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Title: What happened to the guy who heard studio versions of...
Post by: Demon Wolf on November 24, 2006, 11:09:50 AM
The Blues and some other song, when he walked by the Geffen HQ or something... Was it real, or was he faking it? I recall seeing the thread a couple of months ago, just wondering if there were any substance in it or if he was only joking....


Title: Re: What happened to the guy who heard studio versions of...
Post by: MrMojoRisin on November 24, 2006, 11:10:53 AM
hes still at home beating off after hearing it...


j/k

I guess it was false.


Title: Re: What happened to the guy who heard studio versions of...
Post by: Lucky on November 24, 2006, 11:17:18 AM
it was bullshit.
the guy is probably humping a palm tree again...


Title: Re: What happened to the guy who heard studio versions of...
Post by: Demon Wolf on November 24, 2006, 11:18:48 AM
Ah too bad... It seemed so genuine, there were even soundclips (although of poor quality)


Title: Re: What happened to the guy who heard studio versions of...
Post by: thelostrose on November 24, 2006, 11:19:50 AM
why's everyone so negative? are you jealous, because it didn't happen to you??


Title: Re: What happened to the guy who heard studio versions of...
Post by: EFISH on November 24, 2006, 11:32:43 AM
It was true. He's probably back at MyGNR.


Title: Re: What happened to the guy who heard studio versions of...
Post by: miss bomb on November 24, 2006, 11:41:33 AM
his name is Mr Vics, posts more at MYGNR, you can find it there.

he's genuine.


Title: Re: What happened to the guy who heard studio versions of...
Post by: Steve McKagan on November 24, 2006, 11:43:21 AM
You can hear that Axl's singing is studio.


Title: Re: What happened to the guy who heard studio versions of...
Post by: pollyblue on November 24, 2006, 11:45:45 AM
strange, i was thinking about that topic too today. so yes i still wonder was it real? i guess it was


Title: Re: What happened to the guy who heard studio versions of...
Post by: Neemo on November 24, 2006, 12:19:10 PM
the story is more promising with out the video....trust me ::)


Title: Re: What happened to the guy who heard studio versions of...
Post by: A Private Eye on November 24, 2006, 12:43:32 PM
the story is more promising with out the video....trust me ::)

What do you mean?


Title: Re: What happened to the guy who heard studio versions of...
Post by: ppbebe on November 24, 2006, 12:45:01 PM
I put my trust on you, neemo.


Title: Re: What happened to the guy who heard studio versions of...
Post by: Neemo on November 24, 2006, 12:48:38 PM
the story is more promising with out the video....trust me ::)

What do you mean?

cuz the video is shit and the audio is almost as bad


Title: Re: What happened to the guy who heard studio versions of...
Post by: Grouse on November 24, 2006, 12:49:36 PM
the story is more promising with out the video....trust me ::)

haha yeah the video I remember that  :hihi:


Title: Re: What happened to the guy who heard studio versions of...
Post by: A Private Eye on November 24, 2006, 12:59:45 PM
the story is more promising with out the video....trust me ::)

What do you mean?

cuz the video is shit and the audio is almost as bad

Ah right, I never downloaded the video or audio so I didn't know.

 :hihi:
That thread takes me back to more positive times and encouraging times, Russian Roullette ringing Geffen and pretending to be a cancer patient to trick info out of the receptionist. What wouldn't some GNR fans do  :hihi:


Title: Re: What happened to the guy who heard studio versions of...
Post by: Gagarin on November 24, 2006, 01:10:03 PM
Meh, sounded like Boston 2002 to me.


Title: Re: What happened to the guy who heard studio versions of...
Post by: Saboteur on November 24, 2006, 01:12:42 PM
True


Title: Re: What happened to the guy who heard studio versions of...
Post by: gnrbus on November 24, 2006, 01:23:52 PM
Lies


Title: Re: What happened to the guy who heard studio versions of...
Post by: EstrangedReality on November 24, 2006, 02:27:08 PM
It was genuine. I have listened to The Blues thousands of times and no live version has that softer quality during the "dooo" part, it's very clearly a studio cut.

He friggin' called Geffen the next day to prove to the doubters that he wasn't lying, and they basically confirmed his story. They said someone from MTV was there and that music is often played from the balcony for previews.

Plus, he didn't disappear - he just uses MyGNR more often.


Title: Re: What happened to the guy who heard studio versions of...
Post by: CheapJon on November 24, 2006, 02:33:29 PM
haha i was thinking about that a wek ago maybe, can someone post or upload the audioclips? please, i think i deleted them


Title: Re: What happened to the guy who heard studio versions of...
Post by: smugolo on November 24, 2006, 02:35:54 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1pZ4SGZW_SQ


Title: Re: What happened to the guy who heard studio versions of...
Post by: Lucky on November 24, 2006, 02:39:07 PM
its bullcrap...
and I've got some magical beans if you guys are willing to buy...
there's a sale on "get out of apocalypse free" cards...


