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Title: When to expect a first single?
Post by: CaughtMeInaComa on January 21, 2007, 02:14:32 PM
Shouldn't We expect a single around The beginning of february. Every band puts out a single a month or more, b4 their CD comes out. I don't think it will be a good thing if we don't see a Single hit By february.


Title: Re: When to expect a first single?
Post by: EFISH on January 21, 2007, 02:17:03 PM
Yeah, I would say around the first week of February sounds right to me.


Title: Re: When to expect a first single?
Post by: Wando on January 21, 2007, 02:37:36 PM
I don't beleive that Axl will deliver the album yet on March 6th so that's where I put my single realese guess :]


Title: Re: When to expect a first single?
Post by: CAFC Nick on January 21, 2007, 03:03:10 PM
Didn't someone who claimed to have heard Better say 2 weeks ago (and that was at least a week ago)


Title: Re: When to expect a first single?
Post by: Rock the jungle on January 21, 2007, 03:16:06 PM
I think most of the people that say something about Chinese Democracy is bullshit no one knows anything about CD neither the first single... so we just can wait an Axl's announcement....


Title: Re: When to expect a first single?
Post by: Rocksteady on January 21, 2007, 03:41:10 PM
If the march 6th release date still stands then a single should be released couple of weeks from now.


Title: Re: When to expect a first single?
Post by: A Private Eye on January 21, 2007, 03:57:50 PM
If March 6th is the date then yes a single within a week. As there is only 6 weeks until March 5th/6th it seems unlikely that will now be the release date for CD. End of March beginning of April is probably our best hope at this stage, with a single early/mid February.


Title: Re: When to expect a first single?
Post by: Rocksteady on January 21, 2007, 04:53:36 PM
Damn you can say that Chinese Democracy is already on the horizon  :rofl:


Title: Re: When to expect a first single?
Post by: oneway23 on January 21, 2007, 05:24:06 PM
I'm now thinking a single in April for a May release.


Title: Re: When to expect a first single?
Post by: GNRreunioneventually on January 21, 2007, 05:30:37 PM
i think that a single or(Better) will be out by the first week of March, between now and then is when it should fall. And i dont know 'bout the rest of you but i dont think March 6th looks good any more maybe around May if we're lucky maybe Aprill. I pray i'm wrong :-X


 :peace:


Title: Re: When to expect a first single?
Post by: Bodhi on January 21, 2007, 05:33:47 PM
they better put it out before may..because Velvet Revolver is putting a record out in may...and you dont want to put a GNR album out the same time...it would be OVERLOAD.....but whatever...management apparently does whatever the fuck they want without common sense or reason, so I guess you could expect it in may....


Title: Re: When to expect a first single?
Post by: Rocksteady on January 21, 2007, 05:37:04 PM
I sure as hell don't want to have this same discussion again in may...


Title: Re: When to expect a first single?
Post by: dizzy68 on January 21, 2007, 06:22:28 PM
I sure as hell don't want to have this same discussion again in may...


 Would you honestly be surprised if you had to?


Title: Re: When to expect a first single?
Post by: samoice on January 21, 2007, 07:09:10 PM
i  dont think the single will be leaked anytime soon. with the new download radio chart rules. i really dont think there be any need to produce cds for singles. theyd just show it up on the site last minute before anyone knew about it . thus the reason y there isnt any leaks as of yet!


Title: Re: When to expect a first single?
Post by: acompleteunknown on January 21, 2007, 07:29:38 PM
Yeah, if Axl was in NY recently, there's a good chance he was at least playing a portion of the album for the label execs.  Singles used to come out about 4-6 weeks prior but that was before the downloading craze.  Now it seems like singles tend to come out closer to 2-4 weeks before a release. 

For example, another major act...The Killers released their first single "When You Were Young" 3 1/2 weeks before the album came out.  Singles come out on Fridays so the radios can play them all weekend and create buzz for the coming week.


Title: Re: When to expect a first single?
Post by: benchiefjr on January 21, 2007, 08:54:53 PM
this is fucking ridiculous :(


Title: Re: When to expect a first single?
Post by: grog mug on January 21, 2007, 09:43:38 PM
Who knows..there has been predictions for years and years that its coming out on this date and that date.  We have a March 6 "probable' release date, which means that February is the month for promotion.  No promo in Feb, NO CD in March. Simple.


Title: Re: When to expect a first single?
Post by: Mooch on January 21, 2007, 09:49:35 PM
Who knows..there has been predictions for years and years that its coming out on this date and that date.  We have a March 6 "probable' release date, which means that February is the month for promotion.  No promo in Feb, NO CD in March. Simple.

