right, I agree with you totally. That's why I like Adler and Sorum better than Brain. But I gotta admit that Brain is technically better.. and that's what the guys were talkin' about. Title: Re: Steven Adler on VH1 Post by: NicoRourke on January 29, 2007, 05:55:28 AM What the hell has Brain, Freese or Frank ever wrote that will stand the test of time? Stuffs on a forthcoming album called Chinese Democracy. UYI songs do not have the swing, they dont have the groove that Appetite has and that is cause of the drumming. Agree, but that's also because the band didn't wanted to rewrite AFD again. They went for a new sound. had he not fucked his self up with drugs, he very easily would be considered one of the greatest rock drummers ever. Probably, yes. Title: Re: Steven Adler on VH1 Post by: tomass74 on January 29, 2007, 07:32:35 AM i read somewhere he became a gay,i mean bisexual and he was talking about steven tayler sucking is it right No not at all.. The Steven Tyler was a total twisted story.. Him and Steven were fucking groupies in a bus.. The way Adler worded it, it sounds like he said him and Steven were fucking... Title: Re: steven on TV Post by: tomass74 on January 29, 2007, 07:35:04 AM I agree with you in a way...although Gilby stepped up big time and saved the band after Izzy split with 2 weeks to go before a MASSIVE tour....Gilby learned 40 songs in less than 2 weeks....but I do think Steven has more of a right to the GNR name than Gilby...actually on supernova Tommy Lee was the only one who had a real right to use his bands name...Jason Newsted was Lars and James bitch for 14 years and Gilby was in the band for a little over 2 years...they just used the name to get viewers...my only concern with the VH1 thing is that is a show that features Vanilla Ice, Ron Jeremy, and China....not too thrilled to have a legendary name like Guns N Roses mixed in with it.. I'd be willing to bet if VH1 offered Steven a starring role on a surreal life, he'd jump all over it in a mintue... so just be thankful that hasent happened yet? :hihi: Guarantee he will be in the next season if there is one.... Title: Re: steven on TV Post by: tomass74 on January 29, 2007, 07:36:33 AM Steven is still by far the greatest drummer GNR have ever had. I hate the guy but I still gotta give him his credit. : ok: if by the greatest, i hope you dont mean the most talented, because Matt, Brain, Josh Freese and Frank are all better....oh yeah and so is Lars for that matter...hey one song counts...... Lars?? What song are you refering too? And I think you are downplaying Steven drumming.. He really is very good. Title: Re: Steven Adler on VH1 Post by: aimz on January 29, 2007, 08:10:36 AM i have no idea what this thread is about....can anyone post this on youtube or something so i can see/.?????....please...
Title: Re: steven on TV Post by: CheapJon on January 29, 2007, 08:56:09 AM Lars?? What song are you refering too?? he played on out ta get me (i think) in one of the last 3 shows on california, and he did it very very badly Title: Re: steven on TV Post by: tomass74 on January 29, 2007, 10:08:04 AM Lars?? What song are you refering too?? he played on out ta get me (i think) in one of the last 3 shows on california, and he did it very very badly oh ok, I thought he was saying he was actually on a studio track..... He fits right in with the new band... Title: Re: Steven Adler on VH1 Post by: gnrfanxxx on January 29, 2007, 04:06:50 PM youtube???
Title: Re: Steven Adler on VH1 Post by: JDA on January 29, 2007, 05:28:34 PM Steven looked like shit. He looks like he ways 100lbs. I like to consider Matt oldschool GN'R drummer instead of Steven.
Title: Re: Steven Adler on VH1 Post by: D on January 29, 2007, 07:03:20 PM Steven looked like shit.? He looks like he ways 100lbs.? I like to consider Matt oldschool GN'R drummer instead of Steven.? Sorry dude but Matt cant hold Steven's Dick drum wise. I hate Matt more than I do Adler to be honest. Title: Re: Steven Adler on VH1 Post by: snakepiter on January 30, 2007, 02:48:19 AM D got it right!!!
Title: Re: Steven Adler on VH1 Post by: aimz on January 30, 2007, 05:44:28 AM youtube??? yeah youtube....the site where you can watch videos and stuff......is that possible cos i aint seen it.....sounds good thoughTitle: Re: Steven Adler on VH1 Post by: tomass74 on January 30, 2007, 08:31:59 AM Steven looked like shit.? He looks like he ways 100lbs.? I like to consider Matt oldschool GN'R drummer instead of Steven.? Sorry dude but Matt cant hold Steven's Dick drum wise. I hate Matt more than I do Adler to be honest. You sure have alot of hate for people you do not know... Title: Re: Steven Adler on VH1 Post by: gandra on January 30, 2007, 12:45:13 PM I like steven,but i only ask "is he hay" ,because i read it on wikipedia
btw,he is my favorite gnr drummer but man,now in my late 20-es,i can see how good is uyi albums. apetite rocks and everybody know that,but uyimuic is the best music which i ever heard uyi arernr art Title: Re: Steven Adler on VH1 Post by: aimz on January 30, 2007, 01:40:08 PM I like steven,but i only ask "is he hay" ,because i read it on wikipedia im guessing you ment 'gay....and to answer your question, no hes not..hes been married for quite a while now....there was a thread on this a couple of monthes back...btw,he is my favorite gnr drummer but man,now in my late 20-es,i can see how good is uyi albums. apetite rocks and everybody know that,but uyimuic is the best music which i ever heard uyi arernr art Title: Re: Steven Adler on VH1 Post by: Locomotive98 on January 30, 2007, 02:44:22 PM I like steven,but i only ask "is he hay" ,because i read it on wikipedia im guessing you ment 'gay....and to answer your question, no hes not..hes been married for quite a while now....there was a thread on this a couple of monthes back...btw,he is my favorite gnr drummer but man,now in my late 20-es,i can see how good is uyi albums. apetite rocks and everybody know that,but uyimuic is the best music which i ever heard uyi arernr art Wow, loads of people bagging on a guy who played on AFD! Well done. They guy might be messed up but hes achieved more in his life than I reckon most of you bashers have or will. Plus they got him on there because if they said 'we've got Frank from GNR on tonight' everyone would say 'Whos Frank from GNR? Leave the dude alone, his work on AFD is beyond great. Title: Re: Steven Adler on VH1 Post by: gnrfanxxx on January 30, 2007, 04:38:47 PM youtube??? yeah youtube....the site where you can watch videos and stuff......is that possible cos i aint seen it.....sounds good thoughTitle: Re: Steven Adler on VH1 Post by: D on January 31, 2007, 01:51:29 AM I dont mean hate Matt literally like I wish he'd die and burn in hell.