Title: Re: What happened to the guy who heard studio versions of...
Post by: smugolo on November 24, 2006, 02:40:43 PM
i think it's the real deal. it sounds too good to be live, even with an amazing cleanup job


Title: Re: What happened to the guy who heard studio versions of...
Post by: Bandita on November 24, 2006, 02:41:15 PM
Nah, this guy isn't a noob, he is a reputable poster. ?Besides, what is so far fetched about the story anyway? ?GNR music coming from the company that is releasing the album?

And yes, I remember he called the next day and basically they confirmed it did happen. ? :peace:


Title: Re: What happened to the guy who heard studio versions of...
Post by: CheapJon on November 24, 2006, 02:42:10 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1pZ4SGZW_SQ

thanks, yup that def. sounds like studio


Title: Re: What happened to the guy who heard studio versions of...
Post by: Neemo on November 24, 2006, 03:16:34 PM
Nah, this guy isn't a noob, he is a reputable poster. ?Besides, what is so far fetched about the story anyway? ?GNR music coming from the company that is releasing the album?

And yes, I remember he called the next day and basically they confirmed it did happen. ? :peace:

they didn't confirm anything .... they said stuff is played all the time there so they were unsure what it was or who played it


Title: Re: What happened to the guy who heard studio versions of...
Post by: Demon Wolf on November 24, 2006, 03:19:21 PM
Seems legit to me. An awful lot of hassle to fake it all, I'm thinking it's real.

Here's to Chinese Democracy 2006!  :beer:


Title: Re: What happened to the guy who heard studio versions of...
Post by: Lucky on November 24, 2006, 03:28:22 PM
Seems legit to me. An awful lot of hassle to fake it all, I'm thinking it's real.

Here's to Chinese Democracy 2006! :beer:

this is the internet.
awfull lot of lifeless loosers around...
its bullshit.


Title: Re: What happened to the guy who heard studio versions of...
Post by: SLCPUNK on November 24, 2006, 06:08:11 PM
How anybody could listen to that mess and say it was "studio" was beyond me.


Title: Re: What happened to the guy who heard studio versions of...
Post by: CheapJon on November 24, 2006, 06:16:23 PM
How anybody could listen to that mess and say it was "studio" was beyond me.

maybe it's because we really really want it to be studio we believe that or we can hear a difference


Title: Re: What happened to the guy who heard studio versions of...
Post by: fixintodie on November 24, 2006, 06:25:06 PM
He was brutally murdered under suspicious circumstances.


Title: Re: What happened to the guy who heard studio versions of...
Post by: benchiefjr on November 24, 2006, 06:32:47 PM
He was brutally murdered under suspicious circumstances.
Death by Merck?


Title: Re: What happened to the guy who heard studio versions of...
Post by: nonlinear on November 24, 2006, 06:38:28 PM
I don't usually subscribe to the bullshit rumors that have flooded the boards over the last six months or so, but this one I do beleive is real.  I haven't listened to the clips in a while, but the lyrics sounded much better than the live versions we have (hitting higher notes, etc.) and the guitars were different.  Also, several people from the boards called the building in question and verified that it is common for them to be blasting LOUD music from the balcony where the guy heard it from.  It would just be so unbeleivable that this guy finds this acutal building, video/audio records it, spends 3059784357843 hours doctoring up live mixes and then reducing them again to sound like a crappy cell phone, and then uploading them here.  And then to top it all off, people from the boards call people working the reception in the building (it was more than one receptionist, actually) and they verify that it is common for music to be played up there. 

it is not a fake.


Title: Re: What happened to the guy who heard studio versions of...
Post by: cybercurves on November 24, 2006, 06:41:10 PM
It was real, otherwise he woudn't have gone through so much trouble to proove that it wasn't false. 


Title: Re: What happened to the guy who heard studio versions of...
Post by: chineseroses on November 24, 2006, 06:42:04 PM
He was brutally murdered under suspicious circumstances.
Death by Merck?

he was Merked.


Title: Re: What happened to the guy who heard studio versions of...
Post by: polluxlm on November 24, 2006, 06:45:12 PM
I can't even hear that it is the blues. How can a recording be that bad?


Title: Re: What happened to the guy who heard studio versions of...
Post by: CheapJon on November 24, 2006, 06:59:17 PM
I can't even hear that it is the blues. How can a recording be that bad?

can you not hear "i don't know just what i should do, everywhere i go i see you" in this clip? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1pZ4SGZW_SQ

i think it's the "everywhere" that makes me belive this is studio : ok:


Title: Re: What happened to the guy who heard studio versions of...
Post by: SLCPUNK on November 24, 2006, 07:02:07 PM
How anybody could listen to that mess and say it was "studio" was beyond me.

maybe it's because we really really want it to be studio we believe that or we can hear a difference

Right..........if you listen long enough you'll hear anything. To me, it sounded like the song in the background, with static, wind, rain, and a blender making a drink. Sure it was the song, but there is no honest way somebody could say "Oh yea man, that is 'studio'".


Title: Re: What happened to the guy who heard studio versions of...
Post by: nonlinear on November 24, 2006, 07:04:25 PM
you can hear it much better in the audio files that he took directly from his phone.

