Here Today... Gone To Hell!

I dont know about anyone else here, but if GnR toured for the next 2 years and kept bringing in new songs besides the ones we have been hearing, I would be satisfied, its all about the music, no politics : ok:

Agreed.  The album would be great.  But what could be better than getting to see your favorite band in concert?  :smoking:   

no

I want CD. I will not be satisfied until I have it for about a month and still love it. If I am bored with it after a month, I will still be dissatisfied. However, I still love the demos so it is looking pretty good on that front.

yeah but, really what if GnR doesnt release CD for whatever reason, but they keep playing shows. People need to take a step back and say this shits really good. Didnt the Dead do it for so many years and they still were pretty successful

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i`m sick of all this shit. i want the album and no more speculation and bullshit.

i`va had enough of this crap allready.

Screw the shows, release the god damn album! ?

If you've been to a show you might think differently........

I still want to hear the album, but seeing them live is an experience.

What if they don't release CD, but they do a little mini tour something like GNR Presents Chinese Democracy, and play at small venues like Hammerstein, and only play CD songs?

That would suck, we would all get a soundboard recording, then when CD comes out we would all be very "bleh" about it. I want CD to be a Christmas Day with presents under the tree, not having opened them all on Christmas Eve.

live shows are cool but ....

gnr on tour with no album is a hell of a lot better than gnr not on tour with no album!

yes, but you also have to look at it this way the dead were more known for there live shows then their albums.the live shows were they made a large number of fans .

I wouldn't. 

I want to buy C(hinese)D(emocracy).? ::)

It:s time for the album
The longer the tour goes without an album the greater will be the "damage" for GNR.
By repeating 2002 Axl is fucking his reputation and credibility. But as we all know "there a still tuesdays left in 2006" :hihi:
That is turning into a fucking soap opera and i love it : ok:

i dont see why people get all worked up about the album.   We've known for years and years that this thing isn't coming out until Axl is ready for it to come out and no amount of bitching or ridiculous demands is going to change that.    The band is active and touring.   Lets show them our support.   I saw 3 of the best shows of my life this year.

No, the situation is shi?. One nostalgia tour is enough for anyone. The band are taking the piss now, cashing in on what the band used to be rather than trying to justify their own presence.

The setlist is also very shi$ in my opinion. I grew up with the illusions albums so I would much rather hear those than the fillers from AFD.

I've seen the comeback nostalgia tour twice now and won't go again.

It was put up or shut up time for the band in 2002. They should not be touring now with no plans to release the album.

I'm happy to have them back, and just at least have them touring, but....

It's time to shit or get off the pot with the album.  :-\

helf agree half disagree.
Yep I'd be happy enough but I also think the songs they made should reach as many people as possible.
The recordings should be released one day.
Axl might be thinking those are his own property or the bands but I think many of them when released in their best forms are to be achivements for all mankind.

I'm not waiting for an album. I want them to release as many great albums as possible.

i agree, i'm not waiting for chinese democracy to be earth shattering and the total defining moment of axl's exsistence, i want it to be great and mind blowing but at the same time i want it to merely be a step-up on the ladder is axl's career.  One can only guess what will happen after chinese democracy.

Now theres a concept....after Chinese Democracy

Amen.

Sorry but I want the CD, I saw them live and it was amazin' but after all these years waitin' a tour (tribute tour with a few new songs) is not enough for me

I just want the album, who cares about the tour. They have tour for years without this album and its still called the CD tour

After seeing the "Chinese Democracy (yeah right)" tour five times now I think I'd like to have the album now.  Not really looking forward to the 2008 "Chinese Democracy (really we mean it this time)" tour.

Without some sort of original material this band will be seen as nothing more than a nostalgia based cover band. That ultimately diminishes the legacy of Guns N' Roses, and it is really sad to see happen. I have seen them 4 times now, and as much as I love the shows I am not plopping down anymore money on tickets until they prove these tours are nothing more than a cash grab by actually releasing an album.

yeah right....
seeing them once every year really makes it worth it....
not in my book.
and I dont feel like downloading some bullshit bootlegs to hear the new songs.

The shows are great, but it's time to release the cd now. Otherwise, suck it up, get Slash and Duff back and do the nostalgia tour with the musicians that actually helped write the material. My opinion on it anyhow.

