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Title: True or False: Best VMA performace in the last 20 years was GnR closing in 2002
Post by: AppetiteForChinese on November 26, 2006, 08:20:20 PM
to me it was anyway
i thought it was definitly the most memorable, and there hasnt been an artist close since then to even come close to comparing IMO
what do you all think?


Title: Re: True or False: Best VMA performace in the last 20 years was GnR closing in 2
Post by: axl2 on November 26, 2006, 08:22:09 PM
If axl didnt suck it up so bad it would have been amazing.


Title: Re: True or False: Best VMA performace in the last 20 years was GnR closing in 2
Post by: -Jack- on November 26, 2006, 08:22:27 PM
If axl didnt suck it up so bad it would have been amazing.

Pretty much sums it up.


Title: Re: True or False: Best VMA performace in the last 20 years was GnR closing in 2002
Post by: dave-gnfnr2k on November 26, 2006, 08:24:17 PM
Gnr doing WTTJ in the 80s was
The 2002 gnr ws the biggest surprise by far.


Title: Re: True or False: Best VMA performace in the last 20 years was GnR closing in 2002
Post by: Gunner Fucker on November 26, 2006, 08:26:17 PM
to me it was anyway
i thought it was definitly the most memorable, and there hasnt been an artist close since then to even come close to comparing IMO
what do you all think?

I think it was really fucked up.


Title: Re: True or False: Best VMA performace in the last 20 years was GnR closing in 2002
Post by: AppetiteForChinese on November 26, 2006, 08:27:18 PM
to me it was anyway
i thought it was definitly the most memorable, and there hasnt been an artist close since then to even come close to comparing IMO
what do you all think?

I think it was really fucked up.


 :rofl:


Title: Re: True or False: Best VMA performace in the last 20 years was GnR closing in 2002
Post by: GunsN'Gravy on November 26, 2006, 08:32:01 PM
(http://www.britneysites.com/pictures/awards/vma_2000/vma11.jpg)This one was better, visually anyway.


Title: Re: True or False: Best VMA performace in the last 20 years was GnR closing in 2
Post by: Dr. Blutarsky on November 26, 2006, 08:32:26 PM
Great surprise, but below par performance by Axl.  Anything live from 2006 blows the 02 VMA's away.



Title: Re: True or False: Best VMA performace in the last 20 years was GnR closing in 2002
Post by: XxWickeds10xX on November 26, 2006, 08:36:20 PM
Yeah, I agree, Axl's voice made me cringe! So did his terrible cornrows.....thank god he shortned them.


Title: Re: True or False: Best VMA performace in the last 20 years was GnR closing in 2002
Post by: AppetiteForChinese on November 26, 2006, 08:40:33 PM
man, i can hear the crickets chirping where im at   :-[


Title: Re: True or False: Best VMA performace in the last 20 years was GnR closing in 2002
Post by: XxWickeds10xX on November 26, 2006, 08:44:13 PM
I think your right about the memorable part...for us GnR fans anyway. To everyone else, it was Axl Rose with a guy wearing a bucket on his head, and a few other nobodys playing songs they kinda remember. I will always remember that night, to me it was the night GnR stepped BACK into the spotlight, however good or bad it was.


Title: Re: True or False: Best VMA performace in the last 20 years was GnR closing in 2002
Post by: imkeepintheaura on November 26, 2006, 08:49:01 PM
axl and tom petty 1989.........that was kick arse..........axl blowing tom outta the water for free fallin


Title: Re: True or False: Best VMA performace in the last 20 years was GnR closing in 2002
Post by: GunsN'Gravy on November 26, 2006, 08:51:40 PM
Whenever I show free falling to people I know they all look horrified as soon as Axl starts his wailing, and they are GnR fans, I don't mind it but it does seem kind of humorous.


Title: Re: True or False: Best VMA performace in the last 20 years was GnR closing in 2002
Post by: Bill 213 on November 26, 2006, 08:57:31 PM
False by far.......simply put, Neil Young and Eddie Vedder doing "Keep On Rocking In The Free World" was the greatest MTV Awards live performance.


Title: Re: True or False: Best VMA performace in the last 20 years was GnR closing in 2002
Post by: Bandita on November 26, 2006, 09:07:43 PM
False, I really almost cried after I saw it.

I think even Axl would agree.

But he sounds so much better now, so much like his younger self that I really just try to block 2002 out of my mind entirely.


Title: Re: True or False: Best VMA performace in the last 20 years was GnR closing in 2002
Post by: GNRslaxl on November 26, 2006, 09:08:19 PM
i'm sure that it was the biggest surprise, but definitly not the best performance...


