Here Today... Gone To Hell!

If anybody else is working at a music store please do a search to back me up on this.

At HMV Canada we have been made aware that the album is coming out on..

TUESDAY DECEMBER 19, 2006



Edit: Changed subject. /jarmo

if this is true...FUCK!!!!

awesome i will have a great christmas

WHY?! Whats so bad about having the album that we've been dying to hear, in less than a month!

Thats deffinetly a possible date, we'll see. I have to admit, I clicked this thread hoping for an official press release though, a little bummed.

well lets wait and see.... im sitting on the fence on this!!

 : ok:

dude, this is an HMV date, not Universal date.  change the fucking thread title.   :rant:

edit:  plus, some guy a few days ago posted this date from HMV.  HMV has had 49857249587 bullshit dates. 

If its true...holy sheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeit!

 : ok:

It came with the Universal Rep in a "buying" book today, Reps visit stores once a month to encourage Buyers to buy alot.

i meant ima good way man!!! ;)

OK, you will have to scan this and post it here if you want anyone to beleive it

Me too. I think the title is a bit misleading...

the Birtish Hmv say 18th (monday) but it says discontinued.

How would they know for sure if there hasn't been an official announcement..?

Could you scan in the info from the book or anything?

i want to beleive you man, but you will uderstand the fans have been subjected to false shit before, y'know.

so if it is in the book, then surely all the rest of the record stores should have the date also?

If this is true, I expect one today.... ?:peace:

Very interesting -- anyone else in retail get this ?

What other hints did we have at the 19th?

(and yeah, the thread title is misleading)

i want so hard to believe you!!! ?:crying:

time to start calling stores  :hihi:

Oh dear god please let this be true! :o

This guy isn't some person who looks like he would play  a joke on us.  He isn't like the usual rumor starters who only have 1-10 posts.  He has over 100.

The title is completely misleading. Universal hasn't confirmed a thing. This is just a rumor.

^^ AND, HMV is known for giving out bullshit release dates.  I don't beleive it for a second.

fuckin eh man!!!! wohashahaha

i call bullshit

And as he said, HMV got this release date in some book thing from Universal itself. ?If he's genuine.

why doesn't someone call an HMV?

im in Uk just now so stores are closed, anyone manne the phones yet!!!!!! telethon!!!! :hihi:

If crimson_joel is telling the truth then he will have no problem giving us the location and number of the HMV where he got this info so someone can verify.

was there a press release or anything to back this statement up ?
facts jack only is what i say,not hearsay anymore.

Crimson_Joel, can you give us some sort of scan of that buyer's thing you were talking about from the Universal rep?

I changed the topic since the info comes from yet another record store...



/jarmo

because HMV is NOT going to be how we find out the release date.   as mysteron said, the info will come from the band.   HMV has been doing this shit for years.

Yeah, but it's hearsay. We have no idea if that is the truth or not.

Isn't this the 2nd or 3rd "official" release date from HMV? And I thought albums came out in Europe on Mondays. Why do they have a Tuesday release date?

Edit: If Jarmo's OK with this thread, then it's definately false.

Edit 2: My bad. I didn't notice he said HMV Canada.

^Canada isn't in Europe.  :hihi:

Apparently this is HMV Canada

but we want to call a random HMV, in case he's answering the phones  :hihi:  They should all have the same book.

a press release would make more sense to this matter.

but maybe stores have to wait for a rep from universal comes in then valodate any upcoming releases?

it's not listed on the hmv website :-\

maybe HMV are being treated like the boy who cried wolf

, and also, maybe the 28th is when the press release will be detailing the relase date, rather than relase itself and HMV have jumped the gun and we aren't actually supposed to know.

hell, we aren't actually supposed to know anyhting :hihi:

At HMV we do a thing called "splits" a month in advance, basically it's head office wanting to know how many copies we want to order.

Today we got the splits for the end of December, and under December 19 is Guns N' Roses - Chinese Democracy...this comes directly from Universal.

cough.. Melodicrock.com said Decmeber 19 too cough*

Im sure Jarmo knows the date.
If this date true, topic will be delete soon.....

it wouldn't be on the website becasue the guy said he saw it in a book of upcoming release dates, i dont like being sucked in by rumours, but fuck, im hooked!!!!

Looking back over your past posts, there's no real reason not to believe you. Please by christ be telling the truth.

jarmo has already posted in this thread, so no deletion!

TO VERIFY:

Call an HMV anywhere in Canada...

Ask for the buyer...

Ask for today's splits and if Guns N' Roses is listed as December 19.

Cheers!

Could you possible get a copy and/or scan of this up?

