Here Today... Gone To Hell!

QUOTE(gunsguy @ Jan 13 2007, 08:58 PM) *

I cannot honestly say too much about what I heard, for not responding about the song I have heard (completed) I am sorry...



Gunsguy

He could at the very least mention if it's a song we haven't heard as of yet

WOW..I think it's just all fun and games over there.  You have NO way of telling whether or not this guy is telling the truth.

I agree, you need to take it with a huge grain of salt, but still - he has 5,000+ posts. He certainly hasn't been bullshitting the whole time, so I think he has a tad bit more credibility than most would.

Today, 11:08 PM
Post #28



Patience, in about 2 weeks you will hear the same thing I did...

Gunsguy

He just responded with this:


 :o

That sounds yummy.

He has 5,000+ posts and seems to be well respected over there. He claims that he cannot legally say anything:

Interesting read, if nothing else.


http://www.mygnrforum.com/index.php?showtopic=88537

No offense, but I've seen plenty of people with high post counts "crack" lately and post some nutty stuff regarding GnR...

someone copy and paste, please?  i can't read that board.

Time will tell what I am sure about is this:

I will NOT respomd to questions regarding the song or the album, or how I know anything, I will not do anything at Axl's or the bands expense.

I just thought I would fill you in a little so you know that something is coming within 2 weeks, I am not guessing by any means, I have been told by a person who knows

I can tell you that this is very exiting to me and to all of you, and this time things are for real.

GN'R is ready for you, are you ready for them?



Gunsguy

I like your thoughts


gunsguy

He likes my thoughts! ;D

It's an easy lie.

He can say "It's coming up in two weeks" and then when two weeks comes and we get a big old goose egg, he'll say "Well you know Axl, always putting stuff off."

Stop being a downer.  ;D

I have been advised to give the following information only:

The track in question IS something you have heard before, but it IS NOT the same as what you have heard.

I am going to be working on getting more info out, I cannot state much else, all I can say is the world will hear this at the exact same time....


Gunsguy

Hmm..

The plot thickens.

someone copy and paste, please?? i can't read that board.

Still banned, eh? Lol, some things never change.  :hihi:


As for what Gunsguy said, most of it was purely speculative, and goes right back into the rumor pile like everything else. Alot of it was a play on words that we've seen hundreds of times. I guess we'll know in two weeks.

I'm sure it isn't and won't be the last time, if it does end up false.

"GN'R is ready for you, are you ready for them?"

I don't know about any song that has been heard but . I totally agree with the above statement

I still can't see someone with 5,000+ posts getting bored all of a sudden and spewing bullshit for no reason..

Why would this guy get info all of a sudden?

(You know me, back to reality, sorry)

Weather or not he is telling some truth , It is damn time to hop on board the Gnr train

I've been on the train since the ballroom show last year. But my engine runs on truth, not fiction.


 ;D

What kind of truth? Usually it's "straight from the horse's mouth" that is considered the truth. But straight from Axl's mouth on two occasions last year we heard a variation of, "It's definitely coming out this year." Recently, straight from him we've been told March 6th. But I don't think we can trust even from the horse's mouth. The only truth in the GN'R world now is actually having tangible proof in your hands or in front of your eyes (such as an album or a tour for instance).

maybe heard the audio rip of the harley ad

Whatever the outcome, it's only 2 weeks for crying out loud!

It's always "Two weeks away...."


Sadly, seems like an endlessly long retractable leach at times.

 :hihi:

Sadly, seems like an endlessly long retractable leash at times.

Seriously who cares.

If it happens, then we will be surprised, regardless if gunsguy says so or not.  In fact, this information really serves no purpose, especially since it is tantamount to grinning at one's own hand in poker. Good for him, but it doesn't really mean very much in the future history of this project and our enjoyment of it.