Plus, you still have the receptionist evidence  :hihi:


Title: Re: What happened to the guy who heard studio versions of...
Post by: Lucky on November 24, 2006, 07:26:28 PM
if thats what makes you happy people...
but its a serious bunch of bullshit.


Title: Re: What happened to the guy who heard studio versions of...
Post by: Gagarin on November 24, 2006, 07:37:32 PM
you can hear it much better in the audio files that he took directly from his phone.

Plus, you still have the receptionist evidence? :hihi:

Why doesn't he post those?

Still sounds like Boston 02 to me.


Title: Re: What happened to the guy who heard studio versions of...
Post by: Acquiesce on November 24, 2006, 08:27:54 PM
How anybody could listen to that mess and say it was "studio" was beyond me.

That's exactly what I was going to say. It is impossible to tell in that clip.

I personally think the whole story was a bunch of BS.


Title: Re: What happened to the guy who heard studio versions of...
Post by: kever20 on November 25, 2006, 02:22:31 AM
I don't usually subscribe to the bullshit rumors that have flooded the boards over the last six months or so, but this one I do beleive is real.? I haven't listened to the clips in a while, but the lyrics sounded much better than the live versions we have (hitting higher notes, etc.) and the guitars were different.? Also, several people from the boards called the building in question and verified that it is common for them to be blasting LOUD music from the balcony where the guy heard it from.? It would just be so unbeleivable that this guy finds this acutal building, video/audio records it, spends 3059784357843 hours doctoring up live mixes and then reducing them again to sound like a crappy cell phone, and then uploading them here.? And then to top it all off, people from the boards call people working the reception in the building (it was more than one receptionist, actually) and they verify that it is common for music to be played up there.?

it is not a fake.
Not to argue the authenticity of the clip, but anyone can put enough background noise over Boston '02 and claim that it's studio. Why, people still seem to think the clips from that commercial were studio versions, even though it's never been confirmed. I'd be willing to take some static hiss and speaker-blowout noises and street noise and put it over those live tracks. I blare em from my little Dodge Neon all the time, and it sounds damn good when I'm standing by the car in a parking lot... Who knows?

And of course, we can't necessarily believe Geffen management... People say things all the time. It might've happened. But if it was really true, I'd have thought it would merit some news somewhere other than a fanboard on the internet.


Title: Re: What happened to the guy who heard studio versions of...
Post by: polluxlm on November 25, 2006, 02:32:40 AM
Man that Boston clip gives me the chills. Hope it sounds like that on the album.


Title: Re: What happened to the guy who heard studio versions of...
Post by: Mama Kin on November 25, 2006, 03:14:20 AM
How did you he prove he called Geffen? Did he record the call?


Title: Re: What happened to the guy who heard studio versions of...
Post by: killingvector on November 25, 2006, 03:40:47 AM
The guy went about his investigation the wrong way. Simply calling up a receptionist or marketing lackey and explaining that you happen to hear something coming out of the window as you walked by wouldn't exactly compel them to find out what exactly was played.

We will never know what was going on in that building. Even if we did, it would have no effect on the wait. It is still laborious with increasingly foggy prospects for 2006.

Nice story though.


Title: Re: What happened to the guy who heard studio versions of...
Post by: Bandita on November 25, 2006, 03:58:20 AM
http://www.heretodaygonetohell.com/board/index.php?topic=36220.0

here is the original thread-


Title: Re: What happened to the guy who heard studio versions of...
Post by: kollemann on November 25, 2006, 05:20:39 AM
It was a fake.....


Title: Re: What happened to the guy who heard studio versions of...
Post by: slash2001 on November 25, 2006, 05:56:42 AM
I can't even hear that it is the blues. How can a recording be that bad?

can you not hear "i don't know just what i should do, everywhere i go i see you" in this clip? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1pZ4SGZW_SQ

i think it's the "everywhere" that makes me belive this is studio : ok:

Yup same here, Ive never heard him sing the little "everywhere" bit as good as that, so I believe it to be true : ok: :peace:


Title: Re: What happened to the guy who heard studio versions of...
Post by: CheapJon on November 25, 2006, 07:34:40 AM
It was a fake.....

oh the insider has spoken :rofl:


Title: Re: What happened to the guy who heard studio versions of...
Post by: MrMojoRisin on November 25, 2006, 07:59:07 AM
fake fake fake.....


Title: Re: What happened to the guy who heard studio versions of...
Post by: November_Rain on November 25, 2006, 08:18:50 AM
his name is Mr Vics, posts more at MYGNR, you can find it there.

he's genuine.
yep,he?s not a liar and he?s not a negative whore who posts sh?t either.Miss bomb and me have known him for a long time.Now,he could have been wrong but he didn?t invent that story to fool with us.


Title: Re: What happened to the guy who heard studio versions of...
Post by: michaelvincent on November 25, 2006, 11:23:46 AM
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yup that def. sounds like studio

You people are insane if you really believe you can make any sort of accurate judgement of that noise.