That's why I think it's false.

Maybe it will come out on a monday in Europe, but Canada isn't in Europe... :rofl: ? Now THAT is hilarious! ?Canada gets no respect!

and if jarmo deleted it, everyone would believe it was true...

I guess the November 21 date was true because jarmo deleted topics on that ::)

your logic is flawed....

i have a raging clue. ?litteraly i do.

I really don't think that means anything.

you better have ordered loads then!

As far as I'm concerned, HMV (or any retailer can say what they want), but unless it comes from the band and/or management, don't get your hopes up.




/jarmo

Not that its the same, but I just called my local Best Buy and they have nothing.

Wouldn't all major stores get the same "buying book?"

so whos in canada and can call an hmv to verify this??

so your back from the gnr tour eh?? you lucky son of a gun!!! get to meet axl??

I suppose they would?!

I'm waiting on hold for the buyer at Market Mall in Calgary  :hihi:

EDIT:  got sick of being on hold, now on hold for buyer at Sunridge in Calgary

i would lay of jarmo, i think he is in the dark like the rest!..........m :rofl:aybe

But not necessarily at exactly the same time.

hey.... I work for HMV (Toronto, Ontario "dufferin Mall" feel free to call the location ...

We have Dec 19th as ther release date !!!

can anyone else please help me confirm this !!!

 :beer:

BTW: last Wed i checked and we had no info !!! I asked my store manager and he basically said "how the **** do i know" i dont put the listings on the data base"

I have reported earlier last week that HMV in West Edmonton Mall (in Edmonton) has a Dec 19th date as well.

December also make a bit of sense because the start of the tour was pushed back a month, so maybe the album suffererd the same fate......or am i looking too much into things :no:

and they are in LA at that time :yes:

Yeah that would make sense.  :yes:

on the same wavelength methinks!!!! : ok:


christ have i cracked the code :rofl:

I am not an insider by any means. ?But I can confirm that he is telling the truth. ?I have been told the same thing yesterday morning. ?And the guy at HMV wasn't bullshitting as he seemed genuinely excited about this news.

OK, I got through, I asked the woman about the 'splits" and she said "I already did mine."  I asked her if GNR was out on 19 December, and she said "I don't remember.  I only had one to amend."  Whaterver that means....

anyhow, someone else try calling (i'm at work and people in next office can hear me - NOT cool).

I was at an HMV in Halifax yesterday, and they actually had a spot for Chinese Democracy on the shelf saying "To be released Dec. 19"

It got me pretty excited. Might not mean anything, but I still believe the album will be out this year

They should have posters and shit by now...  :rant:

Our stores in Ontario
The following stores are open for business

Barrie
Georgian Mall
509 Bayfield Street, Unit# G004
(705) 739-8896

Bramalea
Bramalea City Centre
25 Peel Centre Drive
(905) 793-4488

Brampton
Trinity Common
180 Great Lakes Drive - Unit #155
(905) 458 2272

Burlington
Mapleview Mall
900 Maple Avenue
(905) 637-3446

Cambridge
Cambridge Centre
355 Hespeler Road
(519) 624-0228

Etobicoke
Sherway Gardens
25 The West Mall
(416) 620-6870

Guelph
Stone Road Mall
435 Stone Road
(519) 836-2991

Hamilton
Limeridge Mall
999 Upper Wentworth Street
(905) 385-6251

Kingston
Cataraqui Town Centre
945 Gardiners Road
(613) 384-8154

Kitchener
Fairview Park
2960 Kingsway Drive
(519) 894-9920

London
Masonville
Unit L126A, 1680 Richmond Street North
(519) 645-8888

White Oaks
Unit 109, 1105 Wellington Road South
(519) 649-7444

Markham
Markville Shopping Centre
5000 Hwy 7 East
(905) 415-8641

Mississauga
Square One Shopping Centre
100 City Centre Drive
(905) 566-8742

Square One II
Square One Shopping Centre
100 City Centre Drive Unit 1-144
(905) 615-9817

Erin Mills Town Centre
5100 Erin Mills Parkway
(905) 820-7570

Nepean
Bayshore Shopping Centre
100 Bayshore Drive
(613) 829-4409

Merivale Place
1651 Merivale Road
(613) 226 9190

Newmarket
Upper Canada Mall
17600 Yonge Street
(905) 830-9095

Oakville
Oakville Town Centre II
200 North Service Road
(905) 842-7411

Oakville Place
240 Leighland Avenue
(905) 842-1727

Orleans
Place D'Orleans
110 Place D'Orleans Drive
(613) 841-7358

Oshawa
Oshawa Centre
419 King Street, W.
(905) 404-8488

Ottawa
Rideau Centre
50 Rideau Street
(613) 230-7320

Sparks Street Mall
211-215 Sparks Street
(613) 233-5483

St. Laurent Shopping Centre
1200 St. Laurent Blvd.
(613) 744-4931

Pickering
Pickering Town Centre
1355 Kingston Road
(905) 839-4435

Richmond Hill
Hillcrest Mall
9350 Yonge Street
Richmond Hill, ON L4C 5G2
(905) 883-0282

