Here Today... Gone To Hell!

(Updating) Setlist:
1. Welcome To The Jungle
2. It's So Easy
3. Mr. Brownstone
4. Live And Let Die
5. Knockin' On Heavens Door
6. Robin Finck Solo
7. Sweet Child O' Mine
8. You Could Be Mine
9. Dizzy Reed Piano Solo
10. The Blues
11. Better
12. Band Introductions/Richard-Robin Solo [Beautiful]
13. Out Ta Get Me
14. Band Jam/November Rain
15. Down On The Farm!!!
16. Bumblefoot Solo [Don't Cry]
17. My Michelle [With Sebastian Bach]
18. Used To Love Her
19. Patience
20. Nightrain
----ENCORE-----
21. Chinese Democracy
22. Paradise City
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I'll be receiving updates for this show from Cleopatra2U at www.gnr2k.com I'll post the updates here. What I'll do is update this post with the setlist, so you can use this thread for discussion also. Thanks Cleopatra2U for the updates!  :)  GNR will be on in around 24 hours  ;D...........

so updates will be in your first post , and then we can discuss the show under that , this cancels the need for multiple threads

man , we make a great team ,lol

Ill be there tonight as well.

Cool, thanks for doing updates tonight guys.   : ok: 

For those that are going, have an awesome time.   :beer:

how are the ticket sales for this show?

I'll be there tonight as well :beer:
We're all heading out to downtown as soon as I get done some last minute lurking  ;)

I was just able to pull up 8 GA tix for this show. ?So get down there and go if you are in the area!!! :peace:

Thanks for doing the updates EFISH!

I'll be there tonight.  General admission all the way.  I can't wait.  :beer:

i just called 1st Mariner Arena in Baltimore and they allow NO cameras of any type for tonight's show.

That said, ima sneak in a recorder and tape that sunovabitch...wish me luck...

No cameras?  WTF?  I guess I'll just have to use my phone.

Il be there, along with my girlfriend and mother, two first timers. I'l try to write a review and also let you guys know what they think.

From the bottom of my heart I wish you good luck.

thanks for updating us e fish and Cleopatra2U.

Have a big blast everyone. :beer:

They ALWAYS say that. Outisde Estero they were saying NO CAMERA'S! and put up signs saying that. Well I was the very first one in and they didnt even pat me down. Only had a disposable camera but if I had known I would have brought a video camera! Also, Earl (I THINK thats his name) who's the head of security for GNR and is always down there stopped one of the security guards from tkaing away some girls digital camera and said "we allow camera's as long as they dont have those professional lenses" So I guess GNR doesnt really care that much, its only the venue and getting it in. Also if they find it, theyll say step to the side, so step to the side, and 5 seconds later walk in and they wont care.  ;D

great that earl is still around :yes:

I get names confused. Isnt EARL Axl's old bodyguard. In that case, Im just getting mixed up. Anyway, here is the person I am talking about....
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a177/EFish91/17-Photo17-2.jpg

The guy on the left.

Thats not Earl, I think Earl is no longer with Axl.

YYAAAYYY Robin!!

Nope, that's not Earl :hihi:

Yeah I know  :-[ Well I know for a fact he is head of GNR security, and know for a fact that he said that about cameras.  :D

Earl is Axl's Black body guard that was in Estranged no? be very neat if he was STILL his body guard.

that man on the left is Gio giovanetti , ex head of security for metallica , now security for Axl rose and co.

Good Luck!! Have a good time.

Thanks EFISH and Cleopatra2U!!!   : ok:
One question:? the updates will be posted in the discussion part too, right??

to everyone who's going tonight ... HAVE A GREAT TIME!!!? :headbanger:

Yeah, Ill update the first post and then I guess every song or two or whatever will just post the setlist. But yeah, we dont need like 4 threads for each show so just talk in this one, its not a big deal. Cheers! The HTGTH people are partyin' now  :)

What are the opening bands? When should GnR be on? I'm gonna go but since i have to leave for work at 5:30am i wanna get as much sleep before hand as possible

From Cleo:

About to enter arena.  Security found my camera.  They gave me the option to returning the camera to my room.  So I'M having another beer.  :-)

I saw at mygnr that Suicide Girls are on now

I will be interested to hear the reviews :hihi:

They have obviously changed the order of performances then... Bach will go on at 9 instead of 8

Yes, confirmed by Bach in an email to someone here.  SG then Bach.

