Here Today... Gone To Hell!

i just realized u guys dont have a Rage Against The Machine thread, SHAME ON YOU!! anyway:

According to MTV.com, AUDIOSLAVE guitarist Tom Morello's debut solo album as the NIGHTWATCHMAN will land in stores April 24. "One Man Revolution" will feature 13 songs, with Morello playing acoustic guitar and singing lead vocals for the first time. Morello, who has performed as the NIGHTWATCHMAN a handful of times ? most notably at protest events ? plans to tour this spring and will perform in March at the South by Southwest conference in Austin, Texas.

In related news, Billboard.com reports that rumors are gaining strength that Morello's previous band RAGE AGAINST THE MACHINE may be reuniting for the first time in six-plus years to play the Coachella Valley Music & Arts Festival this spring.

After RAGE split in 2000, Morello formed AUDIOSLAVE with his old band's rhythm section of Tim Commerford and Brad Wilk. However, AUDIOSLAVE is on hiatus while frontman Chris Cornell records a solo album and has no plans to tour in support of its third album, "Revelations", released last fall.

And while AUDIOSLAVE refused to play RAGE songs live on its early tours, the band eventually began incorporating them into its sets in summer 2005.

As for RAGE frontman Zach de la Rocha, little has been heard from him since the breakup, although he is said to be on good terms with his ex-bandmates.



this would be beyond awesome. Smashing Pumpkins and Rage Against The Machine reuniting to combat this shitty music scene??? i dig it.

That would be kick ass. :headbanger:

i'm a big fan of Rage against the machine, fuckin' amazing, IMO audioslave is nothing compared to them so hopefully it would last and not only for a show


:headbanger:

yeah this would be great, in my opinion they were getting better and better. The Battle of Los Angeles was my favorite record by them and it got rave reviews.

That would rock

Audioslave are a joke - a Rage tour would be awesome and new material would be even better

i happen to like audioslave but... bring back rage against the machine. that's some great news. i hope it will happen :yes:

that would be incredible! Audioslave is pretty boring, Rage rocks hard and mean!

To be honest, I've never really enjoyed anything Audioslave put out.  I'm a huge rage fan, and I really like Cornell's voice (although not a big fan of Soundgarden), but I've been consistently let down by what Audioslave has put out.   A Rage reuinion, even if it's simply a one-off show, would be welcome...

as baz said, even a single show would be welcome 'cuz who knows, they feel like hey this is great let's try to do a fuckin' record :headbanger:

I like Audioslave too . But a rage reunion would kick ass big time.

that would be pretty cool. I haven't really heard to much from them but the stuff i have heard i love like pocket full of shells and that song they sing for DX in the WWE :headbanger: good song to bang your head too ya know?

Oh god i hope this happens. this would be huge.

more reunion rumours  ;D

hope it's true and they'll get out on the road

I think we're all just being a bit too lazy here...I'm sure we can somehow turn this into a "new band" vs. "old band" debate.  :hihi:

i think the holy rock god answered some prayers!!

YESSSSSS RAGE AGAINST THE FUCKING MACHINEEEE

Amazing news...I actually dusted off my copy of Evil Empire this morning and I come on here and read this.. :hihi:

They must need money.

its been confirmed-
http://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=65693

read about it here

 :beer:

2007 is rocking so far, this only adds to it.

Come back of rock and metal, does 2007 hold this?

Hot damn, that is fantastic news.  With De La Rocha's solo album still awaiting release, I can only hope they all enjoy playing together and make it more than a one-time deal.  If not, so be it...it'll be great to see them together again.   

you bet your sweet ass on that man. The return of Metal is inevitable.
say good bye to all the shit music of today and to all the posers and to MTV.

METAL IS COMING BACK ?:beer: :smoking: : ok: :peace: :yes: :drool:

HOLY SHIT!!!!!!

http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/news/music/la-et-coachella22jan22,1,6747076.story?coll=la-headlines-entnews&ctrack=1&cset=true


another article about it!!!!

THIS IS GREAT. GREAT MUSIC IS COMING BACK!!!!!!

wicked!  i LOVE ratm.  come back sweet music, come back!  I do love chris cornell, but Audioslave have never impressed me much.
Come to UK, ratm.

(first time i saw Ratm was 1994 at the first ever T in the park festival in Scotland. Cypress Hill were supposed to play before them, but got delayed at Heathrow airport - poor bastards - so when they turned up it was really late, but Rage invited them onstage and they did a combined set - FCN great!

that song was NOT done by Rage against the machine

i may have to take a trip to CA this april

what the fuck, i'm not generally a dude who says i heard this thing from a friend to a friend, but that guy i talked to for a while, said that there were more then one show? ???

he said he heard it on the radio first they said one show then they (prolly DJ) said that they (RATM) would continue as a band for now or something, but the radio thingie don't make much sense to me since why the fuck should sweden get it before USA, you know what i mean,
i didn't wanna be a negative ass to him so i just said ok cool,

then who was it? i didn't know for sure it just sounded like the guy on the vocals. ???

I believe that its a band called the Connecticut Yankees.

Also - I never really dug Rage outside of a few songs. Never saw the big deal about them, but that's just me.

ok thanks man : ok: and i agree with your statment as well :)

i think the main question here is whether its just a one time thing or if they will play more shows/record an album. i mean audioslave is on hiatus for a while with Cornell working on his solo album and Morello doing stuff with The Nightwatchman so i guess its possible for them to record an album or tour a bit...i guess we'll find out at some point.

i guess my comment in the M Manson thread was an omen ....

can you die from happiness if RATM and GNR plays together the same night ?

Shit yes, im so going to this!! I went a couple years ago and it was a lot of fun, hopefully there wont be as many shitty indie bands though.

Has it been comfirmed to who else is playing? I saw the list on blabbermouth but there were only about 10-15 bands and there's usually a lot more.

one off according to tom's myspace.

holly shit man, thats fuckig sick! RATM is a fucking awesome band.

