Here Today... Gone To Hell!

Baz off 15 minutes ago....updates from our friend sexkitten...she said baz had on black outfit and metal mike was great..gnr next...stay tuned.....

1. lights down (approx 11:30pm)
2. jungle
3. ISE
4. Brownstone
5. LALD
6. Finck Solo
7. Sweet Child
8. Better
9. Heaven's Door
10. YCBM
11. Dizzy Piano Solo
12. The Blues
13. IRS
14. Fortus Solo
15. OTGM
16. November Rain
17. Ron Solo, including Don't Cry
18. My Michelle (w/ Baz)
19. Patience
20. Nightrain
21. Chinese Democracy
22. Madagascar
23. Paradise City

Awesome man - thanks!  : ok:

Yeah, kudo's, props and whatever else!  ;D

Can we assume it's okay to post here if the firsts message is being updated?  :-\

Considering there's no discussion thread(i believe) i think its fine to post here.

I am amazed that people get excited for these threads....

It made sense the first few times, but since the band has done about 50 shows this year  - gettin' kinda pointless. Not that I don't appreciate people taking the time to do it, but really - I'd rather just enjoy the show.

I just think it's cool. But that's because I'm 36. And at my first concert there were only like, 10 people in the crowd with cell phones. And the phones back then looked like a big shoe.

I m glad people update


U never know when Axl may let a nugget of info about the album slip.

With our luck he will do that one night we have no updaters.

yeah

If no one hears it, did it really happen? :hihi: :hihi: :hihi: :hihi:

Are you saying Axl is going to talk album at the Ames show?? :P

thx in advance for the updates

wouldn't that be funny though if he did though.

thanks for the updates...

gotta love sex kitten!

just back too..

suicide girls are an absolute joke, no need to EVER sit through that shit in anyone's life, none of them is even decent looking!

Bach screams alot and has lots of emotion, but besides that PASS..

As for G N R, first 4 songs are as powerful as any band on the planet, after that...

The solo's KILLED any momemtun they had going...1/3 of the crowd was gone BEFORE the encore...

What else, Axl had ZERO interaction with the crowd!

Other than that, great show!

Wow, sounds like a terrible crowd for the most part. No wonder there was no interaction. People leaving because of solos killing the mood? Their loss.

crowd was loud and into it..but i can tell you that starting a show after 11:30 PM on a Monday night kills it for even someone like me who LOVES this band, i was tired as hell by the end, and most people there aren't as die hard as me..

I can understand that.

I just got Back and the show was totally magical! I had the good fortune to move up to Row A where I had lots of room to dance and jump around and almost break my neck standing on a chair trying to get Axl to notice me!!! My dream of hearing BETTER and MADAGASCAR came true!!!!!!!Beta looked beautiful dancing on the side of the stage. Her hair is the color of moonlight. Can't wait to see them one last time this year in Milwaukee on Wednesday!

I was a little tired too, but I still had a great time. I met a guy on the way out who had attended the same Barbara Streisanc concert as me, and we joked that we were home and in bed after her concert before Axl hits the stage! He asked me who i liked better and I said AXL OFCOURSE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I still think that Axl has the best butt of any rockstar!

Just got back as well.

Showed up just in time for the Suicide Girls....they were pretty hot but I would have had a band play. Oh well  :D

Bach:  Surprised the hell out of me.  I've read a lot about his energy...but this was just fucking awesome.  He was so pumped and showed a ton of love for Chicago, making numerous comments about getting a start at the Rosemont Horizon.  Great performance!

GNR:  I'm not sure where everyone else was located, but the crowd around me was on their feet for the whole show; yelling, cheering, and just rockin' the fuck out. 
This did start to die down after Robin's solo and then it seemed that most of the crowd was confused when they heard "Better"; however, it got a pretty good applause afterwards.  Something was fucked up with the sound where Robin plays the intro, and subsequently every time he played that riff thereafter in the song. 
Perhaps they thought it was too harsh of a tone, I'm really not sure.

Shortly thereafter I noticed someone in GA holding up a large sign that read "AXL.... PLAY TWAT", which was then confiscated by security.

The vocal mix was Dr. Jeckyl and Mr Hyde throughout the night.  During the heavy breakdown of "Better" Axl sounded absolutely fan-fucking-tastic but then his voice would suddenly blend in with the music only to pop back out several minutes later.  This was what happened throughout the night, crystal clear one second, WTF the next.

During part of November Rain it sounded like something was wrong with Axl's voice, like he's battling a nasty cold or something...but it started to clear up throughout the song.

The high note of the show for me was "The Blues", Axl and the band sounded spot-on...and the vocal mix was kept at a good level throughout.  Those "whoooooa oh ohhh ohh ohhhhhhhh" sent chills down my spine...and it's been quite a while since that's happened at a concert for me.

Something I think you guys will get a kick out of happened when Baz came out to sing "My Michelle".  The conversation is (loosely) as follows:

Axl: Nice Shirt
Baz (wearing an EODM shirt):  Thanks....The Pigeons of Shit Metal
::laughter::
Axl: Yeah....the Cockatiels of Crapola


Anyways, I had a blast at the concert.  Even though he didn't stop to speak to the crowd a single time during the main concert, after PC the whole band took center staged and bowed many times.  Axl then said something along the lines of "I've been reading that some people don't think my thank-you's are sincere....well, this is.  Thank you all soo much for being here. Thank you, Chicago." He clearly thanked us from the bottom of his heart with a big smile on his face  :)

In summary, though the sound throughout the concert was hit or miss, Guns N' Roses rocked so hard that they turned my brain to shit.

Thank you.


*edited because accidentally put in 'apologies' instead of 'thank-you's' at the end

I thought the end of MSG was Axl at his most sincere.

I really wish he could then tell us the news we are dying to hear.

This is my opinion, if you don't like it, feel free to expres your opinions in a CIVILIZED manner, or else don't bother...just go to hell


So with anticipation i was awaiting to see my favorite band of my short 19 year old life...I had Floor tickets, and I was only 1 or two people from the front, which was surprisingly close to the stage, only about 4 feet...needless to say I was close.

