Here Today... Gone To Hell!

I've wanted this album for so long, but at this point, it's almost more about closure than it is about hearing new music. I think about "Chinese Democracy" all day, evey-day, like it's always on the back of my mind. I feel very anxious about it; as though I were on death row and am waiting for the governor to call for a pardon. Or as though I were a detective covering an unsolved murder. Either way, it's this obsessive thing that's driving me nuts. I feel as though I can't move on with my life until this album is released. I need closure.

...wow, creepy.

You'll probably get bashed, but I think it's a good point. I constantly think about the album too. I want to hear the music, but when it comes out it will mean so much more. Guns are finally back. They can proceed with releasing more albums without dealing with the same pressure, and "backlash" of being a "different" band. And more importantly, hopefully the band members can move on with their lives.

As Axl said in 1990 he wanted to bury Appetite with UYI. I think he'll feel the same way about CD when it's finally released.

It's just such a huge event in so many more ways then just new material.

I agree. I really want to hear it, but i have heard songs which are probably on the album that im gonna find it hard to like. but the ones i do like give me a lot of hope. and they also happen to be Axl's favorites, which means there may be more like those on CD.

Definitely both. Mainly enjoyment of the music for me, but in a distant second, I want to see closure to the GNR saga.

As I've known since 1987,  Axl's a very talented dude. :beer: :smoking:


I've been waiting for this album for so long now that it's not even funny anymore. :'( :crying: :'(


I just know that when Axl finally releases this thing, it's going to be the best thing invented since Texas Toast. :yes:

The way I see it, Chinese Democracy is just the beginning of many good things to come....

The "closure" of the old gnr era was the greatest hits, Chinese Democracy is the start of the new gnr

I'm starting to lose faith that it will ever come out. "13 Tuesdays" my arse.

He's not talking about the old GNR. Closure means that we will stop doing something we've been doing for the past 9 years at least.

I think the start of new GN'R is closure of the old GN'R. Until CD is out, old GN'R is not completely done in my mind anyways. We need a new official release from the new band before the old one is done.

it feels like a very long beginning for the new band. The old band was history when Contraband came out.

i definitley feel what the original poster feels. i mean i've moved on in life but CD is very much in my mind everyday. i'm here checking shit out and hoping jarmo's got some cd news on the main page. closure for sure, i don't know what is going to happen after it comes out. i'd like to have a time machine and fast forward 20 yrs to check out what's going on :peace:

It's a little frightening that you think about it all the time.  I'm really looking forward to it...to listen to the music.  I like what I've heard so far, and am eager to hear more.  And I also like the prospect that they've worked on 30-some songs, so that hopefully the long wait for CD won't be followed up by a similar one for whatever comes next.

for me personally and i don't mean to sabotage the thread but the music is alot of it, i believe in axl rose and his intentions. at times i'm seriously pissed off but i'm so not into this decade of music and noticed how i have come back into the gnr drama. after 93' i went back and discovered the great 60's and 70's rock and when korn hit the scene i admit i liked all that stuff and manson and so forth. but there was about a 6-7 year gap when gnr were dormant and i didn't think about them much and what they were doing currently cause i had other bands i was into.  now there is nothing for me and i want this damn album so bad, axl's not ready yet so i do feel a little selfish, anyway that's all i have to say about that :nervous: :hihi: :beer:

Both, obviously.

The release of Chinese Democracy involves so many things.

The end of the longest recording process in history. The response of the general public. Will they like it? Will critics like it? Will there be hit singles? How will Axl and his new band be percieved? Will we finally know some of the events that has transpired all these years? Will Axl change as an effect of his work finally being exposed? Will the attitude of the band towards giving interviews and such alter?

All of those are factors I contemplate in regards to CD being released. But naturally, the music and finally hearing it will be the quintessential thing. How good is the album, really? Has it been worth it? Are there songs that put old GN'R to shame? Is this the best album ever made? Am I satisfied?

After all, the music is why we're here to begin with. That matters most, but other thing comes into effect to, though more minor.