The best thing Chris Cornell ever did, as far as my tastes go, was the Casino Royale theme. I've always been a fan of Rage, but Audioslave plain sucked. They're pussed out radio rock. It saw one of the most talented rhythm sections in recent rock turned into shit. Tom Morello went from playing innovative, heavy riffs to playing generic, embarassing, light shit. This is good news and hopefully the end of Audioslave, a band whose singer is known for his screaming ability and range who uses neither.

Yeah, I've often wondered about that.? Cornell's voice sounds rather dry, thin and wispy to me these days (especially live) and I don't hear him coming anywhere near the vocal range he once had.? Do you feel this is a conscious/creative decision on his behalf, perhaps age, or is there another reason?

Does anybody know if Chris has ever had surgery to remove any polyps from his vocal chords?

Anyway, I've always thought he was an amazing singer, but his voice just sounds a bit off to me these days.

Cheers,
W.R.

2007 the year real music comes back!!!! :beer: :beer: SP GNR ratm and dispatch is going to reunite for a few shows too!!!!

I do feel it's a conscious decision. Maybe he feels that singing style is more suited to a band like Soundgarden and he may find it dated now. I don't know, but I do know that aside from their first single "Cochise," he hasn't really rocked it pretty hard at all. Not that he was balls out on that song either. Again though, he did the Casino Royale theme and was putting out a better range than he has on any of the three Audioslave albums, which brings me back to believing this is a conscious, creative decision. That's where the band clearly wanted to go, as even Tom Morello's guitar work is very under played. Everything is so under played. I just never cared for it.

yeah thats what Im figuring too. they're all stepping it down a few notches to stay radio friendly. that don't fly with me!
anyway, GREAT news about RATM. I hope they're coming to their senses and make this a permanent move, but I don't really believe in it.

maybe after re-uniting the magic will return and they will do an album.

screw chris cornell lol, his voice is too worn and hes terrible live now.

RAGE AGAINST THE MACHINE Managing Itself For Upcoming Reunion

http://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=65922

 :smoking:

I think its age and wearing his voice out singing for so many years and not having the proper vocal training? it happens to alot of singers who end up blowing their voices out.

fuck audioslave bring on RAGE!

i think steven tyler did pretty well then, i dont think he had lessons until like 92

I'll be there,  Coachella 3 days of art and music  :smoking:

anyone get tckets for this yet?

I did, I got for the 3 nights  : ok:

i didn't the fucking thing sold out too quick  :'(

http://www.last.fm/user/Benladen/journal/2007/01/25/325920/?page=2

read the dudes article, what a nob.

what a fuckin' tool :rant:

I love Soundgarden & RATM, but Audioslave sucks (except the 1st one).

This is the best music news I've heard since early last year, when all the awesome concerts were being announced (GNR,Coachella,Download,Family Values,etc.).

I hope Rage goes on tour.  Maybe Audioslave... or even better yet - Soundgarden could tour with them!   :o

I just hope this isnt a cash grab.

I hopes so too. But it more then likely is ....just hope the decide to stick with it for more then just this show.

I really hope they decide to do more too i never got to see them back in the day and i'd really like to see them, hopefully since the Audioslave thing seems to be on the rocks they might consider going a bit further than just one show.

if this isnt permanent they shouldnt do it.

I read this article on mtv.com when it first posted, but couldn't find it later.  This explains it, I suppose:

http://www.rollingstone.com/rockdaily/index.php/2007/02/05/rage-against-the-retraction/

http://www.mtv.com/#/news/articles/1552582/20070215/audioslave.jhtml

With Cornell officially quitting Audioslave, here's hoping that Rage reunites for more than just Coachella...

interesting read. so there's no more audioslave. that means the chances of a permanent ratm reunion have increased considerably. here's hoping :beer:

woah, i'm glad just hope this'll happen (meaning a reunion)

http://www.mtv.com/#/news/articles/1552582/20070215/audioslave.jhtml

More comments from Cornell about the hows and why of his departure.  I appreciated his perspecitve on Rage, but the part that surprised me the most was his mention of an Audioslave Greatest Hits records at some point in the future.  Does that sound weird to anyone else?

the audioslave greatest hits doesn't sound weird. i guess that's what labels do after a major rock acts break. tryin' to squeeze everything from the band.

i know that audioslave has said that they had a bunch of tracks that didnt make the albums. i hope for a rarities compelation, more than a greatest hits, but if thr gh has new songs ill buy it

Do they even have enough "hit" singles to compose a Greatest Hits album ???

can you copy n paste it please?

it wont load for my browser.

Here you go:

In a statement to the press announcing the imminent release of his sophomore solo album, Carry On, on Thursday (February 15) Chris Cornell confirmed months of rumors by announcing that he has left Audioslave.

"Due to irresolvable personality conflicts as well as musical differences, I am permanently leaving the band Audioslave," he said in a statement. "I wish the other three members" ? guitarist Tom Morello, bassist Tim Commerford and drummer Brad Wilk ? "nothing but the best in all of their future endeavors."

That was the extent of Cornell's statement regarding his departure. But this afternoon, when MTV News spoke with Cornell about his decision to leave Audioslave, he said he had been thinking about leaving since the band finished recording its last effort, Revelations.

"It was clear to all of us we needed some time apart, and what that produces is anybody's guess," he said. "In my case, it produced a very prolific writing period, and getting back into writing songs on my own, liking what that means ? which is sort of a freedom and time to just experiment with music to a degree I kind of like more ? and making records that have everything I like about music in them. Audioslave was a very fresh collaboration because it was very much like a young band, where you all write together in a room. But my experience, in terms of songwriting and record-creating, is not like a 19-year-old guy in a rock band. For me to be satisfied, I think I need to be able to be on my own, in the long run."