The obvious reply is to ban him.
Hey, efish, you agree?  ;)

Duuuuude.... I ALWAYS agree!  : ok:

i don't believe

Tell you what, him posting this is the same as me having posted that I believe we'll hear "Better" as the single during a Super Bowl ad or something similar. It even fits into his timeframe if you're willing to be less specific. So, will the Harley spot re-emerge? Is that the "new" version of the song he's talking about? Or maybe it's been tweaked again. Either way, I'm not saying he's lying, but just based on what we've been told and using common sense in marketing, any one of us could make a promise like he's making and be right in a reasonable enough fashion as to look like we're in on something, but we're not. It's a guess, an educated guess that has a better chance of being true than not, and I guess over at that forum since he's the first to make such a claim, he gets bragging rights. Once again, yes I believe and have always believed we will hear something the end of this month/beginning of next month, and no I do not believe this guy is any more in on anything than any given member here or anywhere else. He may have received an anonymous PM with the Harley ad mp3 with a subject line of "Super Bowl" for all we know, just to cause a comotion and let someone else feel cool.

I just noticed that on the Harley website the black sheep commercial doesn't have the text anymore:  come back soon to watch black sheep with Better the new GN'r song from the forthcoming album CD. Strange maybe they changed the first single and it will not be Better, just a thought  :peace:

Gunsguy does not know anything that the rest of us doesn't allready know. He hasn't heard anything new or exciting. Hes from canada and does NOT have any contacts with anyone who could give him any unreleased stuff.

No, I disagree. I believe we are now past the whole "same shit different month" period. I wouldn't necessarily believe we are going to hear something within the next two weeks cos that guy said so. I do believe we will likely be hearing the first studio within the next two weeks (give or take) because Axl said the album has a tentative date of March 6. He didn't just pull that date out of the air. Remember Ol Merck recommended Axl announce the release date as being around March 20 (forgive me if that isnt exact). So, the fact Axl said two weeks earlier than that makes me think this album is a WHOLE lot closer to done that not. I think we'll receive some news possibly this week hinting towards something. Then w/in the next two weeks we'll be hearing something a whole lot? " BETTER ".? ? ? ?: ok:

Gunsguy does not know anything that the rest of us doesn't allready know. He hasn't heard anything new or exciting. Hes from canada and does NOT have any contacts with anyone who could give him any unreleased stuff.

There's a thing now called "Phone" and an other called "Internet"? : ok:

I do not believe this, i mean why should I? this has happened for years, and yeah if it would be true, then i'll just be even happier if i'm a little negative now lol, you all guys know i'm not a hater or a negative fan, i'm just NOT as naive as some...

Chinese Democracy starts very "soon".  I can feel it.  :peace:

The guy is full of shit.

its a ploy to lure more members to that dying forum.


If I came on here and claimed to have heard CD but could release no Info......... how many of u would believe me?


Listen, The album is suppose to come out march  6th so the guy is figuring it up that a single will have to come out in the next few weeks, or an announcement or something.

So he is going ALL IN with his reputation to try to pay off big like some sort of know it all if he gets lucky and is right.

If we hear something in a few weeks, He will get the attention he craves, if not, he will claim that Axl must have changed his mind or something.

There are a laundry list of posters that have used that same Schtick a million times.

Raoxsle anybody?

He just responded with this:




 :o

Guys, Gunsguy and his family were behind me at the Toronto show...he's an incredibly nice guy.

The guy is sincere, absolutely no reason to bullshit.

Ok maybe not to lure people over there, but he wants attention.

maybe his GF dumped him, maybe he is lonely and he wants attention.


Everyone wants to be the great predictor of Chinese democracy.

Everyone wants to act like they have Inside Info to try and gain some kind of status within the GNR community as the ONE who broke the story.

So this guy is taking a chance like Raoxsle did and is wagering that the album will come out in march which means a single would have to come out in FEB.

So he is claiming to have heard this and that as a way to try and state half truths to make people believe he has inside knowledge of GNR so people will treat him like some sort of big deal.

Its sad and pathetic!

SO he is banking on the fact that GNR will release it in march, so he throws this next couple of weeks thing gambling that GNR will make an announcement soon.


If they make that announcement, it feeds his half truth and since he would've been right about the couple of week thing, he will appear to be right about hearing the album WHICH IS COMPLETE bullshit.

Guys, Gunsguy and his family were behind me at the Toronto show...he's an incredibly nice guy.

