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Title: Survey: What was each lineup's best performance?
Post by: DunkinDave on December 28, 2006, 08:22:35 PM
What was each lineup's best performance, in your opinion?

Also, what do you think are the best available audio and video recordings of each lineup?

Please refrain from saying "THIS SHOW WAS THE BEST BECAUSE I WAS THERE".

Helpful references for dates and locations:

http://gnrontour.com/ - 1985-2006 setlists
http://www.heretodaygonetohell.com/tour/pastshows.php - 2001-2006 setlists

Use this format -

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1985-1990
Axl, Slash, Duff, Izzy, Adler -

Performance:
Audio Recording:
Video Recording:

1991
Axl, Slash, Duff, Izzy, Sorum, Dizzy -

Performance:
Audio Recording:
Video Recording:

1991-1993
Axl, Slash, Duff, Gilby, Sorum, Dizzy -

Performance:
Audio Recording:
Video Recording:

2001
Axl, Finck, Buckethead, Stinson, Tobias, Brain, Dizzy, Pittman -

Performance:
Audio Recording:
Video Recording:

2002
Axl, Finck, Buckethead, Stinson, Fortus, Brain, Dizzy, Pittman -

Performance:
Audio Recording:
Video Recording:

2006
Axl, Finck, Bumblefoot, Stinson, Fortus, Brain, Dizzy, Pittman -

Performance:
Audio Recording:
Video Recording:

2006-present
Axl, Finck, Bumblefoot, Stinson, Fortus, Frank, Dizzy, Pittman -

Performance:
Audio Recording:
Video Recording:


Title: Re: Survey: What was each lineup's best performance?
Post by: Back Off Bitch on December 28, 2006, 08:43:31 PM
1985-1990
Axl, Slash, Duff, Izzy, Adler -

Performance: Marquee 06-22-87
Audio Recording: yes
Video Recording: no

1991
Axl, Slash, Duff, Izzy, Sorum, Dizzy -

Performance: Rio 1-20-91
Audio Recording: Yes
Video Recording: yes

1991-1993
Axl, Slash, Duff, Gilby, Sorum, Dizzy -

Performance: Argentina 7-17-93
Audio Recording: Yes
Video Recording: yes

2001
Axl, Finck, Buckethead, Stinson, Tobias, Brain, Dizzy, Pittman -

Performance: Las Vegas
Audio Recording: Yes
Video Recording: No  (supposedly being hoarded)

2002
Axl, Finck, Buckethead, Stinson, Fortus, Brain, Dizzy, Pittman -

Performance: MSG 12-5-02
Audio Recording: Yes
Video Recording: Yes
I'm not a fan of this year...

2006
Axl, Finck, Bumblefoot, Stinson, Fortus, Brain, Dizzy, Pittman -

Performance: Hammerstein 5-12-06
Audio Recording: Yes
Video Recording: Yes

2006-present
Axl, Finck, Bumblefoot, Stinson, Fortus, Frank, Dizzy, Pittman -

Performance: LA 12-20-06
Audio Recording: Yes (Off of dvd i think)
Video Recording: Yes


Title: Re: Survey: What was each lineup's best performance?
Post by: polluxlm on December 28, 2006, 08:45:20 PM
It's sad and funny at the same time, 7 lineups...

The Ritz

Indiana

Chicago

House Of Blues

Boston

Rock Am Ring


Title: Re: Survey: What was each lineup's best performance?
Post by: DunkinDave on December 28, 2006, 08:46:36 PM
Just to clarify, when I have Audio Bootleg and Video Bootleg listed, I'm asking what shows in your opinion have the best audio and video bootlegs.

They can be different from the show you list as "Best Performance".

Like from the 2006 lineup with Brain, I think Rock AM Ring has the best audio and video bootleg, but it isn't necessarily the best performance.


Title: Re: Survey: What was each lineup's best performance?
Post by: polluxlm on December 28, 2006, 08:50:57 PM
Just to clarify, when I have Audio Bootleg and Video Bootleg listed, I'm asking what shows have the best audio and video bootlegs.

They can be different from the show you list as "Best Performance".

The ones I've listed are the best for audio. Except HOB they're all soundboards. I'm not so crazy about video, but most of them have good video too, with the exception of HOB.



