Here Today... Gone To Hell!

never seen this thread before so im interested to see what others think --do you think Axl and Baz have penned anything together (even if its for a Bach album) or will in the future?

edit: Baz is also a great self - Guns promoter...he got himself on the tous simply by asking Axl .... do you think there may be a chance of an Axl appearance on Angel down or even Bach weasling onto CD or the follow up albums?

I def think they should, it would be bad ass.

I still am waiting to hear their version of Amazing Grace.  :hihi:

did you hear the writing on Supergroup, it was garbage. I don't think baz writes a whole lot. Most of Skid Row was Dave writing I believe. I haven't heard his solo stuff but I will check out Angel Down when it comes out

Well most of the Skid Row songs that are my favorite have Bach's name on the credits, so its safe to assume that I like his writing. And from the 3 shows I saw of Sebastian this year, I like his new stuff a lot.

So to me, Axl and Sebastian writing together would be awesome.

That's cool man :hihi: Whatever tickles your pickle

Let's pray that Baz is only around because he's a supportive friend and Axl is trying to help the guy out

To suggest that this guy is involved in the creative process with Axl is nauseating.

Maybe but not onto the forthcoming one or the follow ups. There are enough writers of talent in GNR, I suppose.

I hope not. Bach is a horrible songwriter. Most of Skid Row's songs were written by Snake Sabo and Rachel Bolan.

Look to his first solo album for examples of his "brilliant" songwriting: "I"ll Never Turn My Back On Rock N' Roll." Yeah, cool. Whatever man.  ::)

LOL

id like to see them doing a duet vocals on a song.. on a record.. maybe future record...

or axl doing backing vocals on a song for baz like he did with gilbys 96 cd

Seems to me like Baz knew more than most about the creative proceses and influences of old than most on that radio interview.

Bach actually did record a version of "Amazing Grace" right after 9/11. I might still have it lying on one of my backup discs.

The both of them singing together on a track would be cool (Amazing Grace or somethin'), but Axl writing with...Baz?

 :nervous:

I hope not...

I wonder if Baz's head would explode if he saw Axl and Nugent at the same time...

While I enjoy some of Baz's music with his former band Skid Row I cannot see that a songwriting collaboration between Axl and Baz would be a good idea.  Baz is too much of a puppet and he would basically agree with whatever Axl told him.

no and no. please no.  say what you will about the man's performance/vocal skills, but i don't think he's anywhere near axl's league in terms of songwriting.  exhibit a, "love is a bitch slap."

Agreed.  Vocally he holds his own but that doesn't make him a gifted lyricist.

I can't see it happening myself. :confused:

I'm pretty sure though, that if they ever did decide to collaborate on a tune, it would undoubtedly kick some serious fucking ass!!! :beer:

i doubt that they will do any extensive writing together.. i'm a huge baz fan.. but he isn't the greatest song writer.. i think it would be cool to hear.. and a great move by bach to try to get axl to be on a track or two on his new album..

He did write the lyrics for skid rows song "Wasted Time" which is about steven adler

That is a great song!

axl wrote the lyrics?

I'd like to see Sebastian Bach teach Axl Rose how to use Sonar or ProTools on a laptop like Sebastian was doing on Supergroup...

something Axl probably already knows enough about, but if he doesn't it could really help....

I really hope not, I also saw that supergroup writing session and it was horrible on bas's side.  His lyrics are prepubescent.  I believe one of his ideas was "I am the master, and I bring disaster..."  good one bas.  Bas is a fantastic singer and SR was a fun band, but c'mon Axl doesnt need his help.  If Axl wants help hes still friends with Izzy and I think Izzy is one of the best songwriters of all time.  But other than that, Tommys solo album was great, deep lines and good rhythms, I really think Tommy in many ways took Izzy's spot in the band. 

i really hope they don't, i mean i love baz, but he's not on a level that axl is with writing words, skid row was awesome but it wasn't him writing anything, maybe helping with a handful of songs in their three albums. axl is in or the only one writing awesome songs on ever album he's put out. so hopefully not