I mention that this might be somewhat biased, as I went into it htinking that htis was gonna be the greatest thing I had seen...which not only reached my expectations, but surpassed it. Whether it is that i just did not notice the bad, I don't care...I enjoyed the hell outta the show and simply wish to express my feelings to all who coulnt make it.

So it was a hard wait before the concert started. Parking opened at 6pm, and I stood inline for about an hour. My back and legs bothered my a little bit but nothing to complain about specially since I knew that soon i'de be able to see the greatest band around. At about 7 we finally were allowed in, after getting my wristband me and the two people i was with made our way to the front, where we were amazed at how close it was. While waiitng for another hour, my back and legs finally started to bother me. As I started to try to bend my knees..it began to hurt but I knew that soon I would forget about all this.

First band was decent. The name escapes me, as it was only mentioned one or two times and I have never heard/seen them. After about 30 mins, and after the set was changed, the suicide girls came on. Now let me tell you, this was a great idea to have them by whoever scheduals the bands. Hot chicks dancing on stage rubbing syrup and splashing water on each other...count me on. Not to mention that the songs playing in the background were pretty nice...it helped us, at the very least, to pass another 30 mins or so before GnR.

Finally, sebastian came on. Now, I am not one that knows anything about skyd row or sebastian bach, except that he and axl are friends and that he was in that show superband or whatever. I did not know any of the songs, however i thought he did a real good job. I enjoyed his performance and the only reason why I wanted them to get off was because I wanted to see GnR.

Finally, my back and legs were aching. I had not hard anything to drink for hours, as I did not want to have to go to the bathroom and loose my spot, and so I began to grow thirsty and very hot. As the set changed, people around me were only hoping that they were going to play and that they were there. This part I don't get. Yes, GnR has had a reputation of canceling shows ,but havnt they only canceled two this tour? INCLUDING europe? And werent those both canceled before a note was played? Oh well I also hoped they would show up.

As the set was changed my anticipation grew. We began to see guitars, and most importantly, the infamous red mike and stand that axl uses. Finally, after only about 30 minutes or so, the lights dim and the whole place EXPLODED!

As they held the notes for welcome to the jungle, I felt we were being teased, making us wait a couple of seconds further was torture, but finally those sweet sweet words asking if we knew where we were came through the darkness...and seconds later...axl and company were finally there in front of me. Needless to say the whole place exploded and everyone began to jump with excitement and began to sing. Do not ask me the set list hoewver, as I forget what was played, except I can tell you that there were no surprises...only new songs that were played were Better, The blues, IRS, Maddy, and Chinese Democracy.

The show went off withought a single hitch. THere was no messing with the sound guy, everything sounding exacly as it should. Axl and company had energy, and just as you thought you coulnt keep going, their energy came to ya and helped you yell out the next words and jump to the tune.  I fount it funny but not surprising how many of the people there do not know the new(er) songs. Seemed at times that only me and my friend were singing the words to better, maddy, chinese dem, the blues or IRS. Also sometimes it was only us that cheered when they first cmae on, as many did not realize what song it was. With that said, EVERYONE around me seemed to be enjoying the hell outta these songs, as great as they are, withought knowing the lyrics.

There is only one complaint that I can say I had with the band and axl himself...and that was that he did not talk to thecrowd as much as he usually does. I guess that is good thou, because there were no rants or anything negative coming out of his mouth. Sound was exact, no one was saying shit to him, and no one threw stupid shit at them. It was exacly as Axl would have planed it out. They went out there, they rocked the hell outta the songs and the people, and enjoyed themselves, and it frikin rocked.

I gotta say that the duo with Sebastion on My michelle is simply amazing. Althou having heard it before throu the net (rock in rio and other webcasts), it is something different being there. These two guys are freinds, and they transmit that onstage, and it absoulutley takes the song to a different level. Extremely happy with it. A funny comment that me and my friend foutn (not many people got it) was when sebastian came out for my michelle he was wearing a GnR shirt. When Axl told him it was a nice shirt, he said thanks, and then axl said something ot the effect of "I thought u were wearing a pidgeons of shit shirt" and sebastion said "I coulnt find one". It was something like that..but i fount it funny how they were still bagging on that band.

The final moments were amazing. Closing with Chi. Dem., Maddy and Paradise city for the encore brought a new wave of energy into the arena where everyone started to rock out, specially for PC. Axl, as usual, threw out his whistle that he uses in PC and after the red mike, which about 30 people went after, and I am sure someone got punched and/or stomped on. Lucky asshole whoever ended with it however, and hopefully we wont see it on EBay.After the bow of the band members, axl thanked the crows and said how great we had been. Whether or not he does it everywhere, I think it had a slight bit of more meaning tonight as ther were absolutley no disturbances.

The only thing I can find negative about the even in general were the stupid guys who either got totally wasted BEFORE the concert and expected to stay, or the ones who thought they could stroll in at the time GnR played and push their way to the front. Even before anything started, there was a guy near me who was with his girlfriend who waws totally wasted. Almost falling at times, he was finally sent for some air by the security, only to discover moment s later that he had peed on himself and now there was a big stain of piss. Thankfully someone came with a mop and cleaned it up. However, the idiot tried to come to the front after about 30 minutes again, where he was finally kicked out and his wristband got ripped up. Why even get wasted before a concert? How can you enjoy it when you are so wasted you pee on yourself?

Finally, to the people who think they can push their way to the front...dont be assholes. If you want to be at the front, come in early and suffer with the rest..otherwise stay in the back. A few people tried to get up front...trying to say all kinds of shit to be let through...and (one specially) getting elbowed everywhere. Thankfully security took care fo them quick and sent them to the back.

It was an amazing show, and well worth the pain that I had to go through. To those who will come on here saying GnR is nothign without slash...well let me tell you this. The current members may not be as good as slash...but combined...they can sure as hell rock the hell out of the songs that make them unforgetable. The solo's were excelent, and now after attending, i see why they are necessary. Not only does it help the band...but we actually need them to catch our breath and build up energy for the next songs. After the first back to back 4 or 5 songs, I was worn out. Thankfully, a solo came which was both enjoyable and rejuvinating.

