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I know we've had enough of these discussions, but I thought this was a cool video!

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xuhm6_gnr-guitarist-comparison

In my opinion:

SCOM: Finck just copies Slash. Slash always wins coz he wrote it and there's something special about his stage prescense when playing the SCOM solo.

Brownstone: What the hell is Finck doing? Stay away from this one, please. He's trying to hard to put his own spin on it methinks. Slash again.

Nightrain: Izzy & Slash. Didn't like Fortus's version on either. Buckethead just copied Slash's solo except for the ending which sounded outta place. Thal sounded completely outta place. Izzy & Slash's fits perfectly with the sleazy, lyrical nature of the song. Prefer Bucket to Thal coz he's more faithful to the original.

November Rain: Damn, Slash is perfect. The most beautiful piece of guitar-playing! Fortus just lack that, I dunno how to describe, top-of-the-world tone, just not the same emotion or that thing that's hard to describe. Finck needs to **** off from this one.

Chinese Democracy: Finck & Thal. Finck is much better on his own stuff. Thal was slightly better than Buckethead but not much difference.

KOHD: Slash. Here's where Buckethead shows he's much better Thal. What was Thal thinking, shredding on KOHD!! Great emotional playing from Bucket in a version much closer to Bob's original. But I still can't look past Slash's solo. It's a classic.

November Rain outro: Thal. Nothing will ever beat the original studio version, but Slash never played it the same live.Thal actually plays it closer to the original than Slash. The added shred elements work kinda cool too.

Nightrain Outro: Slash. This is the best to compare coz it's three completely different solos. I don't like Buckethead's - it doesn't go anywhere. Thal's is better, his jam style suits the outro, but Slash wins coz he keeps the sense of structure. Having said that, watching a video of the new band playing the Nightrain outro is amazing.

Surprised the Paradise City outro wasn't here. I like Buckethead and Thal's version!

That vid sucks... I like how they compare Slash' studio SCOM with a random Finck live SCOM...

This isn't a fair comparison...

Slash's SCOM was live. I agree Finck's SCOM was poor quality.

Here are my opinions on a few of the songs:

Nightrain - Buckethead owns the solo. I think his version is by the best.

November Rain -  To me, solo 1 sounds fairly similar between Slash and Fortus (Without watching the side to side comparison video), but I like the feeling Fortus plays with live. For solo 2, I think Slash is better than Finck. Solo 3, Bumblefoot is awesome.

So, why didn't you jut say, "Slash pwns all deez sngs!" Because all you basically said was that Slash does every song good.

I think you need to get your ears checked on Brownstone, Finck owns that solo. I'm not compaing him to Slash (even though I prefer Finck) I just think Robin does a great job on that solo.  :yes:

im not being funny...but i think the shreddin is done by fortus...might be wrong mind u, but when u watch the video, it looks like fortus is the shred king behind this masterpiece

Hmmm... The new band as a whole sounds worse on most of these songs. Are all the Slash versions from live era or something? I mean, could just be that all the new band's songs are chosen somewhat randomly while the old band gets represented with A quality boots?

Buckethead owns on Nightrain though, and I Prefer Fortus to Izzy, when it comes to solos.
Finck hasn't done a single thing right in any of those solo's on there, which is representative of his improv skills. I'm guessing he'll be much better on CD, where he had the time to think about what he was going to do on the song. I'm still undecided on Thal.

To be honest, anything with bumblefoot i think sounds a bit off...his motto is "if i play it fast, it doesnt matter what note i hit" and i dont like that...i kinda wish someone would pull him over and say "ya know mate, can ya slow it down just a little bit?" As a person he's a lovely guy

to me, buckethead was a genius, i loved him as a guitarist and a gnr member. He was quick, clean, and hit the right notes but he has gone and im not gonna cry over it

Slash...legend...but is now in another band...not really bothered...velvet revolver are great and wouldnt want it any other way.

