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thats on their site.. someone needs to call.. I cant right now because im not sure if its long distance, and im going to classes in about 5minutes..

if you got the number and wanna know it, call it yourself damn it :rant:

I guess you missed this part

come on that was a lame excuse :hihi:.. i saw that part (afterwards), but wanted to rant a little bit so i didn't delete it so a waited for a smartass to comment it : ok:

Always a pleasure to indulge :smoking:

I still don't know why this matters to anyone. The commercial airing on TV will not make the album come out any faster.

Not faster, but it would give us an indication on when.

one of you american people have to call them

Yeah, i think the idea is that it won't air until the album is definitely around the corner. As it would be displaying the song to a much larger audience.

Personally i don't think the Better version is ever going to air. I think the PC version was it. Harley doesn't do a whole lot of commercials, and this is a harley ad, not a gnr ad.

Man, if you think the people in their Customer Service know ANYTHING about the commercial that is just laughable...  :hihi: :hihi: :hihi:


Chances are they might even be an outsourced 3rd party company answering their phones.

hhaha they will get some call center in India....  Ask some indian call center bitch when the commercial comes out... hahahahah

you could have used a better word for that.. anyway, it would be great if anyone called and you would get what ashton kutcher and sean william scott gets in dude where's my car.. and theeeen`? :hihi:

I wonder if the commercial has been pushed back again? I swear, they should rename this band Delays N Setbacks, or something along those lines.

I just spoke to the markeing department at Harley.  She said the "better" version was planned to run but is now up in the air.  She would not say why.

She did say that it is "in the works to go back up but she did not know when."

That's all I got.

Simply amazing.

I call 'Bullshit' on this one... You can't just call up Customer Service and ask to be transferred to Marketing (I've worked in both departments for a large corporation). Secondly, Marketing people do not speak to outside callers. They'd simply hang up on anyone who called in.  (Especially not release internal information)


Nice try chief!!

I don't yet know what to make of that.

man I saw GNR last night and they were awsome. But whats the deal. They seem to be scared to death to release even a simple single.

hahahahaha!

OK, who is going to pretend to be GnR Mgt again and call?  ::) ::

Listen don't go there.  I have worked in advertising for many years.  They have a in house marketing dept.  I got switched to the main switchboard and asked to be transfered to the in house marketing dept.

I don't make things up.

As I was reading the thread I just ASSUMED you did that.   : ok:

But I guess some people want you to tell the whole frikin' story... or maybe they just like using this smiley  :rant:

Quit calling people and bothering them with this shit!

Edit: And quit posting numbers so all the other morons can call and bother them too.

I didn't pretend to be anyone but myself.  I told her I was a fan and just asked a couple of questions.  She was very nice.  That's all.

This is ridiculous. ?I know this post will go bye bye soon, because I have defied the censor Gods, but screw it. ?I love this band. ?I come to this forum everyday, I have been to 3 concerts this year and will be at Cleveland Friday for my 4th show. ?So I'm not some internet fan who sits behind his computer and bitches about the setlist. ?I love the fact that GN'R are out and touring, the November 3rd show was one of the greatest nights of my life.

All I'm asking is for some communication. ?We're told that the board is on lockdown out of "respect" for GN'R and management. ?Well that respect is only going one way. ?We wait months at a time for some official word only to receive vague answers that beg even more questions. ?I love this band, but I wish they'd be normal to some extent and communicate what's going on. ?Their silence isn't helping the fans or the album out any. ?Instead they're becoming even bigger jokes because hundreds of rumors exist and you're forced to just roll your eyes. ?

It was said by many including myself that Axl never said when CD was coming out, so we can't blame him for the years of delays. ?But that isn't true anymore. ?He finally did tell us that 2006 was the year, even after Merck said 2005. ?I defend this band on a constant basis, play the music for anyone who will listen. ?But I'm tired of looking like an idiot to every person I know. ?It's almost my normal greeting anymore "Chinese Democracy come out yet? ?chuckle chuckle." ?

I know I'm expressing the same feelings that others have. ?And it's really hard, because on one hand I love this band and its music but on the other I'm tired of being mislead. ?It's still possible for the CD to come out this year, but any marketing campaign they do launch immediately will be laughed at and dismissed just like anothe rumor. ?You can only cry wolf so many times.