The guy is sincere, absolutely no reason to bullshit.

dude with all due respect, but a murderer can seem to be "an incredibly nice guy" and "sincere"

Please... ::)

Im not gunna' spend a whole Gn'R show with some maniac axe murderer...

Ok maybe not to lure people over there, but he wants attention.

maybe his GF dumped him, maybe he is lonely and he wants attention.


Everyone wants to be the great predictor of Chinese democracy.

With the album planned to be coming out in the next 3-4 months... is this clam really worth paying attention to?  If he can't "legally say anything", then I don't get how it's an interesting read.

Don't take offense to this but that guy could say the same about you. He could say you are being negative and pessimistic because you are lonely and looking for attention. Like I said, take no offense. I'm not saying that you are whatsoever or this is what I personally think, but maybe he does know something. If the guy was a "one post wonder" or an individual with a negative reputation I could see it. But considering he seems well liked + the whole 5,000 post thing... lets wait and see.? : ok:

U have the perfect User name cause like Adler u must be on c rack


Dude, u have been here what? 4 minutes?

I've been around awhile.

1 month. You've been around 1 month.

AxlsMain with all due respect your argument is extremely weak. Sitting in front of a guy for a couple hours would make it impossible to figure out a guys mental status. Even serial Killers are charming individuals.

NOt sayin the guy is a serial killer but seriously, U shouldnt come on a message board that hosts the most skeptical and most fucked over fans in music history and start spewing anything that pertains to Chinese Democracy unless u have evidence and ability to back up said statements.


if u dont, i dont want to hear it and i laugh and think people who believe this bullshit are pathetic.


When are u all gonna learn, when Axl wants us to hear it we will, not before and not after, he isnt gonna let some JOe Schmo in Canada hear the fuckin record.

This is as funny as that Fat kid who met Axl in a bar and Axl took him out to his car and let him hear CD.

People were so fuckin stupid they believed THAT!

I am here simply tryin to save the lot of you from more disappointment.


Crackadler: ?I tried my best to express myself monosyllablically enough for u to follow a long. You can go and get your mom to translate any big words you dont understand in my posts. ?Just tell her the posts are from D and she will be more than happy to come running.


Dont ask how i know that......... :yes: :yes:

College, what was I thinking?? First, you have to be old enough to go. Secondly, your GED won't be getting you to many acceptance letters. Now anyway, back to Chinese Democracy...

I'd like to buy one of these Internets.

The point is I have been contacted, I do not know why other than I have had dealings with several people in the GN'R camp in the past. I will say what they say I can say for now. All of you will know about this very soon, we will all have envolvment with this. I have never made claims that I did not know for sure to promote any website, in fact my forum and site are down and will remain that way for now, just to put you to rest about that, even when I recieved the leaks, everyone cryed BS! When I said the album was NOT coming in 2006, when 98% of you were saying no way, I say what I say because I am told, I do not simply guess based on a unreliable Axl letter. I am trying to clean this up but I am told to wait for it. Maybe this is part of the plan leading up to CD I do not know. For all who believe I appreaciate this, for all who don't I could care less, I am merly providing what I can when I can, if I could I would tell you all everything but I simply cannot at this point. You can all be sure of one thing, the GN'R camp is watching this forum in peticular and are almost ready to start something that is increadible and never been done before in the history of Rock N' Roll. I do not make any promises, I am realying on input from people around me. If this means I put my membership on the line then so be it. I realize Axl and camp have let many down in the past, and some are jaded by this as I am, however this is something different, and you have to stay focused on the eventual outcome. For people twisting my words already, I DID NOT say there would be a single out in 2 weeks, I said you will hear something you have heard before abait different, I also stated that the whole world would hear it at the same time....

I will not be a victim, I will not post again untill I have something concrete to say, this way I don't look bad, and you don't pericute me for saying anything. Just keep in mind that I am trying to give as much details as I can. Maybe I should have avoided the situation, too late....

Are you ready?

Gunsguy

Again, this doesn't make sense.

I'd like to buy one of these Internets.

