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when gn'r played london in 2002 axl said we'd get the album "and 10 extra tracks", do you think this is still possible?, he also said they were playing songs that probaly won't make the album, these being maddy,the blues, chinese democracy and rhiad, any thoughts? (a great show by the way)

Argh...why does everyone always take this quote out of context?

AXL NEVER SAID THAT MADAGASCAR, THE BLUES, ETC. WOULD NOT BE ON THE ALBUM. HE SAID THAT THEY WOULDN'T BE SINGLES.

Sorry to yell, but everyone always gets that quote wrong and its fairly annoying at this point.

Here's the EXACT quote from gnrontour.com:

"After 'Chinese Democracy,' Axl says, "Now, there's been some concern... that if we play 5 or 6 new songs, then there can't that many more on the album. Au contraire mon fr?re! We're just playin' the songs we're not considering putting out as singles or anything. So you'll get 18 songs and about 10 extra tracks. And when that... when the record company feels that has run [it's] source, then you'll get it all over again. And by that time, I should be done with the 3rd album!"


Anyway - I assume that the 10 extra tracks will be b-sides to the singles.

They should save the extra tracks for Chinese Democracy II aka Use Your Illusion IV.

LOL Use Your Illusion IV, aint that the truth!

That was back in 2002. ?Im sure plans, songs etc have changed over the course of 5 years. ?I really wouldn't take what someone said 5 years ago as a plan set in stone. ?

just thought i'd ask the question..

Then why not use a more recent quote from 2006 where he says the album will have 13 songs and that they are working on 32 songs overall. ??? ???

yes, 26 were done or just about done.

Fuck the EXtra tracks, what happened to the album?

yeah, what the fuck is even an extra track, i've never got that ???

reminds me of Spinal Tap: "Fuck the napkin!!!"  :hihi:

But yeah, who really cares about extra tracks at this point?

The extra tracks need more cowbell.

Things change, y'a know...

i was there and he said a few things and I'm sure those were the intentions at the time. Nothing insincere about it. Next day something might have happened which completely changed things.

C'est la vie.

Soon is the word.

-Greg

cool dude, but actually nowadays tentative is the word :hihi:

I still think Chinese Democracy is going to be a double album. I seriously do. If I'm wrong, I'm wrong. I think a major part of the hold up at this point is the fact that it is going to be a double album. Oh well, we'll see here soon enough.   :yes: 

Didn't axl say it would be a single album last year? ???

yeah but he said a lot of things last year, ('cuz of merck :rant:)


but i atill think it'a gonna be a 13 track album, if it's moer i'll be more then glad :headbanger:

Its like people who talk about the 2nd or 3rd album

Fuck those, lets get 1 album THEN worry bout extra.

In the GNR world, there is no such thing as EXTRA.

i believe that once CHINESE DEMOCRACY is released Axl will get "album happy" and six or seven months after its release there might be a follow up then maybe another  then a greatest hits then who knows what but thats my prediction :yes:

i think whatever is to come of the extra tracks has changed. i bet the stuff that isnt on C.D. will be on the next album

"Extra tracks" had to have meant B-Sides and maybe bonus tracks for different versions of the album. For example, Japan will probably get one or two extra tracks on their version of the album but whether those may be actual studio tracks or live tracks is yet to be seen. But when they release singles, we will get B-Sides with them. I bet we will get at least 4 singles out of this album. MOST singles do have extra tracks on them and these could range from demos, acoustic versions of songs, live versions or a new studio track. So the "10 extra tracks" Axl had originally talked about could be any of these things. IT doesn't necessarily mean that we'll get 10 new studio tracks.

Although he did say this awhile ago, we will still be getting B-Sides no matter what, we just don't know how many or what we are getting.

or maybe a single cd with a tour dvd on the side?  ;D

Ditto. I'd lay pretty good odds things have changed since that quote from 2002.

Although at that time, even then, I felt CD, The Blues, and Rhiad were all B-sides. Madagascar was the only song I truely felt was going to be a staple for the album. I don't think that's changed.

my dog ate them :-X

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Did you say more cowbell?!!

I just want the album. If we get some extra tracks from the singles then cool if not cool. Just as long as the album is out.

In 2002, I always assumed that the "10 extra tracks" would be  the re-recordings of AFD that they were playing on tour (10 of the original 12). But so much has changed since then that I doubt that this quote has any meaning anymore.

That's what I always thought. I thought it'd be a double-disc release, Disc 1-CD / Disc 2-AFD revisted, and would feature most of Appetite, except omitting You're Crazy & Anything Goes. Just a theory.

We got one extra track in advance...

Catcher in The Rye

Singles are rarely released in stores anymore.  I'd be suprised if there was more than 1, hell I'd be suprised if there was even one..

I haven't seen a single in awhile.

With the price tag on this puppy, I don't see any "extra tracks" being released. They need to make every song count to recoup on their investment. :hihi:

I think Axl should choose 3 b-sides and put them on movie soundtracks or comilations....

2 b sides that would be good for this are..

Catcher In The Rye

Rhiad and The Bedouins

and maybe one other one we haven't heard yet.... :peace:

Just because singles aren't released in the United States doesn't mean they aren't released elsewhere. We were the only country dumb enough to gladly buy an album for one song if there wasn't a single available, so before long singles became obsolete in this country.

No, that's not true at all. What we got tired of, was paying $5 retail at most places for a single, when we could just buy the entire album for $5 more. We were the only country smart enough to catch on.

The bottom line is times have changed, and singles just aren't profitable anymore, at least in the U.S. I didn't even know people still did them overseas. With downloads becoming the huge format they have, anymore people just can't or won't shell down the cash for even the cheapest single. Unless a single is released, disc, artwork, n' all for only 99-cents American, most folks are just gonna jump on iTunes and download the track.

You're right, at least in the States the digital download really is the new single. I've always thought of the "single" as whatever gets released to radio for airplay.

in edmonton, canada  ive never seen a ingle ever
hell sometimes teh store doesnt havea  ny gnr. i was in an diego and seen the UYI in Tokyo on cd, thast never here, the gnr interview on cd, never here

Most places I go into nowadays, even here in the states, usually only carry GH.

I see AFD,
UYI (both I and II)
And Lies, when I look.

The Best Buy near me
Stocks "Spaghetti Incident"
Most  of the time, too.

Splash

/Mike

They damn well better not have AFD tracks on there, i will shit a brick.  I want new ass material and nothing but, they did not use all this time in the studio to fucking make songs we already know.  Give me a dvd with those songs but hell no do i want those songs again!

I haven't bought a single since RHCP released the By The Way single in 2002. I don't really see them anywhere here in Brussels either. but Ive only been here 6 months, and I haven't really been looking for them. I have definately seen them at home in Norway latelyish. within the last couple of years.

I really think that we are already familiar with most of the "ten extra tracks"...

To me, everything we've heard so far, except maybe for Better, Chinese Democracy,  Madagascar and Catcher, are only teasers.

I really believe Better is going to be the first single, Maddy the second and I think Catcher will be on the second album, IF the 3 album concept is still intact.

I think Oh My God, Blues, Rhiad, Silkworms, TWAT, IRS aren't supposed to be on the album and are the tracks Axl said as extra tracks. So you'll get the album AND have these tracks as extras, bonus, that you've heard in the "Give Me Money To Finish My 123th Vocal Layers Record Sessions Tours 2002 & 2006".

By the way it'll be a good name for a tour.
 :hihi:

Just my two cents.