Thanks for the updates guys!

you've shattered my impression of him EFISH  :hihi:

thanks for the updates, and cleo, if you do get to see/talk to the band by chance, tell them we've learned the release date.  then maybe they'll start chit-chatting with you about it and let it slip, and then we'll get our answer (i can dream, can't i?).

I'm not at the show.  ;) I'm getting texts from Cleopatra4u ;D

just fixed my silly mistake  : ok:

Efish    You have a real cell phone now! :rofl: :rofl:

No. She's texting it to my AIM screename.  :rofl: :rofl:

(You post this in every update thread!)  :hihi: :hihi:

 I posted it in one of your youtube videos as well! :hihi: :hihi:

I'm in the parking deck across the street from the arena - hanging here for a while since Axl likely won't be on until much later.  Bach evidently just started..... not very crowded down here!

maybe they will hit the stage earlier now  ???

Why would they?

Baz didn't go on until about 9:15 according to the radio......figure he's not done now.

well i like baz and all but a 30-40 min set from him could hold me for a few years

just figure he wouldn't play a much longer set than that

It did occur to me that I've chosen to sit in my car and watch a hockey game on the net rather than go listen to Baz.  To be honest, I'd probably have already gone in were it not for the high possibility of a 90 minute break between bands.

Hopefully someone inside will report if it starts!!!!!  The local radio is doing a good job reporting on it as well.  (98 ROCK)

Mr. Marino,

Did you bring your wife with you this time as well, or was hammerstein enough for her?  (probably the pre-party was all she needed to see)  ;D I was thinking about making the trip down from Del. since they skipped Philly this time around, but just couldn't make it.  Hope you have a great time..

Hey there!!!!!  Nope....she's home with the kids watching the Bachelor:Rome.  :))  I'm here alone this time....although I do have 2 friends that are inside somewhere.

Well, have a great time, and be sure to give a review afterwards.  I'm interested to see how you think it compares to Hammerstein after they have so many more shows under their belt now.  I'm jealous, but still hoping they play Camden or AC after the first of the year..  Have one for me..  :beer:

WELCOME TO THE JUNGLE

woohoo.  11.10pm start i take it?

Yeah, started like a minute ago!

Again, thank you for the continued updates EFISH it is greatly appreciated. And thanks to the provider/s-of-the-updates-to-EFISH also

Let's see how this show goes.

Its So Easy

thanks for posting it inside the thread as well as in the first post!!  : ok:

You know I'm a post whore. ;)  ;D

Mr. Brownstone

 :rofl:

Thanks for doing this EFISH!!! : ok:

Thanks Efish  ;D

LALD.

FULL Crowd . . . Pyro scarin folks LOL

KNOCKIN

Damnit I knew I shoulda gone to this show

i think after all these updates EFISH keeps doin for everyone,he should have his - karmas reduced or reset.wadda you guys think.we should start a petition  :hihi:

yeah, EFISH is tha man, he should have possitive karma for his efforts!
I love when he writes using ''bold''  :hihi:

I do that when I'm just copy/pasting what the updater, in this case Cleo sends me.  ;D

Very nice applause 4 kohd.  Axl says this is the home of one of  his favorite shows "the wire" 

ROBIN SOLO
SCOM

Edit: applause.  crowd loves it. I am only one not standing, singing (i prefer rockers to ballads)

You Could Be Mine
PYRO!

1. Welcome To The Jungle
2. It's So Easy
3. Mr. Brownstone
4. Live And Let Die
5. Knockin' On Heavens Door
6. Robin Finck Solo
7. Sweet Child O' Mine
8. You Could Be Mine
9. Dizzy Solo
10. The Blues

Little Axl mike problems. And no more beer :(

no more beer for who??

I guess the venue ran out. She wanted beer!  ;D  :-\

This is another great show people the crowd are fuckin awesome. Sorry i havnt updated the last two shows havin too much of a good time ?

