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As a signal to the fans, media and general worldwide consumer base it would be a smart move for GNR to play Chinese Democracy in its entirety on the last night of the U.S. tour.  This way we would all gain the confidence that they have, in fact, written and rehearsed an entire album of material.  Bootlegs of the show would swarm the Internet (much like the leaks did about a year ago), allowing for the new sounds to sink in.  The quality of the bootlegs would, of course, be different than studio versions, so quite a bit of value would exist in the studio album.  In addition, having a live version of CD spread all over the place could actually help reduce the expected impact of the album leaking before it hits stores.  The wide availability of the bootleg songs would reach many downloaders before the leaked studio versions (or at least confuse them).

Just a thought on a way of giving back to the hardcore fans, generating buzz and protecting the value of the studio recordings.

Never going to happen.

doesn't make sense to me. why would they play all the new songs since then the anticipation for hearing the whole album would be MUCH less.

What he said.

And I didnt read the thread, but I know what youre saying fromt he title and first sentence, and sorry but that'd be an aweful idea.

Would be great if it happened but as stated above it would somewhat lessen the hype. Also I'm sure some songs off the album won't sound well live because they haven't practiced them.

I'm glad you're not in charge...that's not a very good idea, I'm sorry. ?Don't worry though, we are in for a fun ride with the album coming (fingers crossed) in 68 days. ? 8)

It would be an awesome idea if we could get all of the regular posters on all of the GNR boards to come to one place to hear it.  For the casual GNR fan it would really suck, because no one would know what they were hearing!

;D

yeah, and he could start throwing 100 dollar bills in the audience!
that would be a great idea!
just imagine it!
woho...
and he could bend over as well!
now that would be a thread...



not gonna happen. use some common sense next time you hit "new thread"

That's not entirely true. 95% of the projected record buyers would never bother to download live bootlegs. Doing such a stunt would do little to none damage in terms of record sales.

If anything it would create the extra hype and attention to sell more copies.

mmhmm thats right  : ok:

Can't say I like THAT idea....     Not that it would happen anyway.  Imagine if you paid to go and hear a bunch of the hits and had all the new tracks forced down your throat?

are you out of your fucking mind?? what planet are you on?

I'm hoping for one hell of a show, some new surprises maybe?

Game theory...not bad actually.

noppppe not happening.

great theory but noooo.

i could see them playing Prostitute or If The World, then announcing it as their first single to be released to radio stations later in the week


 ;D :drool:

And throwing $500 bottles of Vodka, and his rings, and...yeah, this will never happen.

"hey guys, wanna go the GNR show wednesday?  I heard Axl's giving out cars!"

Hey, Oprah does it on her show!

I don't see why GnR' can't perform a new song from their forthcoming album. Perhaps Prostitute or If The World?

No chance, IMO.  It WOULD be cool to see a new track...but the whole album?  Uh-uh. :no:

Did someone say vagina?

No, oh well ...

As long as we're typing about wet dreams, I thought someone would have posted the word vagina. My bad.

Maybe close to the release date, there could be a show or two. Maybe another Vegas  in which some new material is played. Other than that, I believe we have heard all the new songs for awhile.

i would be cool, but i suppose not even a new song will be played during the last two shows. maybe a tease like 'round two', but nothing else.

We may see one more new song played on the last night of the tour, but even that is pushing it..

would be a bad move on GNR's part if they did that imo

Agree. That's already the effect of the leaks.

So..

What DO you guys think the last night will have in store for us? Anything special? Or just same ole same ole?

I don't think they are going to play anything new, so the entire album..? No, doesn't make any sense at all.

A new song would be great. Or something rare they don't do alot.

Or at the very least, they should do every new song they've done so far at the show, thatd be great at least. some general awareness of the new material

Chinese Democracy
Madagascar
The Blues
Better
There Was A Time
I.R.S.

That's more likely than the idea in the thread title...

ive already played the bootleg of maddy to death and looking back would prefer not to have heard it- so no thanks to any new stuff being played - imagine getting the album and having nothing you havent heard already , the excitement would defintely be lessened so its an awful idea

Iron Maiden are playing their latest album from beginning to end on their current tour, and it isn't going down well with fans!

they couldn't play the whole album because the people going to the show don't even know the new songs they already play during the tour. so you'd get a boring show for the most part. not saying that people won't like the songs just that the first time you hear a song you don't know the words, the rhythm .... so they would just stand there.

Saw them in Glasgow do it on Friday and gotta say the opposite is true. So many have seen the classics before, it was time to do something that no-one seems to do anymore. Plus we got Fear Of The Dark, Hallowed Be Thy Name and other oldies at the end.

Back on topic....... I think TWAT should get brought back out the closet pre-CD. Would be nice to hear it after 6 months being unplayed. Other than that no new stuff, CD will be worth the wait if we don't know half the album! Keep that part a surprise.

Here's hoping TWAT is played.

The thought of having TWAT studio sometime early 07 is just too amazing for words.  :drool:

The whole album?? Thats crazy talk  :nervous:

-Greg

The only way they could play the whole album is if they did it in a private party type setting in a secret after show party-gig type way.  The way they did the accoustic shows.  That way a buzz would be created and not much would be leaked.  But it's unlikely that shit would ever happen.

LP

No offense but why do people call a kick ass rock show "Same ole same ole"?

the moment they'd do that it will be out on the boards.

Not much of the accoustic shows leaked and not in any decent quality either.

LP

very stupid topic

stupid idea. but playing ONE new title + Civil War could be at least a little christmas gift.