And finally to those who may say that axl's voice is not the same and it does not sound good, to you I have this to tell ya. First, it is only natural. After all, we cannot expect athletes to stay at the same level as they get older after they have reached their peak. Their bodies can simply not handle it. It is the same with someone like axl, his body can not simply make those high high notes at will over and over. Having said that, he still sounds fucking amazing and has reworked some of the songs to a way in which his current voice is better suited. And whether or not he soudns worse now, who the hell cares...hes got toushands of fands in the arenas singing their hearts out helping axl, lending him their voice to make a fantastic show.

It is not the same until you see them live...and it has been the greatest thing I have seen in my life, wehtehr or not Chi. Dem. comes out this year or ever, they are still #1 in my book.

Great review!! Good to read a positive one after some negative postings. Rather strange that the sounds keeps on bugging this band and people have different opinions about it.
I saw them in Holland this year and only comment on the sound was it was a bit too soft. Never had any problems hearing Axl and I stood at the back of the crowd.

So ROCK On!   :peace:

What the fuck is wrong with everyone that gets a floor ticket? Getting to the front is part of the pit. The last few reviews I have read have alot of complaints about the pit area. Have you not been in a mosh before? I get fucked up in nearly every pit im in, and im a big bloke. I dont look for it or agrevate it, it just happens. When I was 16 I saw Pantera, and a girl behind me had really long, wet braids. She whipped the fuck outta my back with those thigs. Then 3 years ago I saw Metallica, when it started I was about 3 metres from Het. I got absoultely fucked up from the few thousand kids behind me trying to get to the front. It sucked but I delt with it and it was an awesome night.

Stop complaining and have a great time.


 :peace:

Wow...lots of complaining after what I felt was a fantastic show. 

1.) If you thought the sound was bad, you have no idea how good you had it.  I saw the Crue last February, and they played so fucking loudly, that you couldn't distinguish anything.  This was MUCH better than that.  There were times where it was tough to hear Axl.  But, on a lot of their old stuff it didn't matter because people were singing along and on the new stuff, it was all pretty clear.  I enjoyed comparing, in my mind, tonight's "Madagascar" with the one from VMA 2002...SOOOO much better!

2.) No crowd interaction?  If you mean that there wasn't a rant because no one in the front was acting enough like a jackass to warrant it, then thank God!  IMO, a show has energy or it doesn't, and I'm not paying to chit-chat w/ Axl, and once they hit the stage at midnight, gettin' down to business is important. 

3.) I do agree that the chunk from Dizzy's piano solo through the Fortus solo hurt crowd energy.  I post on boards, so obviously I'm aware of and generally like the new GNR and their new material...but four solos/new songs in a row wasn't a good idea for MOST fans, which is a shame, because I really enjoyed this part of the show.  Dizzy can really tickle the ivories, and IRS came off really well, I thought.

4.) Baz was better than I expected, though he went a touch long. 

"Cockatiels of Crapola"  :rofl: Damn that's good stuff!

great review

Sounds like a pretty good night to me. ;)

Glad you had fun in Chicago, MG.

I've seen GNR in the early 90's, 2002, and recently in Detroit, good old days are gone blah blah blah, I like GNR with Slash and like GNR now.....  Things change, a bunch of people have to stop pissing and moaning about how things aren't just the same.  Stop sounding like a 30 year old who is still bitching that his parents got divorced back when he was 12 and it's just not fair!!!  I don't post often, and yes I guess in your eyes I?m a noob.... sorry I guess I wouldn?t' be a noob if I posted 100000 times in threads like, did you like axl's hair thread or what was your first GNR tune you jerked off to, but never the less life is too short and be thankful for what we have.  A TOURING BAND THAT WE LIKE and for where's the CD; I want it as much as anyone, we just have to ride it out and see?..

The show was great but today's announcement about his sickness makes a lot of sense. He was spot on vocally but you could tell he wasn't right. I do think anyone or a combo of three things would've made this an amazing show
-The album was out already. Face it 80% of the crowd thought they were going to see Slash and have never heard of "Better"
-Axl interacted with the crowd more. At one point after the fourth or fifth song he said in a low voice "hello boys and girls" and the place exploded. Never said a thing after that with the exception of introducing Baz.
-Stopped the show at midnight to say "it's Tues Nov 28 - Chinese Democracy is for sale"

I had a great time. Yes it was late and there was a lot of yawning going around (and some sleeping) but heck we saw GN'R.

Lastly - Frank f'n rocked! The dude kept energy and his contributions to the solos helped to keep them from killing too much energy (they did kill it folks - that's a fact).

Glad you enjoyed your show man.   :beer:  I too saw them last week and it was better than I expected. 

I totally agree with you, the show was great! I have seen Guns a bunch of times in the past 20 years and I thought they were spot on last night. Axl sounded great and that was being sick with an ear infection and sore throat, amazing.

Stopped the show at midnight to say "it's Tues Nov 28 - Chinese Democracy is for sale.

Did he really say this SAVEDSOL?

No.


Yet people wonder why we delete bullshit posts....  ::)


/jarmo

Amen

I see your point jarmo, but if anyone really believes crap like that, they've got more to deal with than being a misguided GNR fan.

Nothing wrong with the post, just people don't bother/aren't bright enough to read posts properly.  He clearly says;


before;

thanks for the great review....wish i coulda been there!!!!

Nice review, thanks for taking the time.

I forgot to mention that I thought the sound was near perfect tonight!