If it's anything like "take it back", no thanks-Axl's writing is fine-Izzy always added a sense of humor, I thought,-(pretty tied up) that Axl should use

Love baz.... my favorite vocalist.. BUT he only contributed about 6-8 lyrics in skid row total Although 'by your side' is awesome. I can't see axl getting much out of writing with baz.... its like a pro cyclist teaching a 3 year old how to ride with training wheels.... axl is just in a much higher league than baz... love him though

darkened room, wasted time, are great tunes!

I just want Baz to convince Axl to perform Nice Boys again, like they almost did at Inland Invasion. I got so excited when I heard Axl sing in reply to Baz's suggestion.

why do you think the album is taking so long?
Axl's windows keep crashing.

God No Please!

Baz is a 1980's hair band joke guys.  I am always perplexed that people here think so highly of Baz just because he supports Axl.  I saw him play two shows with Guns this year and its embarrassing IMO (at least in 2006 anyway).  He's just way too cheesy for my taste.  It's embarrassing that he is the best GNR could find as support (actually Papa Roach was the best and they werre surprisingly good live IMO).  But now Baz is the main warmup act, embarrasing.

I'll give him this, he has a great voice.  But he obviously can't write a lick.  His old songs (unlike GNR's back catalogue), have faded into irrelevancy along with all the Warrant, Poison, Cinderella and Dokken songs out there.

I love that he's such a great supporter of Axl and nuGNR, but Axl should not associated himself so closely, musically, with him IMO.

skid row was NEVER a hair band... they toured with Pantera and Soundgarden for fucks sakes!!

They also toured with Bon Jovi, had very long hair, and wrote a song called "Big Guns"

ya, for one album 2 years of their career.... and long hair has NOTHING to do with hairband...

and whats your point??? GNRs appetite had songs like "anything goes" that sounds pretty typical hairmetal to me..

I'm not putting them down.  I like Skid Row.  But you said they were NEVER a hair band.  The truth of the matter is they were lumped in with the other hair bands when they first came out.  This is not a label I use personally.  Their first album had a harder edge then some other bands lumped in this category such as Poison.  However, their music was more similar when they started to Poison then Pantera.  Yes, Skid Row got progressively heavier with each of their next two albums and moved away from the hair band conotation.  I for one don't particularly like the hair band label as it dismisses any talent whatsoever. 

Sorry for taking this thread so off topic.

I dont like the hairband label either.. At first really, I dismissed the whole Genre, but sometime around I came through and judged the bands by their music and not by their cover.... Fact is NONE of the bands really fit the label...

and bands like Ratt, Dokken, Skid Row, Cinderella etc. are just really good bands...

its a shame bands get dragged down because of a label and ignorant people who havent even heard the music and make generalizations.. ::)

Wow, that's precious.? You don't often see people refer to those bands are "really good bands".? You know why?? Because they weren't really good bands.? GNR is a really good band.? Nirvana was a really good band.? Sound Garden was a really good band.? Aerosmith is a really good band.? AC/DC was a really good band.? Ratt, Dokken, Skid Row, and Cinderella were a fad that wrote nothing of relevance...nothing that will stand the test of time.....nothing even close to song with the same impact as the other bands I mentioned.? And I grew up litening to the 80's hair bands.? Trust me, I know the lyrics to every hair band song ever written.? I listen to Hair Nation as my #1 preset on my Sirius.? But to call that music great is not even right.? It's cheesy and I use it for nostalgic purposes, not because I think Warrant was awesome.? There is a reason that style of music never made it...a reason why it is no longer imitated.

Do I like Baz personally, yes.? Do I want to see him collaborating with a rock god like Axl....please NO!!!!