By saying I hate him just means Ive never been a fan of his,Maybe hate is too strong of word but u get the idea. Every interview or everytime I have ever heard Matt speak I just want to smack him. Title: Re: Steven Adler on VH1 Post by: kaasupoltin on January 31, 2007, 01:55:48 AM .. Every interview or everytime I have ever heard Matt speak I just want to smack him. That's just stupid. I mean.. oh well.. Title: Re: Steven Adler on VH1 Post by: D on January 31, 2007, 02:11:57 AM Behind the Music or even the Rise of VR, he is just so cocky and arrogant and just his attitude drives me crazy.
Title: Re: Steven Adler on VH1 Post by: kaasupoltin on January 31, 2007, 02:29:06 AM Behind the Music or even the Rise of VR, he is just so cocky and arrogant and just his attitude drives me crazy. He was in Guns n' Roses for like 7 years. Playing on three albums + Live Era. Don't you think he deserves to be on Behind The Music? I think it's only interesting to hear what he has to say about his position and the band. And what's the problem with the rise of VR? ::) Title: Re: Steven Adler on VH1 Post by: tomass74 on January 31, 2007, 07:55:18 AM I like steven,but i only ask "is he hay" ,because i read it on wikipedia im guessing you ment 'gay....and to answer your question, no hes not..hes been married for quite a while now....there was a thread on this a couple of monthes back...btw,he is my favorite gnr drummer but man,now in my late 20-es,i can see how good is uyi albums. apetite rocks and everybody know that,but uyimuic is the best music which i ever heard uyi arernr art Wow, loads of people bagging on a guy who played on AFD! Well done. They guy might be messed up but hes achieved more in his life than I reckon most of you bashers have or will. Plus they got him on there because if they said 'we've got Frank from GNR on tonight' everyone would say 'Whos Frank from GNR? Leave the dude alone, his work on AFD is beyond great. lol.. Actually who is frank from Gn'R ? Did Brain bail too? lol... Good for him. Title: Re: Steven Adler on VH1 Post by: tomass74 on January 31, 2007, 07:55:54 AM I dont mean hate Matt literally like I wish he'd die and burn in hell. By saying I hate him just means Ive never been a fan of his,Maybe hate is too strong of word but u get the idea. Every interview or everytime I have ever heard Matt speak I just want to smack him. That's better.. I don't care for Matt either. Title: Re: Steven Adler on VH1 Post by: aimz on January 31, 2007, 08:05:00 AM youtube??? yeah youtube....the site where you can watch videos and stuff......is that possible cos i aint seen it.....sounds good thoughTitle: Steven Adler on TV Post by: axlslash4eva on February 01, 2007, 12:59:08 AM NOthing big but thought it was pretty cool, was watching the sureal life fame games on VH1 and 2 teams had to reck a hotel room and they had steven adler come out and be a judge it was pretty sick considering we havnt heard or seen much of him in awhile
Title: Re: Steven Adler on VH1 Post by: Stonerose on February 01, 2007, 04:50:46 AM I Love stevens drumming, hes one of my fav drummers ever. I hope Gnr reunite with steve on drums.
Title: Re: Steven Adler on VH1 Post by: AMS on February 01, 2007, 07:10:21 PM Steven Adler's groove is awesome. The catchiest drum beat ever has got to be Paradise City.
Yeah, you can't deny what Steven did for Guns. I just got done watching it on TV, I was all, "Wtf, is that Steven? And it was. I saw him back in January 2006, so I recognized him almost immediately although he looks so different than he did in 1987. Kinda cool, trashing a "room" in honor of GN'R. So I came on here to post it, but there was already a thread. : ok: Title: Re: Steven Adler on VH1 Post by: D on February 01, 2007, 07:21:29 PM Did u even watch the Rise of VR show?