I must say the thing I look forward to the most is that special moment when I come home from the record store with Guns N' Fuckin' Roses - Chinese Democracy in my hands. Open the container, putting the disc in the cd player, walking away, dim the lights, enter my stressless, study the cover, scrutinizing the tracklist, light up a cigarette, push play and enter the moment I've dreamed about for so many many years.

That is what I call special.

the album is a myth , it doesnt exist

 ? ?excellent post...i've been wondering the same thing myself the same thing for the past couple of days...

 ? ?the songs we have know (the majority) are probably going to be on the album, which leaves us with a familiar, but polished CD...the musical curiosity IS there, but by this point it's a bit odd to express what I think CD will bring.

 ? ?the main thing, musical satisfaction coming in second, IS the closure of seeing the new GNR come to full fruition on the global musical scale (properly that is, with an album, etc). and of course, there's the thought that this would steamroll a new beginning for the band to become mroe than a showcase for the album.

 ? ?but by this point a decade has passed, and unless things are going to change with the release (i.e. GNR acting like a band, interviews, none of this 'i'm under contract, i have no idea about this, that') I'm not expecting major developments.

 ? ?i'm as much in the dark about the future as all of us here...but as for CD, for me it's more about seeing come to completion and getting GNR out there in the spotlight again. releasing this album and having it be received as an equal to UYI or releasing it to minor fanfare and continuing with record releases is the same thing for me.
 ? ?it's the legacy that for me is by this point important...and the new music props it up so far...

This is absolutely a damn good topic.....and yes for me it is about closure.  Ever since 2002, I've just wanted this thing to come out.  I don't worry about enjoying the music, because I know I will absolutely love it.  From what we've heard I'm impressed.....and I have so much faith in Axl that what he's going to release is going to be truly amazing.  But as for it being the past few years, just closure as a fan.  If we get the album and nothing ever happens again, at least we'll have somewhat of a final chapter. 

i hope this has been addressed before and i also hope i'm just misreading the original post, but please don't put so much faith and belief in an album that your very happiness depends on it and your whole day is consumed by it.  again we're talking about a record not a religion or even philosophical view.

trust me this album will be awesome, but remember to breath.

Yeah that's a  :o pretty bad way to word it, whoever started this topic.


As a huge music fan, it's been #1 on my 'albums I can't wait to hear list' since I was 12 in 1996. Almost everything else has been #2 on down on that 'list' and I've bought like 450 CD's in the last 10 years or so.

Other than that...I have a great life, that's all CD is to me - a holy grail sort of album...that probably is never coming out  :peace:

Guns N' Roses and Axls new version of it has done far more for me than any religion and philosophical contemplation. To me, experiencing Axls brilliance is one of the pillars in life. This is what it's about I think to myself when another one of his strokes of magic has touched me to my soul. This is enjoyment, this is life.

Sure, there are more important things in life, but this project is definitely up there. It's beyond trivial matters and experiences.

awesome post, i agree. Axl's lyrics are just really special and unique and nothing compares.

I think both for me. In one way I want to just kick back and enjoy the music. But in another hand it will close a chapter in my life. It seems i've been waiting so long for this album and good or bad, just to have it in my hands would just mean so much. I sometimes imagine what it will feel like to finally have that cd in my hands after sooooo long. Its going to be a very sureal experience for me.? :smoking:

For someone like myself, it's definitely about the music. I only found out about the leaks and got reminded about this album about a month ago, when I started work at a new place. Granted the new songs were fucking orgasmic and the anticipation for the album started fucking crankin almost straight away, but still,  I haven't had the years and years of anticipation that so many of you have had.

For me, it's all about the music.  : ok:

Another thing that amazes me is that after all these years we're still somehow able to come up with fresh topics :rofl:

haha thats true  :hihi:

LOL, indeed, it doesn't happen often anymore - But this is a good one, for sure.

I will undoubtedly enjoy the music of this album (given what we've heard already), but the long wait and perception of the album has built it up in such a way that it has been assimilated into my life in such a way that it has become (in some part) part of my existence.  I'm sure listening to the album will finally provide some much needed closure, but the ride (and experiences thereof) was unforgettable.  The rumors, the leaks, the shows, to me it is beautiful.  In an odd sort of way I'll miss it, mainly because it was this anticipation that provided the common experience for us to come together and form a community on practically no new material.  Hopefully CD will be released soon, it's been a fun ride, and I hope the album will give us much closure. :peace:

Both closure and music, in my case.