The announcement comes just two weeks after Rage Against the Machine revealed they would be reuniting for this year's Coachella festival in Indio, California, on April 29, ending seven years of dormancy (see "Rage Against The Machine To Reunite For Coachella Festival"). It also raises speculation as to what the future holds for Rage ? and whether a Soundgarden reunion could be in the works.

Rumors of Cornell's departure began last fall, when Audioslave elected not to tour behind last year's Revelations LP.

Earlier this month, Morello told MTV News that, for now, the Rage reunion would be a one-off, adding that his principal focus at the moment is his solo project, the Nightwatchman (see "Nightwatchman, Rage Reunion Have Morello Fired Up For Political Fights").

Morello said at the time that he wasn't sure what would become of Audioslave, saying that "Audioslave is currently not touring on the record" because "Chris [Cornell] did not want to tour. To me, it seems that the world needs songs of rebellion and revolution right now."

Just weeks before Rage were named one of Coachella's headlining acts, Morello demurred when asked by MTV News whether Audioslave was over, saying "[people] have been telling me Audioslave was breaking up for some time now. No new news there." He would not officially describe the band's status.

Cornell's album, which was helmed by producer Steve Lillywhite (U2, Rolling Stones) and is the follow-up to 1999's Euphoria Morning, will be in stores May 1. The LP will contain 14 tracks, including "Safe and Sound," "Scar on the Sky" and a slow-grind cover of Michael Jackson's "Billy Jean."

In July, Cornell denied Audioslave-split rumors, months before the band issued Revelations (see "Chris Cornell Working On Solo LP ? But Dismisses Rumors Of Audioslave Split").

"We hear rumors that Audioslave is breaking up all the time," he said. "Even in the beginning, when we were having business problems and we weren't necessarily going to be a band, we were still going to put out a record. We made a record and we loved it. I think that's where it starts ? the idea that we sort of started on shaky ground. You would hope that by now, putting out our third record, people wouldn't be thinking that way or be worried about it. But it comes up. I always just ignore it."

Of course, Cornell's since had a serious change of heart. "It hadn't really crossed my mind until a few days ago that I really have no intention of being in this band," he said. "It's been asked before, but it wasn't ever clear in my mind before, and I didn't really see any reason why we couldn't be a band at some point. But now, my feelings are what they are, and I just wanted to get things out on the table and be clear about it."

Cornell said the split was amicable and that, as far as he's concerned, Audioslave is finished, "Unless they want to go find another singer and go make other Audioslave records ? then maybe they can have two bands, with a different singer for Rage and a different singer for Audioslave, and they could go on tour and open for each other.

"I certainly don't have any animosity toward them, and I don't think anyone hates me," he continued. "And to be honest, I think those guys getting back and doing some Rage shows is great. I think one of the main reasons why I ever wanted a band like Audioslave was because of seeing Rage in 1996, and I thought they were one of the best live bands I had ever seen. That's why I wanted to do it. The thought of those guys playing shows and maybe becoming a band again I think is a great thing. There were times in Audioslave where I wondered whether those guys missed the visceral nature of the audience response that Rage would get. We had a different experience and a different crowd, but it was so specific to Rage, that kind of world that they were in, that I often wondered if they missed it."

Cornell said that Audioslave will issue a greatest-hits collection with some unreleased material at some point, "because whoever it is we owe it to will say, 'OK, we're going to put that out now,' because that's what labels do." He said he wasn't sure which label the best-of was owed to; the band released records through a partnership between Epic and Interscope.

And when asked about Soundgarden possibly reuniting, Cornell said it was doubtful. "I haven't received any phone calls from anyone in Soundgarden about a reunion since we broke up, nor have I called anyone," he said. "We were happy with how it ended. There was no unfinished business. Soundgarden wasn't a band where we broke up and everyone was like, 'I'm never f---ing talking to you again.' It wasn't like that. We've all talked to each other many times since then. Its something we don't feel we need to do."

[This story was originally published at 4:36 p.m. ET on 02.15.2007]

For more on Audioslave's historic gig in Cuba, see "History Made and Audio Saved ? John Norris Reports From Cuba."

Geoff Boucher of the Los Angeles Times reports that RAGE AGAINST THE MACHINE will join the WU-TANG CLAN for three shows under the banner of Rock the Bells, the acclaimed hip-hop festival that kicks off in New York on July 28 and hits Southern California on Aug. 11.

The Southern California show will be at the National Orange Show Events Center in San Bernardino while the third show, on Aug. 18, will be in San Francisco. The sites of the New York and San Francisco shows as well as ticket sales information will be announced by organizers on Monday.

RAGE is already the closing-night headliner of the Coachella Valley Music and Arts Festival on April 29 in Indio, a festival that sold out 80 days in advance due to the pent-up fan demand for the Los Angeles band. RAGE played their last show in 2000.

That Coachella show was announced as a "one-and-done" affair but the quick sellout and the harsh-priced ticket scalping already underway are among the factors in the added shows, according to sources close to the band. There's also the historical punch of performing with WU-TANG CLAN, one of the most ambitious and influential hip-hop outfits ever.

"RAGE will do four shows and just four in 2007," said Chang Weisberg, the founder of Guerilla Union and organizer of Rock the Bells. "Coachella is first, that's the granddaddy. And now these three with the WU-TANG CLAN represent a very, very special thing."

fuck where can i get tickets to the nyc show??

So we've gone from a "one-off" show to four shows for RAGE...excellent news.  Even better, the quote says they'll do "just four (shows) in 2007."  Seems to me to be a bit of a play on words.  Here's hoping that many more follow in 2008, and that Rage is back to stay.

someone please help! Where can i get tickets to see rage in nyc?? Please help me. THANKS!!

