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Title: Merck responds to Eagles Of Death Metal:
Post by: BurningHills on December 01, 2006, 04:14:54 AM
http://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=63092


GUNS N' ROSES' manager Merck Mercuriadis has responded to the claims by the EAGLES OF DEATH METAL leader Jesse "The Devil" Hughes that GN'R bassist Tommy Stinson threw down his bass in disgust after Axl Rose went off on the EAGLES after Hughes and Co. opened for GN'R at Cleveland's Quicken Loans Arena Friday night (Nov. 24). EAGLES OF DEATH METAL took the stage in Cleveland to open the first of what was supposed to be 15 North American dates on the GUNS N' ROSES tour, but exited the trek after just that one performance following an onstage rant by Rose, during which he nicknamed the band "The Pigeons of Shit Metal" before informing his audience that the gig would be the EAGLES' last on the tour.

"When [Rose] called us the 'Pigeons of Shit Metal', Tommy Stinson took his bass off, threw it down and went, 'Fuck you, that's it!' to Axl," Hughes told MTV.com. "And then Axl picked [Stinson's] bass up and threw it at [him]."

Mercuriadis disagreed with Hughes' account. "There is no truth to either claim [that Rose fired a crew member or that Stinson threw down his bass] as evidenced by the fact that our crew remains identical to when the tour started almost six weeks ago, and to say Axl threw a bass at Tommy is pure fiction," he told MTV.com. "The EAGLES OF DEATH METAL were asked to leave the tour not only because GUNS N' ROSES' audience hated them and tore them apart but because they could not handle the response. They were supposed to play a 60-minute set but left the stage after 42 minutes due to the hostile reception. The facts do not support the image they are trying to portray, which is why they are attempting to put this spin on it."

Read more at MTV.com.


Title: Re: Merck responds to Eagles Of Death Metal:
Post by: Vadin on December 01, 2006, 04:19:04 AM
what? Tommy threw his bass down?  :o...

nah.. we would have heard it..



Title: Re: Merck responds to Eagles Of Death Metal:
Post by: anythinggoes on December 01, 2006, 04:20:28 AM
Cool thanks for posting


Title: Re: Merck responds to Eagles Of Death Metal:
Post by: quarky on December 01, 2006, 04:24:55 AM
Did anyone at the show see Tommy throw it or walk off (or not walk off as the case may be)?


Title: Re: Merck responds to Eagles Of Death Metal:
Post by: John Galt on December 01, 2006, 04:28:48 AM
Did anyone at the show see Tommy throw it or walk off (or not walk off as the case may be)?

No one did on any of the reviews I have seen, I tried to put a post on here yesterday as this was reported by NME yesterday but it was deleted - Jarmo said it was B/S.

Good to see GnR camp move quickly to dispel this before it gathers to much momentum. ?Nice fact laden response I thought.


Title: Re: Merck responds to Eagles Of Death Metal:
Post by: Ax on December 01, 2006, 05:03:38 AM
I didn't believe for a second what this band said went on with Tommy and Axl. The reason is that people on these boards who do concert reviews mention almost every detail of the show, I don't think an event like Tommy throwing down his bass and then Axl throwing the bass at Tommy would go un-noticed by these hardcore fans.

I'm sure Axl still has quite a bit of pull in the music business, I hope he uses it to bury this band for spreading these shit rumors about gnr.


Title: Re: Merck responds to Eagles Of Death Metal:
Post by: Gordi on December 01, 2006, 05:06:50 AM
I haven't even heard the show... are there any videos or torrents of the eagles of death metal's or GNR's show from that night?


Title: Re: Merck responds to Eagles Of Death Metal:
Post by: fixintodie on December 01, 2006, 05:15:20 AM
I haven't even heard the show... are there any videos or torrents of the eagles of death metal's...show from that night?

By all accounts that would be a tragic waste of bandwidth.


Title: Re: Merck responds to Eagles Of Death Metal:
Post by: Slashead on December 01, 2006, 05:15:25 AM
The Eagles of Death Metal feud has also been reported by www.rollingstone.com
It seems that Bach was involved...


Title: Re: Merck responds to Eagles Of Death Metal:
Post by: tim_m on December 01, 2006, 06:06:56 AM
If tommy threw his bass down in disgust at axl and axl threw it at tommy someone surely who was at the show would've mentioned it. I smell complete bullshit here.