Scarborough
Scarborough Town Centre
300 Borough Drive
(416) 296-8880

St. Catharines
Pen Centre
221 Glendale Avenue
(905) 685-8756

Thornhill
Promenade
1 Promenade Circle
(905) 731-5805

Thunder Bay
Intercity Shopping Centre
1000 Fort William Road
(807) 622-5505

Toronto
Eglinton & Laird
65 Wickstead Ave Unit #100
(416) 429-4825

Toronto Eaton Centre
260 Yonge Street
(416) 340-9801

Yorkdale Mall
3401 Dufferin Street
(416) 784-5110

Fairview Mall
1800 Sheppard Avenue, E.
(416) 499-2004

Dufferin Mall
900 Dufferin Street
(416) 530-4375

Holt Renfrew Centre
50 Bloor Street W.
(416) 324-9979

First Canadian Place
100 King Street, W
(416) 364-6815

Queen Street
272-274 Queen Street, W.
(416) 595-2828

Toronto Superstore
333 Yonge Street
1-800-567-8HMV

Yonge-Eglinton
2300 Yonge St.
(416) 488-7541

Vaughan
Vaughan Mills
#1 Bass Pro Mills Drive
Unit #153
(905) 760-9034

Waterloo
Campus Court
150 University Avenue
(519) 746-8465

Windsor
Devonshire Mall
3100 Howard Avenue
(519) 972-3111

Woodbridge
East Woodbridge Centre
3900 Hwy 7 West
(905) 264-1796


^My store is Dufferin Mall

well, i guess it comes down to whether or not this info is from universal or is just another in a long line of bullshit HMV release dates.

I call bullshit, because if it was from Universal we would be hearing about this from chains other than just HMV.

just got off the phone with my HMV and they said nothing is listed :P

did you ask if the buyer guy had been or about splits? where was the HMV you callled US?

call the "Dufferin Mall" location .. i saw it wirh my own eyes

THeh just guess in those computers when the 19th comes close and if there is no word it will then give a date in jan. This is what they do it doesnt mean shit

hamilton ontario canada, he checked his book and nothing was there

I called about "the splits" and she said she only had one ammendment, meaning that they prolly had it previously listed as 19 Dec (people were saying this last week, too).

The thing we all have to remember is that this is an internal HMV date, not a Universal date.  This date has not been set or confirmed by GNR or Universal. 

It's just another bullshit rumor.

i am so sick of every other thread being about fake release datesssssssssss
 :-\
freeze me until the cd comes out, kthanks.

my understanding of the thread at the beginning was that HMV get a list of dates for upcomig release from the supplier (universal) thus not being a HMV rumour, but a rumour created by the dude who started the thread, the title was changed by jarmo, but the guy was failry adamant that it was a date set by universal

Jarmo is right, although December 19 is the "announced" date - Universal could merely be using this date to figure out how many copies a store wants to order.

They could easily ship the albums a week earlier, and tell stores to put them out. Thus, they would "magically" appear when you walk into the store without prior knowledge....

This at least is a stronger rumor than usual. If we believe the original poster, this info came to HMV via Universal. Anyone wanna check some other record stores?

Yea, but I think the guy is confused.  If it was set by Universal, every fucking store worldwide would have this release date.  Combine that with HMV's nasty habit of setting their own release dates, and you've got one confused-ass employee and a huge fucking bullshit rumor!

I just called a mall in Ontario, When I asked the women for a Guns' N Roses album,she said ?"Is it Chinese something?" Im like

"yes Chinese Democracy" ?Shes like "nope not in the system yet sorry"

Dammmmit ?:crying:

I think I'll watch Mythbusters now... they're trying to blow up a giant candy. ?:confused:

It IS NOT IN THE COMPUTER YET! New Splits only appear in the computer after the orders have gone through...

ALSO - Best Buy and larger chains have no control over their buying. At HMV they "reccomend" a certain amount and the buyer at each store can "amend" the amounts in regards to their market.

