Here Today... Gone To Hell!

Do you guys think that since we know that bumblefoots not gonna be on the album, and buckets parts are supposedly staying, that he would attend a release party of somesort? It would be cool i guess since he is on a large majority of the album and he deserves the credit for his skills.  But I also wouldn't want to hurt the band's new image without him.  I love Ron though and his style, but bucket is a crazy virtuoso.  I just wanted to know your guys thoughts on it.  Considering if its true, the recent statement about frank being on 5 tracks for cd, may not surprise me if they did let ron re-record some of buckets parts, anythings possible with this band.

If Frank has layed down contributions to the record, it would be logical to think that Bumblefoot would have had a chance to do the same since May.

Bumblefoot did record some stuff on the album... Del James said so..

No, he won't. Never.

he never said BBF recorded any songs, he said something like bbf and frank have been playing some songs that will appear on the record, but that could also mean they have rehearsed those songs, not that they have recorded anything, but since somesaid frank said he was on 5 tracks of CD BBF is prolly on the record too

Even if he only recorded 5 songs like Frank, there is still a good chance Buckethead's parts will surface on more than half the record.

No. Buckethead will , IMHO , never be back. GNR tried like CRAZY to get him back right up to a week before the kickoff shows in May. Infact they were still trying as Ron was rehearsing.  : ok:

That said , they probably would jump at the chance to have him back if he would come back. But as of now they probably would not admit that as Ron is to be made to feel like "family" and all. But let it be known that Ron would not be there if they coulda got Bucket and if the MORNING of the 1st NYC show if Bucket woulda called and said "I'm on my way" Ron would not be there now.

Peace guys.  :peace:

I think Ron knows this too. I think BH said no because there was still not release date when they asked him to come back. I would bet BH would have came back in CD was released in May before the  hammterstein gigs.

I don't understand the Del james comment about BH as you do. For me, he means they tried to get BH back in 2004, not 2006, because he spoke about Eric Cadieux and Joe Satriani to get in touch wth BBF, all that happened in 2004. Those contacts happened in 2004.

Plus, I can't see why it would have been for 2006, have you ever heard and read Tommy speaking about buckethead?
There is NO WAY the band tried to bring him back this year without Tommy's approval. and Tommy does NOT want BH back (and he is right!).
I think it's pretty obvious he meant 2004.

Who cares?

Everything happens for a reason, and with that said, Bumblefoot was destined to be in this incarnation of the band, not Buckethead.

It was 2006 also

That's not the way I understand his sentence.

It was known from people that talk to the band and or BH that gnr was trying to get BH to rejoin earlier in the year.

Unfortunately It seems Bucket wants nothing to do with GnR ever again. Axl wanted him back badly, I dunno how the rest of the band felt about it but based on what they've said about him since, I'd wager there's friction between some of the band and Bucket, which is probably the real reason why he left in the first place and why he wont come back (I doubt you'll ever see Brain back either).

Axl should just open a can of smackdown on the fuckers and move Heaven and Earth to get Bucket and Brain back.

I don't think he's going to go begging them to come back, no matter how awesome they are.
You go on tour with the GNR you have, not the GNR you wish you had.  :hihi:

They tried getting Buckethead back up until 2-3 weeks before Hammerstein. :peace:

Yeah I know it's never gonna happen but, as good as Ron is, I'm just bitter I'll never see Bucket rip into Better, TWAT, IRS and god knows what other nuggets of Bucket gold from CD.

What I think is surprising is that Axl has always kinda' given the impression that if you betray, or stab him in the back, the relationship is done.

In the initial press release about Buckethead quitting Gn'R, Axl sounds really bitter and upset concerning Bucket's departure, so I think it's rather interesting that despite that obvious resentment, Axl would persue Buckethead in attempts of having him re-join the lineup instead of just searching elsewhere for a replacement.

I guess what Buckethead brought to the album, and what his skills could offer in aiding Axl's artistic vision far outweighed the hurt feelings Axl probably felt with regards to Bucket's abrupt departure.

Me too, it's the biggest missed opportunity in GNR's long and storied history. But hell, maybe Ron will step up and melt our faces off one of these days. Time will tell.

It's an indication to just how awesome Bucket's contribution to CD are and could have been and why he should STAY ON THE ALBUM!

Or perhaps their is two sides to the story and Buckethead had decent reasons to pull out of the band. If Axl Rose could get Bumblefoot ready in 2-3 weeks to play Nyc, he most certainly could have done the same thing in 04 to play rock n rio. However, he chose not too, so who really knows how committed Axl was in 04 to getting this train moving again... for some reason he hid for 2 years again.

That was my impression as well.  I think BH is officially in GnR's past at this point...

Sadly..... :-\

I am going to sorely miss Bucket. If it weren't for GNR, I wouldn't have heard of him. Wish my 2 favorites were still together, but I don't see it happening.

what where the reasons he left?  Can anyone give some details?