All im gonna say is that i hope buckethead is on the album, so he see that axl has changed and decides to come back. Im not starting a whole slash vs buckethead vs bumblefoot...all im saying is i preferred bucketheads style to the others

i like Robin but the problem i have with him is that he doesn't really improvise that much. i wish he would some more....

This gives a huge unfair advantage to Slash.

Based on those samples:

SCOM: Slash & Finck tie.

Mr. B: Finck. Slash is good also, but I like Finck's spin on it better.

Nightrain: Izzy & Slash. I think they take this one pretty easily.

NR: Fortus & Finck. Both are pretty awesome, but I give a slight edge to Fortus & Finck.

CD: Finck & Bucket. Better energy at this part.

KOHD: No one. See that's the problem with this comparison. The song has been retooled both in 2002 & 2006 in comparison to the 1991-93 version. The 2006 one actually has lyrics, that used to not be there. No one gets a vote here, although of the 'sounds' I heard, I liked Bucket's the best.

NR-outro: Slash. I prefer the original, although Thal plays the hell out of it too.

Nightrain-outro: Thal. Bucket's is up there also. Slash's, okay.

Dude, in the future. Don't compare studio tweaked Live Era album performances to bootleg recordings. It gives a huge advantage to Slash.

this is a real cool viceo where BH, slash and BBF is compared to each other, all should check it out

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XVV0qlukPVw

first it's slash doing the YCBM solo then BH then BBF... IMO slash wins this one

then it's slash doing the Nov.Rain last solo then BH then BBF.. here BBF wins

last it's slash doing nightrain then BH then BBF.. and in this one BH wins

 : ok:

I've seen this one before, and that's exactly how I call it. Slash, BBF, then Bucket.

I second that, when Bucket plays he sounds too mechanical, and like he's just shredding without really putting a beginning, middle and end to the solo, it all sounds continuous and like its going no where and could last forever. I really like BBF's take on the solos though, he definately gives them some style of his own which i think is important. And of course Slash is great, being that the solo's were his creative idea and playing in the begining he has the upper hand. Playing wise I perfer him to both of the two players and then would come BBF and then Buckethead as bigbri said above.

I cprefer BBF to Slash, and Slash to BH  :yes:

BBF, Bucket, Slash

Robin owns every solo he plays.   He makes them better than the original, not an easy task at all.  :smoking:   His November Rain solo is one of the highlights of the whole show, IMO.

Let me restate that. I didn't mean Slash over BBF over Bucket, no way.

I see it as:
Song 1: Slash's solo is best
Song 2: Bumble's solo is best
Song 3: Bucket's solo is best, and this solo is the best of all 9 solos in the video, by far.

Who cares how anyone plays them. Slash & Izzy created the pieces, not BBF, Finck, Bucket or Fortus. They are just improvising Slash's solos.

Improvising or improving?  :hihi:

Axl had a big hand in how that music was wrote instrumentally too. Don't forget that.

whats your proof?

He and Izzy's name are on almost all of the instrumental-music credits along with Slash, and Axl & Izzy get most of the lyric credits, with some Duff songs here and there in GNR's catalog.

The research is scattered all over the internet. Just look it up.

Thats strange I've never seen that before, even if he was given credit to the music you still have no clue to ho much he brought to the table and the likely hood that he had a big hand in how the music is still extremely slim.

Dude, everyone says Axl was this power hungry neo-nazi style artist, and if that was true he certainly would have dictated how the band played on songs like November Rain, Estranged etc.

So, if you look at it from that point of view, it might be thanks to Axl that we have such beautiful, bluesy, emotional solos..

You wouldn't think he'd let them write any old thing, would ya?

I am not even here to change the subject of this thread, but when I see somethings sometimes, I just have to state my feelings so....people tend to think Axl was the so called "neo-nazi" I look at this like this:  I think that because the rest of the band became more and more dependent on their lifestyle of decadence, I believe Axl felt someone needed to be in control.  Anyone agree?