Now were thinking  :hihi:


Title: Re: When to expect a first single?
Post by: Jim Bob on January 21, 2007, 10:41:36 PM
hopefully soon :)


Title: Re: When to expect a first single?
Post by: raffaelbh on January 21, 2007, 10:45:51 PM
Dezember 2007
hahahaha : ok:


Title: Re: When to expect a first single?
Post by: GnR-NOW on January 21, 2007, 10:46:37 PM
I don't think a single is as big of deal as we make it out to be.  I'd prefer long, epic songs that are less radio friendly then a 3 minute stereotypical rocker.  For singles Id like to see Better, CD, and The Blues, but I hope the album is alot like TWAT, with a real epic sound.


Title: Re: When to expect a first single?
Post by: patmac54 on January 21, 2007, 10:49:24 PM
hopefully the Harley Davidson commercial w/ "better" will air during the superbowl on february 4th (oh and by the way, b/c brady blew it, joe montana remains the greatest qb of all time :peace:), and shortly after we'll get the single!


Title: Re: When to expect a first single?
Post by: D on January 21, 2007, 10:54:59 PM
Singles sell the albums to non/casual fans.


the die Hard fans do not keep a band platinum and successful, they have to get buys from people who arent fans but become fans thanks to singles. Sad but True...................




I am optimistic the album is coming out in March cause Axl promised if something came up, he would tell us and when the new date is.

So since we've heard nothing, i believe the album will come out sometime in March/earlyapril.

So I am looking for a single around Valentine's Day.


Title: Re: When to expect a first single?
Post by: grog mug on January 21, 2007, 11:02:54 PM
I think after Finck's first solo, the rest of the song needs to be fixed up.  Hopefully this is what Axl is doing.  The first few parts of that song are genious, but after that its just a big cluttered mess.  BETTER, BETTER be the first single, Valentines day sounds good.


Title: Re: When to expect a first single?
Post by: fernomenoyde on January 21, 2007, 11:17:36 PM
February 2 :: Better. :peace:


Title: Re: When to expect a first single?
Post by: GNRreunioneventually on January 21, 2007, 11:30:02 PM
hopefully the Harley Davidson commercial w/ "better" will air during the superbowl on february 4th (oh and by the way, b/c brady blew it, joe montana remains the greatest qb of all time :peace:), and shortly after we'll get the single!

i hope it comes during the superbowl too but wasn't that denied by some one or was it in that bull shit letter that was givin to us a while ago. And was that presumed to be bull shit? i can't remember ???


Title: Re: When to expect a first single?
Post by: doooodickiebr on January 22, 2007, 07:12:28 AM
hope we get something soon!


Title: Re: When to expect a first single?
Post by: WARose on January 22, 2007, 07:47:05 AM
February 2 :: Better. :peace:

you probably don`t have any information we don`t have, do you? :hihi:


Title: Re: When to expect a first single?
Post by: dub05 on January 22, 2007, 07:55:09 AM
ides of march ...............15th march : ok:


Title: Re: When to expect a first single?
Post by: J? on January 22, 2007, 08:14:40 AM
Supercalifragilisticexpialad'ohcious (cover) is going to be the first single man!

 :hihi:


Title: Re: When to expect a first single?
Post by: Count Fluffy on January 22, 2007, 08:19:00 AM
Are we sure that singles always come out a month before the album?  Personally, I think that if the album were to come out in early march that we'd have album info + single in mid-February.  Although we'll never know until it comes out: I would not be surprised if it came out early Feb or much much later.


Title: Re: When to expect a first single?
Post by: jarmo on January 22, 2007, 08:27:13 AM
Are we sure that singles always come out a month before the album? 

No they don't.


Some people seem to forget that GN'R doesn't play by the "rule book". You have to do this, you have to do that....




/jarmo


Title: Re: When to expect a first single?
Post by: JeDr on January 22, 2007, 08:35:39 AM
No they don't.


Some people seem to forget that GN'R doesn't play by the "rule book". You have to do this, you have to do that....
Isn't that up to the record company to decide and plan, as soon as GNR handed out the album to them? Or how does this process work?


Title: Re: When to expect a first single?
Post by: oldgunsfan on January 22, 2007, 08:39:25 AM
End of Feb / early march


Title: Re: When to expect a first single?
Post by: Nytunz on January 22, 2007, 08:47:07 AM
alot of bands release a single only days before the album release.. a week before or so.. Maybe to get more buzz
when the album actually is released. I have a feeling GnR may do it this way. But who knows..