Title: Re: What happened to the guy who heard studio versions of...
Post by: nonlinear on November 25, 2006, 02:12:33 PM
How did you he prove he called Geffen? Did he record the call?

Several different people from the board called and yes, it was recorded.

like I said, I don\'t beleive most of the bullshit rumors that fly around on these boards, but this one I do buy.  there are too many lines of evidence for this to be fake.


Title: Re: What happened to the guy who heard studio versions of...
Post by: Bartlet on November 25, 2006, 07:40:01 PM
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yup that def. sounds like studio

You people are insane if you really believe you can make any sort of accurate judgement of that noise.



i agree with that,l you cant tell if it is studio. but that doesnt tell us its fake. ive no opinion there, personally.


Title: Re: What happened to the guy who heard studio versions of...
Post by: EstrangedReality on November 25, 2006, 10:24:59 PM
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yup that def. sounds like studio

You people are insane if you really believe you can make any sort of accurate judgement of that noise.

I can hear it perfectly fine. I don't get what the big deal is. Maybe you just need a better sound system on your computer. The vocals were centralized when I played it and I could make it all out very well. And having heard the song literally thousands of times in all its various live incarnations, I know there's no existing bootleg or soundboard recording with the vocals sounding like that during the "youuu" bit. It's very clearly studio.

And MrVics has a strong reputation and the receptionist at Geffen said music is played from the balcony all the time. He recorded the conversation.

Think about it. If he was lying about this, that means he'd have to have called up Geffen beforehand, asked them where music is played from (hoping they actually do play music outside, and why would anyone ever assume this?), and then fabricated a story about hearing the music from a balcony on the side of the building.

It's real. Deal with it.


Title: Re: What happened to the guy who heard studio versions of...
Post by: MrMojoRisin on November 25, 2006, 10:35:46 PM
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yup that def. sounds like studio

You people are insane if you really believe you can make any sort of accurate judgement of that noise.

I can hear it perfectly fine. I don't get what the big deal is. Maybe you just need a better sound system on your computer. The vocals were centralized when I played it and I could make it all out very well. And having heard the song literally thousands of times in all its various live incarnations, I know there's no existing bootleg or soundboard recording with the vocals sounding like that during the "youuu" bit. It's very clearly studio.

And MrVics has a strong reputation and the receptionist at Geffen said music is played from the balcony all the time. He recorded the conversation.

Think about it. If he was lying about this, that means he'd have to have called up Geffen beforehand, asked them where music is played from (hoping they actually do play music outside, and why would anyone ever assume this?), and then fabricated a story about hearing the music from a balcony on the side of the building.

It's real. Deal with it.

fake fake fake.... you want to buy some swampland in florida?


Title: Re: What happened to the guy who heard studio versions of...
Post by: misterbrownstone on November 25, 2006, 10:50:22 PM
its bullcrap...
and I've got some magical beans if you guys are willing to buy...
there's a sale on "get out of apocalypse free" cards...

Lucky has spoken ::).

i reckon it's real.  i've never heard vocals that clear before.


Title: Re: What happened to the guy who heard studio versions of...
Post by: MrMojoRisin on November 25, 2006, 11:24:39 PM
its bullcrap...
and I've got some magical beans if you guys are willing to buy...
there's a sale on "get out of apocalypse free" cards...

Lucky has spoken ::).

i reckon it's real.? i've never heard vocals that clear before.

then i reckon you have never heard any of the soundboards from 2002


Title: Re: What happened to the guy who heard studio versions of...
Post by: misterbrownstone on November 25, 2006, 11:27:25 PM
its bullcrap...
and I've got some magical beans if you guys are willing to buy...
there's a sale on "get out of apocalypse free" cards...

Lucky has spoken ::).

i reckon it's real.? i've never heard vocals that clear before.

then i reckon you have never heard any of the soundboards from 2002

i reckon i have...none of 'em sound like that.  i've got (nearly if not) all the soundboards from '02.


Title: Re: What happened to the guy who heard studio versions of...
Post by: MrMojoRisin on November 25, 2006, 11:32:06 PM
its bullcrap...
and I've got some magical beans if you guys are willing to buy...
there's a sale on "get out of apocalypse free" cards...

Lucky has spoken ::).

i reckon it's real.? i've never heard vocals that clear before.

then i reckon you have never heard any of the soundboards from 2002

i reckon i have...none of 'em sound like that.? i've got (nearly if not) all the soundboards from '02.

then you must not hear very clearly, you cant tell me thats a "studio cut" recorded by some dipshit outside the geffen offices...? ?I rekon....


Title: Re: What happened to the guy who heard studio versions of...
Post by: misterbrownstone on November 25, 2006, 11:34:05 PM
its bullcrap...
and I've got some magical beans if you guys are willing to buy...
there's a sale on "get out of apocalypse free" cards...

Lucky has spoken ::).

i reckon it's real.? i've never heard vocals that clear before.

then i reckon you have never heard any of the soundboards from 2002

i reckon i have...none of 'em sound like that.? i've got (nearly if not) all the soundboards from '02.

then you must not hear very clearly, you cant tell me thats a "studio cut" recorded by some dipshit outside the geffen offices...? ?I rekon....

because you can obviously tell it's fake...while ignoring all the facts that say it's true...


