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Title: Format of the New Video??
Post by: RoCoKiN on January 22, 2007, 09:58:26 AM
Well, hopefully we will be seeing a new video surface in the next couple of months so what I'm wondering is what kind of video do you think it will be or hope it will be?  Will it be a collection of live footage like Live and Let Die and Dead Horse; will it be story driven like November Rain or Estranged; or will it be obscure and artsy and filled with symbollic images?  Personally, I don't care what it is like as long as Axl doesn't lip sync to the camera with over dramatic looks and melancholy expressions like we see in alot of videos these days!


Title: Re: Format of the New Video??
Post by: rds.06 on January 22, 2007, 10:06:43 AM
Well, hopefully we will be seeing a new video surface in the next couple of months so what I'm wondering is what kind of video do you think it will be or hope it will be?? Will it be a collection of live footage like Live and Let Die and Dead Horse; will it be story driven like November Rain or Estranged; or will it be obscure and artsy and filled with symbollic images?? Personally, I don't care what it is like as long as Axl doesn't lip sync to the camera with over dramatic looks and melancholy expressions like we see in alot of videos these days!

After all this time i think axl might have something good planned. The only thing that concerns me is the money available for this, i dont how much the label would be willing to cough up, unless axl funds it himself. We need something amazing to get the music worlds attention, but it could be live footage if there is no budget. ;D 


Title: Re: Format of the New Video??
Post by: nonlinear on January 22, 2007, 01:07:16 PM
i don't even really need to see a video.  they are kinda outdated these days, and it's not necessary for bands to make videos like it was in the 80s and 90s.  one example that i can think of off the top of my head is radiohead's kid a and amnesiac album, for which no videos were made.  (actually i think there was a video made for idioteque after the fact, but didn't coincide with that album).   instead, they made a bunch of short animated 'blips' and distributed them in weird ways, like online.


Title: Re: Format of the New Video??
Post by: madagas on January 22, 2007, 01:10:25 PM
And neither album sold platinum.... ::) I love Radiohead but that time period for them was very anti promotion anti sales friendly persona.


Title: Re: Format of the New Video??
Post by: von on January 22, 2007, 01:16:30 PM
Tool's 10,000 Days was also released without a video and has to this point still no promotional videos to its credit. It was most recently on its way or has most likely passed at this point and is awaiting double-platinum certification here in the States. I'm not saying I don't want a video from GN'R, or that a video wouldn't help. But as was said before, the era of videos is pretty much dead or dying. They're dated now. Videos are for hip hop, pop, and emo shit. Rock n' roll and metal bands don't need or frequently even have videos anymore. When the main catalyst for having such videos in the first place is in a position where they virtually refuse to play videos anymore, and the only other alternatives are to be somehow crammed into a "rock" themed show on another channel solely devoted to the music of effeminate "hardcore" boys and masculine "emo" girls, is it best to forgo videos altogether? We'll see. Axl seems to have maintained something of a positive relationship with MTV all these years, not that that's necessarily something to be proud of. Not even NIN really makes videos anymore.


Title: Re: Format of the New Video??
Post by: Nytunz on January 22, 2007, 01:29:08 PM
yeah, it seams like it is more "in the time" to release concerts DVD`s and stuff like that, some time after the album. But, alot of
bands still make music videos.. and im sure GnR will make a couple to.. But i think a DVD with alot of snacks would be awsome  : ok:


Title: Re: Format of the New Video??
Post by: Soori on January 22, 2007, 01:32:52 PM
a video wouldnt be a bad thing...they mite create one video.


Title: Re: Format of the New Video??
Post by: nonlinear on January 22, 2007, 01:57:58 PM
And neither album sold platinum.... ::) I love Radiohead but that time period for them was very anti promotion anti sales friendly persona.


sales aren't everything, and I really admire radiohead for recognizing this and not "selling out' like corporate whores.  commercial music sucks (and the cost and delay of this new GNR record is a great big "fuck you" to corporate rock. 

anyhow, there are many many highly influential records that never sold shit, examples the stooges raw power and the velvet underground and nico.


Title: Re: Format of the New Video??
Post by: madagas on January 22, 2007, 02:09:20 PM
Agree. I would love Axl to go in the direction of Radiohead. However, for him to do that, Chinese needs to sell. The only reason I care if it sells is so that we can get another record from the new band. Trust me, I don't care if there is a video or not. I just want a cool album. : ok:


Title: Re: Format of the New Video??
Post by: GNR4L on January 22, 2007, 02:22:10 PM
Ok one of the greatest rock bands is making a comeback and some people are saying they don't really need a video ??? LOL funniest thing i've heard of course you need a video or else the thing won't sell.  They put out a single with no video equals DOOM now I don't know why this is even being brought up cause Axl said in his letter there will be a video.  My guess its either gonna be live footage or some kind of storyline, i'd prefer storyline but i'd take anything im so excited its gonna be a great year for rock music.


Title: Re: Format of the New Video??
Post by: dizzy68 on January 22, 2007, 02:25:11 PM

 A video would be great. But let's see if he can even manage to release the music first. One step at a time.