I would love to hear someone argue how Nirvana is a better band than Skid Row.  Im guessing it would be something like "cause they sold more records and i mean theyre nirvana."  I mean the fact is Nirvana blows, they didnt create grunge they were just the poster boys the media was determined to back.  Soundgarden was a much better band and a better example of grunge.  Skid Row was a much more talented band on every instrument and I would love to hear someone argue that they werent because it would be nonsense.  If Baz wanted to he could offkey mumble every word to his songs, but he doesnt, Kurt Cobain never could have sung like Baz.  Hell im not that big of a Skid Row fan, but to say so matter of factly that nirvana was much better is nonsense.  People can like what they like and you might like Nirvana better than Skid Row, but that doesnt mean they are better, unless youre going by albums sold in which case I think that makes Jessica Simpson the best musician right now.

and ac/dc wasnt cheesey as shit??? angus ran around in a fucking school boys outfit and they sang songs like "big balls"...

I dont see what your saying... people today say the same stuff about grunge.. that was cheesey as shit... dress like you just got out of bed, wear some wrinkled clothes, play horribly live because you have "feel" .

what makes Nirvana a better band that someone like Skid Row??? because media tells you so? because the media sucks Cobains cock like he was the second John Lennon or something?? he was a depressed man who couldnt play guitar for shit...

even Dave Grohl said in an interview he didnt like what Nirvana was all about...


and a fad??? Ratt sold 20million albums world wide, their heyday was from 1983-1992 similar to the other bands posted?? How long was grunge around?? about from 1991-1994.. 3 years... sounds like more of a fad to me...

well did baz wrote "quicksand jesus"

one of my favor balads

i think it would be bad ass if they did i remember you together.

Oh yeah...Sweet Little Sister and Rattlesnake Shake are real classics ::)

People don't like Baz is one thing, but say that he's a bad songwriter is ridiculous! A man that can write songs like "Wasted Time", "Slave to the Grind" and "By Your Side" just CAN'T be a bad songwriter!!! Ok, he's not as good as Axl, but he's a great songwriter!!

I wanted to argue with you but you had to go and throw in "Wasted Time". That really is a great song.

I do know that one of the reasons he left Skids was because he wanted to write more and they wouldn't let him. On the other hand, their tunes without him have been TERRIBLE so who knows.

Baz has never been a good singwriter, he didn't even write that much in Skid Row, so I highly doubt it. Plus if Axl wanted to move on in his music, a Baz tinted song wouldn't be the best idea to be honest now would it.

Do you guys know why Sebastian Bach didn't write a lot with Skid Row? Have you guys ever seen that movie "Rockstar", that tells the history of a band called "Steel Dragon"? So...do you guys remember the reason why "Izzy" left the band? So...same reason!

Dear God, I hope not.

Baz is a cool guy and I admire the enthusiasm he shares for Guns N' Roses and Axl's work, but he is nowhere NEAR as musically talented as Axl - and his "has-been" status over the past ten years is proof of this.

do we have to solve a puzzle first, or will you just tell us

Baz is a great vocalist and an amazing performer. Back in my youth, if I wasn't listening to GN'R I was listening to Skid Row... that said, his songwriting style is not GN'R and any collaboration with Baz would be out of place on a GN'R album.

Then again... a Duet for a B-Side might be welcome... or Axl writing with Baz for a Baz solo album :)

To make a long story short...the band was Rachel's band, Baz was not a member that started the band, so he just couldn't write a lot of lyrics because it was "Rachel's band"...there's a tv show - which name I forgot - where Maria(Baz's wife) said that she remember of spend some time in a room with Baz while Rachel and Dave were writing songs for the Subhuman Race album, baz couldn't help them out just because they didn't let him do it...so, if people are gonna claim that "Baz is a bad songwriter because he didn't write most of the skid row songs", well, there's the reason why he didn't write most of the songs!!!

That's his excuse for his timein Skid Row.? It's been 15 years since then.? With his amazing voice, if he could write a lick, he'd be a rock god like Axl today.? But because all he has is a voice with no song writing ability, he is who he is.? The 2 times I saw them this year, those 5 new songs by his band that he performed were horrible.? Maybe it will take a few listens, but on first impression they were generic cheese.