You there? Ahh rock the fuck on! :headbanger:

maybe the venue cut it off at midnight?? I don't know ... just a guess on my part

tell everyone to come to mine,i have plenty ?:hihi:

how are you updatin from the show dude

EFISH can't do the updates unless he's drunk....

Better


 :no: :no: School tomorrow.  >:( ;D

From my mobile phone im at the front behind mr brownstone btw richard solo

Snap a pic if you can?  ;D


From Cleo:
good response to better.  Axl introducing band.  FORTUS SOLO.

nice one.is it packed out?

Send up email eric ill send ya one yes its busy

EFISH ... you should send it to him in a PM

12. Band Introductions/Richard-Robin Solo [Beautiful]
13. Out Ta Get Me


Chuckles when they played beautiful.  :-[ ;D

They've really got to stop doing that...

Take that one to heart!  I yell for TWAT; I get looked at like crazy.  :P Atmospheric keyboards/band jam/NR


Band Jam/November Rain


Axl, piano, sunglasses, NR

I think thats the momentum killer right there...I like Better out of all the leaks but I.R.S. rocks much harder live..hopefully they play it tonight.

Here's an awesome picture thanks to Anythinggoes!!

(http://img291.imageshack.us/img291/4851/image648fl1.jpg)

Thanks dude, now go rock out! :headbanger:

Indeed - The more I hear the live versions of IRS, the more I feel like it might actually be the better song of the two. Here's hoping they bust it out tonight.

Yeah, I like IRS more after hearing it live. And I love the extra solo that Robin plays too.

Sweet Jesus, get this band back to Europe :drool:

Fookin' awesome.

yay!

i hope we have a clearer bootleg of DOTF than the one from 11/8.

Hopefully anythinggoes is recording like he usually does.  :drool:

DOTF another sweet song live!  Did he give the speech about not playing it in 15 years besides WV??

It was played in Worchester too. And I dont know :)

And we have a front audience shot of do t f now a caught it may be bit blurred at times but we will have to wait til wednesday for me to upload it

YOU ARE SO AWESOME!! ROCK ON!!

NICEE!  Can't wait to hear it again...never really liked it before..now I"m a big fan of the song since hearing it live!

i read the last part of the sentence first and thought they were playing don't cry. ?;D
oh well. ?i'm happy they've added DOTF to some shows. ?maybe they'll play "You're Crazy" tonight too?

My Michelle [With Bach]

USED TO LOVE HER

(Ironically Im listening to that now)  :P

Patience

(and hah! Im listening to that now too!  ;D)

Hey you Ms. Poonis Wrangler or whoever the hell you are, seriously, you just come off as lame when you post and delete them two minutes later.  Also, your avatar is offensive and stupid even if it is just a joke.  Your sig is dumb too; if you don't like this place, then don't post here, its simple as that.

Now back to your regularly scheduled program.

Very satisfying setlist so far...if they play TWAT that crowd is in for a real treat...

i still don't understand why everyone is so excited to see Down on the Farm. ?It's not even in the top half of Gn'R songs.

Now if they broke out a Don't Damn Me, Coma, Garden of Eden, Estranged or Civil War that'd be good reason to go nuts. ?But Down of the Farm? ?Meh. ?I'd almost rather hear every other Gn'R song in the catalog (even though I do like the song..).

we like the fact that they're playing DOTF because they haven't played it in 15 years.  : ok:

But it's something different and interesting, yknow? It's a fun song as well =]

You'd rather hear "My World" then? I don't think so!!!

Indeed. If they busted out a good song, I'd be excited. But people are just excited about DotF because it's something different... But different doesn't necessarily mean good.

NIGHTRAIN :headbanger:

Not all of us share your opinion dude.  I personally love DOTF!  Baaahhaaaaa..........hold still!  :hihi:

DOTF is is my favorite song from Spaghetti incident, I've liked the tune ever since I heard the live version from Farm Aid. As Axl said, that song rocks!

Yeah "Ain't It Fun" is my fav off TSI but DOTF rocks all the same.  This is a cover that this band can make their own but still has a connection to the GNR of old.  Man this is sweet.  I've got 3 weeks to go until my back-to-back shows in Everett and Portland and I'm just sitting here watching updates here and GNR videos from 11/10 at MSG on youtube.  Pretty sweet.  Thx for the updates EFISH.