Title: Re: Merck responds to Eagles Of Death Metal:
Post by: Miggy on December 01, 2006, 06:07:38 AM
I think it's all been set up (between both camps) just to make musical headlines.   I mean, come on, don't you know Jesse Hughes?


Title: Re: Merck responds to Eagles Of Death Metal:
Post by: badobsession_r21 on December 01, 2006, 07:10:22 AM
Faith No More and Blind Melon got booed every night, and insulted the crowd every night when they opened for Guns, hell, even CKY and they tried to fight some fans during one show and were never asked to leave, so I doubt that played a part.

i cant believe that there is even one person that booed Faith no More. One of the greatest bands of all time.


Title: Re: Merck responds to Eagles Of Death Metal:
Post by: TAP on December 01, 2006, 07:23:32 AM

They were supposed to play a 60-minute set but left the stage after 42 minutes


They cut their set short.........outrageous.


Title: Re: Merck responds to Eagles Of Death Metal:
Post by: adamsv1999 on December 01, 2006, 07:57:06 AM
I was at the Cleveland show and I never saw Tommy throw his bass.  EODM are full of shit.

For me I didn't go into the arena until 9pm and Sebastien Bach finished up his set shortly after.  I was excited as I thought GN'R was next and then I'm suprised to see EODM.  I didn't join in the booing (I went to get more alcohol) but a lot of people were just anxious to see if Axl was going to show and they knew it might be an hour or two after the last of the  opening acts before GN'R took the stage so I don't think EODM had much of a chance to impress the crowd.  They really should have played before Bach as well since Bach is the bigger name and gets the crowd going.


Title: Re: Merck responds to Eagles Of Death Metal:
Post by: michaelvincent on December 01, 2006, 08:05:17 AM
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i cant believe that there is even one person that booed Faith no More. One of the greatest bands of all time.

Believe it. Patton even made it a point to talk shit about Axl and GnR onstage and somehow they got to stick around that tour.


Title: Re: Merck responds to Eagles Of Death Metal:
Post by: Dr. Blutarsky on December 01, 2006, 08:11:40 AM
We got a press release, usually we dont get one. Too many whiners.


Title: Re: Merck responds to Eagles Of Death Metal:
Post by: Saboteur on December 01, 2006, 08:22:36 AM
I was at the Cleveland show and I never saw Tommy throw his bass.? EODM are full of shit.

For me I didn't go into the arena until 9pm and Sebastien Bach finished up his set shortly after.? I was excited as I thought GN'R was next and then I'm suprised to see EODM.? I didn't join in the booing (I went to get more alcohol) but a lot of people were just anxious to see if Axl was going to show and they knew it might be an hour or two after the last of the? opening acts before GN'R took the stage so I don't think EODM had much of a chance to impress the crowd.? They really should have played before Bach as well since Bach is the bigger name and gets the crowd going.

maybe you didn't saw Tommy throw his bass, because you were to drunk (too much alcohol) :rofl:


Title: Re: Merck responds to Eagles Of Death Metal:
Post by: cineater on December 01, 2006, 10:12:15 AM
Every media source that published that band's story owes GNR an apology for printing crap that could have been easily researched with the media coverage that was at that show.  Merck you should have slammed the media along with that band.  Someone needs to start the fight with the media on this type of shit, might as well be GNR.


Title: Re: Merck responds to Eagles Of Death Metal:
Post by: Gordi on December 01, 2006, 10:18:05 AM
I haven't even heard the show... are there any videos or torrents of the eagles of death metal's...show from that night?

By all accounts that would be a tragic waste of bandwidth.

Just wanted to see/hear for myself really, was it that bad?


Title: Re: Merck responds to Eagles Of Death Metal:
Post by: DeN on December 01, 2006, 10:27:01 AM
"I think he's just jealous of my mustache," Hughes said.

 :hihi:


Title: Re: Merck responds to Eagles Of Death Metal:
Post by: jarmo on December 01, 2006, 10:46:31 AM
I deleted selected posts that had absolutely nothing to do with the topic. They were just the same old people whining about something completely different.

These people seem to think they have the right to turn every thread into attacks on the band. It's their "right" to always take the other side and defend whoever writes shit about the band.


If you have this need to attack the band all the time, go to Metal Sludge or wherever the fuck you came from in the first place.