He just acted so snobbish to the guys trying out like he was up on a superstar pedestal and they were beneath him and like in The "fall To Pieces" video, Its a real deep emotional song and video and Matt has to pretend to be a superpimp with his chicks in the corner........... I just don't care for him. It did piss me off on BTM when he acted like he was offended and like pissed cause GNR had pianos............ I signed up for a rock band not this.......... COME ON, he wasnt complaining cashing those fat checks was he? Just seemed so arrogant and ungrateful. Fuck if he didnt like the pianos he should've quit. Drummers of his ilk are highly replaceable. Title: Re: Steven Adler on VH1 Post by: Bodhi on February 02, 2007, 04:51:07 AM I really hate being classified a GNR fan with some of u on this forum who know jack fucking shit about this band even though u think u do. How can Brain and Frank and these fucking guys be better than the guy who has some of the greatest drumming ever Laid down on a fucking CD? Sayin this is almost as fucking dumb as sayin Bumble or Robin are better than Slash. Have u ever listened to Appetite For Destruction? I dont mean listen to Axl sing or Slash p lay guitar, I mean Really fucking listening to the CD where u hear everything. Steven has some of the greatest Drum riffs EVER.? His drumming u can actually sing a long with. He has some iconic fuckin Drumming ability. The drumming on the Illusions is nowhere on the level of AFD and nothing I have heard from Brain or Frank live measure up to Adler's brilliance. I hate Steven Adler with a passion. I think he is a piece of shit washed up loser who blames everyone but himself for his problems BUT I REFUSE to discredit what an amazing drummer and what a great contribution he made to one of the greatest albums ever made. So called GNR fans need to show this guy's skill some Fucking Respect and need a lesson on GNR history. YOU are going to give ME a lesson in GNR history....I would love to hear this lesson coming from someone who thinks Steven Adler is the greatest drummer in the history of GNR....Dude he was a mediocre drummer...EVERYONE knows that...Part of the reason Axl re-recorded "Appetite" in the late 90's was to get rid of the drum parts...which he said sounded "too 80's"...Sorum, Brian and Frank have all played his drum parts from the "Appetite" songs better than he did...and now he is pimping himself out on VH1 with Vanilla Ice and Ron Jeremy...he makes me want to throw up.... Title: Re: Steven Adler on VH1 Post by: snakepiter on February 02, 2007, 10:37:17 AM here you will find the link to the steven adler bit...http://www.vh1.com/vspot/player.jhtml?id=1550631&launchedFrom=/search/search.jhtml
Title: Re: Steven Adler on VH1 Post by: D on February 02, 2007, 05:55:06 PM I really hate being classified a GNR fan with some of u on this forum who know jack fucking shit about this band even though u think u do. How can Brain and Frank and these fucking guys be better than the guy who has some of the greatest drumming ever Laid down on a fucking CD? Sayin this is almost as fucking dumb as sayin Bumble or Robin are better than Slash. Have u ever listened to Appetite For Destruction? I dont mean listen to Axl sing or Slash p lay guitar, I mean Really fucking listening to the CD where u hear everything. Steven has some of the greatest Drum riffs EVER.? His drumming u can actually sing a long with. He has some iconic fuckin Drumming ability. The drumming on the Illusions is nowhere on the level of AFD and nothing I have heard from Brain or Frank live measure up to Adler's brilliance. I hate Steven Adler with a passion. I think he is a piece of shit washed up loser who blames everyone but himself for his problems BUT I REFUSE to discredit what an amazing drummer and what a great contribution he made to one of the greatest albums ever made. So called GNR fans need to show this guy's skill some Fucking Respect and need a lesson on GNR history. YOU are going to give ME a lesson in GNR history....I would love to hear this lesson coming from someone who thinks Steven Adler is the greatest drummer in the history of GNR....Dude he was a mediocre drummer...EVERYONE knows that...Part of the reason Axl re-recorded "Appetite" in the late 90's was to get rid of the drum parts...which he said sounded "too 80's"...Sorum, Brian and Frank have all played his drum parts from the "Appetite" songs better than he did...and now he is pimping himself out on VH1 with Vanilla Ice and Ron Jeremy...he makes me want to throw up....? Part of the reason he re-recorded appetite? U show me that fucking interview where Axl says this and Ill delete my fucking account. U are making THAT bullshit up. His drumming sounded too 80's? What the fuck kind of comment is that? That is retarded. Title: Re: Steven Adler on VH1 Post by: torqued on February 02, 2007, 07:02:43 PM I really hate being classified a GNR fan with some of u on this forum who know jack fucking shit about this band even though u think u do. How can Brain and Frank and these fucking guys be better than the guy who has some of the greatest drumming ever Laid down on a fucking CD? Sayin this is almost as fucking dumb as sayin Bumble or Robin are better than Slash. Have u ever listened to Appetite For Destruction? I dont mean listen to Axl sing or Slash p lay guitar, I mean Really fucking listening to the CD where u hear everything. Steven has some of the greatest Drum riffs EVER.? His drumming u can actually sing a long with. He has some iconic fuckin Drumming ability. The drumming on the Illusions is nowhere on the level of AFD and nothing I have heard from Brain or Frank live measure up to Adler's brilliance. I hate Steven Adler with a passion. I think he is a piece of shit washed up loser who blames everyone but himself for his problems BUT I REFUSE to discredit what an amazing drummer and what a great contribution he made to one of the greatest albums ever made. So called GNR fans need to show this guy's skill some Fucking Respect and need a lesson on GNR history. YOU are going to give ME a lesson in GNR history....I would love to hear this lesson coming from someone who thinks Steven Adler is the greatest drummer in the history of GNR....Dude he was a mediocre drummer...EVERYONE knows that...Part of the reason Axl re-recorded "Appetite" in the late 90's was to get rid of the drum parts...which he said sounded "too 80's"...Sorum, Brian and Frank have all played his drum parts from the "Appetite" songs better than he did...and now he is pimping himself out on VH1 with Vanilla Ice and Ron Jeremy...he makes me want to throw up....? Part of the reason he re-recorded appetite? U show me that fucking interview where Axl says this and Ill delete my fucking account. U are making THAT bullshit up. His drumming sounded too 80's? What the fuck kind of comment is that? That is retarded. Axl did say that.I think it was the Kurt Loder interview but i'm not sure. Title: Re: Steven Adler on VH1 Post by: torqued on February 02, 2007, 07:09:45 PM http://qfg.info/axlinterview.html