Title: Re: True or False: Best VMA performace in the last 20 years was GnR closing in 2002
Post by: Verasa on November 26, 2006, 09:13:06 PM
i remember just wanting it to end. I thought that was  his worst live performance ever.
the best suprise of the last 20yrs for sure though
best performance imo pearl jam and neil young in 93'


Title: Re: True or False: Best VMA performace in the last 20 years was GnR closing in 2002
Post by: AmyRose on November 26, 2006, 09:13:16 PM
TRUE.


Title: Re: True or False: Best VMA performace in the last 20 years was GnR closing in 2002
Post by: Bandita on November 26, 2006, 09:20:11 PM
As far VMA performances, I really prefer GNR/Elton John 1992 November Rain.  That would be my fav.  I haven't watched the 2002 performance since it aired on TV. 


Title: Re: True or False: Best VMA performace in the last 20 years was GnR closing in 2
Post by: veritas55 on November 26, 2006, 09:37:42 PM
easy answer: FALSE.

It was, using someone else's words, a "catastrophe."


Title: Re: True or False: Best VMA performace in the last 20 years was GnR closing in 2002
Post by: Ak1nney on November 26, 2006, 09:38:18 PM
The opening to this performance was awesome all the way up to it gets rocking. Axl's scream was good, but when the vocals kick in, it's kinda scary. The only parts I ever watch when I watch it is the opening, ending of Jungle with the good vocals, Madagascar, then the interview cause it's cool to see Axl.


Title: Re: True or False: Best VMA performace in the last 20 years was GnR closing in 2
Post by: von on November 26, 2006, 09:42:53 PM
The opening to this performance was awesome all the way up to it gets rocking. Axl's scream was good, but when the vocals kick in, it's kinda scary. The only parts I ever watch when I watch it is the opening, ending of Jungle with the good vocals, Madagascar, then the interview cause it's cool to see Axl.

I've been looking for the interview on YouTube for a long time now with no luck. I haven't seen it since it aired the first time on TV. Can you help me find it?


Title: Re: True or False: Best VMA performace in the last 20 years was GnR closing in 2002
Post by: Communist China on November 26, 2006, 09:43:58 PM
FALSE.


Title: Re: True or False: Best VMA performace in the last 20 years was GnR closing in 2002
Post by: Ak1nney on November 26, 2006, 09:44:11 PM
I would upload it, cause I just have it on a file I dowloaded when I had broadband. My net is way too slow to do it now tho, sorry.


Title: Re: True or False: Best VMA performace in the last 20 years was GnR closing in 2
Post by: von on November 26, 2006, 09:45:13 PM
I would upload it, cause I just have it on a file I dowloaded when I had broadband. My net is way too slow to do it now tho, sorry.

That's OK. Thanks anyway. Anyone maybe have an idea where I can download it?


Title: Re: True or False: Best VMA performace in the last 20 years was GnR closing in 2002
Post by: Naupis on November 26, 2006, 09:47:27 PM
That show made this comeback so much harder than it already was. It was everyone's first impression of his new group, and it bombed. You can only make one first impression, and I would still argue to this day he has not fully lived that down in the eyes of the general public who still have their last image of him at his lowest moment.

I think things would be entirely different right now had he come out and tore the joint down and left people raving the next day. That obviously did not happen.


Title: Re: True or False: Best VMA performace in the last 20 years was GnR closing in 2002
Post by: DunkinDave on November 26, 2006, 09:49:25 PM
The sound mix sucked and Axl was out of shape.

That performance was what got me into Guns N' Roses. I was like "this is kind of cool".

And then I went online and saw pictures of Axl from the 1990s and went "what the fuck did this guy do to himself between then and now?". I ordered a Rock in Rio III DVD from eBay, which was a year before, and he still looked totally different compared to his appearance at the VMA's.

And then I got bootlegs of shows from the 1990s and went "what the fuck happened to his voice between 1992 and 2001?".

In essence, the 2001-2002 lineup was a mess.


Title: Re: True or False: Best VMA performace in the last 20 years was GnR closing in 2002
Post by: surforia on November 26, 2006, 10:00:39 PM
False by far.......simply put, Neil Young and Eddie Vedder doing "Keep On Rocking In The Free World" was the greatest MTV Awards live performance.

Neil Young with Pearl Jam.  and yeah, that performance was, by far, the best ever...