Title: Re: What happened to the guy who heard studio versions of...
Post by: MrMojoRisin on November 25, 2006, 11:40:55 PM
its bullcrap...
and I've got some magical beans if you guys are willing to buy...
there's a sale on "get out of apocalypse free" cards...

Lucky has spoken ::).

i reckon it's real.? i've never heard vocals that clear before.

then i reckon you have never heard any of the soundboards from 2002

i reckon i have...none of 'em sound like that.? i've got (nearly if not) all the soundboards from '02.

then you must not hear very clearly, you cant tell me thats a "studio cut" recorded by some dipshit outside the geffen offices...? ?I rekon....

because you can obviously tell it's fake...while ignoring all the facts that say it's true...

your right. Its a studio track!


Title: Re: What happened to the guy who heard studio versions of...
Post by: CAFC Nick on November 26, 2006, 06:38:29 AM
I thought it was studio.


Title: Re: What happened to the guy who heard studio versions of...
Post by: Lucky on November 26, 2006, 06:46:41 AM
its bullcrap...
and I've got some magical beans if you guys are willing to buy...
there's a sale on "get out of apocalypse free" cards...

Lucky has spoken ::).

i reckon it's real. i've never heard vocals that clear before.

nah the audio is to shitty to conclude if it's a real deal or not,
but the scenario is highly unlikely...


Title: Re: What happened to the guy who heard studio versions of...
Post by: Mr. Redman on November 26, 2006, 11:14:59 AM
Mr. Vics was not lying on this. He sent me the picture from geffen studios to my cell phone.

He's never lied before, and he wouldn't do something like this just to get attention unlike RedEurope.


Title: Re: What happened to the guy who heard studio versions of...
Post by: flicknn on November 26, 2006, 11:16:59 AM
Mr. Vics was not lying on this. He sent me the picture from geffen studios to my cell phone.

He's never lied before, and he wouldn't do something like this just to get attention unlike RedEurope.



so upload the picture for us


Title: Re: What happened to the guy who heard studio versions of...
Post by: polluxlm on November 26, 2006, 11:20:53 AM
Mr. Vics was not lying on this. He sent me the picture from geffen studios to my cell phone.

He's never lied before, and he wouldn't do something like this just to get attention unlike RedEurope.

I don't think he's lying either, but why can't he provide a better recording? I mean, fine, he gave us a shitty feed from his cellphone speaker, but why does he have to talk over the recording? We know it's The Blues man, be quiet. And shouldn't it be possible to extract the recording directly from the cellphone instead of doing these shortcuts?


Title: Re: What happened to the guy who heard studio versions of...
Post by: misterbrownstone on November 26, 2006, 01:20:24 PM
Mr. Vics was not lying on this. He sent me the picture from geffen studios to my cell phone.

He's never lied before, and he wouldn't do something like this just to get attention unlike RedEurope.



so upload the picture for us

here's something:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=jS-zGruupGs


Title: Re: What happened to the guy who heard studio versions of...
Post by: michaelvincent on November 26, 2006, 02:23:00 PM
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I can hear it perfectly fine. I don't get what the big deal is. Maybe you just need a better sound system on your computer.

No I'm pretty sure that's not the problem, I have a fairly decent studio setup in my spare bedroom and the speakers are just fine. The problem is that the recording is a piece of shit and I think that anyone here that swears up and down that it's a studio recording is seriously delusional and is so hard up for any shred of hope that this album might actually be finished that they will convince themselves of anything.

It might be studio, it might not be...it might be fake. No one here is ever going to know for sure because the recording is shit and you can't possibly make an accurate call one way or the other.

It could have been a recording of Axl farting into a mic with a distortion pedal on it and there would be 'Chinese Democracy starts now i can feel it !!11one!' cries abounding.


Title: Re: What happened to the guy who heard studio versions of...
Post by: Mr. Redman on November 26, 2006, 07:50:20 PM
(http://img245.imageshack.us/img245/6743/geffentx7.jpg)


Title: Re: What happened to the guy who heard studio versions of...
Post by: -Jack- on November 26, 2006, 08:06:23 PM
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I can hear it perfectly fine. I don't get what the big deal is. Maybe you just need a better sound system on your computer.

No I'm pretty sure that's not the problem, I have a fairly decent studio setup in my spare bedroom and the speakers are just fine. The problem is that the recording is a piece of shit and I think that anyone here that swears up and down that it's a studio recording is seriously delusional and is so hard up for any shred of hope that this album might actually be finished that they will convince themselves of anything.

It might be studio, it might not be...it might be fake. No one here is ever going to know for sure because the recording is shit and you can't possibly make an accurate call one way or the other.

It could have been a recording of Axl farting into a mic with a distortion pedal on it and there would be 'Chinese Democracy starts now i can feel it !!11one!' cries abounding.

Exactly.

Personally I feel its fake. But it may not be.

No way you can tell based off those recordings.