Awesome reviews, guys! Thanx for that!! I'm quite jealous that I couldn't be there as well... however... are there any pics of the show available?

i went to the show, was really fun for first half hour of the concert especially.  took a couple friends with me and we all we trying not to sleep thru the like 3 or 4 solos.  i guess they turned down axl because he was sick because we could barely hear him thru much of the show and he's the only reason we drove up. when we did hear him tho we got happy :)

it was pretty much the same show we saw in vegas and chicago a couple years back but no buckethead/nunchucks and  maybe a couple bootlegs none of my friends knew, i just wish they'd turn axl up.  thought it was a good show overall, better than other concerts i've seen recently, but only because i love the gnr songs bettter than most bands

cant wait for a new album and a new tour to see, love gnr^^

Had a good time at the show last night, although it did seem like during certain songs Axl was almost completely drowned out by the guitars. 

why aren't Robin and Richard playing Beautiful anymore? ???

great review,was arena full??

I literally just walked in the door from coming home. This show kicked some serious ass. I couldn't hear Axl too well during "Better", but other than that it sounded good to me.

The first band, Moderndayzero, I'd just like to know how the fuck they get these kick ass gigs. I've seen them open for Velvet Revolver, Buckcherry, a festival called Pointfest, and now GNR.

Sebastian rocked, and played atleast like 14 songs. He refused to refer to the place as Allstate Arena. He said Allstate insurance has nothing to do with the history of the Rosemont Horizon, and said anyone there from Allstate insurance could suck his dick. When he came out for "My Michelle" he was sporting a GNR shirt, Axl said "nice shirt" to which Baz replied "I couldn't find a pigeons of shit metal shirt", the Axl called them the "Cockatiels of crapola"- pretty funny.

I noticed alot of people were not happy at all about the amount of solos. I also noticed that alot of people started to leave towards the last few songs. I enjoyed the solos, but I do see how they kind of slow down the momentum.



I'll probably get seats next time because i've found that i no longer have much tolerance for assholes down on the floor.

Yeah, I'd never heard of the opening band, but they were pretty good, IMO.  Any time a song is introduced as "here's one about my ex-girlfriend, who fucked the guitar player, over there," you know they're probably not gonna play anything too "pop." 

On another random note, I wanted to say that Frank Ferrer was great!   

It's not about getting pushed around on the floor from people moshing/dancing.  I was about 10 ft. off the center stage. got there around 7:30 and stood for 4 hours waiting for GnR to go on.   What is annoying is the drunk asses that show up to the show at an hour before GnR start and push there way to the front like it is their right to do so.  Me and my friends got into a few altercations from drunk asses trying to cut right in front of us.  We held our ground until my sister almost got smashed by some fat dumbass trying to make his way up at the last minute and we just went to the back of the pit.  If you want to be up front, pay your dues standing like the rest us.  If they were true diehards, they would have gotten there early. 

a few things quickly....

Anyone who says the crowd was lame or anything like that ....is FUCKING INSANE. That place was jacked from get to gat, even as some filed out late...the remainding crowd was loud as fuck, the new songs got cheers afterwards, not much response during.

Axl sounded the best I ever heard him out of 4 shows(Joint 01,Chi 02, NY 06 also) I was shcoked to hear he was sick

The Band was "on" like a mofo...but nobody lays down solos like Slash. The new trio just aint Slash, they are great, but not Slash

The Solos need to go. The only enjoyable one was While My Guitar Gently Weeps by Dizzy. I like the little jams in between piano exhanges and whenever there is a moment of downtime, but the 3-5 min solo spots just plain suck

At the end Axl said how great Chicago was to them and hopes to see us soon

I also liked Bach say that he is tired of hearing whining about having to be up for work..fuck work, there hear to party. Very True!

Well, this was my 8th gnr show of 2006 and it was nothing short of spectacular! Each show has been a different experience, but this one was great because I got to go with 2 great friends from college, the same girls I use to road trip with back in the day to see gnr. ?

I was literally in Chicago for 21 hours and it was a trip I won't forget.

Got to the pre-party at 6:30 and by 6:35 did my first jaiger-bomb! ?Off to a great start! ?:peace: We went to the arena grabbed beer and got to our seats about 10 minutes before Baz started (double fisted, of course)! ?The arena holds 16,500 and almost every seat was filled before Baz hit the stage! ?Great crowd! ?When Baz started cranking out "Slave To The Grind," the place went insane for him. ?I have to say that my favorite thing about Baz is that he full-on head bangs with that long mane in his full fucking glory! ?And there was Crazy Cheryl and I, like Beavis and Butthead, following our fearless leader, Baz, headbanging right along with him with a beer in one hand and metal sign on the other! This continued until he ended just after 11. Love Baz and love Metal Mike!

Then....the lights go down and you hear those dark snarls teasing us over and over again!!!! ?Then the bigger tease...beginning guitar riff...it starts and stops and starts and stops. ?The foreplay build-up was driving everyone to insanity! The light panned the crowd and all I saw was a sea of metal hands! Then finally the opening guiar riff starts, and to borrow a line from a fellow board member, THE PLACE GOES FUCKING MENTAL!!!!!!!! God, this is my absolute favorite part of the show! ?I get so excited, like it's my first time!

Well, you guys know the rest....even though the GNR Gods didn't answer my prayer to hear Civil War....the show absolutely ROCKED! ?
The crowd was really awesome....most people stood the whole time....even the upper levels. ?

A couple of funny tidbits...
 : ok:Dude holding up the sign that said "Gimme some Twat" or something like that.
 : ok:Crazy Cheryl put paraphenalia in her bra and crotched a flasked! All without a hitch!
 

Anyone know if the "Axl for President" sign shown on the video screens was from THIS show, or just live footage from another time?  I had a feeling it was from the Chicago show, but I'm not sure.

It was.  I was right next to it.

I agree that the crowd was pretty good.  I didn't THINK of sitting, though no one in front of me (in my section) stood during the 4 song solos/new material period.  I was just waiting for the sit-down guys behind me to say something, so I could snap back about them sitting during a Guns N' Roses show...but it didn't happen.

The few things that annoyed me about the crowd:

The idiot behind me who placed a cell phone call during all new songs (oh...and during SWEET CHILD O' MINE!). 

The woman in front of me who STOOD ON HER SEAT (yeah, that won't block my view or anything...thanks for being so considerate!).  Fortunately, the seat next to me was vacant, so I just shifted left!