Launch Radio Networks reports: Tom Morello and Zack De La Rocha, the guitarist and singer, respectively, of RAGE AGAINST THE MACHINE, took to the stage together for the first time in nearly seven years in Chicago on Saturday (April 14). Their appearance was part of a demonstration and rally-turned-celebration for the Coalition of Immokalee Workers, an organization of immigrant farm workers who pick vegetables for big businesses like McDonald's.

The rally was meant to be a protest, but just before the march was to begin, a McDonald's rep told the crowd their demands had been met. So the rally, due to inclement weather and that fact that it was now a celebration of the news of the agreement, moved indoors at the House of Blues.

The set started out with Morello coming out alone as THE NIGHTWATCHMAN, performing several songs from his upcoming "One Man Revolution" CD. After that, De La Rocha took the stage to perform a brand new song about the event that he had written on the plane ride from Los Angeles to Chicago.

At that point Morello joined in, and the duo performed the RAGE AGAINST THE MACHINE songs "People of the Sun", "Bulls on Parade" and "Down Rodeo".

I really hope they decide to do some more shows on their own, not festivals, I'd really like to get a chance see them since im going to miss out on Coachella.

I thought at first this was going to be a negative article, but it turned out fine.  It's about RATM in the context of band reunions in general.

April 22, 2007
New York Times

Not Reunions, Reinventions (Back and Better. Really.)
By BEN RATLIFF

WAS that a queasy feeling you had recently, when you authorized payment on a $300 ticket for this summer?s Police reunion concert? What about that weird web of logic that made $249 for a three-day pass to the Coachella Festival next weekend seem an allowable expense, because you?d be seeing Rage Against the Machine, the radical-leftist punk-funk band that wrote timely songs challenging the domination of real-life power structures ... until 2000, when it ceased to exist?

And was that a shadow across your face the other day, when your friends were talking about the greatest rock shows ever, and someone asked if you?d ever seen the Pixies? ?Yes,? you said, brightly. But you qualified that. ?I saw them on their second reunion tour in 2005,? you murmured. Then you left the room, looking guilty.

We are going to have to come to terms with all these feelings, because reunion shows will soon become a much more normal concertgoing experience than we ever knew. More than that: I think we can meet them with an open mind.

If these reunited bands meant something to you in an earlier time, perhaps you?re feeling the dirty power of money, or the lameness of aging. (Maybe you really can afford that ticket now. Maybe it isn?t such a drag to drive to the stadium. At least you know there?s parking.) Perhaps some part of you tells you that you don?t deserve it; you didn?t put in your time in the rooms where that band started out, at CBGB, or the Rat, or North London Polytechnic, or wherever.

Or maybe something about these events feels broadly, even comically, illegitimate. Aren?t we supposed to form a community of taste around living culture, not afterlife culture? Isn?t a great band supposed to be more than just a band, but an embodiment of a particular age, a state of mind, a place? How do you identify, then, with an aging act whose members are well past their original states of mind, have mostly relocated to sunnier places, and whose prime motivation would appear to be making money through entertainment consortiums like AEG Live, which controls Goldenvoice, the concert promoter behind the Coachella Valley Music and Arts festival in California, and the pathbreaker in the marketing of recent-past reunions? And aren?t, say, 15 years of inactivity required before a reunion can be considered desirable?

Unless you are a lawyer or a promoter for one of these bands, all you have is your ears. Despite all the bien-pensant hand-wringing about how reunions smell fishy, a band is a band. It is not more powerful than the sound it generates on a certain stage at a certain hour, its grooves and tones and tension and release. It is made of musicians who are considered young for a while, and then become older. They play in a club, then maybe a stadium, and then maybe a club again. They have money disputes, or they don?t want to look at one another for a while, and they stop. Then the market changes in their favor, and they play again.

When Rage Against the Machine became popular in the ?90s, it seemed disconcerting that many of the band?s fans wanted to hear the sound of a metal chair bashed on a concrete floor rather than be alerted to new methods of revolutionary praxis. But it wasn?t the fans? fault: They were slaves to the whomp of that fuzz and funk, and the rhythm and pitch of Zack de la Rocha?s hectoring whine. The band?s sound eclipsed the higher brain functions, at least for a few minutes at a time.

More and more of my working life, it seems, is predicated on whether I can find a band playing a song for the 4,000th time to be in any degree convincing. I do, increasingly. I used to feel allergic to reunions. For each band I?d seen in its prime, I had an image in my mind and thought it worth protecting. Worse yet, I grew skeptical of bands as they moved past the 20-year mark.

But those shows over the last few years by the reunited Pixies and Stooges, they were loud and rude and fantastic. And they were judicious. Through their set lists, they located the potential excitement in the task of explaining what the bands had been all about.

It was a fundamentally weird decision for each of those bands to re-form earlier this decade. I don?t mean that they didn?t know a dollar when they saw it. Issues of credibility run to the marrow of a band like the Pixies. Now that we?re into the era of indie-rock reunions, we have to realize the bohemian rock culture of the ?80s nurtured the idea that credibility is more important than money, even more so than the bohemian rock culture of the ?60s had. But the Pixies and the Stooges were examples of reunions that ended up being more successful than a band?s original iteration. This is the part that seems new, and this is the part we will likely see more often, as long as a band has the platform of a Coachella or a Bonnaroo ? or any of the other sophisticated new festivals ? to stage its rebirth.

If you had working knowledge of the Pixies? and Stooges? albums, you may have been stunned by how sophisticated live sound has become since those bands disappeared the first time, and how they have adapted the advances to their own needs. And what about the best of those who never formally went away ? a band like Slayer, a performer like Prince? They carry so much maturity after more than 20 years that even if they don?t retain perpetual youth, they have something that might be more important: complete control over their own sound.

I realize that this view might seem to decontextualize music, and even depoliticize it, which might be problematic with Rage Against the Machine. But isn?t it more accurate to see music as music, and not as philosophy or policy? (Put it another way: If you admired Rage specifically for being a forthright radical-left political band, how could you ever forgive it for being absent through George W. Bush?s presidency to this point, only showing up after the Democratic landslide of the midterm elections?)

contd....