(Puts on best homer simpson/mr burns voice:)

Hello, my name is Mr Rose, I believe you have an album for me?

Certainly, and what's your first name Mr Rose?

I don't know....

Agreed:

http://www.mygnrforum.com/index.php?showtopic=83734

 ???

I agree too, but I'll put my two cents in to maybe make you feel a little better.

First; I believe Axl's word this time. So much so, that I think he would PERSONALLY pay what ever it takes to rush the album into stores before Christmas. (Even if the September recording sessions slowed down the time line... which has NEVER been confirmed)

Second; Don't let the idea or the usual promotion methods shatter your illusions of a 2006 release. This band hasn't needed it for the tour (SEVEN HUNDRED THOUSAND PEOPLE IN EUROPE!), and I don't think they'll need it for the album. Besides, if he releases the album with little or no promotion at first (then it kicks in later), you can sit back knowing that he released it for YOU... the fans who pay attention and wait with anticipation.

So I don't know about you, but I LIKE the idea of walking into a record store knowing the new Guns album is sitting on a shelf, and the usual "Wal Mart" music fans have to wait for an advertisement or a giant display in a store to smack them in the face. I (we) get to hear it first.

Done babbling...   ;D

Jesus H. Christ...will you people PLEASE leave all these companies alone?  "Call Harley...call Tower...call Best Buy...."  Mysteron has CONFIRMED that it will not drop from the sky....that GNR will inform the WORLD when the album is ready...we will find out just as soon as anybody else.  And I seriously doubt all that an HD rep has to worry about is a song in their commercial.  Get a life.

their number is on their website.

let's close all gnr related forums and sites till the album is out, it would surely extend our lives for 1 odr 2 years  :yes:

Awesome post!

Randall Flagg..great post. You express my feelings 100%. No one outside the gnr fans camp is anticipating for this release. For them, if it happens, it happens. For us, the "hype" has reached its peak and no one else is there to talk about or prepare for this release. This is what matters, if there was a release date revealed, we could do our "job" and spread the word, let people know when its out, then create "the hype". What is there to talk about now?

Exactly, they should start making decent bikes first  ;)

Great, whipee!

Don't encourage posters to call and bother people, hows that?

It's fucking retarded.

Shit, i'm never telling anyone ever again that this cd is coming out! No one would believe me anyway. I'm not gonna risk looking like a fool again because Axl or whothefuckever decided to push it back again.

yeah, after 2002 i pretty much stopped telling other people when the album was coming out.
when there is a press release, then i will let anyone who is curious know...

People stopped believing me a long time ago in regards to the album release. The absolute highpoint was when I played them a copy of the demos and they were pretty hyped, but now they just laugh at me. Three cd stores that I go into in the city, when they see me especially when I'm wearing the GNR 2002 tour shirt they say "so wheres your chinese democracy kid" and just chuckle.
I hope for the day that will change.

On topic though, seriously there's no reason why people can't call their customer service department and ask questions. That's the whole point of providing that contact number and hiring people to do. I mean obviously there's an exception, as long as 10,000 people aren't calling up abusing them or people pulling pranks or interviewing anonymous switchboard operators about Chris Pittman's funky techno beats

Don't loose your time.

Companies don't keep their Customer Service dept informed on 'Marketing Campaigns' Most CS depts have high turnover, people get stressed out quick & leave for another job. And to go a step further, alot of companies hire 3rd parties for Customer Service so they don't have to provide expensive benefits packages..

CS reps are trained on how to take orders, give store locations, but mostly they deal with complaints (about 90% of all phone calls).. People complaining about something (bike problems, problems with dealer, problem getting parts etc). So go ahead call and ask about a "Guns N Roses" commercial :rofl: :rofl:, I guarantee you the CS rep will have no idea what you're talking about.

Your right...that is why I bypassed them and went to the marketing department.

YAAWNNN!!!!!  Would you give it up already.   ::)

it's like you guys think this is a guns n' roses commercial.  shit, there's people even people saying that the commercial is going to debut during the AMAs tonight.  i can't beleive how many fucking rumors and lame ass hypothetical situations we've been getting posted here during the last 6 months.

Yeah no I completely understand that. I just mean in terms of people freaking out about calling them and asking them questions. Look as long as your polite and reasonable about it and groups of people don't go abusing them or whatever, there's no reason why they can't take your enquiry out of interest. I know it's not a GNR ad, its a ad for Harley's product, but they have to expect curiosity like this.

what time are the AMAs on? I'm not thinking something will happen, and probably won't watch, just out of interest.

