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so this was mentioend in the portland thread

-  After Better he said "I know we're not supposed to talk about it, but that was a song from our "forthcoming album."  He said it with a grin and then said something else but nothing really of note.

Perhaps there are legalities holding it up? or axl was just joking on all the silence he gives the fans :hihi:

for the love of GOD i hope this is good news

Maybe he was taking a shot at the theory that the album is comming out in secret and is just going to appear in stores.

maybe nobody knows shit!

Depends on the way he said it.

it could be either way...
but I dont think it's anything worth analyzing, since no conclusion would come of it, but would only turn this into the bash festival.

Perhaps it is legal issue with the songs name or some parts of the song.

maybe he doesnt want to talk about it because hes now no idea when its coming out

well somebody better say something! it'll be shit-on-axl city if it doesnt come out.

I really think there is nothing that can be read into with that comment. 

I think he was. about the "I know we're not supposed to talk about it" bit.

Nice we're on joking terms with him. :hihi:

Perhaps he was just making fun of us and is now reading this thread and laughs his ass off!

Maybe Axl posted here, about a release date and it got deleted....  :rofl:

Pretty sure he was referencing the fact that the boards always take offense to the fact that he never mentions he album on stage...a little wink, wink nudge, nudge, if you will.

 ;) ;) :lmao: :lmao:


Well not yet, me thinks.  But maybe he is doing so very soon.

It would be great if he personally announced it on the web forums first.

I can see the joke part in the second half ?of the sentence and the grin but the "we're not supposed to talk about it" concerns me. Doesn't sound like a joke to me. More like "guys, it's not that I don't want to talk about it , but I'm not talking about it because I can't". Something out of his control, like legal reasons or something with the record company, and he's got to keep his mouth shut. To me, that would explain why nothing has been said for a while.

That is definitely very strange..... ?Sounds like to me either there is some legalities being straighten out delaying it again or it's just like he's not saying anything again even acknowledging it until there is a firm date set.

Forthcoming album? Perhaps legal issues using Chinese Democracy, because someone else has claimed that name or has used it?

I can see the joke in the first half as I said but can't see how better being from "the forthcoming album" can be a joke. ???

I think some people are reading too much in it.

Being that I believe none of us enjoy being tortured, (except maybe lucky,or brownstowne) I believe AXL's comment is a tiny signal to us that it is coming out, soon.

I think it was Axls way of commenting on everyone complaining about the fact that he never says anything about the new songs.

I cant believe this topic has a second page. You guys analyze to deep into the dumbest shit.

At least he talked about the album.

Still no hope for 06 though.

I think we should dig Sigmund Freud up out of his grave...I think he would be able to tell us what Axl really meant :hihi:

Regardless, this is vintage Axl dropping lines that he knows will get people talking and speculating, which he thrives on. I rule out 2006, and even the first quarter of 2007. The CD itself would get lost in the Christmas season if they rushed it out at this time. While spending power is high at this time, I think it would be better to release it at a time when a big deal can be made of it, because it will need all of the publicity it can get, not a front page ad in a Best Buy circular with a 4973498573 inch Flat Screen TV for $8.97.

If he said it last month, this thread would be on page 20 by now.

its not coming out in 06.. thats a definite I think...

As long as it comes out within the next 3-4months ill be happy :yes: first quarter of 07

Yeah I was the one that relayed Axl's comments from the Portland show.  I was straining like hell to hear every word so I could bring you guys some kind of info.....
But he was definitely smiling the whole time he was talking about it.  I'm not sure who told him not to talk about it.  One possibility is Universal told him not to mention the album any more so that:

           A.  People may forget all that talk about an '06 release (yeah right!)
                   
                                                           or

           B.  They're planning some kinda mass promotion for a rapid end-of-year release.

Ya never know.......

I was at the show last night and I could have swore that he said "and I guess I'm supposed to say, that was a song on our forthcoming album".

I think he just said that because people have been bitching that he doesn't say anything at all.

that's my take

^ that sounds about right

axl...you little message board reader, you   :hihi:

 :hihi:  if you think about it, if there was a message board about you out there talking about your every move, it would be hard not to read.

Can you imagine hundreds of people talking about you 24/7 :nervous:

I think It is coming SOON, very soon actually.... I mean fact is GNR probably doesnt even know when its going to come out right now..

once you hand the master to the record company there is ALOT of stuff that has to be worked out... Im sure the goal all along was to get it out during the U.S. tour, maybe it still is (remember there are dates in Janruary.) but something happened, or Universal Couldnt meet that deadline...it wasnt universals deadline, only axl/merck... Universal has their own agenda..

It was onnly a wishful thinking deadline...IMO

fact is, This isnt 2002, and it looks like GNR is in for the long haul. they are already scheduling dates far into next year... Chinese democracy is coming..

I was told that the chinese democratic party sued the band for the album title copyright...
someone call merck1!1one!!

According to Jeff Boerio, a long time GN'R fan who owns the Dust N' Bones mailing list:

After Better, [Axl] said that he's learned that he's supposed to say things like 'that's a song from our forthcoming album.'