There?s nothing new about an aura around a cultural event growing in proportion to the unlikeliness of its happening. Long before the Pixies, Pete Seeger, with the reconvened Weavers, sold out Carnegie Hall in 1955. Django Reinhardt and Stephane Grappelli?s recordings from 1946 can seem to have a bittersweet, lived-in feeling, made after the two musicians were geographically separated by war for some years. Gilbert and Sullivan?s reunion operetta, ?Utopia Limited? in 1893, benefited at the time from publicity about its circumstances: It followed a two-year breakup between Gilbert and Sullivan provoked by a lawsuit.

But there really is a lot of high-profile reuniting this summer: the Police will begin its first tour in 21 years. Genesis will tour for the first time in 15; Crowded House, 11; the Jesus and Mary Chain, 9; Squeeze, 8; Rage Against the Machine, 7; Smashing Pumpkins ? if you count two of four members a reunion ? 7. The members of the original Van Halen nearly made it to the starting gate for the first time in 22 years, but called their summer tour off in February.

There are clear reasons for this trend. We?re seeing the winnowing of the live-music era in America, as well as the end of belief in the album. Any crisis of belief leads to sanctification and orthodoxy; people want to see the saints work their magic. Ashley Capps, who helps produce mid-June?s Bonnaroo festival in Manchester, Tenn. ? which has booked the Police as one of its headliners this year ? put it in a slightly simpler way. ?When I was growing up, the release of an album was an event,? he said. ?We?ve moved away from the notion that the release of a recording is an event. Somebody can release a great album and get fantastic reviews and everybody?s talking about it, but how long does that last? Six weeks? In that sense, live performances are becoming the important event.?

Gary Bongiovanni, editor of Pollstar, the concert-industry magazine, is so used to old acts propping up the industry that he doesn?t believe this year?s picture is substantially different. ?Last year you had Bob Seger, this year you have Genesis,? he said evenly over the phone recently. He is not sure whether new bands ? Arcade Fire, say ? are striking deeply enough into the soul of the culture to necessitate their own reunions down the road. I think context will determine it. If there are lots of great new bands in the next 10 years, we won?t feel we need an Arcade Fire reunion. If there aren?t, we will.

It seems now that the audience position for rock is coming closer to that of jazz around the mid-1970s. Most of the forefathers are still with us; increasingly, they seem to have something important to teach us. And we are developing strange hungers for music of the not-so-distant past that might be bigger and deeper than the hunger we originally had. That feeling people talked about during the Pixies shows a few years ago ? the word ?eerie? was used a great deal ? seems similar to descriptions of the feeling generated in the Village Vanguard when Dexter Gordon played his comeback shows there in 1976, after living abroad. Since then, jazz has advanced into a culture of incessant re-experience, endless tributes. Actual reunions are barely noticed: a huge percentage of the music refers to great moments of the past. Yet that doesn?t mean that jazz can?t still be fantastic, even transformative. It is, all the time.

We have to allow for the possibility that Rage Against the Machine ? or the Police, or the Jesus and Mary Chain ? could be as good as it ever was, if perhaps a little more wizened, a little more skeptical. (It will depend on their practicing of course.) If you?re still looking for something sacred, it probably can?t be found in their values or politics or cult significance. It?s in you: It is your own reaction to how they sound. Nobody can take that away from you.  :)

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im going to see rage in nyc july 28th i cant wait and it sucks i have to sit through a lot of fucking gay ass rap shit. too bad rage and system arent touring together.

I'll be there! COachella 2007 ,  3 days!  :drool:

RAGE AGAINST THE MACHINE's first show in almost seven years brought Coachella to a stunning close Sunday night (April 29).

Under a simple red star backdrop, the staunchly political quartet treated the biggest crowd of the weekend to an explosive set that spanned the whole of the band's career.

Communication with the audience was was kept to a bare minimum, with Zach de la Rocha kick-starting the comeback with a simple introduction: "Good evening, we're RAGE AGAINST THE MACHINE from Los Angeles, California."

The anticipated anti-Bush tirade finally came during the last song of the main set, "Wake Up". "Our current administration needs to be tried, hung and shot," the singer boldly stated, according to MTV.com. "We need to treat them like the war criminals they are."

RAGE AGAINST THE MACHINE setlist:

01. Testify
02. Bulls On Parade
03. People Of The Sun
04. Bombtrack
05. Bullet In The Head
06. Down Rodeo
07. Guerrilla Radio
08. Renegades Of Funk (AFRIKA BAMBAATAA cover)
09. Calm Like A Bomb
10. Sleep Now In The Fire
11. Wake Up
12. Freedom
13. Killing In The Name

I was there, and the show was AWESOME!!!!  :yes:

well they are only doing a few more dates in America cuz Tom Morello has some stuff to do with The Nightwatchman, his side project.? but i'm hoping after that they will decide to either record an album, or tour, or record an album and THEN tour.

i hope someone filmed this show. it would be great to see their return

holy shit what an awesome setlist

yea any record audio video anything?? But dont worry nyc show im going to it and i will have a recorder.

yeah there is some footage on youtube, just some clips, not that great quality.

http://anonym.to/?http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nyFBpBUxomc

yeyyewsegyuiwyeyeyeyey ??? ??? ??? another NYC show announced with rage july 29th get the tickets now!!! It was just emailed to me, any who missed out the first time go to the site now :beer: :beer: :drool: :drool:

 i see zack is sporting a 'fro :smoking:

i'm thinking about going, my friend is all for it. but i saw all those rap groups involved.....? i dunno, i mean Rage will probably come on last right? so we'll have to sit through all that rap?

o well, its definitely worth it, ill try to get tix friday.