Rose: No, no, that's not true at all. In fact, actually, I have re-recorded "Appetite" and -- Loder: You re-recorded "Appetite For Destruction?" Rose: Yes, I have. Loder: The whole album? Rose: Yes. Loder: Whoa. Rose: Well, with the exception of two songs, because we replaced those with "You Could Be Mine," and "Patience," and why do that? Well, we had to rehearse them anyway to be able to perform them live again, and there were a lot of recording techniques and certain subtle styles and drum fills and things like that that are kind of '80s signatures that subtly could use a little sprucing up... a little less reverb and a little less double bass and things like that Title: Re: Steven Adler on VH1 Post by: Robman? on February 02, 2007, 07:25:34 PM youtube??? yeah youtube....the site where you can watch videos and stuff......is that possible cos i aint seen it.....sounds good thoughthats a creative URL :hihi: Title: Re: Steven Adler on VH1 Post by: D on February 03, 2007, 02:07:17 AM That Axl interview was in no way implying Steven was "Mediocre"
Nice try, he just wanted to change things. Still yet, if u heard the new recorded, I guarantee it doesn't come close to the original. Title: Re: Steven Adler on VH1 Post by: Bodhi on February 03, 2007, 02:37:04 AM http://qfg.info/axlinterview.html Rose: No, no, that's not true at all. In fact, actually, I have re-recorded "Appetite" and -- Loder: You re-recorded "Appetite For Destruction?" Rose: Yes, I have. Loder: The whole album? Rose: Yes. Loder: Whoa. Rose: Well, with the exception of two songs, because we replaced those with "You Could Be Mine," and "Patience," and why do that? Well, we had to rehearse them anyway to be able to perform them live again, and there were a lot of recording techniques and certain subtle styles and drum fills and things like that that are kind of '80s signatures that subtly could use a little sprucing up... a little less reverb and a little less double bass and things like that so D, when are you deleting your account? you said Axl did not say they sounded "too 80's"...looks like he did say that...just like I said....thanks torqued for pulling that up by the way and saving me the trouble....great drum parts dont need to be spruced up do they? Title: Re: Steven Adler on VH1 Post by: Grouse on February 03, 2007, 06:17:04 AM so D, when are you deleting your account? you said Axl did not say they sounded "too 80's"...looks like he did say that...just like I said....thanks torqued for pulling that up by the way and saving me the trouble....great drum parts dont need to be spruced up do they? How anyone can argue that the other gnr drummers are better than steven is beyond me, they all lack a certain groove/feeling that steven had. *Edit: Thnx snakepitter for the link ;D Title: Re: Steven Adler on VH1 Post by: gnrfanxxx on February 03, 2007, 10:42:49 AM ya, steven was the best, when he left izzy left and then the whole thing went to hell :nervous:
Title: Re: Steven Adler on VH1 Post by: DaBrookman on February 03, 2007, 03:50:39 PM http://qfg.info/axlinterview.html Rose: No, no, that's not true at all. In fact, actually, I have re-recorded "Appetite" and -- Loder: You re-recorded "Appetite For Destruction?" Rose: Yes, I have. Loder: The whole album? Rose: Yes. Loder: Whoa. Rose: Well, with the exception of two songs, because we replaced those with "You Could Be Mine," and "Patience," and why do that? Well, we had to rehearse them anyway to be able to perform them live again, and there were a lot of recording techniques and certain subtle styles and drum fills and things like that that are kind of '80s signatures that subtly could use a little sprucing up... a little less reverb and a little less double bass and things like that That's weird - there's no double bass on Appetite. Title: Re: Steven Adler on VH1 Post by: D on February 03, 2007, 08:09:25 PM U guys ac ted like Axl said Adler was mediocre and the drums sucked and this and that.
Axl said some parts could use a little this or that but in NO way did he suggest Adler was mediocre or a shit drummer. I guess Slash's solos in PC and SCOM should be redone also since they are too 80's? I love Axl but he was an absolute fucking moron with that statement. How can something sound TOO 80's or TOO anything. AFD is a timeless masterpiece and he shouldn't fuck with it either. I find the fact that he would waste so much time re doing that kind of sad and pathetic. As if he hoped having the new members re-record Appetite would make them better players and figure out how to write great songs themselves. Title: Re: Steven Adler on VH1 Post by: AMS on February 03, 2007, 08:43:17 PM Axl is an egomaniac now. It started during 1989, and it grew during the Illusions. He is whacked out of his mind now.
All the original GN'R members are fine now except for him and Steven. Steven blew a (what was it, $2 million?) royalties check from AFD on drugs. Even though his drumming was irreplacable on AFD, he is kind of a loser NOW. But back then, he was my favorite member. Axl doesn't know what he's doing messing with the original GN'R material. He had the original "It's So Easy" music video, in which he punches out Erin Everly,? mastertapes destroyed in fears of getting sued. He re-recored Welcome To The Jungle for the Live Era CD. And either Axl or the record company, probably Axl, got rid of the original Sweet Child Of Mine video, and made a black and white one, which was completely cheesy.? And by the way, Steven Adler in the AFD era was the perfect drummer for GN'R. Without Steven Adler there would probably be no Slash. He taught Slash his first chords, and started Road Crew with him. Title: Re: Steven Adler on VH1 Post by: aimz on February 06, 2007, 07:44:41 AM here you will find the link to the steven adler bit...http://www.vh1.com/vspot/player.jhtml?id=1550631&launchedFrom=/search/search.jhtml cant get it in my country......Title: Re: Steven Adler on VH1 Post by: mrlee on February 06, 2007, 11:19:34 AM all these fags bashing old gnr members suck ass.
