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Title: Chinese Democracy now on Cdwow as well with prov. tracklist
Post by: KaptainKuntra on January 15, 2007, 07:11:58 AM
I know the artwork and tracklist are wrong, but this is the first time they've ever listed it for release...

http://www13.cd-wow.com/detail_results.php?product_code=1866788


Title: Re: Chinese Democracy now on Cdwow as well with prov. tracklist
Post by: duga on January 15, 2007, 07:26:41 AM
I like the picture.  ;)


Title: Re: Chinese Democracy now on Cdwow as well with prov. tracklist
Post by: KaptainKuntra on January 15, 2007, 07:28:03 AM
Yeah its from the 2002 tour isnt it.


Title: Re: Chinese Democracy now on Cdwow as well with prov. tracklist
Post by: grog mug on January 15, 2007, 07:30:50 AM
If it was CDNOW I would trust it.  What the hell is CDWOW?  I have that poster hanging up in my room, from 2001-2002 time period...def. WILL NOT be the album cover.


Title: Re: Chinese Democracy now on Cdwow as well with prov. tracklist
Post by: 2007what! on January 15, 2007, 07:34:55 AM
why do they always gotta do this?


Title: Re: Chinese Democracy now on Cdwow as well with prov. tracklist
Post by: polluxlm on January 15, 2007, 07:37:59 AM
why do they always gotta do this?

$$$$$


Title: Re: Chinese Democracy now on Cdwow as well with prov. tracklist
Post by: Howard2k on January 15, 2007, 07:38:27 AM
Just trying to get a jump on pre-sales.... 


Title: Re: Chinese Democracy now on Cdwow as well with prov. tracklist
Post by: The Legend on January 15, 2007, 07:44:45 AM
Who the fuck is CD-wow?


Title: Re: Chinese Democracy now on Cdwow as well with prov. tracklist
Post by: KaptainKuntra on January 15, 2007, 07:50:02 AM
CDWOW is pretty big over here in the UK, online supplier of cds,dvds etc. They have never listed Chinese Democracy before, unlike HMV etc.


Title: Re: Chinese Democracy now on Cdwow as well with prov. tracklist
Post by: hackvresse on January 15, 2007, 07:55:43 AM
CDWOW is big in Europe, it's a good onlineshop


Title: Re: Chinese Democracy now on Cdwow as well with prov. tracklist
Post by: quarky on January 15, 2007, 07:57:03 AM
?7.99  :o


Title: Re: Chinese Democracy now on Cdwow as well with prov. tracklist
Post by: samoice on January 15, 2007, 08:10:43 AM
well it is nearly  month away from the release .. bout time more shops put it p for pre sales . next all we need is amazon to put it up .


Title: Re: Chinese Democracy now on Cdwow as well with prov. tracklist
Post by: DemocracyRose on January 15, 2007, 08:17:52 AM
I guess it means nothing...


Title: Re: Chinese Democracy now on Cdwow as well with prov. tracklist
Post by: ronie on January 15, 2007, 08:22:59 AM
This thing reminds me of..."people will hear some music this year" or "fall, late fall" or "it is this year" or 12 tuesdays between now and the end of the world...so boring...But the track list looks good though ?:)


Title: Re: Chinese Democracy now on Cdwow as well with prov. tracklist
Post by: bushkarocks!! on January 15, 2007, 08:23:11 AM
it always takes cdwow long to deliver
in the speed they work the cd will come two weeks after its released


Title: Re: Chinese Democracy now on Cdwow as well with prov. tracklist
Post by: samoice on January 15, 2007, 08:40:13 AM
on anyone elses cd wow orders have u noticed a hong kiong stamp on the package ? :o


Title: Re: Chinese Democracy now on Cdwow as well with prov. tracklist
Post by: KaptainKuntra on January 15, 2007, 08:52:27 AM
Yeah thats how they are so cheap. Most of play.com's stuff comes from Jersey in a similar way, avoiding duty etc.