Dude just get shit faced b4 hand. The ticket says no tailgating so im assuming they support drunk driving :beer:

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RATM at Coachella :beer:

i wish i was there is the pit that night! :o

Classic Zach quote from coachella:

Rage Against The Machine got angry at last weekend's Coachella festival and showed their dislike for the Bush administration.

According to NBC, during their performance lead singer Zach de la Rocha compared Bush administration officials to Nazi war criminals.

He went on to say the current admin team should also be "tried and hung and shot", the news site reports.

The Coachella performance was the first time Rage Against The Machine had played live together since reforming this year.
http://angryape.com/news/2007/05/rage-against-the-machine-compare-bush-to-nazi-war-criminals

Dude public Enemy, the roots, Nas, Wu-Tang are great rap groups. stick around you might actually like some of it. Especially Public enemy; simular to rage in a lot of ways

fuck that i hate rap! Ill probably kill someone if i have to sit though that shit. Walking around nyc getting shit faced then going in to see rage sounds much better to me :beer:

Zach De la Rocha can go Fuck himself.  The dude looks like Justin Guarini and hasn't been doing shit for 7 years and thinks he's king shit. Just bashing everything got old around 1998, is that all he can do when he's on stage??

Bashing never gets old, unless you are the bashee........

YOU go fuck himself!
Zach IS the king shit, deal with it!

Will they be doing any kinda tour ?

Rock and roll legend Ted Nugent ? who has become both popular and criticized for his support for hunting and conservative political views ? and conservative commentator Ann Coulter appeared on the "Hannity & Colmes" program on FOX News on Wednesday (May 2) to discuss RAGE AGAINST THE MACHINE singer Zack de la Rocha's onstage proclamation at this past weekend's Coachella festival that the "current administration . . . should be hung and tried and shot." Zack then reportedly added, "We need to treat them like the war criminals they are."

"We've disagreed with a lot of administrations in the past, but none of our rhetoric included threatening lives," Nugent said during his appearance on the program. "These guys [RAGE] are over the top, but they're the lunatic fringe that even your average democrat and liberal doesn't agree with. But unfortunately, nobody is silencing these guys ? or not necessarily silencing, but condemning this outrageous violence that they're recommending."

Watch the entire "Hannity & Colmes" segment featuring Nugent and Coulter at this location. (go to link to view link).

http://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=71727

gonna try to get tix tommorow. hope it works out. the first show sold out in 20 minutes i think.

i'm listening to "War Within A Breath" now, badass song.

I just dont get how you can like Rage and not have any interest or respect for Public Enemy. For gods sake Zach and Chuck D have been working on songs together while rage was broken up.  Go listen to "fight the power", "Burn Hollywood Burn", or "Rebel Without A Pause"  and tell me they are not good.

the was talk about zack de la rocha being arrested for what he said at coachella.

After weeks of rumors and speculation, RAGE AGAINST THE MACHINE has officially confirmed its only Midwest date on August 24 the Alpine Valley Music Theater in East Troy, Wisconsin. Support at the show will come from QUEENS OF THE STONE AGE. Tickets go on sale June 16.

I wonder if a new CD is on the way...

Launch Radio Networks reports: RAGE AGAINST THE MACHINE has launched two online countdowns at RATM82407.com, with one clock counting down to Monday, June 11, and the other to August 24. Sources have told Launch that if you go to the site and change the system clock on your own computer to a date after June 11, the site displays an announcement for a RAGE concert on August 24 at the Alpine Valley Music Theater in East Troy, Wisconsin. According to the site, tickets for the show will go on sale next Saturday, June 16, at 10:00 a.m.

While the Alpine Valley website has listed a RAGE concert at the venue on August 24, there has been no official confirmation of that show until now, and there is no word yet on whether it will be part of a full-fledged tour. Following the band's first performance in seven years at the Coachella Festival in April, its only other confirmed gigs are four dates on the Rock The Bells tour, in late July in New York City and in mid-August in California.

There's also been speculation that August 24 will see the release of a live album taped at Coachella or new studio material from the band, or simply an official announcement that the band is RAGE reuniting permanently.

RAGE guitarist Tom Morello recently told Launch that the initial impetus to reactivate the band was not financial but political. "People never stopped offering RAGE shows throughout the whole seven years while the band was gone," he said. "But we got together, and taking a look at the dire times that we live in and, you know, RAGE was certainly the most outspoken political voice in rock music throughout the Nineties, I mean, I think it's long overdue that RAGE comes back and has a say."

Meanwhile, Morello is keeping busy on the road as his political folk alter ago THE NIGHTWATCHMAN, with dates scheduled through this month and July.

http://ratm82407.com/

http://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=74166

RAGE AGAINST THE MACHINE has announced three dates in Japan in February 2008. The details are as follows:

Feb. 07 - Osaka Castle Hall
Feb. 09 - Tokyo Makuhari Messe
Feb. 10 - Tokyo Makuhari Messe

Tickets go on sale on November 17.

awesome for the japaneez  :)


hope they come to europe.. or well i hope they come to sweden or denmark

just went to the RATM web site http://www.ratm.com/ and saw that they will go to australia in january!

and appearantly they played a show last weekend in vegas i think.. at the "VEGOOSE Music Festival"
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and here's a pretty good quality video from coachella, testify http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=tfhJV9FZGAk

and as i said they will be in australia in january:

01.18.2008 Auckland, NZ Big Day Out
01.20.2008 Gold Coast, AU Big Day Out
01.22.2008 Haymarket, Ne Sydney Entertainment Centre
01.25.2008 Sydney, AU Big Day Out
01.27.2008 West Melbourne, AU Festival Hall
01.28.2008 Melbourne, AU Big Day Out
02.01.2008 Adelaide, AU Big Day Out
02.03.2008 Perth, AU Big Day Out

and then Japan as malmcolm said:

02.07.2008 Osaka, JP Castle Hall
02.09.2008 Tokyo, JP Makuhari Messe
02.10.2008 Tokyo, JP Makuhari Messe


i think there's a big chance we'll get some pro shot from "big day out" dont ya think? :D

and also if they tour that much i hope they go in to the studio and tour europe :drool:

morello said this about new record though:

"There are no plans to do that? That's a whole other ball of wax right there. Writing and recording albums is a whole different thing than getting back on the bike (laughs), you know, and playing these songs. But I think that the one thing about the Rage catalog is that to me none of it feels dated. You know, it doesn't feel at all like a nostalgia show. It feels like these are songs that were born and bred to be played now."

there might be a official DVD from coachella too http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=gEjDVU990yM

maybe all this shit i say is old but i don't care :P

Well. I thought the rumor was true and it looks to be solid! Please play more dates in the states. This is a great band.