Read these words Without Them You Wouldnt Have Any form Of GNR youd have hollywood rose, who wouldnt get anywhere cause traci went into like 50 other bands. Title: Re: Steven Adler on VH1 Post by: -Jack- on February 06, 2007, 01:02:00 PM I really hate being classified a GNR fan with some of u on this forum who know jack fucking shit about this band even though u think u do. How can Brain and Frank and these fucking guys be better than the guy who has some of the greatest drumming ever Laid down on a fucking CD? Sayin this is almost as fucking dumb as sayin Bumble or Robin are better than Slash. Have u ever listened to Appetite For Destruction? I dont mean listen to Axl sing or Slash p lay guitar, I mean Really fucking listening to the CD where u hear everything. Steven has some of the greatest Drum riffs EVER. His drumming u can actually sing a long with. He has some iconic fuckin Drumming ability. The drumming on the Illusions is nowhere on the level of AFD and nothing I have heard from Brain or Frank live measure up to Adler's brilliance. I hate Steven Adler with a passion. I think he is a piece of shit washed up loser who blames everyone but himself for his problems BUT I REFUSE to discredit what an amazing drummer and what a great contribution he made to one of the greatest albums ever made. So called GNR fans need to show this guy's skill some Fucking Respect and need a lesson on GNR history. YOU are going to give ME a lesson in GNR history....I would love to hear this lesson coming from someone who thinks Steven Adler is the greatest drummer in the history of GNR....Dude he was a mediocre drummer...EVERYONE knows that...Part of the reason Axl re-recorded "Appetite" in the late 90's was to get rid of the drum parts...which he said sounded "too 80's"...Sorum, Brian and Frank have all played his drum parts from the "Appetite" songs better than he did...and now he is pimping himself out on VH1 with Vanilla Ice and Ron Jeremy...he makes me want to throw up.... Adler's drumming on AFD is great. Way better than Sorum could ever do. Listen to his drumming on Contraband.. ew.. even on the UYI records.. sounds like a robot is hitting the drums on a bunch of the songs. Don't see how you can hate on a drummer with a great groove like Adler. And dude your "Axl must agree with me too because he wanted to re-record AFD" comment lacks logic. He wanted to re-record ALL of AFD. Does that mean he hated Slash's work too? All he said was that he wanted to get rid of some of the reverb and double bass. Was he gonna tell Loder EVERYTHING they were gonna do to re-record it? No. He just told him something off the top of his head. And even then, that's a production complaint... he doesn't like the way it was mixed and produced. Doesn't comment on Steven's playing ability at all. Adler > Sorum Sorum = Drum Machine As for the new GN'R drummers.. Brain and Frank. They kill Sorum too. Probably better than Adler too... but even then, Adler put his own touch on Appetite and it's a classic partly because of the groove he and Duff gave to the rythm section. Just admit it, you're a Adler hater for no reason. : ok: Quote and now he is pimping himself out on VH1 with Vanilla Ice and Ron Jeremy...he makes me want to throw up.... Because you never see Slash on those cheesy 100 Best *Insert something here* VH1 countdowns? Or VW commercials? Or http://www.heretodaygonetohell.com/board/index.php?topic=42730.0? The face of some trendy clothing line. Way to go guys! Title: Re: Steven Adler on VH1 Post by: Grouse on February 06, 2007, 02:44:37 PM Because you never see Slash on those cheesy 100 Best *Insert something here* VH1 countdowns? Or VW commercials? Or http://www.heretodaygonetohell.com/board/index.php?topic=42730.0? The face of some trendy clothing line. Way to go guys! Yeah and ofcourse you'll never see axl doing anything like that.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0jVqCL9mkwo Title: Re: Steven Adler on VH1 Post by: Tonrey on February 06, 2007, 08:11:57 PM Adler is an amazing, amazing drummer. I want some more music from him.
Title: Re: Steven Adler on VH1 Post by: -Jack- on February 06, 2007, 09:23:03 PM Because you never see Slash on those cheesy 100 Best *Insert something here* VH1 countdowns? Or VW commercials? Or http://www.heretodaygonetohell.com/board/index.php?topic=42730.0? The face of some trendy clothing line. Way to go guys! Yeah and ofcourse you'll never see axl doing anything like that.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0jVqCL9mkwo Not only has Axl done that.. but he's pimped out WTTJ for GTA:SA.... I'm sure he's done more too. I just assumed this guy was a Slash lover or something. Everybody has "sold out" and for him to criticize Adler for doing it is incredibly stupid. Title: Re: Steven Adler on VH1 Post by: guns_n_motley on February 06, 2007, 09:45:33 PM Did u even watch the Rise of VR show? He just acted so snobbish to the guys trying out like he was up on a superstar pedestal and they were beneath him and like in The "fall To Pieces" video, Its a real deep emotional song and video and Matt has to pretend to be a superpimp with his chicks in the corner........... I just don't care for him. It did piss me off on BTM when he acted like he was offended and like pissed cause GNR had pianos............ I signed up for a rock band not this.......... COME ON, he wasnt complaining cashing those fat checks was he?? Just seemed so arrogant and ungrateful. Fuck if he didnt like the pianos he should've quit. Drummers of his ilk are highly replaceable. what about when they were picking singers, and he acted like he knew more than duff/slash about it. he comes off whiny to me... I BET adler will be on the next surreal life. you can count on it. Title: Re: Steven Adler on VH1 Post by: guns_n_motley on February 06, 2007, 09:50:09 PM OH and btw, those saying sorum is better than adler must be on something!! Adler played with groove. Sorum plays like a robot. when I listen to anything he does, I can tell "hes gonna do a crash right now" he does stuff in the SAME place and pretty much plays the SAME BEAT..