Title: Re: True or False: Best VMA performace in the last 20 years was GnR closing in 2002
Post by: Axls Rosed on November 26, 2006, 10:02:19 PM
No way, this was Axl at hos worst... a dark moment in GNR history for sure.


AR


Title: Re: True or False: Best VMA performace in the last 20 years was GnR closing in 2002
Post by: Axl_GNR on November 26, 2006, 10:07:17 PM
The 1992 VMA performance of November Rain or the 1987 performance of WTTJ are by far the greatest performances in VMA history. 


Title: Re: True or False: Best VMA performace in the last 20 years was GnR closing in 2002
Post by: D on November 26, 2006, 10:12:44 PM
Jon Bon Jovi and Richie Sambora acoustic Prayer and Wanted thus sparking the MTV Unplugged series.

Greatest VMA performance ever


Title: Re: True or False: Best VMA performace in the last 20 years was GnR closing in 2002
Post by: JDA on November 26, 2006, 10:16:24 PM
I thought it was cool but Axl did not sound well.


Title: Re: True or False: Best VMA performace in the last 20 years was GnR closing in 2
Post by: Lord Kayoss on November 26, 2006, 10:26:25 PM
Definitely the most surprising, but not the best.


Title: Re: True or False: Best VMA performace in the last 20 years was GnR closing in 2002
Post by: bigbri on November 26, 2006, 10:27:41 PM
Not a chance in hell was it the best. I liked it, but, damn, I'm hard-core. It was a performance only a mother could love.


Title: Re: True or False: Best VMA performace in the last 20 years was GnR closing in 2002
Post by: Axl_GNR on November 26, 2006, 10:29:03 PM
Not a chance in hell was it the best. I liked it, but, damn, I'm hard-core. It was a performance only a mother could love.
It wasn't that bad, by far the best performance of the night.


Title: Re: True or False: Best VMA performace in the last 20 years was GnR closing in 2002
Post by: DunkinDave on November 26, 2006, 10:32:57 PM
Not a chance in hell was it the best. I liked it, but, damn, I'm hard-core. It was a performance only a mother could love.
It wasn't that bad, by far the best performance of the night.

I thought Springsteen's performance that opened the show was way better. The Sheryl Crow performance was very good as well.


Title: Re: True or False: Best VMA performace in the last 20 years was GnR closing in 2002
Post by: GnFnR87 on November 26, 2006, 10:34:18 PM
the intro scream to jungle was one of his best ever, madagascar sounded good, the band sounded good overall, but the vocals on jungle and paradise city were sub-par. he was out of breath during both of those songs.

i think the best was the jungle in '89, that was sick, axl was all over the stage and the whole band nailed it.


Title: Re: True or False: Best VMA performace in the last 20 years was GnR closing in 2002
Post by: TrixAreForKids on November 26, 2006, 10:38:40 PM
False by far.......simply put, Neil Young and Eddie Vedder doing "Keep On Rocking In The Free World" was the greatest MTV Awards live performance.

Neil Young with Pearl Jam.? and yeah, that performance was, by far, the best ever...

They performed "Animal" first.  ;)


Title: Re: True or False: Best VMA performace in the last 20 years was GnR closing in 2002
Post by: DunkinDave on November 26, 2006, 10:38:56 PM
i think the best was the jungle in '89, that was sick, axl was all over the stage and the whole band nailed it.

The 1988 VMA's, you mean.

I love that performance, but Axl starts to lose his voice halfway through and it's destracting.

Not that he didn't always have that happen while singing WTTJ during that time period, but still.


Title: Re: True or False: Best VMA performace in the last 20 years was GnR closing in 2002
Post by: PhillyRiot on November 26, 2006, 10:49:46 PM
WTTJ VMA performance was unbelivably good.  I also really liked Free Fallin'.  So 2002 is not the best IMO.


Title: Re: True or False: Best VMA performace in the last 20 years was GnR closing in 2
Post by: uzisuicide2002 on November 26, 2006, 10:50:21 PM
if the 06 guns did the vmas it would of been the shit. :beer:


Title: Re: True or False: Best VMA performace in the last 20 years was GnR closing in 2
Post by: Bandita on November 26, 2006, 11:27:44 PM
if the 06 guns did the vmas it would of been the shit. :beer:

For sure.  They should really get something out in the spotlight for the public to see (on TV)because sadly what most people remember is the 2002 debacle.