This info is coming straight from Universal, I'm sure somebody at an HMV can get their hands on one of the split sheets.

what makes this date any more special than the other 10 dates set by HMV this year ::) from what i understand....they guesstimate dates to get a jump on sales figures

also for the record it's not listed on Universal or geffen or gnr's officail websites either

we should get mythbusters to figure out the CD myth :rofl: true, plausible or busted? :hihi:

CJ....yo the dude looked in a book man not on his computer :peace:

yeah and also by my understanding HMV and Virgin are much much bigger stores than best buy? we dont have best buy in the UK, but we got those two. so can i assume they would get info like this first?

maybe he had an old book??

Bald guy from lost: why do find it so hard to believe jack?

Jack: why do find it so easy :rant:


 :rofl:

I Can.... easily !!! ?but i dont have a scanner ..but i can easily get the split sheet

Christ on a mule!!

This is (if correct) NOT an HMV date. ?It's a guy that works at HMV that saw documentation from Universal.

Set in stone? ?No.
Publically announcted? No.
In HMV's computer yet? ?No.

Read the posts. ?

How bout a camera phone or regular camera?

Digital camera? Mobile phone?

well i got a sony ericson and a pantec film camera..not exactley digital  :no:

As others have said, there will be an official announcement from the band.  Why would HMV Canada know before everyone else? 

But, if it should indeed drop on that date is would be the best birthday present ever as I turn 30 the next day.  I was 14 when UYI came out.  Been waiting more than half my life for an album of new material!

our hmv has cds there that says "chinese democracy - due dec. 19th"

btw this is halifax, NS.

There must be SOMEONE on the forum that works nearby.  If not - do you live in Mississauga! :)

What part of Mysteron's post the other day didn't you understand?

He clearly stated the release date will come from the band and/or mangagement. :peace:

This is Axl's way of sticking it to the US for low ticket sales. ?It's an HMV-only release!

Universal makes the decision...this is coming from them if it's true.

yeah, like the guys in the band are the only ones in the universe that kow the date, c'mon. the date will leak. dont be naive

Release date won't be a rumour anymore when you see it here : http://www.gunsnroses.com/ it's not that hard to understand !

So let's wait 8)

In which the band/and or management would announce the decided release date. :peace:

ping.

If true:  :love: :yes:

Remember Bumblefoot saying that it was the label holding things up? There is a very good chance that this could be legit. Multiple confirmations, albeit within the same chain. Now would be a good time to check other chains.

Exactly. ?Calling every HMV on the planet to ask them about some "split-sheet" is silly. ?Even if this is true we still have a month to wait. ?We have been told clearly that official news will come from GNR only and we haven't heard it from them, yet. :peace:

but you must surely admit that the release datw will leak!?

But then we've been told a lot of things from official sources that have turned out not to be true as well. Maybe for once we'll be pleased that they were wrong.

Remember Bumblefoot saying that it was the label holding things up? There is a very good chance that this could be legit. Multiple confirmations, albeit within the same chain. Now would be a good time to check other chains.


when did bbf say this?

exactly, axl said fall, late fall, the date here is almost late december.

thats winter. not everything the guy says is gospel

The release date may come from the band, but if ANY stores order the album before the band announces, then that presumptive release date will leak...and half of us will believe it, while the other half call it bullshit.

Technically, 19 December is fall.  LAAAAATE fall.

The band/management will tell the fans when they are ready.
The band/management will tell the stores ,when they are ready.

Both dates could be the same or different, however the first date is unlikely to happen before the second date.

No one knows that he did.  It was a supposed conversation he had with some random fan before a show and no evidence was ever made that the guy even really met BBF.  Lets not take alleged conversations as fact.

Didn't it already ? We have rumours for the next 5 tuesdays ;) Lol ;D

Actually it's the last date they can release it that would still be fall being that winter starts Dec. 22

To a fan after one of the recent shows.

EDIT: Someone just said before a show. Whichever. The guy didn't have a reason to be lying. Bumblefoot does talk to a lot of fans, that we know.

I'm sure Axl can push the season back if he really wants to. ;)

The guy who said it was a "one post" wonder. ?It is in no way fact.

Yeah, as there's only one winter Tuesday in 2006, I'm sure most would give him a pass.  Better winter 2006 than anytime thereafter!

 :rofl:

I am sure on Axl's time schedule fall ends in February! ;D

Nothing here is fact...but it's all we have to speculate on.

Well there were a bunch of winter Tuesdays in 2006 in January, February, and March...but I know what you mean. ;)

I'll believe it when i hear it from the band , and even then i won't actually believe it until i see it in stores. Hopefully it's true though.

And, OH, what we would have given for any other winter 2006 date!