Secondly, I think that for me it's hard to choose who I think is the better guitarist, because all involved have such incredible talent and their own unique individual style of playing.  From that being said, it sort of depends what kind of playing is music to each individuals ears, I think that because the original band made these songs together, it would probably be fair to say that the older generation of fans would be more drawn to that, where as the younger generations are definately more open to the newer guitarist style of playing.

He recieves 40,2% of the royalties from AFD, so go figure.

*Written By: assumes both music & lyrics, because lack of info

APPETITE FOR DESTRUCTION

Welcome To The Jungle - Music: Slash & Axl / Lyrics: Axl
It's So Easy - Music: Duff & West Arkeen / Lyrics: Duff & West Arkeen
Nightrain - Music: Izzy, Duff, Axl, Slash & Steven / Lyrics: Duff & Axl
Out Ta Get Me - Music: Slash, Axl & Izzy / Lyrics: Axl & Izzy
Mr. Brownstone - Music: Izzy, Slash & Steven / Lyrics: Izzy
Paradise City - Music: Duff, Slash, Axl & Izzy / Lyrics: Axl & Duff
My Michelle - Music: Axl & Izzy / Lyrics: Axl
Sweet Child O' Mine - Music: Axl, Slash, Izzy & Steven / Lyrics: Axl
You're Crazy - Music: Slash, Izzy, & Axl / Lyrics: Axl & Izzy
Anything Goes - Music: Izzy, Axl & Chris Weber / Lyrics: Izzy & Axl
Rocket Queen - Music: Axl, Slash, Izzy & Steven / Lyrics: Axl & Izzy

GN'R LIES

Reckless Life - Written By: Steven Tyler & Joe Perry
Nice Boys - Written By: Rose Tattoo
Move To The City - Written By: Guns N' Roses & Chris Weber (?)
Mama Kin - Written By: Joe Perry & Steven Tyler
Patience - Music: Izzy / Lyrics: Izzy
Used To Love Her - Music: Izzy / Lyrics: Izzy
You're Crazy - Music: Slash, Izzy, & Axl / Lyrics: Axl & Izzy
One In A Million - Music: Axl / Lyrics: Axl

USE YOUR ILLUSION I

Right Next Door To Hell - Written By: Axl, Izzy & Timo Caltia
Dust N' Bones - Written By: Izzy, Duff & Slash
Live and Let Die - Written By: Paul McCartney & Linda McCartney
Don't Cry [original] - Written By: Axl & Izzy
Perfect Crime - Written By: Izzy, Slash & Axl
You Ain't The First - Written By: Izzy
Bad Obsession - Written By: Izzy & West Arkeen
Back Off Bitch - Written By: Axl & Paul "Huge" Tobias
Double Talkin' Jive - Written By: Izzy
November Rain - Music: Axl / Lyrics: Axl
The Garden - Written By: Axl, Del James & West Arkeen
Garden of Eden - Written By: Axl & Slash
Don't Damn Me - Written By: Slash, Steve Lank & Axl
Bad Apples - Written By: Slash, Duff, Izzy & Axl
Dead Horse - Music: Axl / Lyrics: Axl
Coma - Music: Slash & Axl / Lyrics: Axl

USE YOUR ILLUSION II

Civil War - Written By: Axl, Slash & Duff
14 Years - Written By: Axl & Izzy
Yesterdays - Written By: West Arkeen, Del James, Billy (?), & Axl
Knockin' On Heaven's Door - Written By: Bob Dylan
Get In The Ring - Written By: Duff, Axl & Slash
Shotgun Blues - Music: Axl / Lyrics: Axl
Breakdown - Written By: Axl
Pretty Tied Up - Music: Izzy / Lyrics: Izzy
Locomotive - Written By: Slash & Axl
So Fine - Music: Duff / Lyrics: Duff
Estranged - Music: Axl / Lyrics: Axl
Don't Cry [alternate] - Written By: Axl & Izzy
My World - Music: Axl / Lyrics: Axl