+ why don't they put some live mp3s on the official website ? i suppose all this stuff is recorded right ?

so Guns, give us some decent soundboard bootlegs for Christmas, we deserve that !

most people who go to the shows don't want to hear the whole new album.

tell you the truth even as much as i can't wait to hear more CD material, i think if i was attending the show i wouldn't want them to play the whole thing anyway. as cool as it would be, it's just more fun being at a show when you already know most of the songs.
i like how they played Think About You the other day - something like that is a better idea.

yeah, Civil War would do the trick!

If they play all the new songs + TWAT and Rhiad, I think it would be cool enough! ;D

IMO that would be a really bad idea, they could play maybe TWAT or rhiad but no other new more then the 5 usual

that's because only people on the boards were interested in those shows
but the whole chinese democracy album that people expect for 13+ years and until a few days ago did not even have a release date? i think there would be people who'd pay lots of money to get that out

halfway off topic but I haven't ever seen a boot from China footage(02) either.

i hope not. i want this album to be a surprise....For the last show they should play every song they played in 06 and have 1 big fukin bash....And Axl says see ya in March at the end of PC...that would be good enough for me.. I wish I had the money to go to that last concert

Ive seen them 5x this year and except for 1 show they pretty much were amazing and blew me away every show...especially MSG and the first Hammerstein....

Im craving a show right now....

Since its their last show for a while, I think Axl will just play a lot of songs he really likes to play.

Well, it seems you folks don't understand the music business or economics in generall all that well.  I can understand why Axl can't stand most of us Internet motherfuckers now.

Do you realize that only a few thousand people are die-hard, message-boarding fans?  Consider the fact that GNR has played over 70 shows with an average audience size of 12,000 people, that makes the Internet contingent less than 1% of the GNR fan base.  This means that barely anyone out there would actually download the bootlegs of a live performance of Chinese Democracy.  However, the media buzz would be phenomenal.  Every entertainment outlet would cover such an event.  This would give the mass consumer base confidence that a real album exists and it's worth purchasing.  Right now, Axl is a bit of a laughing stock to the general public so people may be hesitant to buy.

I dont think this will ever happen...I dont even think I would want it to...Im sure if this album is all high tech and new like its rumoured to be they probably wont be able to play some of the songs live, or have it sound good anwyays

I dont think it would be a good idea because we would listen to the live version and it we wouldnt give it a fair judgement.

I think for the last day of the tour, they should play every song ever made.

That'd be cool.  :drool:

^^ :rofl:

Add Civil War and Prostitute to the setlist, and it'd be freakin' awesome.  :drool:

Ping

I was also at that show - magic!  But Guns are never going to do the same thing.

Considering those setlist pictures with the "options", based on that there they MAY have the POSSIBILITY of picking two other options for new songs. One more new song? MAYBE. Two more? Might be pushing it.. The whole album? No way. A live showcase of the album in its entirety would be at the absolute most, less than a week before the release date. Considering things are a bit more definite about the release of the album, and by the time they come back in January things will slowly but surely be in motion for the final stages of the album, they may feel more confident to debut another new song or something.. Either that, or we might see something new when the tour resumes..

But as I said in my previous post, they may play all the current new songs.. maybe even Rhiad? Or throw in some old oddities, whether it's stuff they've done on the tour on and off, like "Think about You" and "Used to Love Her", "You're Crazy", "Down on the Farm"....... Or something really rare like "Civil War".. who knows

not a chance, it would kill alot of the promotion for the album

It'll be the same show as the rest. Maybe Axl might say something about the next tour and about the album coming out in March (tentativly).

For all the people that want to hear the full CD live... let me tell you that Axl will play it 2 times in case the first you haven't hear it well...

come on that makes no sence on playing the whole album before being released...

 :-*

Announcing and playing the first single...that would be cool. That won't happen either.

um its not gonna happen.. if CD is released before the show it will be gay.. but if cd is released before, it might be pretty cool. but again, its never going to happen

Well, first they would have to rehears al the new songs. I don’t think they know them all. My impression is that some of the new songs they’ve played have change or evolved during the last year of t touring. So with that in mind it could also be difficult to do even “newer” songs justice. Would Frank even know the songs? To learn them is one thing, but to make them sound great is something completely different. Guns should IMO be a quality product and if some shitty/poor quality bootleg made it on to the net it could do more harm than good if you consider the average record buying public.

It takes a tight band to pull something like this of. And even though this band has grown immensely during the last half year of touring I don’t feel they would be up for the task. To play the play the whole album from A-Z would be great for the fans, but IMO playing the new material should be a much slower process. I now many of us want to here some new stuff now but it will be even better if it the live performances can do this new material justice.

I would love some surprises during a last show even if I would only be able to watch/hear it on some poor quality bootleg. I don’t think anything special besides a great show will happen though, but you never can tell with this band  :)

It would be spectacular but only for the most hardcore fans. And of course we all couldn't be there. Really if Axl and co. were to something so dramatic it should be months after the album is released when all of the songs are very well rehearsed and tight. Pink Floyd used to play Dark Side of the Moon in full on tour and it is epic. With CD, if it has great flow, I think it would be stellar if they played a few old tracks at the beggining and then played the entire album and then closed the show with some more old stuff. It could really be incredible.

I think it's possible you'll get a surprise on the last show to build the suspense for their return.. maybe one song.. maybe.. unlikely. Very unlikely the chance of a few new songs we haven't heard before.. I doubt they would do that just before things go quiet for a couple of months or more.

Announcing is good enough for me... : ok:

They already play Better, now don't they?  :hihi:

it's the fan base who are the safe bets on buying it.

there are so many people curious about this if the whole album got played live and bootlegged it would be everywhere and shitloads of people would download it, not just a few people on the gnr boards.

not going to happen, credit to Axl that we don't even know the song titles not alone how many songs or anything about the album

No way.......