I'm really counting on this date. It will be the best early Christmas present ever!

Not to add to the ridiculous confusion (funny how you say that right before you do so...), but bestbuy.com's last date for internet orders that will be received by Xmas is Dec. 19th...not that that means a damn thing.

Looks like axls and co are gonna have a global No.1for Xmas

:-)

It fits with him putting this album off forever. ? Also they're in L.A. then so this makes perfect sense. ? ?: ok:

Ya, the whole LA thing kinda makes it seem even more possible. I get hyped up on just about every date that seems logical. Hope I don't get dissapointed.

Well, I will say this. If this album is going to be released in 06 then Dec 19 is the most logical date.

I believe it will arrive on the week the Nintendo Wii hits Europe.

LAAAATE fall.

As always.

late.

I hope March doesn't count as late fall, and he was talking about 06 late fall.  :hihi:

And what date is that for us non-nerds? J/k (Wii)

can we just see the dam split sheet, why would u not get on that right away, you know the dam skepticism behind all this, if you saw a split sheet couldnt you put 2 and 2 together and make sure before you say anything that u could show us the proof.

For December 19, if that is the target release date, they ?still have time to get the CD into the sunday circulars for the big US retailers. That week is currently in it's final stage before being sent to the printer, but we're still making other art and copy changes.
Of course, another CD would have to be bumped to make room, but looking at the other CDs coming out this week, I'm sure that wouldn't be an issue.

I wonder if someone is creating a fabricated "split-sheet" as we speak.

this sounds just like the virgin suprise apperance.

Being a Canadian, I called my local HMV, and they have nothing Chinese Democracy or Guns N' Roses related scheduled for December, or in particular the 19th.

I even asked the guy about their store "splits" and he said there was absolutely nothing Gn'R related on it except that boxset thingy.

I want to believe.. :-\

crimson_joel, why don't you tell us the exact store where you got this info?

just another lie by an attention whore liar.

Just so you know HMV Ireland has Chinese Democracy listed for 18/11/06 - I attempted to pre-order a copy but the girls system wouldn't let her. If HMV were confident of this release date surely they would be accepting pre-orders ?

I hope you mean 18/12/06.

Its honestly only 4 more weeks left, and then it's 2007 since next week is nearly gone already.

Im not getting stressed over this thing anymore, what's mean't to be, shall be.

OOps yes 18/12/06  : ok:

Well it's clear that GN'R want to make this a surprise album. That being said don't try and get some kind of "confirmation".

We're all frustrated, nobody more than me. I haven't had the luxery of seeing them on this tour and haven't sense Vegas 2001. It seems the closer we get the more frustrated because of this whole "no release date" thing. But it's now the holidays and I'm going to sit back and hope for Dec 19th, that's my bet. If we're sitting here after the end of year and nothing happens then, well...........

Ehh, the other way around dude. If I would start a thread that told you that Slash is rejoining the band and ofcourse that would be bullshit then it would be deleted. They are deleteing threads that are doing more damage than good. So if this would be true they would have no reason for deleting it.

Not saying that this story is true but they are not deleting everything thats true.

It's deleted on their website for Dec 18 as well:

http://www.hmv.co.uk/hmvweb/displayProductDetails.do?ctx=280;-1;-1;-1&sku=527255

I'm gonna ask a program director i know if his universal rep has said anything about a release date. Last time i talked to him, his rep didn't know anything. I'm guessing it'll be the same this time.

If this is in fact true, I find it heartbreaking that this album is just waiting in a warehouse in the middle of nowhere.. :hihi:

It's been talked about for 7 years. I think the "surprise" has been ruined.

This thread is beginning to cause chaos and confusion. Merck doesn't like that. It should be locked.

lol... same here! ?

geez i will admit, i am pretty damn sad. my 13 year old Son was talking to his friend the other day, and his friend was whining about not getting a PS3 til next year. ?my Son said, "i will be happy if i ever get a PS3. ?ask my mom about waiting. ?she's been waiting for a CD to release for my whole life." (we all know he was referring to GN'R CD)

 :rofl:

haha aww thats cute
im sure you dont feel cute about it though

it seems like a reasonable date..we can hope

Surprise release dude

he already said! check the previous pages!

either way, i don't think we're going to get any more info on this till next week b/c of turkey day...

Dec 19 is the only realistic release date for this year now, in my opinion.

So, this is...encouraging. If not conclusive.  :)

No he hasn't. He has only said it was an HMV in Canada. He never said the specific HMV where he got his info. Unless I completely missed it, but I don't think so.

You missed it - he's at the Dufferin store.