Title: Re: Survey: What was each lineup's best performance?
Post by: mlewis on December 28, 2006, 08:52:52 PM
1985-1990
Axl, Slash, Duff, Izzy, Adler -

Performance: Marquee 06-22-87
Audio Recording: yes
Video Recording: no

1991
Axl, Slash, Duff, Izzy, Sorum, Dizzy -

Performance: Rio 1-20-91
Audio Recording: Yes
Video Recording: yes

1991-1993
Axl, Slash, Duff, Gilby, Sorum, Dizzy -

Performance: Argentina 7-17-93
Audio Recording: Yes
Video Recording: yes

2001
Axl, Finck, Buckethead, Stinson, Tobias, Brain, Dizzy, Pittman -

Performance: Las Vegas
Audio Recording: Yes
Video Recording: No  (supposedly being hoarded)

2002
Axl, Finck, Buckethead, Stinson, Fortus, Brain, Dizzy, Pittman -

Performance: MSG 12-5-02
Audio Recording: Yes
Video Recording: Yes
I'm not a fan of this year...

2006
Axl, Finck, Bumblefoot, Stinson, Fortus, Brain, Dizzy, Pittman -

Performance: Hammerstein 5-12-06
Audio Recording: Yes
Video Recording: Yes

2006-present
Axl, Finck, Bumblefoot, Stinson, Fortus, Frank, Dizzy, Pittman -

Performance: LA 12-20-06
Audio Recording: Yes (Off of dvd i think)
Video Recording: Yes

Agree with all that except...

Axl, Finck, Bumblefoot, Stinson, Fortus, Brain, Dizzy, Pittman -

Performance: London Hammersmith 7-6-06
Audio Recording: Yes
Video Recording: Yes

Was reckoned by many, including Merck, to have the best crowd of the tour,

and as far as I know Oakland 06 has the best bootleg of the US tour, quality wise.


Title: Re: Survey: What was each lineup's best performance?
Post by: Robman? on December 28, 2006, 09:05:21 PM
Talk about a complicated way to say what your favorite performances are.  :hihi:

I'm going with the same as polluxlm, but I can't decide between MSG or Boston 2002


Title: Re: Survey: What was each lineup's best performance?
Post by: thesloth on December 28, 2006, 10:28:58 PM
I would say the Winnipeg show.
Dec 4th 2006

Special Guest: Bubbles:

First show where all the preformers were very well received.  THe crowd was their to party and have a good time.  The crowd never got into booing any of the bands and was absolutly amazing for GnR.  That and the addition of Bubbles made it one of the "special shows"  Also Axl talked a lot durning this show.  Talking about how the drug dogs at customs went crazy around the band manager because he was standing beside Bach.  Getting the crowd to sing really load so Helmut's bassist could hear us back in Newyork,  Then the rendition with Bubbles (from trailer park boys) was fantastic.  He made Bubbles go up to the "Ego ramp"  Also made Bubbles stay on for the next song "Used to love her" as well. 
Also one of the few shows where Fink crowd surfed.


Title: Re: Survey: What was each lineup's best performance?
Post by: The Legend on December 29, 2006, 01:58:47 AM
1985-1990
Axl, Slash, Duff, Izzy, Adler -

Performance: 02.02.88 - The Ritz, New York, NY
Audio Recording: yes
Video Recording: yes

1991
Axl, Slash, Duff, Izzy, Sorum, Dizzy -

Performance: 08.03.91 - Great Western Forum, Inglewood, CA
Audio Recording: yes
Video Recording: no

1991-1993
Axl, Slash, Duff, Gilby, Sorum, Dizzy -

Performance: 04.09.92 - Rosemont Horizon, Rosemont, IL
Audio Recording: yes
Video Recording: yes

2001
Axl, Finck, Buckethead, Stinson, Tobias, Brain, Dizzy, Pittman -

Performance: 01.15.01 - Rock City, Barra da Tijuca, Rio de Janeiro, Brazil
Audio Recording: yes
Video Recording: yes

2002
Axl, Finck, Buckethead, Stinson, Fortus, Brain, Dizzy, Pittman -

Performance: 12.02.02 - FleetCenter, Boston, MA
Audio Recording: yes
Video Recording: yes

2006
Axl, Finck, Bumblefoot, Stinson, Fortus, Brain, Dizzy, Pittman -

Performance: 05.12.06 - Hammerstein Ballroom, New York, NY
Audio Recording: yes
Video Recording: yes

2006-present
Axl, Finck, Bumblefoot, Stinson, Fortus, Frank, Dizzy, Pittman -

Performance: 12.20.06 - Gibson Amphitheatre at Universal CityWalk, Universal City, CA
Audio Recording: yes
Video Recording: yes


Title: Re: Survey: What was each lineup's best performance?
Post by: Jim Bob on December 29, 2006, 03:48:25 AM
I'm only going to go by the shows I saw personally.