And AC/DC was certainly chessy in their own way, but they wrote music that will be with us forever folks.? They wrote anthems.? As a matter of fact, back in the day, GNR would crank up AC/DC before gigs to pump themselves up for shows.? To even utter BAz name in the same breath as Ac/DC is a crime against good taste.

ACTUALLY, Baz left skid row in 1995.. thats about 12 years... and from 1995-1999 NEITHER SIDE was allowed to record music...

one of the reasons baz left is because he wanted to write more music and the skids guys didnt want him too because they had a way of doing things..it was rachel, snakes, scottis band!!

to this day current skid row hates/doesnt play wasted time because "baz wrote most of it"
 ::)

I find it unlikely, there both in rock bands, but realistically they have different sounds, I have nothing against Bach, but after seeing them sing ?My Michelle? together, I hope not.

I think axl is too smart to let baz write anything with him for at least the next 5 years. He helped him enough with all of the exposure he has given baz recently

Baz already HAS had alot of exposure in the past... And Hes good friends with axl.. is it not allowed for axl to have friends?? ::)

hell he scared most of the ones hes had away!!

well baz wrote 5-6 lyrics for "slave to the grind",and i'm sure he have atelent for it
btw baz is the one of the greatest frontman for me,just look skid row performance at donington 1992 of "youth gonna wild"

btw he gave a badass in skid row atitude,but i don't talk about skid row because it was my second band

Wow I hat for this to be my first post but Im a facts not a fiction kind of guy.
Sebastian wrote most of the lyrics to the Songs Slave to the Grind ,Wasted Time
Fire Sign,Remains to be seen.

From his Solos CD that came out in 99 Counter Punch,Done Bleeding
& Never Turn my back on Rock n Roll.

New songs slated for Angel Down

Take you down with me,By your side love is a Bitch slap & Always & Never
the Same are great songs. Baz dose not write songs by him self since he dose not
play an Instrument to the level of his singing.

Other facts he was fired in 96 from Skid Row for treating to Kick Rachel Bolans
rear end, He has not really had time to do a Solo CD since the first one do to staring in Broad way
shows like Jekyly n Hyde Rocky Hoarer Musical,& In the biggest tour of his life Jesus Christ Super Star.
He was also in the Movies Don't Fear the reaper,Final rise ,Point Doom,hosted VH1 Shows like Forever Wild


He did find time in 2005 to record the Vocals for The Frame Shift 2 project an Absence of Empathy
which if you have not heard this CD you are truly missing out.

Sebastian & Axl in a calibration would be great.  : ok:

hopefully not..

Why not just bring in Vince Neil and Brett Michaels too? That should sweeten things up on CD. ::)

The last thing GN'R needs is washed up 80s influences.

How is Bach a washout from the 80s but Axl is not? You know, a lot of people would say Axl is a washed-up 80s star. Critics certainly will when CD comes out. You know those shots are coming.

so axl should take himself off the cd??? :hihi:


jk.. but ya, Baz is heavy metal.. bret michaels is glam/pop-metal.. so dont compare them :hihi:

I don't care about other people. Axl is a real musician with genuine music. That's the difference. Baz never went beyond standarised 80s rock. How can one even compare GN'R with nobodies like Skid Row? GN'R should be compared to Led Zeppelin, Deep Purple and the likes of those.

I compare them for their mediocricy, not their style.

Bach is in NO way mediocre.. the man has one of the best voices in rock ever.. with great range..

I like you Poloxxum your a good kid..  : ok: but I must disagree witth you!

I'm putting on my flame-proof gear here, but I think Bach has a better "metal" voice than Axl.

There's no doubt about the voice. Songwriting on the other hand, that I never felt went beyond good normal rock. Nothing against Skid Row, but GN'R is in a league of their own.

We're not talking voice here.

