Here Today... Gone To Hell!

I've been a fan for 7 years now, hardcore for 6, and while that makes me a freshman to some of you, I'd like to share my views on what actually made it so.

First meet: Live Era 99, Axl wails on KOHD in a TV commercial. Sold.

That turned out to be the first steps on a long ride with what I consider the greatest band the world has ever seen. Everything about them is great. Image, attitude, character, melody, roughness, realism, lyrics, controversy, groove. Everything.

What really sticks out though is the mesmerizing voice of Mr. W.Axl Rose. He's got the abillity to turn a good song great with just a tiny stroke of magic. you're just fuckin gone makes Dust N' Bones, It's been 14 years of silence, it's been 14 years of pain makes 14 Years. That's just two examples of good songs turned great by this amazing frontman.

Don't get me wrong. The other members are also vital to the music. Axl needs a basic rythm and melody behind him to take it further. But once that is in place he is the guy responsible for taking it one step further, beyond other rock bands like AC/DC, Purple and Sabbath. To neverland.

This is why GN'R with new guitarists, bassists and drummers can still be GN'R to me. It doesn't sound the same, but it still brings back the feeling that you've just heard something incredible. I had a small revelation yesterday. A portugise friend gave me a reefer with some amazing shit in. While I smoked it I put on my Chinese Democracy bootleg. It has always been great, but this time I realised truly how great. Songs like Oh My God, The Blues, IRS and There Was A Time have some genious vocal melodies on them. I don't know if everybody really understands how great that highpitched singing before BHs outro in TWAT is. That shit is not really good or really great, it's absolutely geniously amazing. A one in a million moment. Ask me how many vocalists that have done something that great with his voice and you wont get many answers.

I actually have a hard time putting my feelings into words on this matter. It's just all those tiny little subleties that I hear in Axls voice and melodies. You don't notice it at first, but when you have heard the song a 100 times you find that it's not only great, but intentional.

That's why GN'R with Axl will always be GN'R to me. He's the only one that can still make me feel like the old band did, and that's what matters. Not who's in the band, or what sound is used but what the music ultimately mean to you. Axl sure isn't the best singer out there, but when it comes to creativity and effeciency he's the best the world has ever seen. I just hope more people will realise that in the future.

Dude, you just summed up everything about how I feel. You're right, its hard to find words, but I only get this sort of feeling when I hear Axl's voice. (As I'm listening to Catcher in the Rye)  :drool:

Boring boring boring,

Its not the same as the old BAND, this is ALX rose and some backing band.
plain and simple.

no trying to be an ass or anything but what's the point of this thread?

No new music can exist without the Master of the Synths !!!!  :beer:


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We salute you !!!    :peace: :peace:

I'm sorry I didn't provide any release date theories, but this is a GN'R discussion board. A place to talk about your favorite band.

Don't be an ass, It was a serious question you created this thread for a reason but I fail to see one...to me this is just another ass kissing thread, but hey if thats how you feel? : ok:

go to a VR board moron
we are talkin about GNR not Scott's backin band

The point is to discuss his favorite band...like he just said.

Yes you are... Very very very

Exactly. ?Who do you think you are, posting a topic on this board that doesn't have the words "album release date" in it? ? ? :hihi:

As a long time fan, to me, the current band isn't the same as the "original" lineup, but the current group is just as legitimate.? They're the ones making the new music I love, and they're as much GnR as the AFD era band ever was.? I totally agree, though, there's an inexplainable "magic" to Axl's voice that isn't matched by anyone else in rock, and it defines GnR, as well it should.? I remember when I first heard the opening lines of "Better" earlier in the year ("The hardest part...").? I had a smile on my face for an hour...

wow

exactly my thoughts.

congratulations man, i feel completly identified with your post.

I was influenced by Slash just as much as I was Axl.


Slash's melodic one of a kind solos to me were just as great as any vocal melody Axl sang.


I will sing ?a long with Slash's solos just like I will with Axl's vocals.


Thing with new GNR is, With Slash he took a song that was an 8 and with his guitar ability elevated it to an all time classic.

With the New GNR songs we have heard, with the exception of Better, the guitar just doesnt do anything to increase the songs appeal.

Its kind of like the solo is thrown in just to fill a space instead of being a song inside a song.


Slash's SCOM and NR solos are just as memorable and famous as the songs themselves.


the guitar riffs of WTTJ, SCOM and NR are the most famous things about those songs.

WoW. Pictures of your Axl Roses shrine would have just saved you all that typing...  :hihi: :nervous: :beer:

Sorry dude, but Axl is not just ''the singer'' of Guns N' Roses. He is the mind, the soul, the concept, the dorsal spine of the band. If you reduct him to ''just a vocalist'' I think you're not understanding the whole thing.

and here we go  ::)

*smashing head off of table*

FFS, it's spelt "genius"!! Referring to intelligence by spelling genius wrong? People should be shot for that kind of irony.

