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Title: Why all the negativity?
Post by: feestybaby on November 15, 2006, 02:36:55 PM
Come on guys (and girls!) the album will be out this year! I love this board as it keeps me informed on everything Gnr related but everyone seems to be getting a little uncertain....This is Guns n Roses it isnt going to be a normal album launch, far from it I expect! As for comparisons to 02 well thats just silly, we've had a huge euro tour without any real issues, we've had the (deliberate) leaks to get a buzz started, the website is up and running with footage and regular (ish) updates, the harley commercial on the 19th (think its the 19th), Axl has been out and about all over the place including MTV, the mj fox benefit, all kinds of partys and each time the album has been mentioned HE himself has said this year. I cant wait but i am certain it will be out this year and that the wheels will begin to turn with the commercial....so chins up folks, chinese democracy begins 11/06 ps citr better be on the album  :o


Title: Re: Why all the negativity?
Post by: marty on November 15, 2006, 02:38:42 PM
I'm not being negative, far from it  ;D happiest ive been ages just from the thought of CD  :peace:


Title: Re: Why all the negativity?
Post by: bushkarocks!! on November 15, 2006, 02:44:31 PM
even if the cd doesnt come out  it was a big great year for us guns n roses fans

good europe tour america not bad to , some nice leaks  and asxl shows his face again in public

ofcourse a cd will make it greater then it already is

but for now i am a satisfied fan  (never thougth i would have seen gnr in 2006 )

/bushkarocks!


Title: Re: Why all the negativity?
Post by: killerbee_vr6 on November 15, 2006, 03:00:42 PM
As happy I am that they are on tour, I'm gonna have to give up if it doesn't come out this year. I can't see the guys sticking around much longer without an album of their own. Back in '96 I figured I'd never get to see GnR again, and I've gotten to see 4 more shows since then, which im grateful for. The media and general public has almost completely written them off, and I think yet another tour with no album will seal their fate.


Title: Re: Why all the negativity?
Post by: Mandy. on November 15, 2006, 03:03:25 PM
Why all the negativity?

Because this is a GNR board.


Title: Re: Why all the negativity?
Post by: gnr2k on November 15, 2006, 03:04:22 PM
I really believe it is coming this time! ?There is too much pressure on Axl to deliver this time. I won't get cuaght up in the rumors though. ?All we can do is wait ?:peace:


Title: Re: Why all the negativity?
Post by: The Legend on November 15, 2006, 03:05:07 PM
Why all the negativity?

Because this is a GNR board.

Exactly.

Some people live and breathe to see this whole thing fail.


Title: Re: Why all the negativity?
Post by: Ines_rocks! on November 15, 2006, 03:05:22 PM
yeah... but this kind of threads (what?s with all the negativity? bla bla) r getting as boring as the negative ones.. believe me... we just need the truth, official statements, not BS that get all of us fucking insane.... ::)


Title: Re: Why all the negativity?
Post by: busngabb on November 15, 2006, 03:08:44 PM
Because we could easily use the search function and simply bump an identical post to this from 2000, 2001, 2002, 2003, 2004 and 2005.

It's gone on too long and here we are being told to be patient because it will be out this year. Will it balls. Remeber that "2005 is the year of Guns n' Roses".


Title: Re: Why all the negativity?
Post by: GNRSANDMAN on November 15, 2006, 03:10:37 PM
The continued lack of information. They finally get a web site, not a piece of crap like before, and sorry guys not a whole lot of info on there....... ?There was finally a good acticle on there and the thing was taken down in 2 hours.

And this "surprise" release date thing is just like......... release the damm thing already!!

I'm sure that if I was able to see them live that would tide me over but San Diego got resceduled till the end. ? :crying:


Title: Re: Why all the negativity?
Post by: ppbebe on November 15, 2006, 03:18:08 PM
Majority of us are not negative at all.

Most people are apt to focus on the negativity and ignore positive things.  Whether they are the press, the GNr fan board members, or the GNR camp.
Remember no matter how positive you are you're still counted among "the 300 of you that spread a negativity".

The strongest of a chain is its weakest link, you know. :no:


Title: Re: Why all the negativity?
Post by: GNFNRAXL on November 15, 2006, 03:34:32 PM
Why all the negativity?

Because this is a GNR board.

Exactly.

