Here Today... Gone To Hell!

This was reported from BigBoss on sp1at.? And I thought I'd share this as it shows GNR cares for their fans.:

"Please note the following story;

http://thechronicleherald.ca/Front/542064.html
I just wanted to let you know that Guns N' Roses will be transporting Mary to and from the concert tonight.

The thing I find amazing about this is Guns chose not to mention this to anyone. They were happy just to take this story on the chin and the let the world carry on normal.

I have chosen to let you all know, and it'd be good see this posted on other forums."

Cheers to Guns N' Roses and their management on this. I love stories like that. Axl if you are reading this. I admire you for doing something like that. Shows that you care for your fans and have nothing but admiration for that. I'll be at the concert tomorrow. Hope it rocks! Thank you Axl! Because as a physically disabled person this is special for me. Thanks a 1000000 times for that gesture towards that woman.

Can you post the text where GNR states they are providing transportation to this woman?  I would really like to read it and it isn't in the article you posted.

I think this is just great though that they would take the time to hear the concern and respond to one fan in need! :beer:

bigboss at sp1at reported this... there is no article on it

That's the thing. ?There is no text. ?BigBoss learned about it somehow. ?GNR just chose to take this one on the chin and not report to the media what they did. ?Shows the class they got. ?But BB thought it would be good that people now about this as do I. ?

pretty cool they are taking time out to do this.  I wonder if the woman wrote a letter to management stating her frustration.  If that worked then why does our letters of frustration toward the album not work!?!?!?  I dont get it,lol.  ANyway very cool they are doing this..... : ok:

Oh I see, I really hope it is true then! ?I am not a member on that forum so I can't see anything that has been posted. ?

Thank you for reporting it here though! ?I hope Mary has a great time at the show!

same here,!!!

i posted the story ahere a couple of hours ago with the hope that GNR managment noticed what was happening with this girl, somehow GNR noticed what heppened with this girl, and they acted in a classy way ?: ok:

I wish it could finally shut the world up... they are on the tour, playing their asses off, having a great time and wishing everybody else the same... and CD will follow it all once it is ready? : ok: .

Yeah, I remember that post. Odd how your thread got deleted but when a post is made about GnR doing good it seems to stick around?!

is it relating to the MacDonalds wheelchair lady story? If so, or even not, kudos to GNR for (not?)displaying the virtue.  good deed indeed.  :yes:

Just because some guy posted that they did, does not mean it is true.

It would be great if it was, but I'm not going to believe it just because somebody posted it.

Yeah, it may well not be true. She did afterall say shge'd like to wring Axl's neck! He'll be travelling separately then  ;D

It's true

can someone please explain who the hell Mary is, what GNR is doing to her, and what the fuck the point of this thread is?

BB has some contacts with Merck. ?How he got that story I don't know. ?But just because this is a positive story on GNR you choose not to believe this. ?Pfff!!!!! ?I'm the first one to point it out when Axl does something wrong and I don't shy away on saying it. ?Like for the album. ?I'm sick and tired of them playing with us the fans on this. ?But Goddamnit I think it is extremely important to point out the good things he does as well. ?And it makes it better that he chose not to go public with it. ?Shows that Axl is a good man and a good human being after all. ?Pisses me off when someone refuses to believe good actions like this. ? :rant:

Mary is a wheelchair bound woman in Canada that was unable to go to the show tonight due to transport issues. ?GNR has stepped up and is providing her transport to and from the show.

The point of the thread is that it is a NICE read. ?Something we haven't had a lot of lately with all the complaining.

Thanks Mysteron for the confirmation. :beer:

Take time to read threads fully before you post  : ok:

Ok so if we post threads that are positive to GNR you're all going to complain about "what the fuck the point is". ?The point is that it shows that GNR are well intentioned. ?Jesus Christ!

That's great !!! GNR rules 8)

Thanks Mysteron for confirming this. ? : ok: ?By the way. ?Is the album still slated for an 06 release? ?If you could please confirm or deny this as well. ?Thanks man.