Title: Re: When to expect a first single?
Post by: JeDr on January 22, 2007, 08:58:40 AM
alot of bands release a single only days before the album release.. a week before or so.. Maybe to get more buzz
when the album actually is released. I have a feeling GnR may do it this way. But who knows..
Think GNR has already created enough buzz, so no need for that. I expect a single release date couple of days in advance, together with the CD release date. I don't expect any big anouncement, but a big promotional circus once it hits the shelfs.


Title: Re: When to expect a first single?
Post by: Gordi on January 22, 2007, 09:03:27 AM
Maybe there won't even be a single? Some bands do that with albums... Personally I don't think that would be a good idea though. Anyway I don't GNR would.


Title: Re: When to expect a first single?
Post by: NicoRourke on January 22, 2007, 09:07:16 AM
I hope it's coming out anyday soon now. I can't take it no more :peace:

And I also hope they will deliver a kickass in-your-face video :smoking:


Title: Re: When to expect a first single?
Post by: flicknn on January 22, 2007, 09:24:19 AM
February 2 :: Better. :peace:

you probably don`t have any information we don`t have, do you? :hihi:

I have the Walmart purchasing guide for music in front of me , there is nothing for the whole month of febuary


Title: Re: When to expect a first single?
Post by: madagas on January 22, 2007, 09:33:55 AM
I still think they should have released Better to radio prior to the tour and should have released the Harley ad. It is just one song for christ sakes! :crying: That way, if the song was received well, people would be salivating over the record for a few months and it may have sparked the "muse" to finish the album sooner. If the song was received sort of lukewarm, no harm no foul. It already leaked so why not put out the real version? We weren't going to get the album at x-mas anyway and Axl could have adjusted his potential tracklist based on the reception of Better. It could have been a real test instead of a half ass one like the leaked tracks. : ok:


Title: Re: When to expect a first single?
Post by: Big Gun on January 22, 2007, 09:47:49 AM
people dont seem to understand the importance of promotion. if this album is not promoted appropriately then it will be the end of gnr or new gnr at least. i am certain that the label will promote this album properly and in the traditional way similar to any other major release - a single 1 month prior to album release, video, tv and radio ads, magazines.... if album leaks then album will get released in less then a month.
there is not going to be any different that any other major release, and to people who thing that guns do things differently meaning not the traditional way(regarding the album release) they are wrong, is up to the label. it's not 1993 anymore when guns had power over the label. that power is long gone specially when label has invested $13 million in the making of this album.
if we dont hear anything by the end of january then forget the march release.
my personal opinion is that it's to quite in gnr world at the moment which means more delays for the album. remember this folks no news is not good news regarding the CD release, no news=label doesnt have the album. ?


Title: Re: When to expect a first single?
Post by: bringbackadler on January 22, 2007, 09:48:38 AM
I think I'm normally a pretty optimistic individual but.... I think it's looking pretty unlikely that "Axl's magnum opus" will drop on March 6th. In December after Axl & his Mgmt failed to deliver after insisting that 2006 was "the year", they gave us a tentative release date instead. Maybe history will repeat itself, for one reason or another he wont be able to deliver the album as he hoped on March 6 so instead we might see the single right around then. It wouldn't make the situation great... but it would make it
" Better." ? ;D


Title: Re: When to expect a first single?
Post by: WARose on January 22, 2007, 09:56:32 AM
people dont seem to understand the importance of promotion. if this album is not promoted appropriately then it will be the end of gnr or new gnr at least. i am certain that the label will promote this album properly and in the traditional way similar to any other major release - a single 1 month prior to album release, video, tv and radio ads, magazines.... if album leaks then album will get released in less then a month.
there is not going to be any different that any other major release, and to people who thing that guns do things differently meaning not the traditional way(regarding the album release) they are wrong, is up to the label. it's not 1993 anymore when guns had power over the label. that power is long gone specially when label has invested $13 million in the making of this album.
if we dont hear anything by the end of january then forget the march release.
my personal opinion is that it's to quite in gnr world at the moment which means more delays for the album. remember this folks no news is not good news regarding the CD release, no news=label doesnt have the album. 

axl rose still has a lot of power at universal.....  the $13 million investment is one of the reasons.... the gnr name another..... great material could be another reason as well....


Title: Re: When to expect a first single?
Post by: Big Gun on January 22, 2007, 10:08:12 AM
i think the 13 million was spent mostly by geffen before the merge with universal. i believe that the label is not spending a penny anymore on guns unless they have the album. axl said it himself a few years back that the label refused to release the album because they thought it wasnt good enough. why do you think there was no promotion for the past tour?