Some people live and breathe to see this whole thing fail.

Last thing I want is for GNR to fail.  I even bet a 100$ that they would release Chinese Democracy this year.  But all signs are pointing to another empty year.


Title: Re: Why all the negativity?
Post by: ppbebe on November 15, 2006, 03:57:51 PM
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But all signs are pointing to another empty year.

Where are those signs? GNR has been touring and getting better review each nite. news about the band comes in like every other day. How is it empty?


Title: Re: Why all the negativity?
Post by: BigBoss on November 15, 2006, 04:01:59 PM
Come on guys (and girls!) the album will be out this year! I love this board as it keeps me informed on everything Gnr related but everyone seems to be getting a little uncertain....This is Guns n Roses it isnt going to be a normal album launch, far from it I expect! As for comparisons to 02 well thats just silly, we've had a huge euro tour without any real issues, we've had the (deliberate) leaks to get a buzz started, the website is up and running with footage and regular (ish) updates, the harley commercial on the 19th (think its the 19th), Axl has been out and about all over the place including MTV, the mj fox benefit, all kinds of partys and each time the album has been mentioned HE himself has said this year. I cant wait but i am certain it will be out this year and that the wheels will begin to turn with the commercial....so chins up folks, chinese democracy begins 11/06 ps citr better be on the album? :o

I hope CITR is on the album too, its my favorite of the new songs by far. I dont feel negtive personally, I guess I am just waiting for the other shoe to drop. I think we are all conditioned to be prepared for letdowns as GNR fans, and I guess I am starting to see one coming. I hope that Im wrong though.


Title: Re: Why all the negativity?
Post by: Mandy. on November 15, 2006, 04:05:55 PM
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But all signs are pointing to another empty year.

Where are those signs? GNR has been touring and getting better review each nite. news about the band comes in like every other day. How is it empty?

I'm sure he meant empty as in a "no new record" kinda thing.


Title: Re: Why all the negativity?
Post by: ppbebe on November 15, 2006, 04:33:27 PM
And I'm sure this year is not empty.

Basically no year was empty either for the people who have worked on the record. What empty is some people sitting back and posting whatever comes across their unstable minds with great sense of irresponsibility.


Title: Re: Why all the negativity?
Post by: charlesfosterkane on November 15, 2006, 04:36:49 PM
its human nature for people to be negative. fans have been bit, or they see themselves as being bit, a few times now (i feel bit, even tho i know no one bit me, or meant to bite me-- you know?) when the album comes out people will complain about it not being good enough or as good as appetite or whatever. then in 5 years or whenever the next album comes out they'll complain about how its not as good as chinese democracy. remember the good old days? remember when robin finck still kicked ass?


Title: Re: Why all the negativity?
Post by: D on November 15, 2006, 04:38:48 PM
Negativity is warranted.



WE on this forum have lived through so much bullshit it aint even funny.


the whole 2002 debacle should've killed us but we held strong

And now having Axl and Merck both guarantee a 2006 release, if they dont come through, It is gonna be  a super huge blow to all of the loyal followers who have supported Axl when others didnt even know he was still alive.



Title: Re: Why all the negativity?
Post by: masterdan on November 15, 2006, 04:52:34 PM
Yea, I'll still be happy even if the album doesn't come out for some reason--I get to see GNR at the Bradley Center in exactly 2 weeks!  Yea baby!!! : ok: lol


Title: Re: Why all the negativity?
Post by: ppbebe on November 15, 2006, 05:15:45 PM
Yea, I'll still be happy even if the album doesn't come out for some reason--I get to see GNR at the Bradley Center in exactly 2 weeks!  Yea baby!!! : ok: lol

That's the spirit!  : ok:

things never stop moving.  even if we end up not seeing the new record this year, these downloading mother fuckers right here got hell lots of boots that include nearly half materials off it and the leeks.  some people even heard the whole.
It won't be so long till we see it for real.

This is all about being positive. Live and let the negativity die.


Title: Re: Why all the negativity?
Post by: masterdan on November 15, 2006, 05:21:00 PM
Does anyone think that more tracks will be leaked if the album doesn't come out?  ???


Title: Re: Why all the negativity?
Post by: ppbebe on November 15, 2006, 05:27:08 PM
I don't think any more demo will be leaked before the album comes out.