I'm sorry...what was this thread about again?

I call that feeling the tingles, its like when your favorite team scores a winning touchdown as time expires, or when they hit a 3 pointer at the buzzer in double overtime in a the playoffs,  or an overtime goal in the nhl playoffs.

The only difference is the sports thing rarely happens, Axl gets me almost everytime when I hear him belt  that high note in live performances of nighttrain(you know , the last time he says Loaded like a Freightrain, ...,. ).

The first time I got it was when Steve  Yzerman first hoisted the stanley cup.

Great Post by the way!

Come bitch to me when you learn to write a single sentence in norwegian.

Axls vocals still give me tingles.

The guitar work just ain't the same and it never will be.  But the other elements brought to the table make up for it. 

Thank god we still have two great musicians giving us great shit, Axl and Slash in each of their projects

I hope YOU will realize that Axl is the BEST singer not only, "out there", but E-V-E-R !!!!!!!

Good post.

He is the best singer ever, but he's not Freddie or George Michael......if you catch my drift.

bunch of hoovers : ok:

The first album that I heared was live era

Axl > All IMO

I have never experienced chills like I do when I hear Axl's voice, whether it be on the old songs or the new.
There is no-one like him!

Without Axl there is no GNR. Some of you may think this is stupid or obnoxious but without the voice VR isn't GNR, so this supports my theory (a tiny bit)

If the original line-up re-formed minus Axl it still wouldn't be GNR!

im just glad its not another damn thread about "guess when the fucking cd will be out" blah blah blah. I think its great to read something different once in a while on here : ok:

Some people never get it and keep posting the same bullshit threads over and over again.Axl is a great singer,but if it wouldn't have been for Izzy,Slash,Duff and Steven he would be a nobody.I'm just as much of a fan of the new band as anyone else,but shit like this has got to stop.

I agree with the original poster.? If you ask me, GNR was always Axl's vision.? And while I don't think it would be terribly difficult to find other guys who can play their instruments as well as or better than Slash, Duff, Izzy, Steven, <insert name of former GNR member here>, I think you would be hard-pressed to find someone who can sing and/or command a stage like Axl.? I welcome whoever Axl chooses to work with, and I think the group of people he is working with now not only do justice to the GNR name, they are GNR, at least to this fan.

And on a side note, all music sounds better when you're smoking some amazing shit.? ?:smoking:

Here is a statement to end all this bullshit Axl nutswinging:


IF Axl was in Poison instead of GNR, would anyone give a shit about him.............


The band as a collective unit was great

Axl is a great frontman but when he has a legendary timeless song singing accapella or a solo piano and voice, u can then say he WAS GNR


thats bullshit'


GNR's music is as famous as Axl's vocals.


What do u hear at sporting events?

Do u hear WTTJ or do u hear the opening of the song?  To me it seems the song always cuts off right before the vocals even start so............


GNR are a band where the riffs and solos are as legendary as any vocal melody or lyric.

So credit has to be given where it is due.


Slash's solos give me chills just as much as Axl's vocals do

I have yet to get chills from a NEw GNR solo........... but I hope and am giving them every chance to do so.

To me, a band is only as good as the sum of its parts.

I find the GNR of today just as good, if not better, than the GNR I fell in love with when I was in high school.  (AFD came out when I was in high school.)

Axl is the one thing that ties it all together.

Past, present, or future -- without Axl, there would be no GNR.

This is my opinion.  You can call it "bullshit nutswinging" if you want; I don't care.  But I do hope that you find something in the "new" GNR that gives you chills.  I guess it's a little easier for me because the chills I got then and the chills I get now are mainly from Axl's vocals.

 :peace:

Once again, U are giving all the credit to Axl with the new band as well.

They are still writing the music, they are still giving Axl the canvas to paint on lyrically and vocally.


I think people need to stop stripping the accomplishments away from the well deserving musicians that help Axl achieve his vision.


Its not like the guy is Prince playing every instrument and writing every part.

Axl is a great vocalist who needs help from other skilled people to write great songs.

He doesnt do the shit alone therefore he shouldnt get all the praise.  every member in the band past or present is important.

Oh, I totally agree with you on these points...


...That is why I said, "A band is only as good as the sum of its parts."

I just like the part that is Axl the best.? ?:yes:

Apparently others who have posted to this thread do, too.

(For the record, I paid little mind to GNR's 2002 "comeback" because I didn't like the sum of the band's parts at that time.? For whatever reasons, I like it now, though -- A LOT!)

 :peace:

Its fine if Axl is your fav member, he is my fav member also BUT...... that being said, u still have to give respect to the other guys who made that band great and u have to give respect to the guys who are makin it great now.

axl is the best....no matter who is behind him