Breaking News 12/06/07: RAGE AGAINST THE MACHINE TO HEADLINE Rock Am Ring AND Rock Im Park FESTIVALS
Rage Against The Machine are back and have confirmed their headline appearances.
After a longer absence the band will finally be back at Ring & Park, after delievering legendary gigs in 1994, 1996 and the year 2000. More Info coming soon!!

Play Dates:
Rock Am Ring - June 6th
Rock Im Park - June 7th

Festival Homepages:
www.rock-am-ring.com
www.rock-im-park.com

Ticket Links:
www.eventim.de
www.tpp.de
_____________________________________

Oh my fucking god! Here's to hoping for a afull blown Europeean tour (come to sweden FFS)? :beer:

I do hope they have another album in them somewhere down the line, though.  They definitely left a unique void when they stopped recording...

all fucking right i'll see them this summer!!

as i said yesterday..

Breaking News 02/12/08: RAGE AGAINST THE MACHINE RETURNS TO HULTSFRED TO HEADLINE THE FESTIVAL! June 12th, 2008
We are extremely proud to present this year's headliner - RAGE AGAINST THE MACHINE Rage Against The Machine proved that you actually can change the world with music when they released their self titled debut in 1992. With their radical lyrics and progressive music they invented a totally new musical genre and made a whole generation of youth aware of all the injustices of modern society. In 2000, the same year that the band released their fourth and final album , Rage Against The Machine visited the Hultsfred Festival for the second time. During the show the moshing audience was so wild that the Seismological Institute in Uppsala (400 km away) reported that there must have been a minor earthquake in Hultsfred! We have dreamt about the day when we could announce that Rage Against The Machine would return to Hultsfred ever since they revealed their reunion plans last year. Today is that day!! Today we are extremely proud to present one of the largest, greatest, and most influencal bands, of our time, will return to Hultsfred this summer. Tickets available: www.ticnet.se www.rockparty.se

other dates:
30 May - ELECTRIC WEEKEND - Getafe (Madrid)
1 June - PINKPOP 2008
2 June - Antwerp, Belgium
4 June - Paris, France
6 June - Rock Am Ring Festival
7 June - Rock Im Park Festival
10 June - ZITADELLE
12 June - Sweden - Hultsfred Festival <- I will so be there!!
10 July - Optimus Alive!08 - Oeiras - Lisbon

come ooonnnn now.. come to finland!!!! i hope theyre coming to provinssirock.. it's right after hultsfred.. if they wont come CheapJules I'll see you then @ hultsfred  ;D

sure as hell hope they come to finland then..  :hihi: just kiddin'

hope they stay in europe so you can see them in finland  :) i've heard they having a break in the european tour due to one member in the band is gonna be a dad, so for example roskilde can't book them  :-\

Update: i'll book the tickets in the upcoming hours :D

little Axl/CD mention  ;)


Zack de la Rocha discusses his new project, his old project and (of course) politics.
By Ann Powers
From the Los Angeles Times

August 12, 2008

THESE DAYS, the rock scene is low on mysterious figures. As the music has lost its countercultural edge, many of its champions have transformed into average celebrities, happy to speak into any microphone that wanders by. That's not true of Zack de la Rocha: The Rage Against the Machine vocalist is the rare rock star who keeps his distance from the hype.

De la Rocha is as famous for his radical politics as for incendiary poetics. Between his retirement from Rage in 2000 and his recent reunion with the band, he's limited his public appearances to the occasional rally or benefit show. His musical output has been spare too: Only a few songs have seen light.

But this summer, the 38-year-old Southland native is back and seemingly unstoppable. He has a new musical project: One Day as a Lion, which pairs him with drummer Jon Theodore. . . . One Day as a Lion's self-titled debut EP, on Anti- Records, hit No. 28 on the Billboard charts with minimal media attention and is gaining traction nationally on rock radio. A full release will come in the fall.

De la Rocha has also found a way to embrace Rage again. A 2007 Coachella appearance marked the band's return as a live unit, and its shows have become major events. Earlier this month, Rage blazed through a set at Lollapalooza in Chicago, and the band has just announced a Sept. 3 Minneapolis date, which will serve as a protest against the Republican National Convention occurring simultaneously in St. Paul.

This burst of activity has even inspired De la Rocha to break his media silence. He spoke Monday by phone about the current state of political music, his creative process, and the future of One Day as a Lion -- and Rage Against the Machine.



How did One Day as a Lion come about?

I've known Jon for several years now, and I saw some of his first performances as a member of the Mars Volta. It was clear that music in L.A. was never going to be the same now that he was here! I've worked with some great drummers, but I hadn't seen drumming like that in a long time. So I immediately felt compelled to . . . pick his brain and find out what kind of music he was interested in.

