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Title: VH1 Classic top 20 metal bands
Post by: faldor on December 27, 2006, 04:46:36 PM
I watched this show earlier today.  I think it's new.  I had never seen it before.  I know they come up with these lists all the time, but this one was interesting.  Guns N' Roses did not make the list, which wouldn't be a huge deal normally cuz they're really not metal.  But bands like Skid Row, Motley Crue, Def Leppard, WASP, Twisted Sister, Quiet Riot, and Poison were all on the list.  How are those bands A) more metal than GNR?, B) possibly be ranked higher on any list than GNR?.  I watched the whole show waiting to see first IF GNR would be on it, once I saw the bands mentioned above on the list the only question was, where they would be ranked?  But they didn't even make the list.  Very puzzling.  What's the criteria?  I'd like someone from VH1 Classic to try and explain this to me.

Metallica was #1 by the way, followed by AC/DC, Iron Maiden, Black Sabbath.


Title: Re: VH1 Classic top 20 metal bands
Post by: CheapJon on December 27, 2006, 04:49:32 PM
http://www.heretodaygonetohell.com/board/index.php?topic=41752.new#new  : ok:


Title: Re: VH1 Classic top 20 metal bands
Post by: faldor on December 27, 2006, 04:56:27 PM
Sorry about that.  I did a search for the topic too and didn't come up with anything.  Whoops!


Title: Re: VH1 Classic top 20 metal bands
Post by: BumbleFinck on December 27, 2006, 07:33:49 PM
Poison, motley crue and skid row are considered hair metal. Twisted Sister is an early80's metal band as is quiet riot. Def leppard is from the NWOBHM and so on. Guns N' Roses are a rock band. Simple as that. Not being on this list just means someone finally got it right. They are pretty high up on the hard rock artists countdown, I forget what number but I think it's top 5, so yeah, I'm guesign bands liek Aerosmith and Alice Cooper weren't on th elist either?


Title: Re: VH1 Classic top 20 metal bands
Post by: faldor on December 27, 2006, 08:20:19 PM
Poison, motley crue and skid row are considered hair metal. Twisted Sister is an early80's metal band as is quiet riot. Def leppard is from the NWOBHM and so on. Guns N' Roses are a rock band. Simple as that. Not being on this list just means someone finally got it right. They are pretty high up on the hard rock artists countdown, I forget what number but I think it's top 5, so yeah, I'm guesign bands liek Aerosmith and Alice Cooper weren't on th elist either?
Yeah i guess you're right.  I remember watching a documentary on VH1 Classic, "Metal: A Headbanger's Journey" or something like that.  It listed all the different factions of Metal with some of the bands that fit under that faction (eg. hair metal or glam metal, Poison, Motley Crue) and GNR wasn't on any of those lists.  So I guess maybe they did get it right after all.


Title: Re: VH1 Classic top 20 metal bands
Post by: The Legend on December 27, 2006, 11:29:02 PM
Guns N' Roses shouldn't rank high on this list. They were never a metal band. They were a hard rock band who had metal songs... like Jungle, Right Next Door To Hell, Perfect Crime & Coma.


Title: Re: VH1 Classic top 20 metal bands
Post by: freedom78 on December 27, 2006, 11:43:48 PM
I remember watching a documentary on VH1 Classic, "Metal: A Headbanger's Journey" or something like that.  It listed all the different factions of Metal with some of the bands that fit under that faction (eg. hair metal or glam metal, Poison, Motley Crue) and GNR wasn't on any of those lists.  So I guess maybe they did get it right after all.

Yeah...but "hair metal" isn't metal, either.  It's rock, sometimes hard, sometimes pop, and defined more by the look than the sound.  Nothin' metal about Poison ::)



Title: Re: VH1 Classic top 20 metal bands
Post by: bigbri on December 27, 2006, 11:49:52 PM
I didn't see VH1's show, but I'll bet most of them weren't metal. Slayer is metal. Megadeth is metal. Maiden is metal. Def Leppard, not so much.


Title: Re: VH1 Classic top 20 metal bands
Post by: GNRfan2008 on December 28, 2006, 12:08:14 AM
I didn't see VH1's show, but I'll bet most of them weren't metal. Slayer is metal. Megadeth is metal. Maiden is metal. Def Leppard, not so much.

Def Leppard is closer to pop than they are to hard rock in my opinion. Why they are considered metal is beyond me. AC/DC, GN'R, and Led Zeppelin all rock harder than Def Leppard, and yet you hardly ever hear them referred to as "metal" bands.


Title: Re: VH1 Classic top 20 metal bands
Post by: Lord Kayoss on December 28, 2006, 02:02:57 AM
Def Leppard rocked hard all the way up until 1987 when Hysteria came out.  On Through The Night, High N' Dry, and Pyromania were all hard rock albums.  Maybe not quite metal, but definitely aggressive, Zeppelin-inspired heavy rock.

The "hair band" crap label didn't develop until dozens of other bands materialized trying to be like them.  Def Leppard should never have been considered "hair metal".  They never wore make up or went through 10 cans of hair spray a week or dressed in drag.  It's a shame they are often confused with the sunset strip, prissy-ass incarnations of rock like Poison and all the rest.  They deserve more respect.


Title: Re: VH1 Classic top 20 metal bands
Post by: GNRfan2008 on December 28, 2006, 05:00:12 AM
Def Leppard rocked hard all the way up until 1987 when Hysteria came out.  On Through The Night, High N' Dry, and Pyromania were all hard rock albums.  Maybe not quite metal, but definitely aggressive, Zeppelin-inspired heavy rock.

The "hair band" crap label didn't develop until dozens of other bands materialized trying to be like them.  Def Leppard should never have been considered "hair metal".  They never wore make up or went through 10 cans of hair spray a week or dressed in drag.  It's a shame they are often confused with the sunset strip, prissy-ass incarnations of rock like Poison and all the rest.  They deserve more respect.

They were sell-outs by most standards though. When you basically sell your soul to MTV like they did in the early 1980s in order to become popular, you basically set yourself up for criticism. Most of the Def Leppard stuff I have heard is catchy, but utter crap compared to Led Zeppelin despite them trying to imitate said band.