On the plus side, I heard ONE GUY boo ONE TIME, during the whole show, so they seemed to accept the new Guns. 

Cool...I had hoped so.  In Chicago, it's "vote early, vote often," so I'm sure Axl could at least win alderman or something.

Thats what your sposda do. But all I'm saying is that everyone that gets pit tix has to expect fuckwits there to. You cant buy floor tix and expect it to be peaceful. Thats why its called a pit. I've never heard of any sort of pit (not just mosh pit) that wasnt evil. Remember that one from Jedi?


 :peace:

That was actually my friend's cousin. He was stuck in the back, and was going to try to get it to us all the way in the front in front of Axl, but couln't. The sign actuall said "Axl Please Play TWAT". It was great..but unfortunatley i doubt Axl saw it or even if he did I don't think he woulda played.

There was a sign that said "Axl for President" that got some time in the big screen.

I posted most of my review at the concert thread not knowing someone started a new one. Got to tell you guys about the most awesome t-shirt I now own, made by sex kitten herself. The girl is a genius with clothes. The front says - I love Axl with a pic of him in a squad car hand cuffed being arrested and the back says loaded like a freight train! It rocks so hard, I might frame it! I was actually worried about spilling beer on it!

I am so psyched, still can't quit thinking about the concert, sad that it is over and almost tempted to go to Milwaukee until I heard the news :'(
I'm sorry Axl is sick but he is missing a serious metal crowd in Wisconsin. Actually, midwest is a great place to see a metal show cause most people are metal fans who grew up in mostly small towns fantasizing about being a rock star. Lots of long hair and serious rockers!

Jarmo - you seriously must consider sex kitten as a good will ambassador for your site! She rocks! Although we only got to meet one person with a HTGTH t-shirt! Couldn't really identify anyone else from here.

I want to quit my job and follow the band, man... that's how awesome this show was! If only...

Just to clarify..i was there too and the upper deck corner sections were nearly EMPTY, so the place was not sold out...lets not mislead people

Not trying to mislead anyone, just trying to describe the show from my vantage point.  It looked completely packed from where I was sitting.

In the past 4 days I saw GNR in Cleveland, Detroit and Chicago, ?all shows rocked and all started late. ?The only thing that sucks about it starting late is that it is near impossible to stay drunk at a GNR show. ?In chicago I got to the venue at 10:30 and they had already stopped serving, by the time GNR got on stage I was sober and tired. ?All I wanted was to get drunk and rock, is that too much to ask?

Also, on 97.9 the loop today everyone was calling in and saying how shitty GNR was in chicago last night. ?Did I miss something, I thought they were awesome.

I agree! That show rocked!!! I had a blast and I never drink alcohol.

I was at the show last night. ?They sounded great but the crowd sucked. ?I was in the front row, the people around me looked like they needed a gun to shoot themselves. They were barely alive, just hanging with their heads down, not singing, hands in their pockets. ?My friend and I were the only ones singing and the asshole, so-called GNR fnas were getting pissed. ?Were they trying to take a nap? ?Fuckin lame. ?VERY disappointed. ?Lame asses.

Couldn't drink alcohol on the floor. LAME

The only thing you could take on the floor was water. That sucked! I don't drink, but they wouldn't even let me take my pepsi down with me.

The upper section towards the back was pretty scarce looking. I'd estimate that this show was 80-85% sold out, which isn't bad considering there is no new album, and all that stuff.

I noticed Axl's voice was a little raspier( nothing too serious though) towards the last few songs, but man i'll give the guy props. I've had a couple serious bouts of strep throat, one of which nearly landed me in the hospital, so I don't know how he pulled it off. I'd have never guessed he was sick.

Folks, you gotta plan ahead and bring a "fun bag!" : ok:

A fun bag with a flask, and a blanket for the people who need a nap.  The Allstate Arena can lick my ass.

You know, my wife put it best about the show, she is MUCH less biased than me, so its not all G N R love from her..

She pointed out, as someone who has theatre experience, that the show was basically scripted.  It wasn't spontaneous and everyone in the band knows exactly whats coming. 

Now i have to point out this clearly wasn't the case in 92 when they played this same venue, that show was unpredictable, not pre-determined and was deadly good.  This one was good, but not in the same league as that.  And its not a slight on Axl or the other band  members, its more of how the show is packaged.  More "brand than band" is a good way to put it...

I saw multiple shows and can tell you that it's not like that.

They know what's coming because Axl or Tommy tells the rest of the guys what song is next. They have ways to communicate between each other. So if Tommy says "let's do Used To Love Her", the rest of the band will know what's coming.

They switch around songs and add songs. You can't script that in advance.




/jarmo

you are talking about 1 or 2, 3 songs at the most...90% of the show IS scripted, it has to be, lighting, pyro, and video is in place.? if you recall the UYI tour, there was no pyro, no video images...thus the big difference and limitations.  Not saying its good or bad really, it is what it is..

i was at yesterdays show it was great!!!!!!!!!!!  Sebashtian was  bad he sucked!!!! Axl was awsome we left after nightrain it was so late  i noticed people started leaving at 1230  that was weirdI enjoyed BETTER  and IRS I'M GLAD axl wasnt a jerk he put on one hell of a show!!!!!!He should of put the album out 1st because the people didnt no the new song but i did  lol i hope the album comes out ASAP!!!!!! I hope axl feels beter

They don't use pyro in every song.

Same with the video footage.


They had lights and some pyro in the 90s too.



1-3 songs?

Rocket Queen, Used To Love Her, You're Crazy, Down On The Farm, Madagascar, Chinese Democracy and IRS are all optional songs they play.



/jarmo

Thou dost protest too much...

It is almost the same exact set list and order since New York.  Sure one or 2 songs may be added and are optional.  But they do script the show.  There is no shame in that, they have a job to do.

In the 90's there was no pyro except for maybe Paradise City and I don't even think there was for that.  It was all mood lighting.  Not the extravagant lights they have now.  Let's not kid here!  I have been a fan of the band since the beginning.  The show is much more polished now, and it should be for $65-$90 a ticket!