. Skid Row was the first Heavy Metal/Hard Rock band to debut #1 on Bill board Charts
There first 2 CDs received rave reviews. There 3rd CD Subhuman Race was Much Heavier & Darker than it's
predecessors but also showed a band that was not really wanting to record with each other.

Many feel Sub was a head of it's Time some just did not like it.
Sebastian co wrote 4 out of the 11 songs on the CD.  Sebastian & Axl should work together
It makes sense For them to work together.

I like Axl always have always will but against Sebastian in singing he falls short.

Britney Spears has also debuted on #1.

I don't care about charts. Baz and Axl does not fit in terms of writing, that's my stance.

I don't know anything about B Spears,Welcome to the jungel fits with
Yoth gone wild. But ok Sebastian did not write that song.

Sebastian has a much Heavyer edge than Axl but If they did a Ballad it would work.


Wasted Time & Noveber Rain are a great match & yes Sebastian wrote the words to Wasted Time.

When Slave made number 1 it was a different market than today. Back then, record sales ruled the roost. To get a number 1 album, you had to be good and sell a lot of records. Nowadays, the record plays second fiddle to touring revenue because of the popularity of downloading and the fact that almost everybody has access to a CD burner. It used to be that a tour promoted an album... now an album promotes a tour.

That said... Slave to the grind did cheat a little... The album was not going to be stocked in many US retailers thankls to the Tipper Gore demonisation of rock music. Get the Fuck Out was not a popular song title with these retailers, so Skid Row released 2 versions - the second version contained Beggars Day instead of the more offensive alternative. I wonder how many albums they would have sold if the second version didn't contain a song that was not available anywhere else? Many fans purchased both versions, so the sales figures were inflated somewhat.

Finally, any person who thinks Skid Row are a standardised 80's band have not listened to Subhuman Race. The critics loved the album. Some of their older fans did not like the direction it had taken the band, but a lot of new fans may well have been attracted to them had it not been for grunge coming along and spoiling the party.

Skid Row (the album) can not be judged as a good example of their creativity. Sure, it was 80's cheese-rock, but that is what they were told to make. Bon Jovi signed and promoted them (and took a chuck of their royalties as well). When they played these songs live around the Subhuman Race tour (I saw it twice), you got a much better apprecitation for the 'real' Skid Row, and they were a much more mature band than people give them credit for.

if Axl and Baz decided to collaborate, we wouldnt see the record till the year 3036......in case you havent noticed Sebatian Bach has not put out 1 album yet since he has been out of Skid Row...just Bring em bach alive in 1999 and the majority of the songs on that were live Skid Row songs.....The only guy who puts out records less frequently than bach is.....well you know who......

Thats not true.

There is The last hard men  recorded in 97
Bach 2 basic put out in 2001 While he was doing his broadway shows

Fame Shift 2 an Absence of Empathy which was voted the # 2
CD of 2005 by Metal Edge & #1 by Prog Metal internet fans votes.

His next CD is another Solo one called ANGEL DOWN Sebastian has kept very busy since his first singel in 1985 came out with the band Kid Wikkid.