Title: Re: Chinese Democracy now on Cdwow as well with prov. tracklist
Post by: HBK on January 15, 2007, 09:19:07 AM

ejejejje, This Funny, thankz

hbk *


Title: Re: Chinese Democracy now on Cdwow as well with prov. tracklist
Post by: smugolo on January 15, 2007, 09:22:20 AM
this means nothing and is irrelevant, just like the hmv and play.com listings

until they get the official word, it's all guess work


Title: Re: Chinese Democracy now on Cdwow as well with prov. tracklist
Post by: god of thunder on January 15, 2007, 10:14:30 AM
CD Wow is quite big...they are an online retailer for CDs and DVDs based in HongKong. They ship to all of Europe; ordered myself there a couple of times. It is very interesting to see them list it, because usually they do not advertise CDs long before the release. If I would not know better then I would think that a release is very close!!!!!


Title: Re: Chinese Democracy now on Cdwow as well with prov. tracklist
Post by: Robman? on January 15, 2007, 10:27:05 AM
?7.99  :o

Thats in pounds, not dollars. So it sounds about right  ;)


Title: Re: Chinese Democracy now on Cdwow as well with prov. tracklist
Post by: rds.06 on January 15, 2007, 10:27:10 AM
CD Wow is quite big...they are an online retailer for CDs and DVDs based in HongKong. They ship to all of Europe; ordered myself there a couple of times. It is very interesting to see them list it, because usually they do not advertise CDs long before the release. If I would not know better then I would think that a release is very close!!!!!

Its an educated guess, once axl meantioned the 6th of March all these companies will work around that. But it shows that the wheels are in motion. : ok:


Title: Re: Chinese Democracy now on Cdwow as well with prov. tracklist
Post by: quarky on January 15, 2007, 11:08:41 AM
?7.99? :o

Thats in pounds, not dollars. So it sounds about right? ;)

I know, but still cheap. I don't buy many CD's anymore, but still expect to pay more than that. Maybe ?9.99.. Still, is it worth saving the extra couple of quid to wait for delivery... Naaah.


Title: Re: Chinese Democracy now on Cdwow as well with prov. tracklist
Post by: cheeser on January 15, 2007, 11:38:04 AM
Did anyone actually order this?  what will happen?


Title: Re: Chinese Democracy now on Cdwow as well with prov. tracklist
Post by: pollyblue on January 15, 2007, 11:50:42 AM
I like the picture.? ;)

i saw that picture used on a dvd cover for a movie a few months ago. don't remember what movie it was.


Title: Re: Chinese Democracy now on Cdwow as well with prov. tracklist
Post by: kyrie on January 15, 2007, 11:55:19 AM
?7.99  :o

Thats in pounds, not dollars. So it sounds about right  ;)

I know, but still cheap. I don't buy many CD's anymore, but still expect to pay more than that. Maybe ?9.99.. Still, is it worth saving the extra couple of quid to wait for delivery... Naaah.

I bought Tool - 10,000 Days for 9.99$ Canadian the day it came out. So that's pretty much average. The labels are now paying for the lawsuits, price fixing, root kits, etc. They need to do everything they can to regain consumer trust.


Title: Re: Chinese Democracy now on Cdwow as well with prov. tracklist
Post by: GeraldFord on January 15, 2007, 11:59:19 AM
Somehow I doubt that's the artwork.


Title: Re: Chinese Democracy now on Cdwow as well with prov. tracklist
Post by: bazgnr on January 15, 2007, 12:01:37 PM
I hope not.  I personally don't like that cover at all.  Not quite as "epic" or "timeless" as the UYI covers, or AFD, really. 

But really, I'm not about to gripe about the artwork.  If the album comes in a brown paper bag, I could care less.

And I can't imagine that tracklist as accurate...


Title: Re: Chinese Democracy now on Cdwow as well with prov. tracklist
Post by: ppbebe on January 15, 2007, 12:06:48 PM
Release / Despatch Date: Sunday 5 Mar :rofl:

http://www13.cd-wow.com/prerel.php?bottomlimit=72&toplimit=96&subcat=


Title: Re: Chinese Democracy now on Cdwow as well with prov. tracklist
Post by: Randy Jesus on January 15, 2007, 12:47:58 PM
I hope not.  I personally don't like that cover at all.  Not quite as "epic" or "timeless" as the UYI covers, or AFD, really. 