I think they had pyro on Live And Let Die.


They're a lot tighter now than they were in Europe back in the summer.




/jarmo

Pretty sure it was just strobe lighting on LALD.  There is no doubt that they are tighter, at least from the first 2 nights in NY that I seen.  But it is still a package setlist and order.

again....

if 5 or 6 people around you look like they are being forced to be there, they may not be loud cheerleader type anyways...

from section 116 across from the stage, I could see nearly the whole crowd, and it was JACKED like I said

Not Lame at all

Umm, it is not quite that spontaneous.

On the US Leg, we have seen the following choices

1. Madagascar and /or Chinese Democracy
2. IRS is there nearly every show.
3. One of the following Rocket Queen, Used To Love Her, You're Crazy, Down On The Farm appears very sporadically. They do not use this option consistantly.

So basically, we get No. 2 nearly every night and a choice with No. 1.  On the rare instance, they pull out no. 3.

First off, yes, most bands that have a huge stage show play a mostly scripted set.  I have no problem with that. They have their few song selections where substitutions can be made, but that's part of the big show.

One other part that I didn't write earlier... When we were buying a couple of drinks before Suicide Girls, I mentioned to the beer lady that its going to be a long night.  She reached under the money tray and pulled out their (Aramark) itinerary for the night.  It specifically stated GNR 11:10p.m. - 1:30am.  Then she mentioned that she would be watching most of the show since beer sales were going to be cut off before GnR would even start.

Therefore, its not that they go onstage 'late', that's just their scheduled time. (For whatever thats worth... work still kicked my ass today).

For future shows, talk to the beer concession people. They usually know what's going on. ;D

Keep in mind that there's a difference between selling a ticket and getting people through the gates.  I'm sure the scalpers probably had some tix they couldn't get rid of, and those empty seats don't buy beers (which helps the venue) or shirts (which helps the band).  But, I'd still estimate the attendance at 4 out of 5 seats filled.  Probably 9/10 in the lower level.  Hard to tell with the floor, since I have no idea how many are allowed.  It seemed as though security didn't want people going behind the sound mixer at all, so I'm sure they don't try to completely fill the floor.

Either way, let those bitch who wish to.  I had one fuckin' great time, and I know that I won't ever let a nearby GNR show go unattended again. 

I agree completely.  Actually, the down time between Baz and GNR was not as bad as I expected.  I read some preview on chicagoist.com (I think) that said they come on two hours after the last opening act, which is bullshit.  I went out, looked at the t-shirts, bought one, sat for 15 more minutes, and heard the sweet strum of Welcome to the Jungle. 

The added pyro for LALD in '92, I saw them on the GNR/Metallica tour and there were quite a few very loud explosions during the song, you can hear them on the bootlegs usually.

I went out, looked at the t-shirts, bought one
I was with you until the "bought one". I'm sorry but $45 for a T-Shirt is retarded. At the Hammerstein they were only $20-25. I also found three shirts in the street after the Hammerstein concert! So for me they were $6 each!

I am so happy that MADAGASCAR was included! And that show did not feel scripted at all. Now Madonna is so precise that it is cold. The TV concert was the exact same show as the one I saw In Chicago. And from where i was sitting at the Barbara Streisand concert I could see the teleprompter and her interaction with the crowd was scripted just like a screenplay.

Ok. Couple things man... first off, I have plenty of stage and theatrical experience and let me tell you that in order to put on a tight - almost 2 1/2 hour show - you have to script - if you don't, so much can happen that is out of your control - plus, give the man a break, he was sick - I have had strep a bunch and with having to use my voice for a living, it is some serious shit - it can turn into pneumonia, rheumatic fever (happened to my hubbie), and sometimes make any nodules you might have on your vocal cords already from misuse - worse! Strep can wipe you out and he still put as much energy and heart into the show as if he was well! I would have scripted too feeling like shit. But, scripted is ok. It's just having a better handle on things and yes, while it is great to just play whatever, I think Axl really cares about the quality and showmenship and if he knows they don't have other numbers down tight, he might just be more comfortable with a scripted - remember everyone grows up! He wants everyone to have the best possible experience.
IMO, I don't mind it and I'm sure I'll go to another show sometime in the future when this band has had many more dates and rehearsals under their belt and I'll get my unscripted. Plus, how do you know that some of that unscripted shit back in 2002 didn't cause some of the problems between band members? I've done unscripted, improv and if you don't know how the other person is going to perform, you expect something in your mind but so does the other person and they don't always deliver what you expect - meaning - let's say he said well fuck it, let's do Civil War, and they haven't rehearsed this number regularly so one of the guitar players play in a different key than expected and maybe some notes get added or someone decides to play the song a certain way and you sing it anyway but you're not quite happy cause there are things that should have been adjusted. It's somewhat about having control but it's also insuring you don't get pissed while performing - why did you do that? - and insuring the crowd hears an awesome tight set. This isn't the improv!

Also, fuck the people that called the loop to say the show was lame. They are lame. I will tell you since I am now over 30 and attending shows for bands that have been around for a long time - most of the audiences attending these shows are lame - I saw the Rolling Stones for christ sake and I was the only one dancing and singing in my row while most people just looked on - and the worst pisser of all - I went to see Van Morrison - who is one of my all time favorites - I had great seats - I was standing, singing and dancing as usual - and the fucks in back of me where yelling to sit down and stop dancing! WTF! I actually moved to a shitty seat so I could sing and dance and not bother the fucking lame asses that attend these shows with no enthusiasm - that is the audience when people get over 30 - don't know what happens but people come to a show to sit and clap politely - they are not into showing fan appreciation and they expect the artist to win them over! Plus, I think the people that attend these shows that act like that are morons - your at a rock concert for fuck's sake - go to a retirement home or see Tony Bennet if you want to sit and clap politely. We had people around us at Guns that were like that too - I was waiting for one person to open their mouth about my singing and dancing and I would have told them to get their ass in a retirement home then! Stay home if all you can do is complain!