/jarmo


Title: Re: Merck responds to Eagles Of Death Metal:
Post by: slunksoma on December 01, 2006, 11:00:48 AM
I find it hard to believe that this Hughes character would fabricate a story about band infighting that could be so easily rebuked by all in attendance.
How many fan's account have gone up on NME? None, Hughes can say what he wants to get the publicity regardless how absurd his statement is. What matters to him is that every time for the next month or so that GnR are mentioned, EoDM will more than likely be mentioned also. Can't buy that sort of publicity.


Title: Re: Merck responds to Eagles Of Death Metal:
Post by: Axlfreek on December 01, 2006, 11:16:01 AM
http://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=63092


GUNS N' ROSES' manager Merck Mercuriadis has responded to the claims by the EAGLES OF DEATH METAL leader Jesse "The Devil" Hughes that GN'R bassist Tommy Stinson threw down his bass in disgust after Axl Rose went off on the EAGLES after Hughes and Co. opened for GN'R at Cleveland's Quicken Loans Arena Friday night (Nov. 24). EAGLES OF DEATH METAL took the stage in Cleveland to open the first of what was supposed to be 15 North American dates on the GUNS N' ROSES tour, but exited the trek after just that one performance following an onstage rant by Rose, during which he nicknamed the band "The Pigeons of Shit Metal" before informing his audience that the gig would be the EAGLES' last on the tour.

"When [Rose] called us the 'Pigeons of Shit Metal', Tommy Stinson took his bass off, threw it down and went, 'Fuck you, that's it!' to Axl," Hughes told MTV.com. "And then Axl picked [Stinson's] bass up and threw it at [him]."

Mercuriadis disagreed with Hughes' account. "There is no truth to either claim [that Rose fired a crew member or that Stinson threw down his bass] as evidenced by the fact that our crew remains identical to when the tour started almost six weeks ago, and to say Axl threw a bass at Tommy is pure fiction," he told MTV.com. "The EAGLES OF DEATH METAL were asked to leave the tour not only because GUNS N' ROSES' audience hated them and tore them apart but because they could not handle the response. They were supposed to play a 60-minute set but left the stage after 42 minutes due to the hostile reception. The facts do not support the image they are trying to portray, which is why they are attempting to put this spin on it."

Read more at MTV.com.


I didn't see any of that happen. lol.


Title: Re: Merck responds to Eagles Of Death Metal:
Post by: Cows N' Roses on December 01, 2006, 11:18:45 AM
Pigeons of shit metal??

:rofl:

I would have loved to hear that but I don't believe any of this happened.
Their feelings were hurt and they wanna walk away heads high.
Whenever shit happens, Axl's always the black sheep, why should it be any different this time?
I say, get in the line to.. get in the ring.



Title: Re: Merck responds to Eagles Of Death Metal:
Post by: charlesfosterkane on December 01, 2006, 11:23:52 AM
I find it hard to believe that this Hughes character would fabricate a story about band infighting that could be so easily rebuked by all in attendance.
How many fan's account have gone up on NME? None, Hughes can say what he wants to get the publicity regardless how absurd his statement is. What matters to him is that every time for the next month or so that GnR are mentioned, EoDM will more than likely be mentioned also. Can't buy that sort of publicity.
that dave grohl was mentioned in the article is pertinent since nirvana got half their cred ripping on axl. axl's defenseless against these attacks. when he fights them he's called unhinged and when doesn't fight back people heap it on. part of the problem is the people attacking him are the same people who attack jack white or other rock types who go against the norm. the media and people like dave grohl play to the masses and the mediocre types who get freaked out by the slightest hint of someone doing something they can construe as odd. there's a long line of folks like axl from james joyce to orson welles who did things differently and took the heat for it.


Title: Re: Merck responds to Eagles Of Death Metal:
Post by: ppbebe on December 01, 2006, 12:02:13 PM
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If you have this need to attack the band all the time, go to Metal Sludge or wherever the fuck you came from in the first place.

Or go back to their fav eodm board.  :yes:
Gosh aren't they Magpies of crap?

While booing at supporting acts is nothing cool,
making up a bunch of crap out of revenge is worse.

It's not even whether you believe merick or not. It's too obvious that the EODM person is full of shit.
There're so many eye witnesses in here and other fan forums that disproved him before he made his claims.

The facts are
1) No report said EODM 1 the crowd.
2) No one at the show saw the alleged stage fight but EODM.

Like making a paradise city out of few claps, they like to make mountains out of molehills with all kinds of frills and embellishments, it seems. Or are they having hallucination?

And more,
The Eagles of Death Metal feud has also been reported by www.rollingstone.com
It seems that Bach was involved...