Title: Re: Why all the negativity?
Post by: November_Rain on November 15, 2006, 05:30:43 PM
Axl is not stupid, he knows what he?s doing and if he said the record would be out this year is because it?s true. Some people never learn, GNR play their own rules and things will happen when they have to happen, not when we want them to happen.

They have been working very hard all these years and they want to do things right, but THEIR way,not ours. Unfortunately,negativity has always followed this band even in the old days and they carried on and I think now it?s the same.There?s a lot of negativity from some fans and from some parts of the media but they will go on and the day we less expect it, they will shut a lot of mouths.

I?ve always loved this band and Axl has always been my favourite singer and nothing will change that. With or without CD,this band will always be my favourite and will never give up. So, that?s why I don?t understand why people are so negative towards them,we are owed  nothing and a lot of people take it all very personal,as if the whole CD situation affected their lives when it actually  doesn?t.


Title: Re: Why all the negativity?
Post by: ben9785 on November 15, 2006, 05:44:46 PM
Indeed guys. You're all great people. Axl should never take for granted the people here who have stuck through all the shit and still believe in Guns N Roses. The negativity is just frustration. When the album is released, we will all come together equally and put all the differences aside because it won't matter anymore, it will be the past, we will all have the album and we can really start to look into the future. Like November_Rain said, they go by their own watch, their own rules, there's just nothing we can do ourselves to change that short of taking somebody hostage or putting a gun to someone's head or whatever. They have said repeatedly the album will be out this year, Axl has mentioned it in the past but I don't think he's been as specific as saying "this year, definitely". Sure a year is a long time but hey it doesn't matter, we're getting close to the end of the year now, and as others I hope we can send out this great Guns N Roses year with the release of the album. I get frustrated just like all of you guys but we're jumping ahead, again, this a band who doesn't work like others, they're a big band, they've got ridiculous financial and marketing resources available at hand, we can keep speculating but we just don't know what they're going to do. We need to give them until January 2007. Again I can completely understand people's dissapointment but please guys and gals, don't get too far ahead of yourselves yet, there's still weeks until the year ends. They can do anything. No matter how ridiculous or far fetched any idea or speculation may seem, nothing should be assumed or ruled out. It will come. Just stay positive as much as you can. It's not the end of the world either. We're all in this together. No need to get pissed off or upset or annoyed or frustrated. Hang in there. We're all trying.


Title: Re: Why all the negativity?
Post by: Joblow on November 15, 2006, 05:57:10 PM
Axl is not stupid, he knows what he?s doing and if he said the record would be out this year is because it?s true. Some people never learn, GNR play their own rules and things will happen when they have to happen, not when we want them to happen.

Hummm. I dont understand why alot of the poeple around here relate this band to the old one. This band isnt "dangerous" or "play their own rules". The members of this band all came from different back grounds and such. I think some are 4 getting that the reason the old band was so good is because THEY didnt give a shit, THEY played it by their rules. THEY loved to play rock n roll and werent going to let anyone stop them. Todays band is totally diff, the only thing holding them back is Axl.


Title: Re: Why all the negativity?
Post by: ppbebe on November 15, 2006, 06:02:16 PM
whatever. lets not drag that dead horse into this thread.

try and list the names of those 'so' negative people here and you'll be surprised to know they are actually not large in number.

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"this year, definitely"

a little correction.  "this year, absolutely"  ;D


Title: Re: Why all the negativity?
Post by: November_Rain on November 15, 2006, 06:09:17 PM
Axl is not stupid, he knows what he?s doing and if he said the record would be out this year is because it?s true. Some people never learn, GNR play their own rules and things will happen when they have to happen, not when we want them to happen.

Hummm. I dont understand why alot of the poeple around here relate this band to the old one. This band isnt "dangerous" or "play their own rules". The members of this band all came from different back grounds and such. I think some are 4 getting that the reason the old band was so good is because THEY didnt give a shit, THEY played it by their rules. THEY loved to play rock n roll and werent going to let anyone stop them. Todays band is totally diff, the only thing holding them back is Axl.
I wasn?t saying whether this band is dangerous or not. Basically what I meant was that Axl and GNR are doing things their way, Axl?s always done it, with the old band and now with the current band too.And the fact that the current band members come from different backgrounds just contributes to enrich this band musically,IMO.