Title: Re: What happened to the guy who heard studio versions of...
Post by: Acquiesce on November 26, 2006, 08:38:36 PM
How does that photo prove that he heard those songs?


Title: Re: What happened to the guy who heard studio versions of...
Post by: EstrangedReality on November 26, 2006, 10:07:11 PM
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I can hear it perfectly fine. I don't get what the big deal is. Maybe you just need a better sound system on your computer.

No I'm pretty sure that's not the problem, I have a fairly decent studio setup in my spare bedroom and the speakers are just fine. The problem is that the recording is a piece of shit and I think that anyone here that swears up and down that it's a studio recording is seriously delusional and is so hard up for any shred of hope that this album might actually be finished that they will convince themselves of anything.

It might be studio, it might not be...it might be fake. No one here is ever going to know for sure because the recording is shit and you can't possibly make an accurate call one way or the other.

It could have been a recording of Axl farting into a mic with a distortion pedal on it and there would be 'Chinese Democracy starts now i can feel it !!11one!' cries abounding.

I wouldn't make assumptions like that. I'm the last person in the world right now who is overly optimistic about an '06 release. But I can tell that it's studio from that clip. I can hear it perfectly. If you can't, then that's your problem, I guess. I'm not *trying* to hear it, I *CAN* hear it. I played the clip numerous times. It is on repeat, you can make out the music very clearly. But whatever. Believe what you will.


Title: Re: What happened to the guy who heard studio versions of...
Post by: tHeElEcTrIcSiNtAr on November 27, 2006, 08:28:40 AM
I believe that it was studio. Axl has never sounded so crisp on a live recording that I have heard, either in '02 or '06.


Title: Re: What happened to the guy who heard studio versions of...
Post by: CVBTank on November 27, 2006, 02:17:15 PM
There is a website that sells a cleaned up version of the live recording of The Blues, so it really is to hard to tell whats real and what isn't.

I don't know the backstory to this "video" (Which really proves nothing more then he has a recording of the blues on his Razor).  Why didn't he e-mail the video to himself and post it properly?  Its conspicious.   


Title: Re: What happened to the guy who heard studio versions of...
Post by: cybercurves on November 27, 2006, 03:45:59 PM
He HEARD the songs!!!  The only recording device he had on him at the time was his cell phone.  So he at least pointed his phone towards the building and hit the video record button in hopes of capturing the audio as well.  The problem was that he couldn't get the finished recording off his cell phone to the computer.  I sure as hell can't do it.  In fact most phones don't allow video recording transfered to a PC.  So he took his camera and video taped the audio portion of the cell phone.  That's why the sound is so crappy. 

BUT.... he DID verify something in ONE of the studio recordings he heard which has NEVER been performed live.  So when we hear the official finished version of that song, we will know for sure he wasn't bull shitting.


Title: Re: What happened to the guy who heard studio versions of...
Post by: badobessionwithaxl on November 27, 2006, 04:20:23 PM
This thread hurts my brain.
 
True false true false true false....  ???

Well I choose to believe it.. why not?
The CD will be our only way of figuring that out I suppose.


Title: Re: What happened to the guy who heard studio versions of...
Post by: Six Strings on November 27, 2006, 04:44:31 PM
And what exactly is the fuckin' difference no matter either true or false? If we don't have the CD nothing happens...


Title: Re: What happened to the guy who heard studio versions of...
Post by: polluxlm on November 27, 2006, 05:54:52 PM
Can aynone tell me what part of the song that clip is from? I can't make out shit, except that it's Axl.


Title: Re: What happened to the guy who heard studio versions of...
Post by: Demon Wolf on November 27, 2006, 05:56:31 PM
The Blues. Listen closely and you'll hear the "everywhere I go I see you" in the end of the clip. His voice sounds good.


Title: Re: What happened to the guy who heard studio versions of...
Post by: Lucky on November 27, 2006, 06:00:02 PM
The Blues. Listen closely and you'll hear the "everywhere I go I see you" in the end of the clip. His voice sounds good.

you got to be kidding me...
most of us has trouble hearing anything at all, but you people are so convinced that its a studio...

naive...


Title: Re: What happened to the guy who heard studio versions of...
Post by: polluxlm on November 27, 2006, 06:00:39 PM
Ok.......I'm hearing more of a "double heart" than "everywhere I go". Is it just me or is the part sung in a different melody? I can hear it's Axl in the studio, but I just can't hear it's the blues.


And I'm hearing alot of "ahahaha". There's not any of that in that part originally. This has to be the worst recording of anything ever.