Encore time, I assume? Hmm... CD or Madagascar....

See you in Portland, Evergreen!  :beer:

Followed by Paradise City...glad another great show can now be added to the books.  BRING ON CD DAMN IT!!

What's with the lack of Madagascar on this tour anyway? ?I was a little disapointed that they didn't play it in Jersey.. wasn't there only 1 show the whole tour which it's been played? ?Strange, as it's been pretty much a main staple.

--
btw, my favorite song off of TSI? is Raw Power.

PARADISE CITY


FINAL SETLIST:

1. Welcome To The Jungle
2. It's So Easy
3. Mr. Brownstone
4. Live And Let Die
5. Knockin' On Heavens Door
6. Robin Finck Solo
7. Sweet Child O' Mine
8. You Could Be Mine
9. Dizzy Reed Piano Solo
10. The Blues
11. Better
12. Band Introductions/Richard-Robin Solo [Beautiful]
13. Out Ta Get Me
14. Band Jam/November Rain
15. Down On The Farm!!!
16. Bumblefoot Solo [Don't Cry]
17. My Michelle [With Sebastian Bach]
18. Used To Love Her
19. Patience
20. Nightrain
----ENCORE-----
21. Chinese Democracy
22. Paradise City


Great, long show! Good fucking night!

Seems like another good show. Hope we can get some quality bootlegs out of this tour.

And what comes to DOTF, I have always loved the song. Especially the live version from Farm Aid, and of course I'm very excited when they play it : ok:

Ok, now Ill let you guys know that I'll be recieving updates and pictures for the show in Toronto on Wednesday thanks to jbenzz  :beer: :beer: :beer:


Thanks Cleo for tonights updates!!

do any of you realised that Guns N' Roses performed, the last 10 shows in a row, eighteen FULL songs in their setlist?

God Bless this band.

Awsome. Thanks for the updates. Looking forward to any Toronto pics ;D :beer:

For a major touring act with top line tickets over $75.00 that is to be expected. If anything it is a little on the low side. I hope I get lucky next week like a few cities so far and see the more extended setlist, I am keeping my fingers crossed.

the original is far better
no one can duplicate iggy and the stooges
although I still think the gnr version is great

Just got back from the show....AWESOME !!!  Band played great, Axl sounded great, the Suicide Girls were a very pleasant surprise, Bach really got the crowd energized !  Only disappointment no Rocket Queen and no TWAT.  But the whole show was awesome.  1st Mariner was a great arena for a concert, I sat in row A of 207, saw everything perfectly.  Id say not counting the upper tier, the place was 70-75% packed which isnt bad for a Monday night, the floor was totally packed.
Alittle interesting tidbit, during Bach's time, he said thanks to the crowd for allowing him to play some new stuff, and he said how some bands play the same  songs over and over, or something very similar to those lines.   I guess he never heard a new GNR concert ::)
Axl was in a good mood, I guess alittle sick he had a box of tissues on the stage.  The band is AWESOME, if they had a little promotion and the new CD, who knows how far they can go.

I love both versions but I think Gn'R's is still better.. and it's sad they never played it live 'cause I'd like to hear Duff yelling that "I WANNA KNOOOW!" -thing before outro part.

just got ?back fuckin show was amazing - I will post a review tomorow. ?Took pics with a digital camera. ?Recorded the entire show on my voice recorder i have no idea how the quality is - I was against the railing just right of center. ?If i figure out how to get it on my comp I will post the entire show

Just got back too - will post more details tomorrow.   Axl and the band both sounded in TOP form.

You need to hear the band do this one live before you judge.  It's GREAT.

so,did they not play paradise city?

I just got back from this show. It was awesomeI met some people that talk on this board/other's .I was front row and I touch(Twice) Finck during PC and I got Bumblefoot's guitar pick. I dont have any pics cause I didn't wanna get kick out if they found one on me,But nobody cared about cameras during the show.... I was kinda mad about it...overall it was a great show!!!!

-The Perfect Crime chant didn't work....lol
-Down On The Farm was great!



Later

Congrats to those that were there and had a great time.  Thanks EFISH for keeping up with the updates for everyone.  Sounds like another awesome show in the books.