Thanks Bandita! 

and mysteron, i did read the thread, all it said was that "Guns N' Roses will be transporting Mary to and from the concert tonight."  Mary could've been a bag of weed, a pony, or axl's new psychic for all i know  :hihi:

 

Click on the link.  ;)

All SLCPunk was saying was don't jump on this just because someone said it happened. Yes, Mysteron confirmed it's true later ( and ty BTW), however at the time SLC posted, there was no confirmation aside from "someone at sp1at"

People here are soo wishy-washy, "CD is not coming out this year" and people say "Bullshit, that guy doesn't know what he's talking about" and "I'm not believing it until I hear it from a valid source"

Then someone posts "Hey someone at Sp1at said Axl & Band do something nice for handicapped fan" and right away we get "Yeayyyy, Axl is great!! :love:"

SLCPunk was right, in a big picture kindof way, don't beleive everything people post. This time it turned out to be true... but next time ?:nervous:

I agree in a way.  But lately we've all been negative on GNR me included.  But I think this is on hell of a good story and it is important to note the good things on GNR as well.  No grudge held against anyone here.   :peace:

It?s odd to believe anything coming from spat1 but now Mysteron has confirmed it I just can say this is a very nice gesture from the band :)

I really can't believe people are posting negatively in this topic. ?

Have we really become this cynical? :no:

I am personally glad Mary will get to be at the show because she has been waiting since the 80's to see GNR. ?And her lasting impression will be that the band took the time to address her concern and make sure she was able to be there. ?Sure, in the grand scheme of things it isn't a big deal but don't you think it is a big deal to that person's life? :peace:

Amen to that Bandita. 

Seriously.  When it comes to things like this.  No matter what you think of Sp1at.  Why people can't just say cheers to GNR.  I can't believe some of you.   :no:

Cool of GN'R to do that there are not many bands around that would bother with something like that and yet people still give them shit, ?

How could someone be negative with a story like this is beyond me.  I can't wait to rock with GNR tomorrow.

Well then that is awesome.  : ok:

That was VERY NICE of GNR. I must admit that when I read the original article about this, I had a feeling they would do something nice to help her out! And not for publicity either, just to be nice!

This is cool of GN'R.  However, I'd suggest that they print on the ticket what time they'll be taking the stage.  8 is definitely misleading.  They could print two times, show time (for the openers) and than GN'R, which is always at least 11 isn't it?  Include this on ticketmaster's website too.  I don't mind that they go on late, but I understand why people get upset when they don't know ahead of time and end up having to leave a show early or stranded.

Very warm-hearted gesture...Hope Mary has the show of a life-time!

That's an awesome thing they're doing for her! 

it's not a big surprise for me that they did this :-* .After all as far as i remember Axl visited this summer a teen cancer thing so he's a good guy. : ok:  .For those who don't belive he's able to do things like this sorry for you guys but...

excellent - nice one Guns.  Perhaps the local disabled transport companies can wake up in Mary's area and realise that their services might be needed for people who still love to go out and rock.  A lovely gesture and great that Mary can see GnR.   :beer:

This shows that this band and its frontman are really something great.

Congrats GN'R : ok:

I just read the article below on thechronicleherald.ca.  Not sure if GNR funded the lift, but it is a really great gesture by whoever did it.  Hopefully it was GNR...


http://thechronicleherald.ca/Metro/542187.html


Disabled GNR fan gets ride

By GREG GUY Entertainment Editor


Mary MacDonald?s dream of seeing Guns N? Roses was to be fulfilled on Monday night.

"I got a drive to and from the concert," the happy Halifax woman said Monday. "Kevin, the owner of Need-A-Lift, offered to take me there and pick me up."

MacDonald, who is confined to a wheelchair, thought her hopes were dashed when she found out the band didn?t go onstage until after 11 p.m., meaning the concert would get out between 1 and 2 a.m. and her original transportation, Access-A-Bus, would have ended its run.

When MacDonald called Need-A-Lift on Sunday to book a ride, she was told they ended their service at midnight.

After a story appeared in The Chronicle Herald on Monday, several people offered to take MacDonald to and from the concert, using their own cars. But MacDonald, who gets around in an electronic wheelchair, said she has to ride in a van with a ramp.

She said she also had a call from Ralph Williams, manager of operations at Trade Centre Ltd., who offered to get her to and from the arena, but she explained she needed a special van.