Sounds like the magpies were hell rude to other performers.


Title: Re: Merck responds to Eagles Of Death Metal:
Post by: hoolign10 on December 01, 2006, 12:15:33 PM
I was on the floor about 5 rows back.  Axl called them the pigeons of shit metal, that's true but none of that shit with Tommy happened.


Title: Re: Merck responds to Eagles Of Death Metal:
Post by: Edward Rose on December 01, 2006, 01:02:10 PM
Every media source that published that band's story owes GNR an apology for printing crap that could have been easily researched with the media coverage that was at that show.  Merck you should have slammed the media along with that band.  Someone needs to start the fight with the media on this type of shit, might as well be GNR.

I've been trying to tell you guys the media is evil.  :hihi:

On a different note; Am I the only one wondering what Merck is talking about concerning a fired crew member? That wasn't in the EODM lying article yesterday... unless it steamrolled on the internet and more lies got added to it.

And my point yesterday in the deleted thread was, "If this is true, why didn't EODM report this (Tommy) BEFORE their little play on words statement?" The logic was as simple as that.  : ok:


Title: Re: Merck responds to Eagles Of Death Metal:
Post by: Bandita on December 01, 2006, 01:06:27 PM
Every media source that published that band's story owes GNR an apology for printing crap that could have been easily researched with the media coverage that was at that show.? Merck you should have slammed the media along with that band.? Someone needs to start the fight with the media on this type of shit, might as well be GNR.

I've been trying to tell you guys the media is evil.? :hihi:

On a different note; Am I the only one wondering what Merck is talking about concerning a fired crew member? That wasn't in the EODM lying article yesterday... unless it steamrolled on the internet and more lies got added to it.

And my point yesterday in the deleted thread was, "If this is true, why didn't EODM report this (Tommy) BEFORE their little play on words statement?" The logic was as simple as that.? : ok:

It was in one of the articles I read where the EODM were claiming Axl lashed out at them because he was in a bad mood and was lashing out at the crew as well.? That is what Merck is responding to.? What BS, I am so sick of these Pigeons riding off this for publicity.


Title: Re: Merck responds to Eagles Of Death Metal:
Post by: FortusGNR21 on December 01, 2006, 01:08:30 PM
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that dave grohl was mentioned in the article is pertinent since nirvana got half their cred ripping on axl. axl's defenseless against these attacks. when he fights them he's called unhinged and when doesn't fight back people heap it on. part of the problem is the people attacking him are the same people who attack jack white or other rock types who go against the norm. the media and people like dave grohl play to the masses and the mediocre types who get freaked out by the slightest hint of someone doing something they can construe as odd. there's a long line of folks like axl from james joyce to orson welles who did things differently and took the heat for it.
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I completely agree dude! Axl takes the rap for daring to be different and somewhat interesting, he'll never be a media darling because he doesn't pander to them as other rock stars tend to. Rock n Roll and conformity do NOT go hand in hand IMO!


Title: Re: Merck responds to Eagles Of Death Metal:
Post by: jarmo on December 01, 2006, 01:14:10 PM
I deleted selected posts that had absolutely nothing to do with the topic. They were just the same old people whining about something completely different.

These people seem to think they have the right to turn every thread into attacks on the band. It's their "right" to always take the other side and defend whoever writes shit about the band.


If you have this need to attack the band all the time, go to Metal Sludge or wherever the fuck you came from in the first place.



/jarmo



Seems like some people can't read or don't want to pay attention....

So, stop wondering where the fuck your posts went, and read the above.




/jarmo


Title: Re: Merck responds to Eagles Of Death Metal:
Post by: Edward Rose on December 01, 2006, 01:16:06 PM

I've said it before, and I'll say it again...
What makes you think this whole incident is good for EODM?
Do you actually believe that they'll get higher sales because of this?!
Who would want to buy any of their albums after Axl had called them Pigeons of Shit metal?!!
They probably want it to end more than GNR does.


I think everyone is missing the culprit here. The only people who benefited from the media LIES was the media. (a certain web site)  :hihi:


Title: Re: Merck responds to Eagles Of Death Metal:
Post by: Edward Rose on December 01, 2006, 01:24:58 PM

It was in one of the articles I read where the EODM were claiming Axl lashed out at them because he was in a bad mood and was lashing out at the crew as well.  That is what Merck is responding to.  What BS, I am so sick of these Pigeons riding off this for publicity.

Thanks Bandita. I'm recalling it now.  ;D