Title: Re: True or False: Best VMA performace in the last 20 years was GnR closing in 2
Post by: freedom78 on November 26, 2006, 11:47:34 PM
I have to agree that Axl's voice at the 2002 VMAs had me worried for the quality of what might be on Chinese Democracy.  I thought, "Oh, No!  Another aging rock vocalist gone bad!," and I'm happy to say that I've been much reassured since.  While the performance pleased me from that "desperate for GNR" perspective, it wasn't great.


Title: Re: True or False: Best VMA performace in the last 20 years was GnR closing in 2
Post by: Gunner Fucker on November 26, 2006, 11:54:41 PM
if the 06 guns did the vmas it would of been the shit. :beer:

oh yes.


Title: Re: True or False: Best VMA performace in the last 20 years was GnR closing in 2
Post by: jesuswithamullet on November 27, 2006, 12:03:25 AM
Neil Young and Pearl Jam in 1993


Title: Re: True or False: Best VMA performace in the last 20 years was GnR closing in 2002
Post by: IREEKOFAWESUMNES on November 27, 2006, 03:30:00 AM
surprise wise and "holy shit" moment - yes

performance wise - no


Title: Re: True or False: Best VMA performace in the last 20 years was GnR closing in 2002
Post by: jimmythegent on November 27, 2006, 04:11:25 AM
that would be false

GNR in 88 ripping up Jungle comes to mind as one of the greats -02 Axl, out of breath, shape and tune most certainly does not


Title: Re: True or False: Best VMA performace in the last 20 years was GnR closing in 2
Post by: Slashead on November 27, 2006, 04:26:57 AM
Great surprise, but below par performance by Axl.? Anything live from 2006 blows the 02 VMA's away.


Not really. Their 2002 look was way more fun (with BH, Finck as a goth, Axl looking younger) whereas now they really look as an Adult Oriented Rock act...


Title: Re: True or False: Best VMA performace in the last 20 years was GnR closing in 2002
Post by: tomass74 on November 27, 2006, 08:00:02 AM
FALSE: it was terrible.  This is the only place where I saw people who thought the performance was actually any good.


Title: Re: True or False: Best VMA performace in the last 20 years was GnR closing in 2
Post by: Amanda. on November 27, 2006, 08:55:37 AM
easy answer: FALSE.

It was, using someone else's words, a "catastrophe."

for example, axl's. He said at one interview: "that was a catastrophe."


Title: Re: True or False: Best VMA performace in the last 20 years was GnR closing in 2
Post by: CheapJon on December 01, 2006, 11:41:11 AM
easy answer: FALSE.

It was, using someone else's words, a "catastrophe."

for example, axl's. He said at one interview: "that was a catastrophe."

well actually John Norris wondered if axl had any memories of that night and axl responded "catastrophe"the they both laughed : ok:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gqKKo8QEqaU

anyway no it's not the best performance, the best performance was WTTJ from 88 hands down


Title: Re: True or False: Best VMA performace in the last 20 years was GnR closing in 2002
Post by: Bridge on December 02, 2006, 12:45:50 PM
I'm in agreement with several others, the 1988 VMA performance of "Welcome of the Jungle" has always stood out as the best VMA performance ever.? The 2002 Axl Rose medley was one of the worst.

FALSE: it was terrible.  This is the only place where I saw people who thought the [2002] performance was actually any good.

Hey, don't forget that idiot Jimmy Fallon.  He went apeshit over it on stage, and then again on Conan O'Brien a few days later.


Title: Re: True or False: Best VMA performace in the last 20 years was GnR closing in 2002
Post by: Demon Wolf on December 02, 2006, 01:06:15 PM
Oh dear god no, VMA 2002 was utter crap. It made me cringe.  :crying:

Madagascar was decent, but WTTJ was unbearable. If they were to do the VMA's now....  :drool:


Title: Re: True or False: Best VMA performace in the last 20 years was GnR closing in 2002
Post by: kopitejohn on December 05, 2006, 06:23:56 AM
Oh dear god no, VMA 2002 was utter crap. It made me cringe.? :crying:

Madagascar was decent, but WTTJ was unbearable. If they were to do the VMA's now....? :drool:

i am afraid i have to agree.  the wttj and paradise city parts of the medley were utter cringeworthy and it had me worried as to the future of the band to be honest.  axl has also come out and said pretty much the same thing.  However, my worries were extinguished when the 2006 tour started and we heard axl back to his best.  it may have took him 4 years to get there but he is back to his best.  he looks better and sounds better.
i don't know of anyone who enjoyed the 2002 vma's.  obviously it was great to see them but the performance.......................???????????????

anyway, we should just enjoy now and forget about any bad performances.