By 5 p.m. Monday, MacDonald had all but given up hope of seeing her favourite band. She said the Metro Centre offered to refund her ticket, which she was happy about. But she got the news around 5:30 p.m. that Need-A-Lift was coming to pick her up.

The Guns N? Roses online message board was also filled with MacDonald?s transportation dilemma, one suggesting that the band?s management should offer to get her to and from the concert.

One e-mail sent to The Chronicle Herald?s entertainment department, believed to be from the band?s management said: "Guns have personally suggested she be transported to and from the concert. . . . Guns want to give people a real rock n? roll ?70?s night out. Back then people never slept. Late nights and a good time were always on the menu. At the same time, though, they are sensitive to people?s requirements."

( gguy@herald.ca)

What message board?

Anyways guess we better be careful with our words. We never know who's reading the board and for what reasons. Any random post can be turned to their advantage..

Nice for Axl & Co. to take care of this, but...

WTF? Is it like a civil right to see GNR live? And if it doesn't seem to be happening, bitch about the starting times of the band?

I don't know Mary and I don't mean this personally, but (I get to adapt my favorite quote):

"Just because you're in a wheel chair doesn't mean you couldn't be a selfish, narcistic bitch."

"I wanted to see Axl Rose"
"I can't be walking home at one in the morning"
"I have no way home because Access-A-Bus doesn?t pick up its clients after 11:30 p.m"
"If I could wring Axl Rose?s neck, I?d probably do so"
"I am a very deeply disappointed Guns N? Roses fan"

And all I'm saying here is that if I was in charge, I never would've done what GNR camp did after those comments. Good thing I'm not  ;D

You can hate me now.

I don't hate you.

I agree with you.

But I must point out that you left out a key part of one of Ms. MacDonald's statements: "I wanted to see Axl Rose as far back as the ?80s."

She wanted to see GNR since the 80's, but she had no idea they would be playing so late...?? ?::)? And then she blamed GNR and Axl for her dilemma...!? ?::)? ?::)

While I'm glad she got to go to the show after all, and while I think GNR and/or Need-A-Lift were very kind to accomodate her, I too find her selfish.  I think her beef should have been with the public transportation system up there, not with GNR.

Now people can hate me, too.

Well then again that was the way the media adapted her story for their argument.

You people wouldn't trade one day of your life to live life in her shoes, let alone a night out to a Guns N Roses concert.

And to blame to transportation company?? Imagine if your boss asked you to work until 2am tonite. Would you?

And no, it isn't a "Civil right" to see GnR, she didn't file a lawsuit against them.. She simply returned her ticket and got her money back. Somehow, a reporter got wind of the story and wrote an article about it. People read the article and did something positive by offering her a ride and the Transportation Company Employees offered to work late (until 2am) to give her a ride home. What did you two do that was so positive other than sit in front of your computer moniter and make fun of her and call her a "selfish, narcistic bitch"

Way to go, you two sound like a bunch of winners. Wish I could hire the both of you to work for my department(NOT!!).

That's okay, I wouldn't want to work with someone who doesn't expect their co-workers to know their limitations and to take responsibility for themselves.?

I don't find this woman's complaints about the show running too late for public transportation to accomodate her? any different from people's complaints that the show runs too late for them to be able to get to work, school, etc. the next day.? You know your limitations.? Accept them.? Take responsibility for finding out if what you want to do is within your limitations before you try to do it.? And don't go blaming other people if you can't.? That is selfish.? And I don't think I'm making fun of this woman by saying so.

I do think that public transportation for the handicapped should be available around the clock, if for an extra fee.

Many people work until 2am - and it's not usually by choice.

I, too feel it was wrong for her to take this out on GnR in any way, shape or form. As unfortunate as her situation is, it is up to her and her supporters to rally around decent TRANSPORTATION and not band to start earlier. Given the choice, I still would have wanted them to go on at 12. That's when rockers are awake.

My own mother is disabled, and if she wanted to go to GnR but was unable to because of the time or disabled transport I would say nothing about it - thems the breaks and not everything works out in your favor. It's called life. Where's this woman's family? They have more responsibility to her than anyone else (besides herself).

I HATE it when anyone EXPECTS people to go out of their way for them.