Awesome , glad you all had a blast! :beer:

Just got back as well. 

Actually met Frank before the show and chatted a little bit about basketball.  He's a real cool guy, and played incredibly well tonight.  Axl sounded amazing!  Everyone else sounded great too.  I do wish they had played rocket queen, but we did get Down on the Farm out of it....maybe they'll get both songs in some upcoming shows.  It was a great time, and I had a blast.  the band came out at the end and bowed (spelling?) for the audience.  Axl said he was really thankful at the end and was glad we were all there.   

All in all, it was a great night.....oh, and i also met jarmo too, really cool guy.  thanks alot jarmo for all you do, this is a great site!!!!

goodnight all

The band sounded tight.  I came with 2 friends who were fans from back in the day, but had no idea what to expect from the new band.  In fact, one of them doubted he would like it.  Axl blew them away from the start of the show. 

The place was not that crowded, the entire upperdeck was empty and the 2nd tier was only 2/3 full.  That said, I had a great time.  The band sounded amazing...much better then I expected.

Down on the Farm really was a treat.  The band absolutely nailed it.

can anyone confirm which guitarist does the guitar solo in DOTF?

That's sad to hear. How was the crowd acting overall?

i just got back from the show.  i had an awesome time! my friends that arent the hugest fans said it was alright.  not the best show they have seen.  oh well.

Just got back from the show. I enjoyed it more than the Hammerstein show actually. Ron is playing the solos better which i liked. Down On The Farm was awesome to hear as well. Other worthless things i noticed. Fortus played the first solo and Robin the 2nd in November Rain while at Hammerstein it was the other way around. I enjoyed the little jam stuff they did before the Blues and November Rain. Also Robin doing the Hendrix solo was flat out amazing.

Which Hendrix song did he play?  Was it before SCOM?

I dont remember which one it was but yes it was before SCOM. Ill ask my buddy tomorrow cause hes a big Hendrix fan and he knew it right away.

Voodoo Chile? :hihi: I guess not. But this is exactly what I've been hoping for; intros, changing intros.

Any chance it was the one slash used to do after civil war?

That would be Voodoo Chile ;)

Not to worry, with Canada up next you shouldn't be hearing about "half-empty" shows.   : ok:

Ok i wasn't sure if it was or not.

so, they did not sing IRS????  ???

anyone got a final track list?

Robin's solo WAS NOT Jimi Hendrix.

I'm positive of that. It's the same solo he did at MSG.

Jive - I can't remember at the moment who did the Down on the Farm solo i was too damn excited to be hearing it live

And also, to GnrAxl4Life - I'm pretty sure Richard has played the first November rain solo @ every show, including the 4 hammerstein shows. I'll check the DVD's though.

No I.R.S.

Crowd, while it wasn't full, was a nice size, and very, very into the show. And they stayed very into it for most of the show. They sat down for the new songs, which happens at all the shows, but there was a very nice response from the crowd after both the blues and especially better.

This was the 9th GNR show i've attended, 8th of this lineup, and I must say the band is as good as it's ever been. Totally together, and while they aren't perfect every night out note for note (something which i think only us insane message board types even notice) their intensity is unmatched and fun to watch. The last two shows, MSG and Baltimore, were awesome. The talents of the guys in the new lineup is amazing, and FINALLY the crowd started getting some good Guns N' Roses chants going for Frank. The rest of the tour is in my opinion just gonna get better and better. And yeah, the part in "better" when axl is screaming "i never wanted you to be so full of anger" and the band is rocking out, is always the best part of the concert, how good that is live i cannot explain to you without you being there. No bootleg can even come close to reproducing it. It's just something you have to experience to understand.

They are the best band in the world right now, I don't care what anyone says. and if they keep playing shows like Baltimore and MSG, they are going to go down as one of the greatest bands ever.

Again. :)

1. Welcome To The Jungle
2. It's So Easy
3. Mr. Brownstone
4. Live And Let Die
5. Knockin' On Heavens Door
6. Robin Finck Solo
7. Sweet Child O' Mine
8. You Could Be Mine
9. Dizzy Reed Piano Solo
10. The Blues
11. Better
12. Band Introductions/Richard-Robin Solo [Beautiful]
13. Out Ta Get Me
14. Band Jam/November Rain
15. Down On The Farm!!!
16. Bumblefoot Solo [Don't Cry]
17. My Michelle [With Sebastian Bach]
18. Used To Love Her
19. Patience
20. Nightrain
----ENCORE-----
21. Chinese Democracy

thanks... Why was PC left off??

Paradise City???  Did Axl get pissed off or something? that's a kind of strange thing isn't it?

Relax, EFISH just forgot to update the first post. It had PC.

No, that would be Voodoo Child. Two different songs. :P

Why no Paradise City?

I think it's cool how they closed with Chinese Democracy though  8)

PARADISE CITY WAS PLAYED!

I'm going to be completely honest here. It would be hard to get me more excited for my show at the Palace in a week and a half, but I think you just did! Great review!

hmm over @ 1:15....i'm gonna have to drive for toronto....i was hoping for taking the train but the last one leaves @ 1:30 am...too close for me :-\

OK - here's my comments on last night's show......

First of all, I didn't go in until about 10:15, just in time to see Sebastian Bach in his full 80's leather outfit belt out Youth Gone Wild. ?I was surprised when I walked in that the floor looked more crowded than I thought it would. ?The entire upper deck was empty and the bottom deck of seats were about 1/2 full at this point. ?Quite a small crowd considering this place is an indoor soccer/lacrosse arena.

Anyway, when Bach finished and everyone left the floor for the beer line, I made my way up to about 10-15 people away from the stage - just left of center. ?The road crew worked unusually quickly and got the entire set changed in only about 30 minutes. ?By 11:00, we were starting. ?

The first part of the set was the best for me this time - absolutely INCREDIBLE! ?The entire first segment (read: ?until the first momentum-halting solo) was just straight up ROCK with Axl obviously in better shape than before. ?His voice sounded stronger than Hammerstein (surprisingly) and he seemed to have more energy. ?He ran all over the place and never left the stage once for the first segment. ?This was the closest to the old energy that I've seen. ?To me, it's amazing what it adds to the show when he doesn't run backstage during the songs - it just seems more like a band - and it rocks a LOT harder when he's out there dancing around.

I thought Brownstone and LALD were surprising highlights early - normally I would have said it was time to retire these 2 songs - but they were both great. ?The sound overall was fabulous - not overly loud to where it sounded like distorted gobbledygook..... although as usual, Axl's vocals were mixed too low. ?I wonder if they do this to hide his voice a little bit.....hmmm...... Baz's vocals were turned WAYYYY up during Youth Gone Wild.

The solos do really really really slow down the momentum. ?I almost feel at times like they are 2 bands - one that just rocks with songs like Jungle, Easy, Down on the Farm, Better, Out Ta Get Me, Nighttrain, etc. and the other that is more of an Eagles/Elton/Billy Joel type experience with Patience, KOHD, Blues, NR, etc. ?Of course, if they were two bands they'd be my 2 favorites. ?But the two distinct styles mixed together makes for a disjointed show in my opinion. ?That's why I thought the first segment was so strong - it was just straight rock. ?Maybe without all the solos it wouldn't slow down so much. ?I just soooo want to see this band play an hour of straight-blistering rock like the first 30 minutes were. ?Shows like that just grab you and don't let up. ?(Frankly, this was how I felt at VR) ?It's not that I mind slow songs- ?those are some of my favorite GNR songs - but when you stop the "rock" for 15 minutes for a 5-minute piano solo and a drawn-out 10 minute ballad - it's going to bring the crowd's energy to a standstill. ?

Highlights for me..... Clearly, Down on the Farm was a highlight. ?I don't know if it was just because it was a "surprise" of sorts, but frankly it ROCKED. ?The band nailed it - the style of the song seemed to really fit guys like Fortus and Stinson. ?Other than the first 5-6 songs, this was my favorite moment. ?The "Beautiful" solo is really, really good as well. ?So is Dizzy's Ziggy Stardust solo. ?I could do without whatever the hell Robin was doing before SCOM - and Bumblefoot's solo Don't Cry. ?Used to Love Her was a little bit flat as well. ?Another highlight - as always - was Nighttrain. ?Of the old songs, I think the new band really does this one the best. ?Also, during KOHD - Axl's voice was off the charts amazing. ?He was pulling out all of his "vocal gymnastics" and did some AMAZING tricks during the song - which is what KOHD is all about isn't it?

The biggest disappointment for me was the crowd. ?While the floor did fill up to about 2/3 full - and the lower bowl of seats was about 2/3 full - that wasn't really the point. ?By the middle of the show I ended up about 5 people away from the stage, right in the center and was SHOCKED by the lack of energy in the crowd. ?In some ways this was good, because I was able to stand 10 feet from Axl and watch the show without anyone pushing me - but at the same time I found this to be a let down. ?Frankly, it was kind of like being at a U2 or Matchbox 20 concert in that respect - everyone just watching and singing..... very little craziness in the crowd. ?I guess we're all getting a little bit older, eh? ?I just remember Hammerstein had MUCH MUCH more energy - people were just out of their minds. ?I think this show had an enthusiastic, sing-along crowd who were enjoying just watching a good band perform at the top of their game.? And that's not all bad.

All in all, it was a great time - I will say that the band has come a long way since Hammerstein. ?They seem very comfortable with each other, Frank is AWESOME and a fun drummer to watch, and Axl's voice is ridiculously on point - probably the best I've ever heard it. ?If you go, you won't be disappointed!? I do agree - this might the best ROCK band out there today...... GO SEE THEM!


My GNR history..... (dates may be slightly off)
1991 - Capital Center w/ Skid Row - Washington DC
1991 - Hampton Coliseum w/ Skid Row - Hampton, VA.
1992 - Williams Bryce Stadium w/ Metallica & Faith No More - Columbia SC
1993 - Dean Smith Center - Chapel Hill NC
2002 - MCI Center - Washington DC CANCELLED
2006 - Hammerstein Ballroom - NYC - opening night
2006 - 1st Mariner Arena - Baltimore, MD

Ah, I guess you missed the four person/six security guard fight... the drunk woman dragged out by security for biting... and the multiple chicks on shoulders flashing?  There was TONS of craziness where I was in the pit - I loved it.


 - SammyD1st

I saw all that - which was BEFORE the concert started!!!!!  Not really what I meant!

I'm talking about hearing the opening bass line of It's So Easy and watching the crowd turn into mayhem.  Didn't see much of that - and I was just to the left of center.

Interesting. What happened with that fight????? ???

Just watched the dvd from the 12th since i was there and Fortus did play the first solo in November Rain.

pre-show

I arrived at the Wharf Rat around 6:00pm to find a few HTGTH's: MR.BROWNSTONE pounding Budweisers, Jarmo drinking Heinekin, Tanya (dunno if that's the right spelling) and anythinggoes sipping ?-and-cokes.  Jarmo and anythinggoes look just like their pictures.  Tanya is absolutely gorgeous (I think she looks like the actress Rose McGowan, only prettier) and she is obsessed with Starbuck's which makes her okay in my book.  : ok: I was the newest of the n00bs until inlikeflynn420 showed up, which made me feel a little better.

The bar was full of pre-concert revelers.  Inlikeflynn420 and I struck up a conversation with a fellow in a button-up shirt who looked to me like a business traveler but who turned out to be going to the concert, too, and who -- get this -- loves mullets!  He said he would "totally rock the mullet" if it came back in style.  He was a hoot!  Later on, dolphin and cheeser showed up.  Good people and good conversation all around.

As the concert drew closer, MR.BROWNSTONE kept checking his watch like every few minutes which started to make me nervous.  LOL.  He needn't have worried about getting to the arena early to get a good GA spot (or maybe his worry paid off) because when I finally made it inside I saw him in the very first row, just right of center stage.


quick summary of show

16 songs + 4 solos/jams in the regular set + a 2-song encore.  11:05pm - 1:20am, 2 hours and 15 minutes.  I didn't think the solos/jams detracted from the show; they gave these wonderful musicians a chance to show off their musical chops as well as their personalities while giving the audience (many of whom had been drinking in varying degrees of heaviness) a chance to rest a bit.  I also think the people who complain about the set lists have either (a) gone to LOTS of shows or (b) go to NO shows and simply like to sit at their computers and bitch and moan.  If you don't like the set lists, don't keep buying tickets to the same tour, and STFU for the love of God. :rant: <mini rant over>