adler had groove. Title: Re: Steven Adler on VH1 Post by: Grouse on February 07, 2007, 06:15:14 AM Yeah and ofcourse you'll never see axl doing anything like that.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0jVqCL9mkwo Not only has Axl done that.. but he's pimped out WTTJ for GTA:SA.... I'm sure he's done more too. I just assumed this guy was a Slash lover or something. Everybody has "sold out" and for him to criticize Adler for doing it is incredibly stupid. And I assumed you were just another mindless axl follower hehe guess I was wrong, let's stop assuming? ;)... I agree with your post that everyone has "sold out" and that it's stupid to criticize adler for doing it and to be honest I could't care less if they "sold out" or not 'cause as long as the music is good they can do whatever they want... Title: Re: Steven Adler on VH1 Post by: -Jack- on February 07, 2007, 12:32:03 PM Yeah and ofcourse you'll never see axl doing anything like that.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0jVqCL9mkwo Not only has Axl done that.. but he's pimped out WTTJ for GTA:SA.... I'm sure he's done more too. I just assumed this guy was a Slash lover or something. Everybody has "sold out" and for him to criticize Adler for doing it is incredibly stupid. And I assumed you were just another mindless axl follower hehe guess I was wrong, let's stop assuming ;)... I agree with your post that everyone has "sold out" and that it's stupid to criticize adler for doing it and to be honest I could't care less if they "sold out" or not 'cause as long as the music is good they can do whatever they want... Lol yeah assuming can be stupid sometimes eh? And yeah that's what I was getting at. Everyone has sold out.. so who cares? If Adler wants to show up on Surreal Life and hang out on VH1.. let him. I have no idea what the guy is like personally and would enjoy to see it more. Hell.. the show made me think Vanilla Ice is cool.. (and he is!) Point is.. he's a great drummer.. lots of rythm and swing. I don't see how people can think plod and clod Sorum is better. But each to his own I guess. Title: Re: Steven Adler on VH1 Post by: Bodhi on February 07, 2007, 02:49:08 PM OH and btw, those saying sorum is better than adler must be on something!! Adler played with groove. Sorum plays like a robot. when I listen to anything he does, I can tell "hes gonna do a crash right now" he does stuff in the SAME place and pretty much plays the SAME BEAT.. adler had groove. yeah adler had groove...it was called 5 pounds of coke and a case of vodka in his system.... Title: Re: Steven Adler on VH1 Post by: luciano on February 07, 2007, 03:53:42 PM ****
Adler had a great groove. Probably he still has it; :) His drumming was (is) catchy. He was (is) GREAT. :D Yeah, Matt is more of a machine-like drummer. :hihi: I liked the robot comparison. :rofl: It fits. But he is good anyway. I also like the kids that don't know shit about Adler and his playing and like to talk shit about him. It is funny how easy it is to bad talk a drug addict. And since these kids can NOT bad talk Adler for his drumming they always say something about "coke" and "heroin" and "drugs" to put Adler down. :drool: These are the same kids that would take Use Your Illusion to a desert island, because they think that November Rain and Estranged are the greatest GNR songs. I'd take one Nightrain to that island with an Appetite for Destruction under my arm. Oh, I would definetely manage to smuggle some GNR bootlegs circa 1986-89. Adler time. Izzy time. Good fuckin' times! Luciano **** Title: Re: Steven Adler on VH1 Post by: pugdog1987 on February 08, 2007, 07:35:27 PM **** I also like the kids that don't know shit about Adler and his playing and like to talk shit about him. It is funny how easy it is to bad talk a drug addict. And since these kids can NOT bad talk Adler for his drumming they always say something about "coke" and "heroin" and "drugs" to put Adler down.? How is the following for a reason not to like Steven . . . ? : ok: Former Guns 'N Roses drummer Steven Adler was sentenced to 150 days in jail on Thursday for attacking two women in separate domestic violence incidents, which also violates his probation from a 1997 conviction in another domestic violence case. He pled no contest to two counts of battery in a dating relationship and admitted the probation violation in West Los Angeles Municipal Court. Adler was also sentenced to three years of summary probation, with the conditions of undergoing a year of domestic violence counseling and a ban on using illegal drugs. Additionally, a protective order was issued by Commissioner Joseph S. Biderman in respect to both victims. Adler is required to turn himself in to the court at 1:45 p.m. on October 29 to begin serving his sentence or show proof that he's turned himself into a city jail. The two incidents in question occurred on January 27 and on June 7, respectively. The first erupted from a verbal argument spawned between Adler and a 43-year-old woman in his North Hollywood apartment over his alleged drug use. The victim was allegedly thrown against walls and furniture during the attack. She called 911 for assistance, however, Adler had already left the premises and couldn't be located at the time. He was eventually found in the spring, living in a condominium in Century City, California, where he was taken into custody on an arrest warrant regarding a probation violation. He was then booked and released after posting bail. The warrant had been issued in August of 1997 for failing to appear in court for a February of 1997 domestic violence case, which involved the woman he was living with at the time. In the 1997 case, Adler pled no contest to disturbing the peace and was sentenced to four days in jail. He was also placed on three years of summary probation, with a condition of attending 52 Alcoholics Anonymous meetings. In the spring arrest, Adler was charged with this probation violation as well as for the January incident. While he was awaiting his trial, he allegedly attacked another woman at his condominium on June 7. Adler allegedly pushed the 35-year-old woman's head into a wall and threw her clothes off a balcony during a dispute over money.? (Wikpedia) This is the way Steven conducts his personal life, pretty fucked up! Title: Re: Steven Adler on VH1 Post by: dafflovesaxl on February 09, 2007, 06:12:49 AM Hi well I like Steve Adler and unfortunately I cant view the VH1 cause Im in the UK and even online it wouldnt let me view the link that someone kindly pasted in the adler forum. Damn. Maybe in time technology will advance a bit more.