I was thinking the same thing.....way too weird...if I was in a wheelchair I wouldnt bitch..I would take the necessary actions so I could go. I would ask parents, family, friends of help so I could go. I wouldnt start bitching in the local newspaper.

Here, here! Now let's take this puppy back on topic. :D

So what? What the fuck does that have to do with ANYTHING???


Depending on the job, yes I would. There are many jobs that require you to work at 2 am. Regardless of the collar colour...


First, no one called anyone anything or made fun of anyone. Learn to read!

Second, what I did was point out that the comments quoted in the article sounded selfish. And I also pointed that it was a nice gesture that someone took care of her dilemma.

What was your input?


Are you seriously one of those fucking retards who can't see beyond other people's disabilities or other issues that put them in a disadvantage? GO AFFIRMATIVE ACTION!

I repeat, refrasing in a more general form:

"Just because you're disadvantaged somehow doesn't mean you're a wonderful deserving human being!"

Checkmate.

Good for them!

I have a daughter that is in a wheelchair. I found the woman to come off as a little selfish. Her complaint shouldbe with the public transportation system. IMO, there should be transportation available to the physically handicapped 24/7, even if it costs a little more in the middle of the night.

I know i bitch alot about the things this band does/doesn't do, but they really went out of their way to accomodate this fan, and i think it's great they did it. I would never expect a band to make arrangements to pick up my daughter so she could get to their show. One thing the wife and i do make sure to teach our daughter is that just because you're handicapped doesn't mean the world owes you something. She's strong willed and wants to do everything herself, so i don't think that'll be a problem.

Sounds like you are a wonderful parent. I have been burned trying to help out manipulative patients and their families but I have also been blessed to have really made a difference in people's lives. I hope that GNR did that for this lady! Consider it her MAKE A WISH that was granted by Uncle Axl!! I just wish the media would focus on the good things Axl has done !!!

It doesnt even say it was GNR who helped her see the show?!

From the article posted here http://www.heretodaygonetohell.com/board/index.php?topic=39825.msg806413#msg806413, it can be inferred that the GNR camp contacted Need-A-Lift to ensure that Mary MacDonald got a ride to last night's show.? Kudos to both organizations for making that happen.? ?: ok:


I agree with both 1badapple and Annie on all the points they made.

1badapple, what you're teaching your daughter -- that the world doesn't owe her anything -- is a great lesson for anyone? to learn.? ?: ok:

In a perfect world, Ms. MacDonald would be able to call for a van as easily as I can call for a taxi.? But the world isn't perfect.? IMO, having "wanted to see Axl Rose as far back as the ?80s", she should've known that GNR concerts end late and planned accordingly before buying her ticket.? Being disabled (or young, or old, or short, or tall...) is not an excuse for being ignorant.

For all the bad press the band can get...for them to do this quietly is very classy. : ok:

Only "GNR fans" would bitch about the band doing something great for someone who can't walk.

Only "Gagarin" can find any bitching about the band doing something great for someone who can't walk.

Mary should have asked Team Hoyt   :peace:

http://cjcphoto.com/can/

(Watch the video at the bottom  :'()

Blabbermouth.net has picked up this story but never mentioned the arranged ride.  People there love to bash Axl and they are...it would be nice if someone who posts at Blabbermouth.net would add this information. :yes:

It has to do with it being posted on a forum, that is why I didn't believe it off the bat. It has nothing to do with it being positive or negative. So keep your childish comments to yourself.

Stil!  How can someone be negative on a story like this is beyond me.

I agree.

I don't think SLC was negative about GNR stealthly doing  its fans great favours. He was just skeptical about the source.

Yeah me either can't get why the negative comments in this thread.

No need to be too hard on the woman. Not every GNR fan is informed or alert. Her frustrated comments were used by the critic but her enthusiasm for the show is doubtless shown there. That made the band grant her her wish, IMO.
Someone tell her who was behind the support she got.

The band really cares. GNR loves you.  :peace:

why isnt the press following up with a positive article? who reported the 1st article painting gnr so ugly in the first place? they need to print a follow up now showing the nice outcome of it all. The press always slants things against guns n roses, I bet the reporter is a  fan whitney houston fan....keekee :D

Disabled GNR fan gets ride

By GREG GUY Entertainment Editor


Mary MacDonald?s dream of seeing Guns N? Roses was to be fulfilled on Monday night.