That was somebody else.

That is a strange thought, here we all sit...pan to warehouse and pic of CD boxed ready to go. :hihi:

Lets hope we're close.

Okay I just read the 9 pages of this thread, which is more than i can say for some... who end up asking answered questions  ;D

My two cents is that the guy's story states clearly that a Universal Rep came in TODAY with a split sheet that had the release date on it. So this has NOTHING to do any previous HMV release dates or any dates in computers. It also has NOTHING to do with Michael Jackson Best Buy. :)

I'm not saying I believe him, but remember, Universal could have decided the date yesterday... Gn'R management also getting the date. So it's possible that this dude just happened to see the first Universal rep with an updated sheet, and we might get an official date from Gn'R management soon.

Remember, some of you are the exact people who said, "When the date is decided... surely it will leak." Well then, this COULD be the leak. (stressing "could") Because this is exactly how it would happen. And it wouldn't mean that Merck/Universal is "holding back" announcing the date. It really could just be a fluke that this guy saw a Universal rep with an updated sheet right before the date was about to become official.

So one of the main problems in this thread is that people are calling stores that might have old split sheets because their particular Universal rep hasn't come in recently... or is smoking crack, or whatever. MOST IMPORTANT FOR CONFIRMING

1: Verify that PREVIOUS hmv Canada split sheets had NO Gn'R listing on it. (This is important)
2: Verify that NEW hmv Canada split sheets HAVE it on there

This would verify that this whole split sheet story is completely unrelated to hmv's PREVIOUS Dec 19th date... except that maybe they DID have a good guess all along.

That's my 2 cent yo. And yes, I ALSO got a raging clue... and it's pointing that way ---> ;D

you're right, sorry.

That seems pretty reasonable. I hope people aren't getting too creative with the rumours they spread though.. But this could very well be the case also.. hmm..

...on the other hand, if I can play devil's advocate...

This is twenty-seven days away. ?:nervous:

Twenty-seven days and not a glimpse of the artwork, no leaked tracklist, no stolen promotional material etc...

Again you're assuming that they'll follow a "How To" guide on releasing an album. They aren't using the TOUR version of that book, so why use it for releasing an album? I'm not saying the story is true... just that 27 days is plenty of time.

And I also agree with that other poster (if this is true) that the 28 days they spent in the studio in September is almost EXACTLY the difference between RS's Nov 21st and HMV's Dec 19th... fwiw

I dont think this guy is lieing... its not like he is a 1post rumor wonder.. hes been here...

December 19 is the date I bet... all signs are pointing towards it... its the most plausable date..

Exactly...If it were coming out this year it is the most realistic date...Thats why all the new rumours will be towards that date...I think its been pushed back to 2007 myself..Unfortunately...Hoping its not true though

isnt is possible that the guy ISNT AT WORK RIGHT NOW!!

and most likeley he wont be at work until friday, and hes gonna be busy...

People ... maybe the production of the cd it?s already done and, Universal and all the people envolved in Chinese Democracy know the release date but they don?t want to tell us ... so, we got a surprise release date in December ... 

melodicrock says 12/19.

It's either the 19th, or next year.  From what I gather, Jimmy Iovine wanted to wait until next year, and had a unique plan in mind to roll out the CD.  On the other hand, it seems the GN'R camp is worried about their reputation and is pushing for this year.  Hopefully some agreement was reached, which maybe pushed back the date from November, into December.  With the 19th falling before Christmas, and in time for the last minute shopping rush, and the post-Christmas bargain shopping and returns. This seems like a great time!   :smoking:

19th or bust...seriously.  If it isn't out the 19th nothing is happening (obviously), until AT LEAST Spring 2007, but personally I'm tired of this.  And I've only been waiting 5-6 years.

I realize that, which is why i asked why he didnt get any of this info while it was in front of  him. Did you read more that the first sentence of my post?

If it really is the 19th, when does everyone expect the announcement from the Gn'R camp?

Who says so, the truth is no one here knows what they think, and it's obviously not part of some marketing strategy so what?s stopping them from just putting it in stores next week, or in the 26th.

I'll wait and see. It'd be great if it came out on Dec. 19 - just in time for xmas! It seems like a more legit date than some of the others that've come and gone. If it doesn't come out then, oh well... but I'll still be dropping by that day to check anyway!

five silverpieces on that its fake.

Where do music stores get there info from? JB HI-FI said they aint got shit.