Title: Re: Format of the New Video??
Post by: nonlinear on January 22, 2007, 02:32:37 PM
well i dunno, videos are what ruined pop music.  as soon as videos came on the scene, music moved towards looking and acting cool and trendy, as opposed to making great music.  videos are for kids.  honestly, i don't give a fuck what a band looks like or how they dress, it's the music that matters.

and i really don't care how much this album sells.  it seems like 95% of people on this board want GNR to become massive sell outs again, so they can look cool at school because they listened to GNR first.

Personally, I prefer it when bands are a bit more obscure.  then you get opportunities to see them up close and personal in venues like Hammerstein.


Title: Re: Format of the New Video??
Post by: dizzy68 on January 22, 2007, 02:35:09 PM
 Videos just arn't what they once were anyway. When I was growing up M-TV was the biggest thing. Now they don't even play Videos anymore! Same thing with VH-1. The only place I can find videos on my cable system is M-TV 2 and I don't think most cable systems even carry that channel.


Title: Re: Format of the New Video??
Post by: Rockin' Rose on January 22, 2007, 02:57:55 PM
I have a feeling that Axl has a story to tell, something he is going to tell by the songs and videos that carry the themes of the songs.


Title: Re: Format of the New Video??
Post by: DunkinDave on January 22, 2007, 03:51:52 PM
Axl said in the Eddie Trunk interview that he thought the old videos were cheesy, but he enjoyed filming them.


Title: Re: Format of the New Video??
Post by: jimb0 on January 22, 2007, 07:36:14 PM
I want dolphins or him jumping in to find the monkey


Title: Re: Format of the New Video??
Post by: dizzy68 on January 22, 2007, 09:39:45 PM
I want dolphins or him jumping in to find the monkey

 Any Video with a Monkey is instantly cool!   :hihi:


Title: Re: Format of the New Video??
Post by: RJ1221 on January 22, 2007, 09:55:01 PM
you need a video now adays to get exposure


Title: Re: Format of the New Video??
Post by: Saul on January 22, 2007, 10:11:41 PM
I think it's obvious there will be videos based on axl's letter after firing Merck.


Title: Re: Format of the New Video??
Post by: Loaded NightraiN on January 22, 2007, 10:42:02 PM
I think it's obvious there will be videos based on axl's letter after firing Merck.

Agreed....

Some albums can work w/o a video.. Not this one!


Title: Re: Format of the New Video??
Post by: oneway23 on January 23, 2007, 12:10:43 AM
Live concert footage for the 1st single...show the energy this band brings to the stage.


Title: Re: Format of the New Video??
Post by: CVBTank on January 23, 2007, 12:41:06 AM
I remember a video that was posted on here a while ago.  It was a professional recording of Better an indoor arena, but they had synced it up (as best they could) with the demo we heard.  I think something like that is best for the video.  The epic videos we're great, and certainly signature GnR, but that doesn't sell records anymore.

GnR should do a live video, and offer lots of free content on their website.  Footage of concerts, the ocasional sound board...really take advantage of a new medium the same way the video trilogy did.


Title: Re: Format of the New Video??
Post by: 1badapple on January 24, 2007, 01:28:57 PM
No video, just please get the album out.


Title: Re: Format of the New Video??
Post by: Lucky on January 24, 2007, 01:38:38 PM
if I was doing a promotion of my own...
I'd probably go to MTV - VMA and out of the blue, beat the crap out of Emminem! That would create lots of "+" publicity.
then I'd do a video for "Silkworms",...
And here's how it'd look like.
I'd get that porn star that looks like britney spears, and I'd fuck her silly and record it.
then add, Silkworms music over it...
and there you have it! An instant hit.

just think of the controversy!
any non wigger teenager would want to be like you, and you'd be the talk of the world.
Also, I'd do a video where Bush look alike gets fucked by a gay gorila. that would also be a great video!


Title: Re: Format of the New Video??
Post by: misterID on January 24, 2007, 01:54:15 PM
^ Post of the year :hihi:

I don't care about a video concept... as long as its centered around Sasha.  :drool:


Title: Re: Format of the New Video??
Post by: Where is Hassan Nasrallah ? on January 24, 2007, 03:27:22 PM
i think the new video will beta-sp or something. or beta-cam?


Title: Re: Format of the New Video??
Post by: BlowUpYourVideo on January 24, 2007, 03:36:30 PM
I can totally see Axl dancing with zombies.


Title: Re: Format of the New Video??
Post by: gunns1 on January 24, 2007, 07:15:48 PM
Lol, loved that one about bush getting fkd by a gay gorilla.

Lol, mabye use some footage out of King Kong, and Thats My Bush

lol killa


Title: Re: Format of the New Video??
Post by: Axl4Prez2004 on January 24, 2007, 07:53:02 PM
^ Post of the year :hihi:

I don't care about a video concept... as long as its centered around Sasha.  :drool:


Now that is the post of the year.  Yes, Sasha better be in any new video.  I second your  :drool:  :drool:  :drool:


Title: Re: Format of the New Video??
Post by: Mark7955 on January 24, 2007, 08:49:17 PM
Yeah, a good video would be nice to see.