But really, I'm not about to gripe about the artwork.  If the album comes in a brown paper bag, I could care less.

And I can't imagine that tracklist as accurate...

They most likely pulled it off from MyGNR.com


Title: Re: Chinese Democracy now on Cdwow as well with prov. tracklist
Post by: SLCPUNK on January 15, 2007, 12:53:33 PM
Somehow I doubt that's the artwork.

I'm sure it's not, just like it's not the tracklisting.

They probably got wind that it was coming and yanked the info off a forum.



Title: Re: Chinese Democracy now on Cdwow as well with prov. tracklist
Post by: KaptainKuntra on January 15, 2007, 01:01:06 PM
Agreed, I doubt the artwork and tracklisting, but I really can't see that fairly large online retailers would have people going through internet forums looking for CD release dates, I think they must have heard the date elsewhere.


Title: Re: Chinese Democracy now on Cdwow as well with prov. tracklist
Post by: ppbebe on January 15, 2007, 01:11:42 PM
Quote
I think they must have heard the date elsewhere.

Agreed. no forum would tell them the 5th of march is a Sunday just for GNR. :yes:


Title: Re: Chinese Democracy now on Cdwow as well with prov. tracklist
Post by: GNRfan2008 on January 15, 2007, 02:03:50 PM
?7.99  :o

Isn't that equivalent to $15 in the U.S.? So what's so shocking about it? It's NOT a double album so there's really no reason the price should be higher than that.


Title: Re: Chinese Democracy now on Cdwow as well with prov. tracklist
Post by: BurningHills on January 15, 2007, 02:16:09 PM
Another useless "OMG, THIS SITE HAS CD UP TO BUY!!" thread. If there were so reliable, they wouldn't put up a fake album cover and track listing.


Title: Re: Chinese Democracy now on Cdwow as well with prov. tracklist
Post by: bringbackadler on January 15, 2007, 02:18:17 PM
Another useless "OMG, THIS SITE HAS CD UP TO BUY!!" thread. If there were so reliable, they wouldn't put up a fake album cover and track listing.

It's nice to know I wasn't the only one who thought this.   : ok:


Title: Re: Chinese Democracy now on Cdwow as well with prov. tracklist
Post by: WARose on January 15, 2007, 02:38:55 PM
Another useless "OMG, THIS SITE HAS CD UP TO BUY!!" thread. If there were so reliable, they wouldn't put up a fake album cover and track listing.

they mention, that it`s provisional....

it`s definitely not a bad sign to say the least....


Title: Re: Chinese Democracy now on Cdwow as well with prov. tracklist
Post by: gally on January 15, 2007, 02:46:00 PM

the track listing looks respectable,

cdwow would not pull it off a fansite etc. why would they?

looks promising.


Title: Re: Chinese Democracy now on Cdwow as well with prov. tracklist
Post by: DarrenLeves on January 15, 2007, 02:48:45 PM
Another useless "OMG, THIS SITE HAS CD UP TO BUY!!" thread. If there were so reliable, they wouldn't put up a fake album cover and track listing.

Im sure if no website had it listed as 'Upcomming' there would be even more threads on here saying they are worried that no one is doing a pre-release awarness


Title: Re: Chinese Democracy now on Cdwow as well with prov. tracklist
Post by: BurningHills on January 15, 2007, 03:03:28 PM

the track listing looks respectable,

cdwow would not pull it off a fansite etc. why would they?

looks promising.

Its not respectable at all.

Dizzy has said that Rhiad and Silkworms won't be on the album, and they're not going to put a 7 year old soundtrack song on the album either - re-recorded version or not.


Title: Re: Chinese Democracy now on Cdwow as well with prov. tracklist
Post by: quarky on January 15, 2007, 03:38:49 PM
?7.99? :o

Isn't that equivalent to $15 in the U.S.? So what's so shocking about it? It's NOT a double album so there's really no reason the price should be higher than that.