"I got a drive to and from the concert," the happy Halifax woman said Monday. "Kevin, the owner of Need-A-Lift, offered to take me there and pick me up."

MacDonald, who is confined to a wheelchair, thought her hopes were dashed when she found out the band didn?t go onstage until after 11 p.m., meaning the concert would get out between 1 and 2 a.m. and her original transportation, Access-A-Bus, would have ended its run.

When MacDonald called Need-A-Lift on Sunday to book a ride, she was told they ended their service at midnight.

After a story appeared in The Chronicle Herald on Monday, several people offered to take MacDonald to and from the concert, using their own cars. But MacDonald, who gets around in an electronic wheelchair, said she has to ride in a van with a ramp.

She said she also had a call from Ralph Williams, manager of operations at Trade Centre Ltd., who offered to get her to and from the arena, but she explained she needed a special van.

By 5 p.m. Monday, MacDonald had all but given up hope of seeing her favourite band. She said the Metro Centre offered to refund her ticket, which she was happy about. But she got the news around 5:30 p.m. that Need-A-Lift was coming to pick her up.

The Guns N? Roses online message board was also filled with MacDonald?s transportation dilemma, one suggesting that the band?s management should offer to get her to and from the concert.

One e-mail sent to The Chronicle Herald?s entertainment department, believed to be from the band?s management said: "Guns have personally suggested she be transported to and from the concert. . . . Guns want to give people a real rock n? roll ?70?s night out. Back then people never slept. Late nights and a good time were always on the menu. At the same time, though, they are sensitive to people?s requirements."

( gguy@herald.ca)


http://www.herald.ns.ca/Metro/542187.html




/jarmo

I posted this article a few days ago in this thread already.  That wouldn't be Jarmo being a lazy poster? :hihi: :peace:  Does it mean GNR funded the ride or Need-A-Lift?

Bang Bang

Sorry.  Somebody was asking why the press isn't following the story up with the ending so I figured we should bring it up again.



/jarmo

I dont think its ethical to use these sort of things for promotional purposes.
its something u2 (or madonna) would use to promote them selves.

Read the thread, there's tons of bitching about "blah blah, special treatment!"...

Edit:  In fact, it was you!!!  :confused:

No one used the words "special treatment".? And no one is bashing the band.? All Axlative, myself, and a few others did was mention that the fan in question should've done her homework before she bought a ticket to the concert.

If this story did not involve a handicapped person -- if it was just some kid with no car who was pissed off because he didn't bother to find out that (a) the concert would end late and (b) the city bus would stop running before the concert ended before he bought a ticket -- would you feel sorry for the person?? Maybe a little; maybe you'd think, "Bummer for him."? Maybe not at all; maybe you'd think, "What a dumbass!"? In any case, if GNR gave him a lift, you'd think, "That was nice of them."

No one thinks GNR and Need-A-Lift didn't do a good thing in this situation.? Some of us have simply pointed out that they never would have had to if the fan at the center of all this had used her head.

pretty fuckin kool !
 : ok:

Good for GNR.

I have met ghetto kids who Steven Tyler can call out by name.

 I work with the disabled that when it rains they change their clothes in a stall a government mule would rebel against.

When the disabled arrive at work soaking wet from a rainstorm they do more work than their mangers do all day.

 I wonder would I carry them down from the thirtieth floor of where I work in an emergency? Am I lying?

Would the corporation? Would the band? Would the industry? Would you? Remain in the face of chocking smoke?

Are you obese, alcoholic or do you smoke or do drugs?

Do you wish they would al go away from your philanthropy?

How Hitler?. You Beautiful disease

I say, I live, I breathe, I am, wouldn?t want you to be less?. Et tu?

Can you find a flaw? I am sure with your viper skill Sunday school skills you will find away.

Put the beast on the table carve it up and answer honestly. Otherwise you are a lie?

I?m an outlaw baby?down in Folsom?s prison....

The question of your what your Chinese democracy represents remains on the table?.

Of what you are and what we hope you are despite all your shallow indications.

I remain hopeful but would never walk a step into your backstage mess.

Fantastic Poetry...keekee....I would follow you Nooz...keekee :D :o :love: