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... if cd is really gonna be released this year a video for the first single must have been shot already. no rumours about that floating around the internet? could it be that gnr will be having a single without a video (like with "ain't it fun"); what do you guys know / think?

I think the first video will be a live one, and will also help promote the remaining leg of the tour/future dvd release.

would not want a "live"-video... no way.

It'll probably be a studio track with live footage like Live And Let Die kind of...

Maybe with the Hammerstein footages ?

the first single should not be brought to the masses by the means of a "live and let die" kind of video... it should be something more innovative.

axl have done that "live" videos a couple of times with live and let die, paradise city and dead horse so if there is a video for the first single it's prolly gonna be a "live" one

Atleast it is pretty  safe to assume that it is impossible for a band like GNR to start filming a music video of "typical" scale and somehow manage to keep it secret.Hundreds of people involved, thousands of memos passed around, all that jazz.
I personally find it hard to believe that even something very limited..like some live footage-thing could be done in secret. Well maybe it could.But who the hell would do that, or want to see that, really? As a music video for the  first single,  that is.

If you've ever seen the Foo Fighters video for "Best of You", I think something similar could be really easy to film quietly.

A performance in a smallish room somewhere, cut in with footage from nature, wars, news etc.

Keep the production crew down really low and have them sign release forms to prevent them blabbing.(This would work best if the time between shooting and TV premiere was really short such as a week).

Personally i'd love to see another video like estranged, patience, don't cry, november rain and since i dont have you. I reckon that style of video is just extrememly entertaining. ?: ok:
The live video ones are alright, but it doesnt seem to express the song as much as an acted video..
i dunno...lol

Why does this album need a single , it has 13 years of advertising behind it. Everybody asumnes it needs a single.

Or cover art for that matter?

An occasional Hit Parader/Rolling Stone  journalist mentioning "Yepppp, still no CD" as a part of his column 3 times a year doesn't count as advertising or PR.

Why not to release a single?

Singles are defining songs. With out singles, there would be no definition of the album. That means no interest to hear the rest of the music by possible new fans.

I don't think we will see a single , except for a HD ad or something. Factoring in radio airtime avilability , marketing , this is really weird I have never seen A ARTISTS take this route , when it comes to buying a album.

I seem to remember some website that told you information on when/where bands were booked to be recording videos etc.
Maybe I dreamt it, but I swear GnR were on there not long again. No idea what the address was unfortunately.

Well now they have the Euro and US tour footage, so the best bits from all I would have guessed. Maybe shots of 2 different shows, with one show in black & white, like the Paradise City video?

Rumors said that they recorded a video in England this summer.

the sheep video proved that GNR could make a video without anyone knowing about it.

GNR didn't make that video. If this was a HD fan board I'm sure we'd known.

I highly doubt that.

That would just show half-assed-ness.

They need to kick it off with a concept video.

I hear the sheep filmed and directed the video themselves. Crafty animals!

Bands still make music videos?

I don't even think they should bother with doing a video. MTV doesn't really show vids anymore except for at like 2 AM. I'd like to see them air a concert on MTV or VH1 instead. Hell, they could even air the Rock Am Ring concert for all i care, since the majority of the usa hasn't seen it yet.

go to http://www.mtv.com/#/ and you can watch almost every single video gnr ever made

i thought that thats why axl wore the same clothing at the hammerstein shows
so he could get some video footage

I hope they do a quasi-live thing! With just Fortus smashing his guitar over and over.

i've seen some cool ideas on youtube actually...some so shitty you wanna fall on the floor and put your cig out in your own eye ball, but some so good and so professional looking you wish the band would just buy the rights and release it to mtv.  oh wait, mtv doesn't show videos...

but really, i think the band is wearing the same clothes the whole tour not just cuz they like to season their outfits, but cuz they're filming footage to possibly use in future videos and perhaps a live dvd.  some day, anyway.

Axl said during the Eddie Trunk interview that he thinks GNR's past videos are corny, but he enjoyed filming them.

So I'd expect either a modern concept for a new video or a video that contains just live footage.

Yeah but MTV only shows the same 10 videos every single day on TRL. I don't see GNR ending up on there, so why make a video?

Yeah, I think they said that was going to be used for a future DVD..but there's no reason why they can't make a video for the new single using live footage they shot from these shows. It could be promo for the dvd as well, but ideally they'd want to release the dvd sometime soon for the promotion to be efficient. Similar to what another high profile band did, they had a particular song on an album coming out (although it was well after the release of the album itself), and they had a live dvd coming out about that time so they simply used a live clip of that particular song from the dvd as the official promotional video for that single, so it was kind of cross promoting the single/album and the live dvd.

And maybe for the release of "Better" if it is the first single, they can have a live clip of the song from the New York shows with live audio as the video clip until the official release of the single/album, to avoid any leaks etc. I know there is one band who did this, they had a live version of their single as promo prior to the release of the single/album, and after that they used the live footage with the audio from the studio version

Dude, when I saw Best Of You I thought that would have been a killer video for Better.

And if the same people who did the "best of" cover art did the video we would never know it had been made. They did The Original Fire for audioslave and use a lot of cool computer animation.

btw, Fuse and MTV2 still play videos

There's quite a few channels in the UK that play rock and alternative vids 24/7.

only "music nerds" know/heard about it.
average joe doesnt give a fuck, and doesnt know about it.

go ask your friends...

He was the one who insisted on paying millions on making crazy videos!