Here is a list
1985 Kid Wikkid / "Maple Metal" / lp & cassette / Attic Records / "Take A Look At Me"/ Canada
1989 Skid Row / Skid Row / all formats / Atlantic Records
1989 Skid Row / 18 & Life / single / Atlantic Records / US & ? /
1989 Skid Row / "Stairway To Heaven - Highway To Hell - The Make A Difference CD "/ CD , LP, & Cassette / ? / "Holidays in the Sun " / Worldwide
1989 Skid Row / "Moscow Music Peace Festival " / DVD, VHS & Laserdisc / Elektra Home Video / ? / Worldwide
1990 Skid Row / " Oh Say, Can You Scream ?" / VHS & Laserdisc / A*Vision Home Video / all / Worldwide
1990 Motley Crue / "Dr. Feelgood" / CD ,Cassette, & LP / Elektra / "Time For Change" / Worldwide
1990 Ace Frehley / "Trouble Walkin'" / CD , Cassette, & LP / Megaforce Atlantic / "Trouble Walkin'" ,"Back To School", "Too Young To Die" / Worldwide
1991 Skid Row / Slave To The Grind (version with GET THE FUCK OUT ) / all formats / Atlantic Records
1991 Skid Row / Slave To The Grind (version with BEGGAR'S DAY ) / all formats / Atlantic Records
1992 Skid Row / Bside Ourselves / CD & Cassette / Atlantic Records / C'Mon & Love Me , What You're Doing , Little Wing, Delivering The Goods / Worldwide
1992  Lenny Kravitz / "Give Peace A Chance"/ CD Cassette & Vinyl Single / ? /- / Worldwide
1993 Skid Row / Roadkill / VHS & Laserdisc / A*Vision Home Video / Worldwide
1993 Skid Row / "No Frills Video" / VHS & Laserdisc / A*Vision Home Video / Worldwide
1993 Gwar / "Skullhead Face" / VHS / ? / - / US & ?
1993 Gwar / Skulhead Face / DVD
1993 Duff McKagan / "Believe In Me "/ CD, Cassette, & LP / Geffen / "Trouble" / Worldwide
1994 Various / Airheads / VHS / ? / Born to Raise Hell / NOT CREDITED / Worldwide
1994 Various / Airheads (WITH SUBTITLES) / VHS / ? / Born to Raise Hell / NOT CREDITED / Worldwide
1995 Skid Row / Subhuman Race / All formats / Atlantic Records / all songs / all countries
1995 Skid Row / "SUBHUMAN BEINGS ON TOUR !!!" / CD & Cassette / East West Records Japan / all / Japan
1995 Skid Row / "13 & LIVE " / CD / East West /  United Kingdom
1995 Skid Row / "The Prophecy" / Laserdisc & VHS / Mirimax Films / "Breakin' Down" / Worldwide 1996 VARIOUS / "Spacewalk : A Tribute to Ace Frehley / CD, Cassette, & LP / ? / "Rock Bottom, Take Me To The City" DOMESTIC VERSION / US