Title: Re: What happened to the guy who heard studio versions of...
Post by: creepingvines on November 27, 2006, 06:36:30 PM
i think it's the "everywhere" that makes me belive this is studio : ok:
i think the best known recording at the time this was made was probably boston 02, right? (wrong?)  if you pull the two videos up together and compare you can tell its definitely not boston-- the "everywhere" is different for sure.  that doesn't necessarily make it a studio version though.  and, those of you saying it doesn't matter are right too, what difference does it make if its real?  and come to think of it why am i spending so much time and effort on analyzing this?  oh yeah i'm procrastinating.  finals must be right around the corner : ok:


Title: Re: What happened to the guy who heard studio versions of...
Post by: guns_n_motley on November 27, 2006, 06:44:39 PM
whether or not its studio, Ive NEVER heard axl sing that that crisp


Title: Re: What happened to the guy who heard studio versions of...
Post by: EstrangedReality on November 27, 2006, 11:26:35 PM
The Blues. Listen closely and you'll hear the "everywhere I go I see you" in the end of the clip. His voice sounds good.

you got to be kidding me...
most of us has trouble hearing anything at all, but you people are so convinced that its a studio...

naive...


I can hear every single word, very clearly.

How is it being naive when you can hear something?


Title: Re: What happened to the guy who heard studio versions of...
Post by: michaelvincent on November 28, 2006, 12:19:36 PM
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I wouldn't make assumptions like that. I'm the last person in the world right now who is overly optimistic about an '06 release. But I can tell that it's studio from that clip. I can hear it perfectly. If you can't, then that's your problem, I guess. I'm not *trying* to hear it, I *CAN* hear it. I played the clip numerous times. It is on repeat, you can make out the music very clearly. But whatever. Believe what you will.

I've gone back and listened to the track/checked out the youtube video, with and without headphones. And what I believe is that you either a) have supersonic  hearing or b) are 100% insane. The only thing you can make out clearly is that the quality is clearly shit. You can swear up and down that you *CAN* hear that it's studio but you are just fooling yourself.


Title: Re: What happened to the guy who heard studio versions of...
Post by: fixintodie on November 28, 2006, 12:23:07 PM
What difference does this make to anything? Someone please explain.


Title: Re: What happened to the guy who heard studio versions of...
Post by: Adam_Guill on November 28, 2006, 12:27:17 PM
i can make out the last half of the video. its that ending part of the song where he's all like whoa oh oh oh oh oh oh... oh oh. which conclusively proves beyond a shadow of  a doubt that this guy, this caddilac of men, can point cell phones at a faceless office parks and obtain grainy footage of unreleased rock ballads. which, by any one's definition, is a skill.

so maybe it is studio, the vocals do seem mighty crisp in the five seconds you can actually make them out, but maybe they aren't, which is also good. because either way, the only thing that would prove was that axl recorded the song, which i was pretty sure of anyway

good day sires

i'm not a crook


Title: Re: What happened to the guy who heard studio versions of...
Post by: CAFC Nick on November 28, 2006, 12:34:08 PM
Im certain thats studio.

From that clip, I can hear "what I should do...Everywhere I go I see you"


Title: Re: What happened to the guy who heard studio versions of...
Post by: oneway23 on November 28, 2006, 12:47:53 PM
Matters little if we do not have it...


Title: Re: What happened to the guy who heard studio versions of...
Post by: Demon Wolf on November 28, 2006, 02:58:24 PM
The Blues. Listen closely and you'll hear the "everywhere I go I see you" in the end of the clip. His voice sounds good.

you got to be kidding me...
most of us has trouble hearing anything at all, but you people are so convinced that its a studio...

naive...


Listen to the last six-seven seconds. If you can't make out the "everywhere I go I see you", your speakers must be broken.  :confused:


Title: Re: What happened to the guy who heard studio versions of...
Post by: ironfin on November 28, 2006, 07:24:14 PM
Did he ever upload it from his phone? Surely that would have been better quality than actually filming it playing from his phone


Title: Re: What happened to the guy who heard studio versions of...
Post by: Ellroy on November 28, 2006, 08:37:10 PM
I believed (and still believe) the guy. He seemed genuinely excited and eager to share everything he could about the experience. The clip he posted was hard to hear, but when you can make out Axl's voice it is different from any version of the Blues we have, be it live or studio from the Boston promo. He is a reputable poster and described in depth the songs he heard. When the album comes out, if the songs are not as he described them (the high Axl background vocals at the end of Maddy, etc.) then I will no longer believe him. Until that happens, it is still a reasonable story from a reasonable guy.


Title: Re: What happened to the guy who heard studio versions of...
Post by: polluxlm on November 28, 2006, 08:42:31 PM
Yeah, I'm hearing it now. Definitely studio. Sounds fuckin amazing. Alot more heartfelt than the boots. You couple that clip with the Boston promo and you got a definite classic.


Release the damn album Axl, it's a masterpiece!!!


Title: Re: What happened to the guy who heard studio versions of...
Post by: fixintodie on November 28, 2006, 08:59:34 PM
To be honest I've never even heard this guys clips. If anyone wants to PM me, appreciate it.


Title: Re: What happened to the guy who heard studio versions of...
Post by: Butch Français on November 29, 2006, 07:14:55 AM
I assume he got assassinated.


Title: Re: What happened to the guy who heard studio versions of...
Post by: slash2001 on November 29, 2006, 07:48:37 AM
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I wouldn't make assumptions like that. I'm the last person in the world right now who is overly optimistic about an '06 release. But I can tell that it's studio from that clip. I can hear it perfectly. If you can't, then that's your problem, I guess. I'm not *trying* to hear it, I *CAN* hear it. I played the clip numerous times. It is on repeat, you can make out the music very clearly. But whatever. Believe what you will.