Title: Re: When to expect a first single?
Post by: rds.06 on January 22, 2007, 10:11:23 AM
why do you think there was no promotion for the past tour?

I went to a gig on the European tour and there was just as much promotion as any other gig during the year. 2 page spreads in most newspapers, ads on the radio, etc.


Title: Re: When to expect a first single?
Post by: bringbackadler on January 22, 2007, 10:14:37 AM
I think the only thing holding the album up at this point is Axl trying to perfect ' Prostitute '.   : ok:


Title: Re: When to expect a first single?
Post by: flicknn on January 22, 2007, 10:15:45 AM
people dont seem to understand the importance of promotion. if this album is not promoted appropriately then it will be the end of gnr or new gnr at least. i am certain that the label will promote this album properly and in the traditional way similar to any other major release - a single 1 month prior to album release, video, tv and radio ads, magazines.... if album leaks then album will get released in less then a month.
there is not going to be any different that any other major release, and to people who thing that guns do things differently meaning not the traditional way(regarding the album release) they are wrong, is up to the label. it's not 1993 anymore when guns had power over the label. that power is long gone specially when label has invested $13 million in the making of this album.
if we dont hear anything by the end of january then forget the march release.
my personal opinion is that it's to quite in gnr world at the moment which means more delays for the album. remember this folks no news is not good news regarding the CD release, no news=label doesnt have the album. 

this azlbum is 13 years behind , it needs no promotion when it drops , we have people who read the net , then hit the streets with promotion


Title: Re: When to expect a first single?
Post by: ppbebe on January 22, 2007, 10:17:15 AM
Unsure about the power at 'universal'
axl says
"The band and I, along with our record company, feel that this record deserves the proper setup and promotion".

Tommy says GNR is touring at his site, which is good news.


Title: Re: When to expect a first single?
Post by: Big Gun on January 22, 2007, 10:17:23 AM
not by the label but by the promoters themselves. if you think thats enough promotion for this album then 2007 is not going to be a good year for guns and us fans.

p.s this is a reply to rds.o6


Title: Re: When to expect a first single?
Post by: oldgunsfan on January 22, 2007, 08:34:11 PM
they already have 3 singles out: IRS, TWAT and Better.... :rofl:
wtf do you think the leaks were for :o


Title: Re: When to expect a first single?
Post by: bigbri on January 22, 2007, 08:40:11 PM
they already have 3 singles out: IRS, TWAT and Better.... :rofl:
wtf do you think the leaks were for :o

Singles are meant for radio. Radio couldn't play the songs. Hell, we can't even put links to them on this site. How is that promotion?


Title: Re: When to expect a first single?
Post by: BurningHills on January 22, 2007, 08:40:43 PM
Yeah, if Axl was in NY recently, there's a good chance he was at least playing a portion of the album for the label execs.  Singles used to come out about 4-6 weeks prior but that was before the downloading craze.  Now it seems like singles tend to come out closer to 2-4 weeks before a release. 

For example, another major act...The Killers released their first single "When You Were Young" 3 1/2 weeks before the album came out.  Singles come out on Fridays so the radios can play them all weekend and create buzz for the coming week.

The radio station(s) I work for have been playing singles from albums due in March since the start of the year..


Title: Re: When to expect a first single?
Post by: bigbri on January 22, 2007, 09:52:38 PM
Yeah, if Axl was in NY recently, there's a good chance he was at least playing a portion of the album for the label execs.? Singles used to come out about 4-6 weeks prior but that was before the downloading craze.? Now it seems like singles tend to come out closer to 2-4 weeks before a release.?

For example, another major act...The Killers released their first single "When You Were Young" 3 1/2 weeks before the album came out.? Singles come out on Fridays so the radios can play them all weekend and create buzz for the coming week.

The radio station(s) I work for have been playing singles from albums due in March since the start of the year..

I certainly believe that. As far as GNR, I'm still looking at the middle of February, maybe the 16th. If we don't hear something then, then I think all of March is out of the question for a CD.


Title: Re: When to expect a first single?
Post by: oldgunsfan on January 29, 2007, 08:41:51 AM
they already have 3 singles out: IRS, TWAT and Better.... :rofl:
wtf do you think the leaks were for :o

Singles are meant for radio. Radio couldn't play the songs. Hell, we can't even put links to them on this site. How is that promotion?

when they were leaked, they made various countdowns on various locations before the Ceast and Desist order was given.....

and who on these boards haven't heard them ;D


Title: Re: When to expect a first single?
Post by: *ReON!* on January 29, 2007, 06:19:46 PM
A month before the official release should be good. I can't understand why all of you thinks that the 6th of March date is official...