1996 Various / "Spacewalk : A Tribute to Ace Frehley / CD, Cassette, & LP / ? / "Rock Bottom", "Take Me To The City" , "Save Your Love" IMPORT VERSION / Japan & ?
1996 Various / "Working Man : A Tribute To Rush "/ CD & ? / Magna Carta / "Working Man " & "Jacob's Ladder"/ US , Japan & ?
1997 Ritchie Scarlett / "Wise Guy From New York " / CD & ? / Axis Records /"Sly Little Bitch" + / US + ?
1997 Various / "Stairway To Heaven : A Tribute To Led Zeppelin" / CD & ? / East West Records Japan / "Communication Breakdown " & "Immigrant Song" / Japan & ?/
1998 Various / "Thunderbolt : A Tribute To AC%DC " / CD & ? / ? / "TNT" , "Little Lover " / Worldwide
1998 Various / "Forever Mod : A Tribute To Rod Stewart" / CD & ? / DeRock / Tonight's The Night / Japan & ?
1998 Skid Row / 40 Seasons / CD & ? / Atlantic Records  / all songs DOMESTIC VERSION
1997 The Last Hard Men / " Scream" Movie Soundtrack / CD, Cassette, & LP / TVT Records / "School's Out" / Worldwide
1998 / 2000  Sebastian Bach & Friends / "BRING 'EM BACH ALIVE! / CD / Atlantic - eASTwEST Records / ALL / Japan / Asia /
2000 Various / Iron Maiden Tribute : Slave To The Power / CD / Meteor City / " Children Of The Damned " /
2000 Various /Randy Rhoads Tribute / CD / EastWest Japan / "I Don't Know", "Crazy Train", "Beleiver" / Japan /
2001 The Last Hard Men  / CD / Get Off My Bach Inc. / 7 songs out of 18 / web only /
2001 Sebastian Bach / BACH 2: BASICS / CD / Get Off My Bach Inc. / All / web only / 
2001 Various / TWISTED FOREVER : ATribute to TWISTED SISTER / CD / Koch Records / "You Can't Stop Rock'N'Roll" /
2001 The Last Hard Men / Spitfire Records / 7 songs / worlwide / in stores now
2002 Various / The Dream's In You / The Dream's In You /
2002 Anton Fig / Figments / "Know Where You Go" ( with Ace Frehley ) /
2004 Sebastian Bach / Forever Wild / DVD / EagleVision
2005 Sebastian Bach, Richard Greico, Angie Everheart / Point Doom / DVD
2005 Various / Subdivisions: A Tribute To The Music Of Rush / "Lakeside Park" & "Tom Sawyer" / Magna Carta
<>2005 Frameshift 2 / An Absence Of  Empathy / All / ProgRock Records 
2005 Gilmore Girls / Complete Fourth Season Box Set / DVD/ Warner Brothers Home Video
2005 Micheal Schenker Group/ Heavy Hitters / CD / "I Don't Live Today"/ Cleopatra Records
2005 Gilmore Girls / Complete Fifth Season Box Set / DVD / Warner Brothers Home Video
2005 Skid Row / Hi Five / Internet Album / Atlantic Rhino
2006 Various Artists / BANG YOUR HEAD Festival BEST OF / DVD / 'Youth Gone Wild' / Locomotive music
2006 Various Artists /BANG YOUR HEAD FESTIVAL 2005 10TH ANNIVERSARY DVD / Big Guns /
2006/Liberty & Justice/Soundtrack of soul CD/Another Nail/L&J Records.

 :yes: : ok: :yes: : ok: :yes: : ok: :yes: : ok:



 

let me rephrase what I said....Sebastian Bach has not recorded anything that anyone gives a shit about in 15 years...I love Bach, I have all of his cd's....and I will by Angel Down the minute it comes out....but lets get real...he is milkin the Skid Row songs...I dont blame him though,,,they are great songs and he deserves to play them whenever he wants because he WAS IS AND ALWAYS WILL BE SKID ROW......without him they would have been shit...much like they are now

S Bach, hasnt written anything worth wild in years.   I hope Axl stays away from him in the writting dept.

Everything you said about Bach could be applied to Axl. So, why are you so hard on Bach?

GNR arguments are ripe with hypocrisy.

Great point 

UM you should hear the song Another Nail that came out this year on the Liberty & Justice CD Soundtrack of Sould Another Nail is a Killer song co written by Bach 2006.

It a Heavy tune :yes:

I just don't understand why a GNR ally like Bach is trashed so much. Hell, he promotes GNR as much as he promotes his own stuff. He's a public cheerleader for GNR when there aren't that many of those. He even saved the show in Europe when Axl got sick and couldn't finish.

I've got nothing against those aspects. I just don't see him as a great musician. Good singer, not much else.

Great Singer ,All so seems? to be in demand as an? Actor.

Point Doom
Final Rinse
Jeckyll n Hyde
Rocky Horror
Don't fear the reaper
Gilmore Girls 4 seasons
Traylor Park Boys

Plus he was the host of 4 Ever Wild,a part of Super Group,The documentary I married Sebastian Bach,Host of the top 40 Metal Tunes & Celeberty Duets.

Damn is there nothing this multi talented guy can? can not do?


IMO Wasted Time is the best Ballad Skid Row ever did.
In a darken room was grate as well.