Earlier on in this thread some people were running Adler and each other down (I havent read all through it, aint got time). In his defence, I agree with the ones who said leave the guy alone, at the same time I know we all like to have a bit of a conflab on these threads so I dont read too much into it, I am sure Steve doesn't either, if he even bothers looking. ;) Sometimes I wish I knew Steve and could be his close mate but hey, I guess I live a wee bit too far away for that lol. I for one wish Steve all the best in what he does, and all of you guys take care too, have a great weekend. Hopefully I will get time this weekend to suss out my multitracker (not losing my rag of course, not !!). ;D Title: Re: Steven Adler on VH1 Post by: luciano on February 09, 2007, 08:09:02 AM How is the following for a reason not to like Steven . . . ? : ok: Former Guns 'N Roses drummer Steven Adler was sentenced to 150 days in jail on Thursday for attacking two women in separate domestic violence incidents. (...) I couldn't care less about his personal life. People make mistakes. Specially Rock n' Roll people. As far as I know, in some point of their life Axl and Izzy also have been accused of beating on women. That's fuckep up. Some of my favourite musicians have done lots of stupid things in their personal life. As long as they don't kill someone or really hurt someone, I just don't care. What I care about is the music, and Steven's music is GREAT! Title: Re: Steven Adler on VH1 Post by: pugdog1987 on February 09, 2007, 12:05:09 PM Okay, so are you saying that since he's a musician it is okay to hurt other people, their families and mess with their lives? My feeling is that no one should be able to do that. Yes he was a great drummer for GnR, but as far as being a great human being. . . ?
What I want to say to you is, do you think it is right to talk about other people because of their views of Steven? Let's face it, you have yours, I have mine and they have theirs. Title: Re: Steven Adler on VH1 Post by: -Jack- on February 09, 2007, 12:51:18 PM **** I also like the kids that don't know shit about Adler and his playing and like to talk shit about him. It is funny how easy it is to bad talk a drug addict. And since these kids can NOT bad talk Adler for his drumming they always say something about "coke" and "heroin" and "drugs" to put Adler down. How is the following for a reason not to like Steven . . . ? : ok: Former Guns 'N Roses drummer Steven Adler was sentenced to 150 days in jail on Thursday for attacking two women in separate domestic violence incidents, which also violates his probation from a 1997 conviction in another domestic violence case. He pled no contest to two counts of battery in a dating relationship and admitted the probation violation in West Los Angeles Municipal Court. Adler was also sentenced to three years of summary probation, with the conditions of undergoing a year of domestic violence counseling and a ban on using illegal drugs. Additionally, a protective order was issued by Commissioner Joseph S. Biderman in respect to both victims. Adler is required to turn himself in to the court at 1:45 p.m. on October 29 to begin serving his sentence or show proof that he's turned himself into a city jail. The two incidents in question occurred on January 27 and on June 7, respectively. The first erupted from a verbal argument spawned between Adler and a 43-year-old woman in his North Hollywood apartment over his alleged drug use. The victim was allegedly thrown against walls and furniture during the attack. She called 911 for assistance, however, Adler had already left the premises and couldn't be located at the time. He was eventually found in the spring, living in a condominium in Century City, California, where he was taken into custody on an arrest warrant regarding a probation violation. He was then booked and released after posting bail. The warrant had been issued in August of 1997 for failing to appear in court for a February of 1997 domestic violence case, which involved the woman he was living with at the time. In the 1997 case, Adler pled no contest to disturbing the peace and was sentenced to four days in jail. He was also placed on three years of summary probation, with a condition of attending 52 Alcoholics Anonymous meetings. In the spring arrest, Adler was charged with this probation violation as well as for the January incident. While he was awaiting his trial, he allegedly attacked another woman at his condominium on June 7. Adler allegedly pushed the 35-year-old woman's head into a wall and threw her clothes off a balcony during a dispute over money. (Wikpedia) This is the way Steven conducts his personal life, pretty fucked up! So do you hate fucking Axl? He's been accused of worse. You just hate Adler cause you're a punk! Everyone in GN'R has done stupid shit. Axl has beat women (and if you read about his court case with Stephanie Seymour you'd know he did MUCH worse/weird things than Adler) http://www.heretodaygonetohell.com/articles/showarticle.php?articleid=32 Izzy has been accused of hitting women and was an adict. Slash was an adict. Duff had a serious drinking problem and was an adict. The point is that you know nothing about Adler besides some civil court case you read up about. I don't hate any member of GN'R based off something I read or don't know for sure. What I do know for sure is that Sorum's drumming and attitude seem nothing special to me.. and I know that for sure. Title: Re: Steven Adler on VH1 Post by: luciano on February 10, 2007, 10:30:45 AM ********