We had great seats for GNR and from what I saw, there were still a lot of people at the end and no it wasn't sold out but it was full up to the last level. I would say probably 90% full for the show. And some people were leaving early, but I'm sure that happened at all shows - you got be prepared to roll to hang with the best!!!!!! Let me tell you that my damn babysitter who watches my kids during the day and is only 22 years old could not make it to my house on time the next day because she was tired!! She babysat my kids for the show. We got home at 3 AM and I got up at 7 AM to get my girl to school and get ready for work - she didn't get to my house until 10:30 when she should have been there at 8:30 - WTF is up with that? I'm more than a decade old, I can drink and party the night before, come home at 3 and still make it to work.

Everyone complains that everything sucks on the Loop. People just love to complain and hate. I'd like to see their asses get up on stage, sick with strep and put on a 2 1/2 hour show! I'm younger than Axl and I couldn't run the stage like that - so shut your pie holes!

And that branding bullshit is from Greg Kott I think in the Tribune - part of his review because GNR has not put out anything new and still touring - he likens them to all these bands out touring now with nothing new but nostalgia - when you don't know the whole story, you shouldn't form an opinion. While we really don't know what's going to happen, I wouldn't judge until after this tour.

And don't be embarassed to be GNR fans man! You should be proud. I've heard some crap - nobody makes it without their fans man - there are so many people that have come and gone - regardless of the status of the new music - GNR stuff is classic, nobody will ever touch much of their music or come along and make something similar - just like the Stones keep touring and making cash with classic - stuff after a certain period is just shit IMO - but I pay to see them to hear the classics mostly and so what? Jagger can be an asshole, the whole group can and they have had feuds along the way but no one makes fun of people going to see them and some of their classics IMO, after they have reworked or done whatever and Mick Jagger is like 60 or nearing it, and his voice is not same, are not so great anymore at a live show but do people complain? No cause it's the Stones and they could throw shit at their audience of preppy, canned lame asses and they would not care.

Everyone just wants to everyone to be over the top and outrageous most of the time with all the crazy reality shows out there and media overload and I say fuck that - GNR has matured, just like the rest of us and it doesn't diminish the music in any way. Ok. I've had my rant. Now if I could just light a fire under the lame asses that attend shows who come to sit and clap...

Beautifully written!

it's not always the case

in paris and london they were scheduled at 10. and they came on at 11.30

but hey
it's cool

think about it, more time = longer night = money worht

Fair enough, though I didn't pay $45, so I'm not sure where you got that.  It's really no worse than paying $7 each for a few pissweisers or piss lights, or any of the other legal extortion that goes on at concerts.   

If you paid $6 for an actual, real concert t-shirt, then that's a great deal.  I have my suspicions, however, that it probably wasn't.  Let me ask, did the seller also get you to buy a Rolox watch or perhaps a Guchee purse?

I'm not entirely sure what you're talking about and will assume you didn't really read my post. The shirts at the stand by the South gate were $45. I paid $25 for a shirt at the Hammerstein in May - in the concert, at the stand. I then found (as in did not buy) three more in the street after the concert. I was making a joke that $25 divided by four shirts = $6.25 per shirt.

Hear you on the beer thing though.

Ya Chicago rocked!!

I did read it, though I completely misunderstood, I think.  When you said you "found" them in the street, I thought you meant someone was selling ripoffs outside...not that you literally FOUND some.  I can't believe someone would pay (too much) for shirts and then leave 'em in the street (they clearly had enough money for MANY $7 beers).  I bought my shirt at the stand by the East gate, and it wasn't $45...maybe the long sleeve ones were $45?  I'm not sure.  I paid $35, which is still too much, but pretty common for concert tees.  I expected to pay $30 or so, if I wanted one.  I would NOT have bought the jackets or button up shirts that were going for $80-$125.  Ouch!     

Holy shit! Dead on accurate and well written.... here here!

Great post! Strep can be some serious shit, especially if left untreated. I was nearly hospitalized because of that shit once.

The people that didn't enjoy the show should just stay home next time, in my opinion.

In my opinion, GNR, is a brand, in addition to a band. I don't mean that as a bad thing either. Most bands that have been very successful become a "brand" so to speak. Metallica, Aerosmith, Ac/Dc, KISS, etc...? You can buy their merch at Target and Wal-Mart for example. I don't see a problem with it. Some call it "selling out", some just call it "being successful".

Yeah, that is my banner! I made it 2 days before the show. I was trying to find the right time to pull the banner out so Axl would see it. I pulled the banner out during Patience and my new buddy and I held it up when Axl was walking in front of us (right in front of Tommy). I will never forget the moment when Axl looked right at it. He saw it, smiled big, and looked right at me and knoded. That was cool. I was hoping to toss it up on the stage and have Axl hold it up, but after Axl acknowledged it, one of the band's security personel came up to me and said something about it being a cool banner but if Axl wants it on stage, he will let us know. So he said to just keep it on the rail in the mean time. I never got the cue to toss it up there, but at the end of Patience I saw it up on the big screen. That was worth it, SO COOL!? I'm glad you guys liked it.

Thanks 1 bad apple! You are right, all bands do it now. There was once a time when no one would sell out, now you hear everyone's shit on commercials and so forth. You're right, it's just a way to keep the cash flowing. Although, has any of the Guns music ever been sold for a commercial? I can't remember?

I WILL BE POSTING MY 35 MINUTES WORTH OF GNR FROM MONDAY.......IN ABOUT 30 MINS......EXCELLENT QUALITY.....ABOUT 10-15 FEET FROM THE STAGE..........GET READY PEOPLE.....PRETTY GOOD STUFF

Very cool...and so cool that they showed it on vid, too!  Most people around me figured it was hanging over the balcony, so no wonder I couldn't physically spot it.

Since they keep deleting your posts, why don't you put it on YouTube or something...then HTGTH isn't posting illegally shot material...just links to other sites.  Just a thought.