2002 - Pittsburgh
2006 - 12/20 Universal City


Title: Re: Survey: What was each lineup's best performance?
Post by: Spiochu on December 29, 2006, 03:55:47 AM
1985-1990
Axl, Slash, Duff, Izzy, Adler -

Performance: The Ritz 1988
Audio Recording: yes
Video Recording: yes

1991
Axl, Slash, Duff, Izzy, Sorum, Dizzy -

Performance: Ingelwood, 4th night
Audio Recording: yes
Video Recording: no

1991-1993
Axl, Slash, Duff, Gilby, Sorum, Dizzy -

Performance: Paris 92 and Argentina 93 - the last show
Audio Recording: yes
Video Recording: yes

2001
Axl, Finck, Buckethead, Stinson, Tobias, Brain, Dizzy, Pittman -

Performance: the one and only.... Rock in Rio of course
Audio Recording: yep
Video Recording: yes

2002
Axl, Finck, Buckethead, Stinson, Fortus, Brain, Dizzy, Pittman -

Performance: Boston
Audio Recording: yes
Video Recording: yes

2006
Axl, Finck, Bumblefoot, Stinson, Fortus, Brain, Dizzy, Pittman -

Performance: Madrit.... or Download... or Hammerstein - 1sth night
Audio Recording: yes
Video Recording: yes

2006-present
Axl, Finck, Bumblefoot, Stinson, Fortus, Frank, Dizzy, Pittman -

Performance: Wembley 1sth night and London Acoustic :)
Audio Recording: yes/no
Video Recording: yes/no


Title: Re: Survey: What was each lineup's best performance?
Post by: The Legend on December 29, 2006, 05:29:21 AM
1985-1990
Axl, Slash, Duff, Izzy, Adler -

Performance: The Ritz 1988
Audio Recording: yes
Video Recording: yes

1991
Axl, Slash, Duff, Izzy, Sorum, Dizzy -

Performance: Ingelwood, 4th night
Audio Recording: yes
Video Recording: no

1991-1993
Axl, Slash, Duff, Gilby, Sorum, Dizzy -

Performance: Paris 92 and Argentina 93 - the last show
Audio Recording: yes
Video Recording: yes

2001
Axl, Finck, Buckethead, Stinson, Tobias, Brain, Dizzy, Pittman -

Performance: the one and only.... Rock in Rio of course
Audio Recording: yep
Video Recording: yes

2002
Axl, Finck, Buckethead, Stinson, Fortus, Brain, Dizzy, Pittman -

Performance: Boston
Audio Recording: yes
Video Recording: yes

2006
Axl, Finck, Bumblefoot, Stinson, Fortus, Brain, Dizzy, Pittman -

Performance: Madrit.... or Download... or Hammerstein - 1sth night
Audio Recording: yes
Video Recording: yes

2006-present
Axl, Finck, Bumblefoot, Stinson, Fortus, Frank, Dizzy, Pittman -

Performance: Wembley 1sth night and London Acoustic :)
Audio Recording: yes/no
Video Recording: yes/no

Was Frank with them at the Wembley show? I thought Brain was still with the band then.


Title: Re: Survey: What was each lineup's best performance?
Post by: Orgasmatron on December 29, 2006, 06:04:02 AM
I'm pretty sure he was ;)


Title: Re: Survey: What was each lineup's best performance?
Post by: Jim Bob on December 29, 2006, 06:27:29 AM
Yes, Frank was with the band at Wembley.  He was with the band from near the end of June thru the rest of the European tour.  and then Brain played the 5 shows on the west coast in September, and then Frank did the 1st leg of the US tour.


Title: Re: Survey: What was each lineup's best performance?
Post by: The Legend on December 29, 2006, 06:33:08 AM
Yes, Frank was with the band at Wembley.? He was with the band from near the end of June thru the rest of the European tour.? and then Brain played the 5 shows on the west coast in September, and then Frank did the 1st leg of the US tour.

Thanks, i'm gonna correct my list.


Title: Re: Survey: What was each lineup's best performance?
Post by: estebanf on December 29, 2006, 08:08:50 PM
Very cool thread!