Okay, so are you saying that since he's a musician it is okay to hurt other people, their families and mess with their lives? My feeling is that no one should be able to do that. Yes he was a great drummer for GnR, but as far as being a great human being. . . ? What I want to say to you is, do you think it is right to talk about other people because of their views of Steven? Let's face it, you have yours, I have mine and they have theirs. Sure you have your view and I have mine. But OBVIOUSLY I am NOT saying it is okay to hurt people and stuff. Of course it is NOT OK. It is stupid and people who do that should be punished. But when I listen to music, I am not looking for great human beings. I can find great human beings in my home and when I am with my friends. They are great human beings. What I am saying is that it is pretty stupid to bad talk Steven because of drugs or misbehavior. We all know (well, maybe some of you guys DO NOT KNOW) that ALL the guys in GNR did similar or WORSE stuff, just like -Jack- pointed out on his thread. (-Jack-, I couldn't have said it better). It is a very known thing that disturbed people (that sometimes happen to be alcoholics & junkies) can sometimes do great music. Guns n' Roses is a perfect example. I don't think there were as many disturbed people as Axl was. And I could go on and do a list for you: Dee Dee Ramone, Bon Scott, Keith Richards, Johnny Thunders, Aerosmith... These guys were fucked up on alcohol and drugs for years and yet they made great music. If being a great human had anything to do with great music, we would be listening to Martin Luther King greatest hits, The Nelson Mandella's Experience, and etc... Luciano ************** Title: Re: Steven Adler on VH1 Post by: dafflovesaxl on February 10, 2007, 03:47:49 PM Good point made by Pugdog. So have any of you guys or girls had any dealings with Steve Adler recently, now he is older I am assuming he has calmed down somewhat but not knowing him I dont know that.
Talking of people doing stupid things, I have done some pretty stupid things in my time, same as us all in one way or another, we wouldnt be human. Rock stars, unfortunately are noticed more for this and of course media make a lot more of it than it really is. I wouldnt say no to a fling with Axl or Steve (not both at the same time lol), but I would say no to violent behaviour towards me, been there, sorted it out and moved on but it isnt nice when it happens to you so I do sympathise with anyone who has endured it. Right Ive waffled enough now, take care, Daff xx Title: Re: Steven Adler on VH1 Post by: IzzyDutch on February 10, 2007, 04:02:58 PM Well I agree with Jack's and Luciano's post.. no suprise there :P
Title: Re: Steven Adler on VH1 Post by: pugdog1987 on February 12, 2007, 01:23:33 PM Well I agree with Jack's and Luciano's post.. no suprise there :P IzzyDutch - Of course, absolutely, no surprise there - they could have said that the sky was falling and you would agree, if only to disagree with me. And as I told Jack, I don't talk trash about the other guys because I do not know them. I only knew Steven. And IzzyD, if you take a moment to read the Wikpedia chapter, please note that I am the woman first mentioned - the one that Steven lived with. You are always telling people that I am this old broad that was only with Steven for 3 months. In fact, that is the second woman mentioned in the chapter. She lived in the same building as Steven in North Hollylwood. So, I am hoping - only hoping - that you will get your facts straight and stop making statements about me that are untrue - true of someone else, but that is not me. Title: Re: Steven Adler on VH1 Post by: IzzyDutch on February 12, 2007, 02:15:02 PM Well I agree with Jack's and Luciano's post.. no suprise there :P IzzyDutch - Of course, absolutely, no surprise there - they could have said that the sky was falling and you would agree, if only to disagree with me.? And as I told Jack, I don't talk trash about the other guys because I do not know them.? I only knew Steven.? And IzzyD, if you take a moment to read the Wikpedia chapter, please note that I am the woman first mentioned - the one that Steven lived with.? You are always telling people that I am this old broad that was only with Steven for 3 months.? In fact, that is the second woman mentioned in the chapter.? She lived in the same building as Steven in North Hollylwood.? So, I am hoping - only hoping - that you will get your facts straight and stop making statements about me that are untrue - true of someone else, but that is not me.? I knew you would reply on my short post! I bet you've missed me ;) As for this line: Quote You are always telling people that I am this old broad that was only with Steven for 3 months.? In fact, that's me repeating what other people have said to me who know Steven - I'm sure you know who.? But I'm not gonna get into this whole thing again, Jack and Luciano have said it well. Quote And IzzyD, if you take a moment to read the Wikpedia chapter blah blah So, I am hoping - only hoping - that you will get your facts straight and stop making statements about me that are untrue - true of someone else, but that is not me That's nice you begin about this but I haven't even spoken to you in several months now on this board so stop coming up with that kind of shit and respond properly to Jack and Luciano's post! Title: Re: Steven Adler on VH1 Post by: pugdog1987 on February 12, 2007, 03:13:00 PM Izzy D - I too knew you wouldn't be able to resist responding to my posts.?
With regard to Luciano and Jack - please know that I will handle responses to posts the way I see fit.? You are correct in stating, however, that you and I have not corresponded in months, but you have responded to posts of others by talking trash about me and frankly I do get tired of you making untrue statements about me - even if your defense is that you heard it from someone else - yes I know who he is and his claims to be a close, personal friend of Steven's.? ? ? Title: Re: Steven Adler on VH1 Post by: dafflovesaxl on February 13, 2007, 07:35:42 AM I think a lot of threads are misinterpretated - having read through them I can agree, and disagree with points that each and every one of you have put. We all have opinions and have our own ways of voicing them. Afterall, be pretty boring if we all had the same opinions and ideas wouldnt it.
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