I couldn't disagree more than I do now.  I have seen them live, and I LOVED the show and LOVED the new songs but I want to be able to listen to the new songs at home.  And I want to be able to listen to a top quality sounding studio version of those songs.  Not leaked demos or cheap bad sound bootlegs.  They must release the album.  And if they don't I'll put them in the same category as Poison.  Poison can do a kick ass show but at this point they are a nostalgia act nothing more.  And GNR is becoming that unfortunately.

i agree that shit might happen, i don't think gnr are their yet though but if action isn't taken soon alot of credibility will be lost.

well i saw them 3 times this year.  once at the hammerstein and twice at the joint in vegas.   no i would not trade those 3 shows for the album in my hands.   

Holding the long-awaited album by your favorite band in your hands.

I'm going in December to night three of L.A.. If they aren't adding new songs by then, it'll be the last one I go to until the record's out. In fact, had they put the album out, I would have bought tickets to all three Gibson Amp shows and encouraged others to go. Who knows, maybe by the L.A. shows the record will be out and they'll be switching in all the other songs from that leaked setlist that we apparently can't discuss and I'll be sorry I doubted them.

Until then, once was great in August and I'll hope for the best for December. I paid to see Guns N' Roses, not 3 very talented six-figure Yngwie's chewing up half the show. Twice will be more than enough of that. They're great players and I'm sure they're nice guys, but yeah.

Lots of other people will be there enjoying it in my place, and that's good. I have my criticisms but I still think for what it is it's a great rock show experience and I wish Axl success.

HELL NO.

If you prefer a show over the album you definitely don't speak for me. What if Floyd only toured The Dark Side Of The Moon album and never released it? I don't think so...

The majority of us have been waiting on the album, not a tour.

I want an album as much as anyone.  I think getting Chinese Democracy out validates the band (as in, the new band members).  Once they've released something as GNR, then they truly become a part of GNR's history, and since they do a good job with old material and new, I'd like to see them get the credit they deserve.  I want to see everyone in that fucking arena jump  to their feet when the opening notes of "Better" are played, because it just blew away the radio competition, and made music GOOD again.  They deserve that kind of reception, and some of us give it to them each night, but until there's an album, the new songs will mostly get polite applause, but not much more.

If GNR were a small, local, fairly unknown band, the audience in their local clubs would be cheering like crazy when Axl jumps on that piano during The Blues.  But, old fans (mostly) aren't going to be grabbed by the balls by something they've heard once in concert.  I want the critics to be proven wrong.  I want the candy assed music industry that puts out bubblegum pop and emo junk to be proven wrong.  And, as much as I love 'em, I want the layers of hope for Axl's failure and/or complete lack of interest from former bandmates to be proven wrong. 

Oh, and I just want the fuckin' album, too.

us loyal and VERY patient fans of Axl and Guns'n'Roses need a CD. We need it. We want it. sooner than latter. If this album were sex we'd all be blue. just saying, we've been patient and loyal for many years we should be rewarded. :beer:

having CD would be better,without an album it gets kind of stupid touring if you're not really promoting something,not that I'm saying Axl is stupid for touring I'm happy about it  :smoking:

My thoughts exactly.  You have to remember that we aren't bon jovi fans, expect the unexpected, this is gnr.

GNR is edging closer to being nothing more than a nostalgia act on par with KISS at this point - I don't care about the band touring, because quite frankly I grew tired of AFD and subpar "fan favorites" like LALD a long time ago.[

GNR would actually improve their legacy by just disappearing if this record is not going to become a reality. It's time to put up or shut up, and when January 1st clicks over without CD, the press is going to pounce on the band and tear apart whatever credibility they have left.

It really sucks, because I'd like to see my once-favorite band actually do something that validates their existance beyond being the world's best GNR cover band.

I agree.  And if they don't deliver this year.  Not only will they become a nostalgia act like Kiss, Poison and so forth but they will be considered a cover band.  And this lineup deserves so much better.  But without an album they won't be fully considered GNR.  And it is sad because they are talented.  But I'm afraid that come Jan 1st GNR will zero credibility forever if CD ain't coming out.

A new album from this band?? ::)

Honor the band by getting their music to the masses.

Robin, Tommy, Richard, Dizzy, Chris,  Brain, Bucket, Thal and Frank are wonderful musicians. It would be nice to see a show then go home and pop their CD into the player and enjoy the experience again.

agreed!!!  i feel the same!

Well I'd rather have a new album to be honest. GnR touring is great but if the album isn't out soon and they're still touring in the future, it'll just feel like a nostalgia act. I'd like to hear the music that Axl so believes in yet Slash and Duff didn't. I wanna see if it was worth all the bullshit that has gone on. People might not like VR but at least they're touring their new material and are trying to move on from GnRs success in the past. That isn't a bash at Axl or the New GnR but it's just common sense.