 :peace:

It'd be so ironic if it WAS true, considering how little credibility HMV have.
But here's hoping.

weird that they didnt closed this thread, it must be true then, cuase i thought jarmo was closing misleading rumours threads, like the RS saying that CD will be out the 21

Hardly almost all the threads on this site are just speculation.

one thing is speculation, and another completely different is someone saying that he knows the release date

frankly, that's the most solid data point so far.  Andrew (?) from melodic rock is pretty reliable.  And this new info has some added credibility because it converges on that date as well, and is pretty easy to verify.

Who the hell knows.  I would think it would be too late to release the album and have it reach maximum impact (there is a reason why virtually NO major new releases come out so late into the Christmas season).  But, maybe, just maybe, the 2006 thing will come true.  At the last minute, of course.

has anyone called the specific HMV store, to confirm that a Universal rep was actually there today?

Just got word that impoverished people in India are currently pressing 1 million copies of the cd for $1.00 American a hour and the factory where they are doing the pressing is surrounded by an army hired by Universal to make sure the Cd doesn't leak.

if this is true it's insane. seems too good to be true, but with gnr, who the hell knows?? :nervous: :smoking: :o ;D :drool:

oh dont worry, ive only been waiting 15 years..............

Jimmy who?

And where, when & how did yo hear this??

 :hihi:

Oh wait, you are kidding....right??

the head of interscope.

i was at HMV yesteray and asked and they had nothing on computer. Dude knew nothing about CD or GNR but ironcially a universal rep( she showed me her card) was in the store and she said it was not coming out this year and that just in the past couple days she was called into office along with president to hear new gnr songs. I asked if they were the leaks but she didn't know. she said the music was amazing. She thought the band may have a little more recordeing to do aswell. She said expect early 2007 release. we'll see!!

 

And when was it divulged that Jimmy wanted to wait until next year? ?Or is this just more dramatic bullshit to fan the flames??

a pread sheet is not a computer , you guys should quit asking stores if their puters have it listed


just a suggestion

This forum, thread, and all the release date storys are such a fucking gong show. :hihi:

hmmmm..

hhhhmmmm....

not that i doubt you or anything, but with the amount of shit stirrers around here these days..
seems reasonable... but the sad thing is people are getting very 'creative' with the information they post
again not doubting you, just telling how it is right now..

please shut up!!

I sent you an im, please give me a im response when you read it, thanks. : ok:

That's not even creative bullshit. ?Buzz off and go find some K-Fed message board somewhere.

uh don't ask me, i have no clue about this stuff, i was simply telling you who jimmy iovine is.

Thanks, I wasn't thinking you did.  I'm waiting for a repsonse form the twin city news man who reported it like he had some valid source.

But, thanks for answering me.

I got that, before I saw this =] No problem

np man, always willing to help a fellow gnr fan out :)

I dont buy it....sounds like complete BS... theres some Random Universal rep, and she somehow got to meet and listen to the songs... sure...


Universal have the master...

I was at Virgin the other day and inquired about CD. ?The dude behind me was wearing a really nice suit, looked very white-collar. ?Well, anyway, he heard me asking about CD and seemed excited. ?He told me that he worked at Universal and everyone was worrying about how the record would do. ?He said that he was glad to see some interest in the album, even without any promotion. ?He said that Universal was fighting with Axl; Axl wanted to release the album sans promotion but Universal wouldn't budge. ?As he said before, Universal was afraid no one would give two shits about CD without promotion. ?He said that Axl didn't care about its "success" and only wanted to release it by 2006 and keep his promise. ?However, the guy said to expect CD spring '07 (my heart sank) with heavy promotion, with Better released as the first single and the music video filled with highlights of the American Tour. ?Don't shoot the messenger ?:peace: ? I believe him, but he could have just as easily been a very creative asshole who can shoot the bull really well.

I've noticed that in HMV yesterday in Halifax that there was a cd case in there that said: "Chinese Democracy: Release Date December 19,2006"...but they also did say they weren't sure on an actual date.

jesus christ, we gonna get a million stories like this now ::)

it's going to get harder to try to tell who is for real and who just needs some attention to brighten their life
i hate going and criticising people right off the bat..

Okay, here we have some more "unoriginal/unimagineative" bullshit.

Who's next?

Can we get an acutal writer on here to make something creative at least??

i walked into best buy today and a rep from universal was there.  he said aliens came down on the universal building and crushed it, hence the delay.  he said that the album sounds amazing and that axl want to promote by going on talk shows.  he said the promotion will start next friday.  he said the band is really excited, but the aliens destroyed six of the songs, so the album will only have 5 songs on it.  He also said people on message boards should stop asking music stores about CD and stop posting these stupid "so i walked into my local music and store and was told...." he said to just fuckin wait, and when it comes it will come.

people like you make people like me lose credibility.  shame on you.  :rant:

so axls gonna be on oprah??