Another post from GunsGuy:

Ok the person who contaced has him clearly being told not to tell anyone. So why would he tell someone who owns a fans website and posts regularly on myGnR? Assuming someone's job is on the line (confidentiality agreement) why would they tell GunsGuy. GunsGuy himself says he doesn't know why he was contacted. Doesn't make sense. He's been asked to say what he can say for now, but by whom? But then again, he says he received the leaks before everyone else so who knows? But he says that GnR are planning something unprecedented and are watching the MyGnR forum in particular. Again, this doesn't make sense. HTGTH is the biggest GnR fansite, GnR have continually used this site ?as a way of communicating official announcements including Axl's letter and Jarmo has being very loyal. So why would they be watching MyGnR forum in particular all of a sudden? Again, doesn't make sense.

Anyone know of any major world events coming up?

In all fairness to MyGnR, the leaks of IRS, Better, and TWAT happened there first.

Blah. Boring. Predicatable. Pathetic actually.

Easy stuff.  If March 6th is still the target date then its easy to guess that we'll have a single in the next 2, 3 or 4 weeks.

Super Bowl is the day where the HD commercial will debut with Better in it.  Better will be better than the version we have. The Monday after the Super Bowl, Better will hit the airwaves. Pretty easy predictions if you ask me that can be packaged in attention seeking inside info.

If I am not old enough to go to college, how could I be old enough for my GED?? If u are gonna try to cut down somebody, at least make some fuckin sense. : ok:

Seriously read that and then tell me who the fuckin moron is pal! :-*

You probably should have spent that four years that you were bragging about in college, instead of here. A Communications or possibly speech class could have helped.

Who is Peter Coffin?

Brothers with Joe Sneezin

Who is Peter Coffin?

Related?........

www.PeterCoffin.com

For those people who like Guns 'N Roses - I just got an email from "someone" I know in LA (yes, I am entirely aware of how stupid that sounds, but no one ever wants to be "someone") Whether or not you choose to believe (or care), that's up to you. I really don't know myself.

But if it isn't a crock of shit - as are many things that don't come directly from the horse's mouth - the new Guns 'N Roses single is in fact "Better" (which has supposedly not been changed substantially since the leaked demo; Buckethead HAS been removed, though... big deal).

I DO NOT HAVE A COPY OF "BETTER" (NOR HAVE I HEARD THE STUDIO VERSION) SO DON'T EVEN BOTHER.

It will be hitting the radio in 2 weeks and the album is on schedule for March 6th. So if it isn't BS, you heard it from an idiot comedian-ish blogger at PeterCoffin.com.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Coffin

A comedian blogger, I suppose.

I vaguely remember a poster here with that name. Not saying they are the same person, the name sounds familiar though.

Better is the single... well that must make it credible.

It isn't like every single one of us on this fucking forum predicted that like back in September?

 ::)

the latest member to join htgth is petermcoffin...

i know its probably totally unrelated, but it amused me

Agree .. safe to say it's "Better". Personally, T.W.A.T. would be my first preference. ( With Buckethead's solo

I completely agree w/ you and realize T.W.AT. likely won't be a single. I was just basically sending a shout-out for T.W.A.T.  Estranged is also one of my favs and agree it was definitely way underrated. But, I guess that's not always a bad thing as long as we (the fans) know where to find it.   :peace:

Typically those songs are not released as singles period, let alone released as the 1st single. Look at Estranged, a very similar song to T.W.A.T. The album was out three years before a single of Estranged came out.

I think he's just coming here to tell us to stop e-mailing him :hihi:

Better is the single... well that must make it credible.

It isn't like every single one of us on this fucking forum predicted that like back in September?

 ::)

That fact that a bunch of people here said it doesn't give it credibility, but the fact that the HD site stated it was the first single DOES.

...the GN'R camp is watching this forum in peticular and are almost ready to start something that is increadible and never been done before in the history of Rock N' Roll...

...I also stated that the whole world would hear it at the same time....

when he says, it is something we have all heard before but a suprise, could this mean that it is silkworms as a single?!  :rofl:   :nervous:

the latest member to join htgth is petermcoffin...

i know its probably totally unrelated, but it amused me

It'd be nice for some big GNR news soon, my girlfriend dumped me and I am really depressed.