Title: Re: When to expect a first single?
Post by: TrixAreForKids on January 29, 2007, 06:22:26 PM
A month before the official release should be good. I can't understand why all of you thinks that the 6th of March date is official...

It's just wishfull thinking.


Title: Re: When to expect a first single?
Post by: BurningHills on January 29, 2007, 06:34:35 PM
Still nothing here at work.

I find it funny that the admins are defending Gunsguy over at mygnr when its obvious that he was full of shit the whole time.


Title: Re: When to expect a first single?
Post by: EFISH on January 29, 2007, 06:35:58 PM
Still nothing here at work.

I find it funny that the admins are defending Gunsguy over at mygnr when its obvious that he was full of shit the whole time.
Wasnt Madison bitching him out?

He probably told her the "inside info" so now she sticks up for him.

I dont know, havent been around mygnr much lately.


 :P


Title: Re: When to expect a first single?
Post by: BurningHills on January 29, 2007, 06:38:34 PM
Still nothing here at work.

I find it funny that the admins are defending Gunsguy over at mygnr when its obvious that he was full of shit the whole time.
Wasnt Madison bitching him out?

He probably told her the "inside info" so now she sticks up for him.

I dont know, havent been around mygnr much lately.


 :P

I didn't see Madison say anything about the matter, but Eric posted in his defense and locked the topic. (shrug) Oh well - we all know he's a bullshitter, and that's the important thing.  :peace:


Title: Re: When to expect a first single?
Post by: Bruno Poeys on January 29, 2007, 06:44:45 PM
Still nothing here at work.

I find it funny that the admins are defending Gunsguy over at mygnr when its obvious that he was full of shit the whole time.
he said something around january 14-16, right? Now lets count 2 weeks... 2 weeks mean 14 days. 16 + 14 = 30. He said about 2 weeks, the week is starting now. So what's wrong? We still have this week before flaming him : ok:


Title: Re: When to expect a first single?
Post by: BurningHills on January 29, 2007, 06:47:45 PM
Still nothing here at work.

I find it funny that the admins are defending Gunsguy over at mygnr when its obvious that he was full of shit the whole time.
he said something around january 14-16, right? Now lets count 2 weeks... 2 weeks mean 14 days. 16 + 14 = 30. He said about 2 weeks, the week is starting now. So what's wrong? We still have this week before flaming him : ok:

His deadline for something to happen expired this past Friday, I believe.


Title: Re: When to expect a first single?
Post by: sesor on January 29, 2007, 07:02:35 PM
it's amazing how much the same thing has been repeated in this thread haha  :peace:


Title: Re: When to expect a first single?
Post by: mick on January 29, 2007, 07:15:42 PM
people dont seem to understand the importance of promotion. if this album is not promoted appropriately then it will be the end of gnr or new gnr at least. i am certain that the label will promote this album properly and in the traditional way similar to any other major release - a single 1 month prior to album release, video, tv and radio ads, magazines.... if album leaks then album will get released in less then a month.
there is not going to be any different that any other major release, and to people who thing that guns do things differently meaning not the traditional way(regarding the album release) they are wrong, is up to the label. it's not 1993 anymore when guns had power over the label. that power is long gone specially when label has invested $13 million in the making of this album.
if we dont hear anything by the end of january then forget the march release.
my personal opinion is that it's to quite in gnr world at the moment which means more delays for the album. remember this folks no news is not good news regarding the CD release, no news=label doesnt have the album. 

axl rose still has a lot of power at universal.....  the $13 million investment is one of the reasons....

HAHA ... good point. Reminds me of an old saying about owing the bank money, I'll adapt it :

If you owe the record company $1 Million dollars from the making of an album, you have a problem.
If you owe the record company $13 Million dollars from the making of an album, the record company has a problem.

BaDumpDump

/I'll be here all week. Try the veal and tip your waitress   ;D


Title: Re: When to expect a first single?
Post by: *ReON!* on February 01, 2007, 07:09:30 AM
Shouldn't We expect a single around The beginning of february. Every band puts out a single a month or more, b4 their CD comes out. I don't think it will be a good thing if we don't see a Single hit By february.
Well, it's not "A Month prior to the record"...could be more, could be less. The Good, the Bad and the Queen released their first album single kinda 3 months before the album release and then they released their second single a week before the album came out...


Title: Re: When to expect a first single?
Post by: JDA on February 01, 2007, 11:09:46 AM
Never!!!!!!111