In the UK, we pay more, so the rest of the world can have cheaper goods, so get down on your knee's and thank us : ok:? :)


Title: Re: Chinese Democracy now on Cdwow as well with prov. tracklist
Post by: Megaguns on January 15, 2007, 03:40:03 PM
well it is nearly? month away from the release .. bout time more shops put it p for pre sales . next all we need is amazon to put it up .
I still dont understand how people still think March the 6th is the date, Axl said "tentative". Promotion has not even started yet, Id bet $1000 right now that we dont get it on the 6th.


Title: Re: Chinese Democracy now on Cdwow as well with prov. tracklist
Post by: GNRreunioneventually on January 15, 2007, 04:45:14 PM
i like the art work but the track list is bull shit
 :-\


Title: Re: Chinese Democracy now on Cdwow as well with prov. tracklist
Post by: BurningHills on January 15, 2007, 04:54:22 PM
i like the art work but the track list is bull shit
 :-\

So is the artwork.

Do you even bother reading the threads?


Title: Re: Chinese Democracy now on Cdwow as well with prov. tracklist
Post by: kollemann on January 15, 2007, 05:06:53 PM
The next one....


Title: Re: Chinese Democracy now on Cdwow as well with prov. tracklist
Post by: GNRreunioneventually on January 15, 2007, 05:08:01 PM
i like the art work but the track list is bull shit
 :-\

So is the artwork.

Do you even bother reading the threads?

 why dont you read my post again, i said i like the art work but the track list is bull shit meaning i know its the art work but THE TRACK LIST IS BULL SHIT............................................... :rant:


Title: Re: Chinese Democracy now on Cdwow as well with prov. tracklist
Post by: ppbebe on January 15, 2007, 05:13:45 PM
I think he means the artwork, although you like it, is not legit either.


Title: Re: Chinese Democracy now on Cdwow as well with prov. tracklist
Post by: Communist China on January 15, 2007, 05:17:54 PM
Don't even waste our time showing us that garbage.


Title: Re: Chinese Democracy now on Cdwow as well with prov. tracklist
Post by: deadflowerII on January 15, 2007, 05:36:42 PM
SILWORMS!!!???......OH MY GOD!!!????......I'll Be Pissed.....Fuck that. :peace:


Title: Re: Chinese Democracy now on Cdwow as well with prov. tracklist
Post by: GnR-NOW on January 15, 2007, 08:26:58 PM
does anyone think that the song chinese democracy will have the same intro as it did on the tour?


Title: Re: Chinese Democracy now on Cdwow as well with prov. tracklist
Post by: Eclipsed107 on January 15, 2007, 09:27:05 PM
I'm sure that CD will have the same intro, which kinda sucks for me because I much pefer the old intro.

I like the Chinese sound before the song, but once the guitar kicks in I pefer the old intro.


Title: Re: Chinese Democracy now on Cdwow as well with prov. tracklist
Post by: bazgnr on January 15, 2007, 09:33:01 PM
SILWORMS!!!???......OH MY GOD!!!????......I'll Be Pissed.....Fuck that. :peace:

I really doubt that's the actual track list.  I wouldn't get too upset at this point...


Title: Re: Chinese Democracy now on Cdwow as well with prov. tracklist
Post by: GnFnR87 on January 15, 2007, 09:34:40 PM
everyone needs to stop freaking out. do u realize how many fake tracklists we've seen over the years? even on sites like this??? its just a compilation of rumored titles and some new tracks that were played live etc... thats why it says "provisional track list".


Title: Re: Chinese Democracy now on Cdwow as well with prov. tracklist
Post by: Bruno Poeys on January 15, 2007, 09:58:58 PM
I'm sure that CD will have the same intro, which kinda sucks for me because I much pefer the old intro.

I like the Chinese sound before the song, but once the guitar kicks in I pefer the old intro.

You can't be serious... the new intro made me really like the song. I always said that CD is good but nothing impressive... but damn, after this new intro and new notes, new solo... I loved it!


Title: Re: Chinese Democracy now on Cdwow as well with prov. tracklist
Post by: The Legend on January 16, 2007, 08:53:36 AM
I'm sure that CD will have the same intro, which kinda sucks for me because I much pefer the old intro.