'The track in question IS something you have heard before, but it IS NOT the same as what you have heard.'

Re-vamped appetite track.

Yehahaa....dont think so. : ok:

^Also wehn he said it I posted "So basically you're saying that you heard Better and its going to be the first single, out in 2 weeks."


and he responded.... "I like your thoughts"

Pretty much a giveaway eh?

Anyway, he told me through PM that he's gonna give us details very soon.

Until then....... no real point in speculation.

^Also wehn he said it I posted "So basically you're saying that you heard Better and its going to be the first single, out in 2 weeks."


and he responded.... "I like your thoughts"

Pretty much a giveaway eh?

Anyway, he told me through PM that he's gonna give us details very soon.

Until then....... no real point in speculation.

Heads up - new GunsGuy post.

Reading it now.(http://www.mygnrforum.com/style_emoticons/default/smiley-book.gif)

Anyway, he told me through PM that he's gonna give us details very soon.

First he can't say anything on a public forum. Then he offers up his e-mail so all those 'interested' can ask him directly. Same difference - he says something in an e-mail, eventually it gets posted on the forums, he'll be cited as the source. Somehow I fail to see how it would serve his purposes any better.


Took less than a day for his gag order to loosen up, eh?  : ok:

this could be a new song played live on the grammys ?

this could be a new song played live on the grammys ?

Took less than a day for his gag order to loosen up, eh?  : ok:

I emailed him and asked him to tell me. This is what he told me:

"The world will know all at the same time sorry

gunsguy"

i want to take a shot at the guessing game :)

i think what Gunsguy is talking about is that we will hear the first single (Better) in two weeks and that it's not the same as the demo we all know, it's been somewhat changed and improved (hopefully). They will release this single in an unprecedent way, through internet forums and the likes, and this way, it will reach the whole world so everyone from all around can hear it at the same time, thus starting "something incredible and never been done before in the history of rock & roll"

two weeks before i eat my words lol

mm this could be read as if he's saying we will all hear Sorry at the same time lol, but most likely is not.. i still believe it's Better he's talking about

when is the superbowl? that's like the other major way to reach the whole world besides internet right? that theory could bear some truth as well, we will see..

when is the superbowl? that's like the other major way to reach the whole world besides internet right? that theory could bear some truth as well, we will see..

So then I replied and asked him WHY he gave out his email and he told me that now he has my email, he can tell me (and everyone else who emailed him) the news once he is allowed to talk about it.

mm this could be read as if he's saying we will all hear Sorry at the same time lol, but most likely is not.. i still believe it's Better he's talking about

Yeah, that gives the people on 'the list' about a two minute headstart from everybody else, since its going to be all over the forums soon after. Mind asking him whether people registered for e-mail updates at gunsnroses.com will get the same update from the band?



Dodgy, dodger. What he would've said "There was a time I had the blues but it was all for the better"?

I'd gladly ask him that, but I seriously doubt he would have any idea of that. Besides, they didn't even send out an email update for Axl's letter to the fans about the tentative date and Merck's firing. GNR.com's "email updates" seem to be nonexistant to me.

Not gunsguy related, but something similiar:

http://www.gnr2k.com/board/index.php?topic=1158.0

Interesting....

I'd call BS, but at this point, who knows?  ???

Not gunsguy related, but something similiar:

http://www.gnr2k.com/board/index.php?topic=1158.0

Not gunsguy related, but something similiar:

http://www.gnr2k.com/board/index.php?topic=1158.0

I know I've read somewhere about that ''Leave Me Alone'' track. Was that title mentioned on RS?

Anyway, I smell bullshit. There was a very similar post a few days ago, but with different tracklists.

"Leave Me Alone" was mentioned by Marco Beltrami back in 2002 I do believe.

who's darkenumus?

Jarmo (or other moderators),

Why hasn't this thread been locked and deleted? They locked the gunsguy thread over at MYGNR, perhaps because gunsguy had a confrontation with Madison. But she gave "stop posting rumors" as her reason for locking it.