If anything it would air during Thursday's football games. Award shows like the AMA's get more of a female demo, not really who Harley Davidson's targeting.? :no:


(Not saying I believe it'll air during the games, just more likely than the AMA's)

But to answer your question, I think they start around 8pm EST.

Harley is definately not targeting AMA viewers, are you guys kidding?

Some of you internet Sleuths need to get out more, find a hobby, get a girl or boy friend,  buy a puppy,

Stop chasing a ghost....

Buy a Harley and then maybe...just maybe, someone will start talking.. :hihi:

if H-D is getting calls from GNR fans about a song in a commercial, they may consider the GNR tie-in a success already...

How many Aerosmith fans called the Gap or Target HQ when Steven Tyler and Joe Perry appeared in a commercial? :)

Actually it'd be a failure so far.. because the staff they're paying to answer phones is busy talking to people asking a GnR commercial instead of actual/potential HD customers. So they're in the red already. Let alone, not many people buying HD cycle's as a result of the campaign they shelled out $$ for.

I seriously don't give a fuck what MYSTERON says...  I mean he's a nice guy and all, but he's not GNR.  I'll listen to what GNR says, not mysteron.  : ok:

Well I have lots of experience in phoning huge corporate companies and being asked to be put through to marketing depts - and they simply transfer you.  I think you shouldn't shoot someone down based on experience you have.  Every company works differently.

What did he mean it wont drop from the sky?!?!

He means they wont release it without announcing it.

Doesnt that contradict the "you might just walk into a record store and see it" remarks....

How much notice they gona give us.

November 28th along with the 21st was one of the two most discussed possible release dates... and now it seems November 28th is gona be a no show too....

Merck was being sarcastic. What he probably means is that they arent going to announce the album's release date way ahead of time.  They might just announce it like a week or two before it comes out.

But who knows if they are even planning on releasing it this year now.

I'm starting to think he'll say anything as long as it buys the band time.

If they told you the Commercial will air at  11/25/06 at 404pm on Fox network how many of you nerds would skip school, work, or whatever to be home and watch it? or set your TiVo to record it? 

Who the fuck cares if it airs... You can see the comercial on youtube.com anyways.

and if you think that the commercial is going to give you the answers to when this stupid album is going to come out, your wrong. it wont. 

I agree with some of this. I'm still not sure why alot of you have to get so hostile with each other over it, but I agree with the overall thought.

I mean, if the commerical airs w/ Better in it I wouldn't expect much to change except maybe finally get some word of mouth going about new GNR music amongst somebody other then us.

Well being that 11/25/06 is a Saturday, I don't think many of us would need to skip school.? :hihi: Me, I work M-F so I wouldn't need to pull the trigger & take off from work. And I use a DVR not Tivo, but aside from all that, you're dead on. : ok:


Russtcb is right, it will be cool to hear about some word of mouth buzz from people & friends saying they saw it, which is why I think it'd be cool to air it's debut during a high profile program (Thanksgiving day football game) with a larger audience. I don't think it will, but would be cool.

DVR sits high atop the mountain, its feet up TIVO's ass.

you all should apply for Band Manager or AR or something... ?If they wanted some word of mouth buzz all they have to do is release ONE of the 36 songs he says he has recorded as a single.
You think they dont know that?? or maybe most of you are just smarter than everyone who works for Universal, or the band. ?Seriously, Calling Harley Davidson isnt going to make a single appear. ?

thats what i use too...

Then it's about time that your karma was equalized to reflect your superior taste in digital video recording machina.

LMAO.... I agree!!!! There is no better way to watch PPV porn or sports replays than with DVR.  plus it has more storage space than a TiVo has....

I wasn't saying "GnR should do that", or trying to act as their publicist, just what I'd like, IMHO. Plus it's pretty much common sense so I'm sure they have intentions similar to that... And yes, I'm sure they do have a "plan" for the commercial, and there's probably some kindof hub-bub holding up the albums release & commercial.

And if you read the thread you'd probably see I was against calling HD, not for it.

cool... i hope they do have a plan... i dont see one but i hope they do...

Iam not going to read the thread. It would take too much time.