I have to say, you had me going for the first sentence or so...

One has to look through users posting histories to figure out who knows something, and who doesn't.  There are plenty of people here that work in the industry, or a related industry, that have some nuggets of insight from time to time.   : ok:

ho hum, more rumors, more waiting, no one knows anything. What else is new?

Hey I know that bud, I was just observing that for the most part, people's "rumours" are a little bit more researched and creative. Fuck, what gratification do people get spreading rumours about the album? Aren't they just as eager to get the final album as the rest of us? Why do they have to tease?

yep, and the guy who posted this thread has been here a long time, and has worked in HMV for awhile... I trust what hes saying :hihi:

not to mention Andrew from melodicrock.com is VERY RELIABLE.. I email him every once in awhile..nice guy... may have given me some more info Cough* Cough*

more info?
bud please.. if there's anything more you can share..

lol,

No matter what fucking record store you go to there must always be a Universal rep in there, no wonder why Chinese Democracy can't get a release date, no one at Universal works, they just go to fucking record stores all day. :peace:

how'd i do?

Thank god for the continued delay and lack of information pertaining to a release date because if we had a release date by now we would not be blessed with these "i was in a record store today" stories.

I'll add mine:

Last Tuesday I was in Circuit City looking to see if CD would just appear.....but it didn't, so I bought Army of Anyone's debut.

And then, just this past Tuesday I went to Cicuit City to buy the new Beatles cd and for shits and giggles looked in the new release section and the G section for CD. ?Nope, not there.

And next Tuesday I'm going to Circuit City to buy the Donnie Darko soundtrack for that song "Mad World" which is on the "Gears of War" video game commercial. ?And, I'll look for CD too. ?And maybe I'll look around for some nice dressed business looking type that might just happen to be roaming the music section at the same time I am so he or she can tell me what Merck and Axl are not bothering to.

I should probably log off now. ?Good night.

mine was better
hahah

a poster at CD.com who works at hmv says hell get his information for December 19 next wednesday... so then definitely well see if this rumor holds..

That should be the last post in this thread...says it all. : ok:

I went into my local Music World today and asked when the album would be out and the manager said "SOOOOOOON" :peace:


jk

lets all get on our knees and pray and cross our fingers and hold our breath..........well....maybe not that one but maybe this is it. I can't wait. ;D

I'm a proud Canadian and I don't trust HMV.
I'm a frequent visitor to melodicrock and I don't trust them.
However , I would be interested in Jarmo's thoughts on the subject.......?

I don't think Jarmo would tell us anything, even if he knew.
I don't expect he would know alot, but he would probably know something we don't, but he wouldn't say because understandably he wouldn't want to jeopardise his alliance with GNR management

I mentioned Best Buy earlier, only because if labels act strategically and want their stuff buyable for Christmas (with consideration of the massive amount of internet sales) then Dec. 19th is an important date. 

And, yes, this guy COULD be that sudden leak that happens to be true.  Like I said, a leak WOULD happen...doesn't mean he isn't it!

$1 an hour? No wonder cds are so expensive. And no wonder it's taking so fucking long  :hihi:
What you're telling us is that if we paid these people half-a-cent per unit, we'd have CD by now?!

Good thing I've booked December 19th off work. I'm gonna camp out on the 18th so I can be first in line to buy it. :smoking:

Totaly understand, anyone who has time to be creative in this manner needs a life!!  I'm an old time GnR die hard.....got my GNR tattoo when Live era came out....lowest point in gnr history....nothing going on in those days.......anyway this rep said for sure CD is not coming out in 2006....she said there was a meeting for people to listen to the album, but she was late and only heard 2 songs. Even if CD does come out this year, if they want to keep it a secret then of course the reps are going to aswer like she did, which seemed like there is no immediate promotion in the works right now.   Who the fuck knows!! but i'm thinking 06 is out of the question now. 

How could you be late to a CD listening party...what the fuck?!? Maybe thats just the hardcore coming out of me, but man too many stories goin on here!! Somebody Call the main headquarters and ask questions concerning GN'R and what the hell they are doing besides TOURING under the name Chinese Democracy!!?!!?

:'( :crying: :crying:

how could they POSSIBLY have more recording to do?

.

Camping out probably won't be necessary to be first in line.

This thread has become useless. No one knows shit and I'm sick of the rumors. If you know something for a fact, post it with some source, otherwise we don't care. Yes I've been to a music store the other day as well, and they didn't have anything listed for a new GN'R release. What else is new?

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