Guys, I think it has been the plan all along to stay silent and then drop the album without warning. Maybe the plan all along was to release it on December 19th? Axl did say all year that it would be out "late fall" and i believe fall ends the 20th. If so, shit should leak out later this week or the weekend, maybe release the single on Monday. Yea, i know i'm an optimist.

as long as axl said something about album, and forthcoming, fine with me :hihi:

We read WAY too much into everything...like the people on here who think that, because he hadn't mentioned the album in concert, it hasn't been recorded and will never arrive... :no:

it means he is MOCKING us and those who say he never talks about the new songs...

Its a joke or a jab as you may see it.

It's great that Axl is having fun with all of this.

 ::)

Thats exactly what it is! We know Axl and or Beta read what we say and it was not only a joke, but I think an honest attempt to please us. We really cant expect him to start introducing every song ! but that was a start.? Hell- If I was the singer and was playing several tracks that had been leaked for months, I think I would be slightly dissapointed to have to introduce the songs to the fans. But I guess if we had CD- he wouldnt have to introduce them !!!

You're right lol.  But I don't think it is for those who say he never talks about the new songs but for those who say he never mentions the cd.

okay lets test this out... axl, if you're reading this, use the word "doodoo" during the next show.  while we're at it, will you be my best friend?

Looks like its in the record companies hands.  I thought everything was Axl's decision, the silence, the hold-up, the money being poured into it, etc.  But I'm guessing there is some legal issues going on in using the GN'R name on a new album maybe??

Only time will tell, but we can only hope that time is shorter than longer. I hope to hear a lot about all this "behind the scenes" stuff, if that is what is going on.

Nonetheless, I can't wait!!!  : ok:

a.

Sounds like a good sign. Most artists DO do that... say shit like "This is our new song xxxxxxx from our forthcoming album"....

Not GN'R though (until last night apparently).. most people have no clue what the songs are or where they're from...

So I view this as a good sign. Sounds like people are overreacting though

i disagree. why would there be any legal issues using the gnr name? If they can use it everywhere else, ie. tour, rolling stone, every other article in any type of medium that has been in the media...and so on, then there would be no hold up on when the album comes out, as far as that point is concerned. 

oh god, jack, you're missing the whole fuckin point.  he was mocking ppl on the boards.  it's not like he literally just learned that he should say that.  He was making a joke.

Lol did I really?

While I was typing it.. I was kinda like "maybe I should read into why people seem pissed.."

 :hihi:

My bad. I wasn't trying to be an Axl defender

I dont think he said "we arent supposed to talk about" I think he said  " there are things I am supposed to talk about like "this is a song from our forthcoming album"    He was just telling the audience that "better" was in CD.

first off he told all the downloading motherfuckers the song was from CD at the broadcast of the inland invasion, and second by this time you'd think he wouldn't need to inform the crowd it was a new song...come on ::)

I think it was a jab at that Kaneda dude over at mygnr. He's been bitchin' for months that Axl never introduces the new songs or mentions the new album at concerts. Now he can shut up about that.

For some reason this cracked me up.   :hihi:  I guess there's just something about "doodoo" that is and always will be funny to me.   :hihi:

As far as the original question ("Axl comments on better what do you think he meant??"), I take it at face value: "Better" is a song off of GNR's forthcoming album.

<shrugs>

<leaves>

I think he was takin a shot at jarmo for not letting us discuss certain things and to all of us who have bitched about the censorship :hihi: :hihi: :hihi:

Actually..........I think it is because the record label wants him to start saying things like that to start "promoting" the album.

I'm sure the delay has more to do with Axl and the record compnay involved in some sort of dispute.

Axl was bitching about the lack of support record companies give old bands.  I'm sure its Axl's way or no way.

You've got me worried now..

Imagine the next show: first the band will jodel for 2 hours and then Axl will say "doodoo" instead of goodnight  :hihi:

I don't think he meant much with his comment on Better. Worst case scenario I think would be if he's fighting the record company and CD will be pushed back.

No, you're being mocked, which is funny because it means Axl thinks that jerking his fans around is his idea of a funny joke.

*shrugs

It is what it is, we'll always have the leaks, the Boston promo and the minute and a half of static that everyone swears is a studio version of the Blues.

what minute and a half of static that is the blues??

I think he was making a joke of himself by introducing the song - he never has done that. Also, record companies are bullshit - how many rock stars have publicly complained about record companies ripping them off, taking most of the earnings, and limiting their creative ability, not to mention the bullshit they have to put up with. Most recording artists would rather create their own label then deal with the fuckers at record companies. It is not an easy life in the music business. People get ripped every day.

I still think what I originally thought - Axl will tour with these guys, decides if he likes them, get into the studio as it seems he does like the guys, and we'll have a disc next year with a new tour. I really don't think he is touring just to bring in some cash - he knows he will look like a fool if a new disc isn't released.

I wonder why Axl hasn't started his own record label? Does he need the backing of a record company?

I think he meant it as a joke  :yes:





and i love those little jokes! :beer:
Axl :love:

maybe we all need to wait till march 6

Or maybe he just made a comment with no hidden meaning at all.

:-\

Or maybe we don't need to re-enact old threads in order to mention the release date.