I am curious about the supposed tensions between Bucket and the other members of the band..Tommy talked smack..that's all i know of..But people keep saying that Bucket and Robin didnt get along either..Where did that come from? I do think if Chinese Democracy is released with Bucket on it then he will have to deal with it in some way..Lets face it.As virtuoso as he is..every single reference to him in terms of media and print will refer him as a former gunner, like they already do..As much as Bucket seems to want to distance himself from GNR, the reality is that a good portion of his fan base was introduced to him via his stint with GNR

Robin was probably pissed Bucket got such a longer solo on the tour and that he could play him under the table.

IMO its  because there was no album in site. GH puts out like 2 albums a year, gnr while BH ws in the band didnt put out one. And its still not out. That is why I dont think he came back this time.

That's a big reason I think. This year, for example, he's put out 3 new CDs, at least.

I remember you said Buckethead actually broke his contract with Gn'R when he quit, and I still think its going to be interesting how Buckethead will financially profit from his contributions to CD, given that fact.

If that were the case Robin would be pissed at Ron as well.

Besides, Axl gave interviews saying the two were not getting along that great even before they played live. In fact, I think they started getting along better as the tour went on.

Hey, If I were Robin and was with Axl for those years and when they finally "debubted" Axl hired some guy that wears a bucket and a mask to play lead guitar.  :nervous: And I love Bucket so dont say i'm hating ;D im just saying imagine what Robin was thinking...

Bucket was hired to replace Robin after he left.

Robin had left the band at the time Buckethead joined. Robin was back with Nine Inch Nails at that time.
IIRC, Robin didn't return to the GnR fold until about 4 months before HOB 2001. Also, there is a version of CITR with Robin playing instead of Brian May. NO, I DON'T HAVE IT!
 ?I just remember some site having an interview with Brian May from 2000 where he discusses recording CITR. In that interview he said he was asked to record parts for the song because Axl's guitarist had just left the band, so Axl didn't want to use his parts.


Funny- When Bucket was in the band, nobody wanted him there. Now that he's gone everyone (well, not everyone, but you get the point) wants him back.

What did Tommy say? I've never read anything about how the guys feel about BH.

Isn't that what always happens.

Interesting. Does anyone have any interview with Brian May? I know its around but I never had a chance to download it.   :beer:

Why would buckethead be around?  He's not in the band.

Well he wasn't in the band before this tour and Axl still wanted him around. Never know with these guys.

Ron is solid but Bucket will always be missed. His sound and image works great with the band. I wish Tommy didnt bad mouth him and I wish Bucket would come back and realize that he, Axl and Robin can be such a dymnamic force for the next few yrs...o well....atleast we have some tapes and leaks...

btw that new intro they play with the sounds and stuff and the noise that builds up to CD sounds like a Bucket imprint as well as the leaks....I bet anything he added to the album is golden...lets just hope Axl keeps it....whatever is the best material is what I want from 01 and on......


BUCKET COME BACK!!!

BUCKET COME BACK!!!   :peace:

I haven't. What's he saying ?

IMO Buckethead won't be around, and I'm glad with that. Never liked him in GN'R.

well u might as well bring slash, duff, and the rest of the old gang 1.

 :hihi:

I bet thats wot Axl and Tommy had a row about before they kissed and made up in front of every1

 ???

"Do you think buckethead will be around when cd comes out?"

He'll be long dead.... dead as a doornail. jk..... don't want him back... never liked him. Ron kicks ass!!!! He looks like one of nicest guys I've ever seen.

BYE BUCKYHEAD!!!!!! PLEASE BRING BRAIN BACK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Buckethead will be around with his nunchakus ! ;D

I say... "Bucket WHO??????"

He's in my ass, that's where Buckethead is.

axl's ass must be huge to fit both slash and buckethead....

Maybe Axl didnt like the parts Ron recorded, so is trying to get buckethead back again? :nervous:

I highly doubt that. Ron is such a wonderful guitarist and is doing a great job in the band. One the side note...If anyone is as good as Bucket and to play his parts just as well I'd be Robin, and he's on CD automatically. So no worries.

They wont bring Bucky back, even though I would LOVE it, hes gone and wont be back.  I miss him, he so SEXY !!!!....keekee :D

I just hope that his parts on CD haven't been scratched... That would be the end.

bh is really missed. the band lost a lot when he left. just compare the shows with the bucket and without...no comparison. i went to most of the 2000-2002 shows with bh and many of the shows on the current tour.....bh is greatly missed, as is brain...

I don't want buckethead back. Slash it is, if someone should rejoin the band.  : ok:

Im not sure i will even buy CD if bucket isnt on it, his work (especially TWAT is amazing).
Thats if it ever comes out of course.