I like the Chinese sound before the song, but once the guitar kicks in I pefer the old intro.

You can't be serious... the new intro made me really like the song. I always said that CD is good but nothing impressive... but damn, after this new intro and new notes, new solo... I loved it!

I don't care either way. I like both versions of CD. 2002 & 2006.


Title: Re: Chinese Democracy now on Cdwow as well with prov. tracklist
Post by: Bartlet on January 16, 2007, 09:55:38 PM
CD Wow is quite big...they are an online retailer for CDs and DVDs based in HongKong. They ship to all of Europe; ordered myself there a couple of times. It is very interesting to see them list it, because usually they do not advertise CDs long before the release. If I would not know better then I would think that a release is very close!!!!!

Its an educated guess, once axl meantioned the 6th of March all these companies will work around that. But it shows that the wheels are in motion. : ok:


I'm sorry, but why can't people understand that it shows nothing of the sort? Experience should tell you that!

I'll have more faith when amazon (uk, as thats where i am) have it staring you in the face on the music section with the tracklist, artwork, price, and pre-orderable.

I think they have had it at the end of the list of GnR stuff in the past (without art or track list i think), but they probably wont really push it til the date is irreversibly official.

I'll then really believe it when ive heard it a couple times. That said, i am an optimist where march is concerned. Especially as axl said he'll tell us if things go wrong, so im operating on the no news is good news principle at the moment.


Title: Re: Chinese Democracy now on Cdwow as well with prov. tracklist
Post by: m on January 18, 2007, 05:46:06 AM
Looks like the CD has been removed from CD WOW.


Title: Re: Chinese Democracy now on Cdwow as well with prov. tracklist
Post by: KaptainKuntra on January 18, 2007, 06:09:46 AM
No, its still there and they've corrected the sunday 5th march to the monday 5th.

http://www13.cd-wow.com/detail_results.php?product_code=1866788


Title: Re: Chinese Democracy now on Cdwow as well with prov. tracklist
Post by: W. Adam S on January 18, 2007, 06:10:15 AM
Ive pre ordered from HMV, if it does come out will I get my copy on the release day?


Title: Re: Chinese Democracy now on Cdwow as well with prov. tracklist
Post by: yorkie81 on January 18, 2007, 06:15:56 AM
Ive pre ordered from HMV, if it does come out will I get my copy on the release day?

It depends, sometimes people who have pre-ordered CD's get them on the Saturday before the release date and sometimes they don't arrive until the tuesday or wednesday after.


Title: Re: Chinese Democracy now on Cdwow as well with prov. tracklist
Post by: slane92 on January 18, 2007, 11:52:21 AM
CD Wow is quite big...they are an online retailer for CDs and DVDs based in HongKong. They ship to all of Europe; ordered myself there a couple of times. It is very interesting to see them list it, because usually they do not advertise CDs long before the release. If I would not know better then I would think that a release is very close!!!!!

Cdwow is a big organisation and they dont list items lightly.

I think its a positive sign. Although clearly the artwork and provisional tracklist are not accurate. :no: :o


Title: Re: Chinese Democracy now on Cdwow as well with prov. tracklist
Post by: ppbebe on January 18, 2007, 12:02:03 PM
No, its still there and they've corrected the sunday 5th march to the monday 5th.

http://www13.cd-wow.com/detail_results.php?product_code=1866788

Good. I think there was no date at that page.


Title: Re: Chinese Democracy now on Cdwow as well with prov. tracklist
Post by: axleu on January 23, 2007, 06:39:30 AM
The biggest company in Switzerland (for music) has listed Chinese democracy, for the march 2nd:

http://www.citydisc.ch/music/detail.cfm?lang=f&section=&art_nr=9444813

(http://images6.theimagehosting.com/cd.056.th.jpg) (http://server6.theimagehosting.com/image.php?img=cd.056.jpg)

Cool thing: I'm really surprised they actually put a recent pic of Axl! :yes:

But let's hope the artwork will be better! ;D

Another Swiss site: http://www.cede.ch/fr/music-cd/frames/frameset.cfm?aobj=577685