I AM UPLOADING THEM AS WE SPEAK.....GET READY

HOW DO WE POST PICS ON HERE?

upload the pics to photobucket or imageshack and then paste the url here between [ img ] [ /img ] (with no spaces)

i have one pic that im posting now......the videos are loading up.......im gonna create a new post just so everyone knows they are up and i expect to be deleted....but i am also gonna post the links in here......i just want everyone to see that they are here..........

i have the full clips for Patience and Better......so good

THE ONLY PIC I TOOK CUZ SECURITY WAS WATCHING FOR FLASHES ALL NIGHT.......GREAT SHOT......THE WHOLE BAND ON STAGE.........I WAS PROBABLY 10 FEET AWAY FROM STAGE.........

(http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f48/jmako1/DSC01318.jpg)

TJ, excellent sign!!!!  Awesome pic gekko!  I appreciate that!  : ok:

THESE VIDEOS ARE TAKING A WHILE TO LOAD UP ON YOUTUBE SO BEAR WITH ME.....THEY ARE WORTH THE WAIT

As Axl stated, he liked to do a acoustic suprise show afterwards in CHicago, but the ear and throat kept him from doing it.

Vegas has gotten 2 NY shows, plus a club show this year. NY got 4 shows at Hammertein this year, and LA is getting 3 shows already this month.

I think Chicago deserves to be next. The Allstate show was ELECTRIC, I don't care what any other review says...and Axl gave a special thanks afterwards, hoping to see us soon, well 12/31/06 sounds good to me.

I know The Raconteurs are playing the Riv(I'm going the night before)...I dunno about the other venues.

But we have The House of Blues, Vic, Aragon, Auditorium and Congress theatres, plus the brawl room....I'm sure one if not all of them are open for a 2-3 night stand...

C'mon back Axl

They'll be on the west coast during that time...I dont see the point in flying out to Chicago to do a NY show.

Hell, if they wanted to do that they should go back to Portland and Milwaukee and do shows in those places.

How about the band takes a little break during the holidays to be with their families?  :peace:

I'm still kinda praying they play Vegas again on NYE, but it most likely won't happen.

how bout some southern dates...we need nascar AND gnr down south

How about that album? Then start considering new dates.

Waaaaait a minute. There's an album?!

So I've heard. Probably just another rumour though.

A nice thought (since I'm close enough to go) but I think the fans in Milwaukee deserve a date after their bad luck tonight.

just to mention ....the intro to november rain was slightly changed as to the studio version and I have 2 Gigabytes worth of pictures and video from the floor center 8 people back..( cause there was no rows) I would like to share it.

at one point of the concert it axl tripped over a mike stand did you see that...

ok, my friend helped me put them on........http://richiec69.spaces.live.com/

i'm on one of the pictures i'm the guy with the black hat and sunglasses....pleased to meet you!!


enjoy!!!

snakepiter

Here's the place http://richiec69.spaces.live.com/

I'm on picture #8.....

Cheers!!

snakepiter

Nice pics man.

THX great pics

here's sweet child o' mine video rosemont 2006 ...........http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7WqoD31peb8

I love picture 41. :)

The pics of Axel of great.

CHICAGO 11-27-06 - MULTIPLE CONCERT VIDEO LINKS

I recorded all these video clips myself...I was about 10 feet away and i used my very thin and powerful Sony digital camera...I thought I would share these because they are too good not for everyone to enjoy...I hope you guys love them as much as I do.....I wanna hear some feedback.......

I have put all the links under the descriptions of each one.  Just copy and Paste...Hope you Enjoy!!!  GekkoTheGreat


Full Clip of PATIENCE (My personal favorite and without a doubt the best video I shot)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=322YchJTWBg

Full Clip of BETTER:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4LdwvHj5GXM

Full Clip of MY MICHELLE (Performed with Sebastian Bach):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BaEg9dyniYA

Partial Clip of WELCOME TO THE JUNGLE:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oj58oBaLL-g

Partial Clip of SWEET CHILD (PART 1):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Pxg7aSl0Qs

Partial Clip of SWEET CHILD (PART 2):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q9yuDLWHGP8

Partial Clip of PARADISE CITY (PART 1):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3XIukDGWlDE

Partial Clip of PARADISE CITY (PART 2):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V_eqfsye6-I

Partial Clip of PARADISE CITY (PART 3):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PKs7z4zwNVo

Partial Clip of MADAGASCAR:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6vtIwCgSkMQ

Partial Clip of IRS (PART 1):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bx34LcMQrik

Partial Clip of IRS (PART 2):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dlbztdpdZ9w

Wow thanks for the clips!!
amy

Cool videos....looks as though both people were recording very very near where my wife and I were standing. ?We were about 4 'rows' back, and to the right of the stage if you were looking at it from the floor.  We had a great time by the way. ?My wife isn't a big fan, but she cant wait to go again :)

For myself, I was really looking forward to seeing Nighttrain, and it was great :)

Other than that, the new songs were my favorite. ?Was great to hear them live after listening to them on boots/demos for so long lol

All in all, a great show. ?Still cant believe it was 15 years between GNR shows for me.

I was so proud to be able to sing almost all of BETTER at the top of my lungs.

#15 is a great pic of Axl and the stage setup.

Screaming "Better" at the top of my lungs is usually where I start to lose my voice.. :hihi:

hello,

every bird on the every single tree already knows this... you posted it like a milion times. it is cool, nice work and it's place is in AFC section and it is there... cool?

THE PROBLEM IS ...NOT A LOT OF PEOPLE KNOW ABOUT IT OVER THERE...AND IHAVE GOTTEN LOST OF MESSAGES FROM PEOPLE THAT ARE ASKING ME TO REPOST....CAN YOU LEAVE IT UP JUST FOR A FEW HOURS AND THEN MOVE IT OVER THERE....PLEASE....THAT IS ALL I AM ASKING FOR......

Selling a DVD, I take it......

vector....i havent made a dvd but lots of people asking for one......i would do it for free becuz GNR is all about loyalty

Thanks gekko!  :beer:

Thanks for the vids!!!

bottom line the axl was awsomeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 here's the you tube link to November Rain by your friend...... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x0rv8LLlKyM
 

cheers

Snakepiter