I think the new one he wrote with Roy Z By your side
is at that level if not "BETTER"? than those above.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MoKtMVu2Owg&eurl=

The song was written by Sebastian Bach & Roy Z

& will be out in 2007 on the Angel Down CD all Killer Tunes
on Sebastians up coming CD

1. Angel Down
2. American Metal Head
3. Always & Never The Same
4. Devils d?j? vu
5. Take You Down With Me
6. Beyond The Law
7. Ripped You Away
8. Gemini
9. Bring You Down.
10. Just cant tell
11. Walk away
12. Stuck inside
13. Weight of the world?
14. By your side.
15. Love is a BITCH SLAP!
16. You don't understand


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SWOg5NVvFnY
"You Dont Understand"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tqHmHj6PkiI
Take you down

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s90bDGCb_oI&mode=related&search=
stuck inside

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8GU7SdnXGdM
american metalhead- cuts in and out though

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MoKtMVu2Owg
by your side London

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-3k-5fumhfU
By your side live at MSG

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JkFNt3TGe8U
Bring Me down

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qPrMCFMN4iU&eurl=
American metalhead/the threat from Beijing pop festival.

 :smoking:

Bach is, I'm sure, a great guy - but I really don't want to hear any of that shit on a GN'R record.

Any of what shit cool tunes?

Great Singer ,All so seems  to be in demand as an  Actor.

Point Doom
Final Rinse
Jeckyll n Hyde
Rocky Horror
Don't fear the reaper
Gilmore Girls 4 seasons
Traylor Park Boys

Plus he was the host of 4 Ever Wild,a part of Super Group,The documentary I married Sebastian Bach,Host of the top 40 Metal Tunes & Celeberty Duets.

Damn is there nothing this multi talented guy can  can not do?


IMO Wasted Time is the best Ballad Skid Row ever did.
In a darken room was grate as well.

I think the new one he wrote with Roy Z By your side
is at that level if not "BETTER"  than those above.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MoKtMVu2Owg&eurl=

The song was written by Sebastian Bach & Roy Z

& will be out in 2007 on the Angel Down CD all Killer Tunes
on Sebastians up coming CD

1. Angel Down
2. American Metal Head
3. Always & Never The Same
4. Devils d?j? vu
5. Take You Down With Me
6. Beyond The Law
7. Ripped You Away
8. Gemini
9. Bring You Down.
10. Just cant tell
11. Walk away
12. Stuck inside
13. Weight of the world 
14. By your side.
15. Love is a BITCH SLAP!
16. You don't understand


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SWOg5NVvFnY
"You Dont Understand"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tqHmHj6PkiI
Take you down

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s90bDGCb_oI&mode=related&search=
stuck inside

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8GU7SdnXGdM
american metalhead- cuts in and out though

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MoKtMVu2Owg
by your side London

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-3k-5fumhfU
By your side live at MSG

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JkFNt3TGe8U
Bring Me down

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qPrMCFMN4iU&eurl=
American metalhead/the threat from Beijing pop festival.

Acekickin, are you Baz>  I ask, because I cannot for the life of me imagine anyone that defend Skid Row and Baz has much as you have here unless they were themselves, Baz.

It's obvious you like Baz, and that's great.  I like his voice and Ilike him as a person for sure.  But as an artist, not only is he not in the same ballpark as Axl, he's not even playing the same game.  The proof is all around you my friend.  Who headlined this tour?  Who is the bigger rock star?  Who has to kiss who's ass constantly?  And finally, take a look at the songs written by Axl and their impact on rock and place them next to the songs written by Baz......a whole different league.

I would be so so disappointed if they collaborated on song writing.  I don't mind Baz singing on My Michele live, but please don't cheese up GNR with Baz.

No but I have been asked this before here is who I am

http://primoluciano.com/


Nothing about Baz is Cheese listen to his songs
no Cheese there man.

Songs written by Baz

Slave to the grind
Mudkicker
In a darken room
Wasted Time (written about Steven Adler)
Never turn my back on Rock n Roll
Done Bleeding
Counter Punch.
There are many more but listen to them
Ball park Baz is more than in the same game


I hate to compare them as to who has done what but what has Axl done other than
Guns n Roses? Which don't get me wrong Im a Guns / Axl fan? but what has he done?