1985-1990
Axl, Slash, Duff, Izzy, Adler -

Performance: Nakano Sunplaza - Tokyo, Japan Dec 1988
Audio Recording: Yes (A+ almost complete soundboard recording)
Video Recording: Yes

1991
Axl, Slash, Duff, Izzy, Sorum, Dizzy -

Performance: Wembley Stadium 8/31/91
Audio Recording: Yes (GN'R Rock Wembley B+/A)
Video Recording: Yes (sucks, there's a pro shot of LALD for the VMA's 1991)

1991-1993
Axl, Slash, Duff, Gilby, Sorum, Dizzy -

Performance: Metrodome - Minneapolis, MN 1992
Audio Recording: Yes (audience, a nice one)
Video Recording: No (at least, not surfaced yet)

2001
Axl, Finck, Buckethead, Stinson, Tobias, Brain, Dizzy, Pittman -

Performance: Rock In Rio III Festival
Audio Recording: Yes (Brazilian Democracy, Rock In Rio III, etc Soundboard A+)
Video Recording: Yes (Proshot)

2002
Axl, Finck, Buckethead, Stinson, Fortus, Brain, Dizzy, Pittman -

Performance: London Docklands Arena, Aug 2002
Audio Recording: Yes (audience, B+)
Video Recording: Yes (audience, watchable...)

2006
Axl, Finck, Bumblefoot, Stinson, Fortus, Brain, Dizzy, Pittman -

Performance: Download Festival 2006
Audio Recording: Yes (Axl's Micpad / incomplete dat master)
Video Recording: Yes (Pro shots of Nightrain, PC and My Michelle, and a full audience shot)

2006-present
Axl, Finck, Bumblefoot, Stinson, Fortus, Frank, Dizzy, Pittman -

Performance: Madison Square Garden 2006
Audio Recording: Yes (Whatisitman source, DVD audio Rip)
Video Recording: Yes (audience)


Title: Re: Survey: What was each lineup's best performance?
Post by: estebanf on December 29, 2006, 08:22:36 PM
Just to clarify, when I have Audio Bootleg and Video Bootleg listed, I'm asking what shows in your opinion have the best audio and video bootlegs.

They can be different from the show you list as "Best Performance".

Like from the 2006 lineup with Brain, I think Rock AM Ring has the best audio and video bootleg, but it isn't necessarily the best performance.

Sorry, I missed this, here's my list again:



1985-1990
Axl, Slash, Duff, Izzy, Adler -

Performance: Nakano Sunplaza - Tokyo, Japan Dec 1988
Audio Recording: ''Self Destruct Era'' Nakano Sunplaza - Tokyo, Japan Dec 1988*
Video Recording: CBGB's 1987 / Farm Aid IV
* All tracks SBD A+ except from a piece of Nightrain and PC (if I remember well)

1991
Axl, Slash, Duff, Izzy, Sorum, Dizzy -

Performance: Wembley Stadium - London, England 8.31.91
Audio Recording: ''The Riot Act'' St Louis 91 / ''Vanishing Point'' Worcester 1991
Video Recording: St Louis 91 (Bondage) Pro-Shot

1991-1993
Axl, Slash, Duff, Gilby, Sorum, Dizzy -

Performance: Metrodome - Minneapolis, MN 1992
Audio Recording: Estadio River Plate - Buenos Aires, Argentina 5.12.92
Video Recording: Oklahoma 92 (JohnM proshot)

2001
Axl, Finck, Buckethead, Stinson, Tobias, Brain, Dizzy, Pittman -

Performance: Rock In Rio III Festival
Audio Recording: ''Brazilian Democracy'' / ''Rock In Rio III'' Rock In Rio III Festival (soundboard A+)
Video Recording: Rock In Rio III (all DVDs are basically all the same)

2002
Axl, Finck, Buckethead, Stinson, Fortus, Brain, Dizzy, Pittman -

Performance: London Docklands Arena Aug2002
Audio Recording: Pittsburgh @ Mellon Arena SBD A+ (Tacoma, Columbus & Boston are A+ SBD's also)*
Video Recording: Boston 2002 3cammix (JohnM) DVD
* The FLAC files surfaced late. There were several mp3 sourced bootlegs from this show like ''The Pitts''

2006
Axl, Finck, Bumblefoot, Stinson, Fortus, Brain, Dizzy, Pittman -

Performance: Download Festival 2006
Audio Recording: Rock Am Ring Festival 2006 SBD (mp3 only)
Video Recording: Rock Am Ring Festival 2006 Pro-shot (several versions, I have gunnershome's, rocks!)

2006-present
Axl, Finck, Bumblefoot, Stinson, Fortus, Frank, Dizzy, Pittman -

Performance: MSG 2006
Audio Recording: Toronto @ Air Canada Centre (Available in lossless format)
Video Recording: There's a DVD of 12.20.06 @ Gibson Amphitheatre that I dont know if it is already circulating. I've downloaded a sample and it is KILLER. More info here:
http://www.gnrotgm.com/forum/index.php?topic=3647.msg56800#msg56800