Jon had a friend named Troy Zeigler, who now plays with Serj Tankian, and Troy had this very small rehearsal space where he would teach drum lessons. A couple of summers ago, Jon and I went in there to talk to Troy. He wasn't there. Jon sat down on one of the students' kits and started playing. The room was filled with random instruments -- there was percussive stuff, these old metal amps that hadn't been used in ages, and a dusty Rhodes keyboard with some broken keys. I plugged in through an old amp and ran it through this messed-up delay pedal that had a trigger on it and we immediately started playing. It felt like two people having a conversation using whatever phrases were at our disposal. We had to document it.



The EP came out with basically no hype. What was the strategy in releasing it that way?

I wish I could say there was a strategy involved. We felt that the collection of songs we had chosen had resonated with us and it was really something we wanted people to discover on their own. That's been missing from music, in a way; we've been marketed to so much, rather than people discovering something and picking it up.

When I heard Public Enemy for the first time, it was on the soundtrack for the movie "Less Than Zero," tucked between a Madonna song and some other '80s rehash. I was in a friend's car, he put the soundtrack on and I thought, "What is this junk?" When it got to "Bring the Noise," I had that kind of urgent reaction where you just had to stop what you're doing. It sounded like breaking news.



You've worked with many collaborators since leaving Rage, including Trent Reznor and DJ Shadow. Did what you learned from those experiments factor into Lion?

To an extent it did, and it didn't. When I left Rage . . . first off, I was very heartbroken, and secondly, I became obsessed with completely reinventing my wheel. In an unhealthy way, to a degree. I kind of forgot that old way of allowing yourself to just be a conduit. When I was working with Trent and Shadow, I felt that I was going through the motions. Not that what was produced wasn't great, but I feel now that I've maybe reinvented the base sounds that emanate from the songs.



The first single is called "Wild International." That implies global politics from the get-go. How does your work fit into that scenario?

I'm speaking toward a deeper sentiment that I feel and I know a lot of people feel. Most of the songs have to do with redemptive moments that come in the face of some real indignity. And that's the current that I'm trying to tap into, because I think that for a lot of people -- for the real participants who've been left out of the debate, who live in the shadows and work at car washes and are forced to cross the border and are struggling and facing the real economic consequences -- they're often left out of the debate, on the right and the left, because of the language they speak or even the terminology that they use. They're out working every day, facing the real consequences of living in this country.

So it stems from my own frustration. It stems from seeing how things have been developing politically, and watching so much dissatisfaction and people very upset about the way the country is going. And watching all of that frustration steered back into a more traditional political process. The problems stem far deeper than anything that Brother Obama can address, and eventually people are going to have to respond.



On the surface, some of these new songs seem very anti-religious, including the single.

I don't see it as an anti-religious song. I see it as the West has been using Christianity as a way to justify its actions when in reality, those figures, Christ and Muhammad, were rebels. These two religious figures have been co-opted to justify power, although they fought against the abuses of power and the expansion of empire. It's almost like, what would Christ and Muhammad do?

contd...

What do you think of the state of political art now? Sometimes it seems to have really died down, what with a mainstream full of teen pop and reality television.

I'm listening to things all the time. There have been eight years of the Bush administration and the decline of real wages, and people are responding. It's unfortunate that more conscious artists or political artists in general haven't been heard in the mainstream. But I think back to when I was going to hardcore shows and I saw the Bad Brains, those moments resonate and are life-altering moments. Those people who were at those shows have become artists or activists as a result of having their perspective shifted. . . . So I don't necessarily feel that music within the mainstream is always an indication of the political frustrations that exist beneath the surface.



How do those two elements of your own life -- activism and music-making -- intersect or diverge now?

I don't think the separation is valid, especially in these times. . . .

Participating in the Son Jarochos work [his activist work with urban farmers in South Central Los Angeles, which included playing folk music with the group Son de Madera] felt more community-based, more collective. I was part of a collective voice and not on my own as an artist, and something about that attracted me.

It's so funny, I've read a couple things someone said that there were bets being placed on who would finish their album first, Axl Rose or me. One joke was that Axl was calling his record "Chinese Democracy," and that there would be democracy in China by the time he finished! I laughed when I considered calling this record "American Democracy." But I kinda spoke too soon on that!



It's an election year here in the U.S. Did that factor into your decision to debut new music now?

I'd be lying if I said it was coincidental. I think that it's an interesting moment. The lowest approval rating in the history of any presidency -- and for Congress. There's this interesting rupture developing, and I think it's a healthy one.

To watch the Democrats, who were really our only institutional obstruction to this extremely rightward swing, fall in lock-step behind this new imperial fantasy that became reality, that was a pivotal moment. A lot of people began to question the whole nature of both parties. Now more than ever, there's a more fertile ground for artists to try to reveal the nature of both parties, who are mainly the public relations team for transnational corporations.

Barack is clearly the most viable candidate, the most intelligent, the one with the most forward-thinking position, but I would hate to see the flames of discontent be watered down by rhetorical visions of hope and change, when historically those things have only come from immigrant workers or people fighting against segregation, or against the second-class position of women.

You've been touring with Rage again. What is your relationship like with those guys now?

So much has changed. When you get older, you look back on tensions and grievances and have another perspective on it. I think our relationship now is better than it's ever been. I would even describe it as great. We're going to keep playing shows -- we have a couple of big ones happening in front of both conventions. As far as us recording music in the future, I don't know where we all fit with that. We've all embraced each other's projects and support them, and that's great.



Can we look forward to some live Lion gigs in the near future?

Definitely. I've always hoped that a project I was involved in could be a little more spontaneous, set up on a block and play. Me and Jon see eye to eye on doing that.



Meanwhile, Rage is playing in Minneapolis the same night the Republican convention happens in St. Paul. What do you anticipate for that show?

You're gonna have to come and cover it. I think we both know what we expect. Good shoes would help. And you might wanna dip that bandanna in some vinegar.

rage is fucking awesome

THEY PLAYED A NEW SONG!!!

what the fyuck!!??? :drool: :drool: :o

edit: was it just a "one day as a lion" song?