For me it's definitely about the music, but i have built it up in my head over the past few years. After i began to hear some of the material i knew how much i'll like this album, and i began to imagine it being on heavy rotation for a period in my life and how that will be a good time. I can remember times in my life that i associate with a great album that came out but as i've gotten older these albums are fewer, and even new albums i love just don't have the same legs... so i've really blown it up in my mind as already one of my favorite albums, and thats strange, but also exciting because i haven't felt anything like that in a long time.

enjoying the music.....

First of all this is an excellent topic. There will be a tremendous feeling of closure when the holy grail of albums has made its way into my sound system and is blasting out axl's brilliant magnum opus. But really it will be about the pure satisfaction and endless enjoyment that record will bring for years on end. I had about a six month period in 2004 when contraband did not leave the cd player in my car. After hearing the leaks from CD this year I can barely even listen to that record now. So I can only imagine how long CD will have a place in that slot. I really hope that this record is very well recieved. I keep having visions about rollingstone giving it 5 stars and talking about how it was worth the wait. And keep thinking shortly after Axl will appear on the cover and do a great RS interview and give us all of the backstory about the making of the record, why it took so long, ect....I think that would be a fitting end to one of the greatest sagas in rock as well as the start of a truly awesome new begginning.

Chinesse Democracy means everything to me. not just an album that I can hear it over and over again. but also my future career, since I have similar voice like Axl (I can't sing another song besides GN'FR songs). my future life depends on it. If CD never comes out. maybe I'll be buried my dreams forever.
I remember how Guns in the late 80-early 90' invaded my country. everybody tryn to sing GN'R songs.dress like Axl and Slash.and that changes me till now. when everybody else here begin to forget about Guns N' Roses and even Rock music anymore.
sorry bout my english.

your life depends on chinese democracy, because you can sing like axl?  ???

There's a lot of sad things in this thread.

I'm looking forward to "I told you so!" and putting to rest one of the last parts of my teenage years.

Yes,and after CD comes out I can played new GN'R song with my band.and make money by that. since not everyone can sing like Axl. : ok:
 just kidding man :hihi:.

                  I want it for the music and the fact that Axl can finally prove the doubters wrong. That he waited so long for it to be a massive undertaking for a reason. I hope its as good as were all hoping. I'd hate to be let down but once it comes out I'll listen and be content as a G'n'R fan finally.

                     

I only want the album in hand so I can get laid when I cruise the neighborhood in my van with the panther painted on the side. Pumping Chinese Democracy out the window, I don't need to use my usual line of , " Hey foxes, check out the ride, shag and all..." Instead, the b#$ches will be jumpin' in the back of my van, like bunnies in springtime...Do you think they'll release it on 8 track?

i just realized my previous post here didnt answer the question.

I think it will a combination of the two. sure we will be sad in a way because getting what u want can be a dangerous thing, but im sure we'll all enjoy the music. im sure some people will inevitably be like OKAY, whens the next record coming out? and start the whole guessing game all over again, but i'll just be kicking back chilling to this new record that is going to be mindblowing! this new lineup is very talented and i want to them to finally be taken seriously and recognized as a force to be reckoned with.

also it will be nice to laugh in the faces of all my friends who dislike Axl and always bug me that it will never come out.

that is exactly what im doing lol  :)

One things for sure - unless this album is a true rock masterpiece it will be widely panned.

There's nothing more rock critics like to do than to bag on Axl Rose, so the release of "Chinese Democracy" is going to feel like Christmas day to some journalists...

Yeah most critics love to pick apart and dissect anything and everything that has to do with GNR.  So I'm sure if/when Chinese Democracy is released they'll have a field day.

Although I'd be willing to bet that at the end of the day, half of the critics who blast shit in music reviews end up with the cd in their stereo on on their iPod at the end of the day...  ::)