I've gone back and listened to the track/checked out the youtube video, with and without headphones. And what I believe is that you either a) have supersonic? hearing or b) are 100% insane. The only thing you can make out clearly is that the quality is clearly shit. You can swear up and down that you *CAN* hear that it's studio but you are just fooling yourself.

Sorry but I heard it first time I attempted to listen to it and have listened to it many times since, and I practise with my band 5 nights a week in a small garage and still havent got around to getting earplugs, so my hearing is no doubt far from perfect.  How can you not hear it?? its faint, its not in your face at all but if you cant hear the line "everywhere I go I see you" then sorry mate but I believe that 1- your can hear but your a doubter and are just saying you cant hear it to cauz havoc on the board which so many ppl seem to take so much joy in doing and/or 2- you have worse hearing than me and should really go to your doctor and get that checked out.

I can also hear parts of the guitar solo until he starts sayings "the blues studio" etc and cars drive by.

It is NOT a live clip, you could listen to every single live performance of The Blues and NEVER hear that line sound as gd as that.


Title: Re: What happened to the guy who heard studio versions of...
Post by: Lucky on November 29, 2006, 07:55:14 AM
Listen to the last six-seven seconds. If you can't make out the "everywhere I go I see you", your speakers must be broken. :confused:
I heard it since day one... I was commenting what the guy who posted before me had to say...
and it doesnt sound like studio, it sounds like someone bootlegged the show while sitting in a dish washer.


Title: Re: What happened to the guy who heard studio versions of...
Post by: michaelvincent on November 29, 2006, 09:17:04 AM
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Sorry but I heard it first time I attempted to listen to it and have listened to it many times since, and I practise with my band 5 nights a week in a small garage and still havent got around to getting earplugs, so my hearing is no doubt far from perfect.  How can you not hear it?? its faint, its not in your face at all but if you cant hear the line "everywhere I go I see you" then sorry mate but I believe that 1- your can hear but your a doubter and are just saying you cant hear it to cauz havoc on the board which so many ppl seem to take so much joy in doing and/or 2- you have worse hearing than me and should really go to your doctor and get that checked out.

I can also hear parts of the guitar solo until he starts sayings "the blues studio" etc and cars drive by.

It is NOT a live clip, you could listen to every single live performance of The Blues and NEVER hear that line sound as gd as that.


You live your lie and I'll live mine.


Title: Re: What happened to the guy who heard studio versions of...
Post by: russtcb on November 29, 2006, 02:04:22 PM
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Sorry but I heard it first time I attempted to listen to it and have listened to it many times since, and I practise with my band 5 nights a week in a small garage and still havent got around to getting earplugs, so my hearing is no doubt far from perfect.  How can you not hear it?? its faint, its not in your face at all but if you cant hear the line "everywhere I go I see you" then sorry mate but I believe that 1- your can hear but your a doubter and are just saying you cant hear it to cauz havoc on the board which so many ppl seem to take so much joy in doing and/or 2- you have worse hearing than me and should really go to your doctor and get that checked out.

I can also hear parts of the guitar solo until he starts sayings "the blues studio" etc and cars drive by.

It is NOT a live clip, you could listen to every single live performance of The Blues and NEVER hear that line sound as gd as that.


You live your lie and I'll live mine.

I only heard it once and couldn't hear shit. Maybe I'll come across it again and throw another listen at it. I didn't really concentrate on the last little bit that everyone keeps saying to listen to.


Title: Re: What happened to the guy who heard studio versions of...
Post by: CVBTank on November 30, 2006, 03:58:28 PM
I am telling you I have a version of this song where that line sounds just as clear.  This fact proves nothing one way or the other, but neither does the existence of a studio clip of this song.  As someone else already pointed out, we already could assume that this song had been recorded.


Title: Re: What happened to the guy who heard studio versions of...
Post by: jameslofton29 on November 30, 2006, 09:14:45 PM
we already could assume that this song had been recorded.
If it hasn't, we are in what George Bush would refer to as "deep doo-doo". :nervous:


Title: Re: What happened to the guy who heard studio versions of...
Post by: freedom78 on November 30, 2006, 11:38:57 PM
I can certainly hear the "everywhere I go..." but I honestly have no idea if it's studio or not.  One would have to wonder why Geffen would be blasting concert bootleg material, though.  And I do agree that the vocals sound "crisp" (well, as crisp as possible, considering it's a video of a cell phone playing audio of something from hundreds of feet away...). 


Title: Re: What happened to the guy who heard studio versions of...
Post by: kunzerd on December 01, 2006, 12:08:40 AM
he's at home, WASHING HIS TIGHTS!!!


Title: Re: What happened to the guy who heard studio versions of...
Post by: The Chad Cometh on December 01, 2006, 12:20:36 AM
Where does he get those wonderful toys?

The Blues is the one leak I haven't heard yet. A PM with some info about it would be muchly appreciated (Style, tempo etc.)