The arena appeared to be about 80% full; GA looked packed but ruly; only the top halves of the upper levels were empty.  I was on the right side of the stage, second row up, only about 20' from the stage (I could almost count BBF's chest hairs  :hihi:) the section to my right was unpopulated; there was one big column-like mass of cables in my line of sight but it did not really obstruct my view; I took pictures with my cell phone but they are not very good.

full review of show

I called the arena before the show to ask if disposable cameras would be allowed.  The person I spoke with said, "Axl says no."  (I should have asked her to put him on the phone.  LOL.)  But I tried to sneak mine in anyway.  I had it tucked into the back of my skirt (which is what Bandita did successfully at MSG, I think), but the lady security guard did a full reach-around and touched it with the tips of her fingers.  She asked, "What's that?"  I replied, "My fat ass."  She said, "No, not that.  (:P)  I mean what's in the back of your skirt."  I took it out and showed her and she was very nice about telling me that it wasn't allowed and gave me the option of returning it to my room.  This really bummed me out, so instead of going right back to the arena, I partied with inlikeflynn420 and his three buddies, who were just three doors down the hall from me.  Really cool guys, very generous with their beer, even though I wanted to see the Suicide Girls, I think I had more fun at the hotel than I would have at the arena. 

I got back to the arena at about 10:50pm.  I got the same search I did the first time, so I'm glad I didn't try to sneak the camera in again.  I was in a slow-moving line to buy a Jack and Coke that all of a sudden started moving really fast when the intro music came on.  I don't know what that shit is, but is dark and menacing and very bass-heavy (you could feel the floor and walls in the concourse shaking!) and it brings with it the sweetest sense of anticipation.  I spilled a good bit of my $7 drink rushing to get to my seat, which I did just in time to hear "DO YOU KNOW WHERE THE FUCK YOU AAARRREEE?!"

Now...  I have never had a problem with Axl retaining the GNR name.  If you ask me, GNR was always HIS vision anyway, and as I said a couple of times at the Wharf Rat, if you take an arena full of people, you will find at least a couple of guys who can play guitar as well or better than Slash, but you will not find anyone who can sing like Axl.  So, I welcome whoever Axl chooses to work with.

With that being said...  It is one thing to THINK these things...  And to be accepting IN SPIRIT...  But it is another thing entirely to see it with your own eyes and hear it with your own ears.  A band is no better than the sum of its parts (which is what made the original GNR so great), and let me tell you, this sum of this band's parts is astro-fucking-nomical.  Immediately after the show, I thought, "Wow, Robin really impressed me tonight," but after letting it all sink in for a few hours, I have to say that they ALL impressed me.

Axl sounded TERRIFIC save for a few mic problems in the middle of the set and a little hoarseness by the end (I actually liked the hoarseness because it was a sign that he really gave it his all and put his heart and soul into his performance   :yes:).

Frank and Tommy lay a great foundation.  Frank's drumming is so hard and heavy you can feel it rise up from the soles of your feet and then it just hits you right in the chest.  How Tommy helps keep everyone in time while bouncing around the stage like a maniac, I don't know, but it sure is fun to watch.

Each of the three guitarists has his own musical (and visual) style yet they never get in each other's way, they complement each other wonderfully and give the GNR classics a new depth and feeling that they never had before.

Dizzy's keyboard playing is absolutely lovely.

Taken all together, it is simply AMAZING.

If anything, this concert has kind of ruined "Live Era" for me.  I was listening to it on the way home, and after seeing the "new" band, "Live Era" sounds kinda thin and lacking a little, lacking the depth the "new" guys bring to the music.  I really hope the current group releases a live CD or video, both for anyone who has not yet seen them to be astounded by, as well as for the people who have been fortunate enough to see them to be able to re-live the experience.  It is truly something that is not to be missed.  I wish I had the words to describe exactly what I saw and heard last night, but I don't, so dime-store adjectives like "amazing" and "astounding" will have to suffice.

Great take on "Live: Era".  I agree from what I have heard from the new band.  People always ask why the need 3 guitar players, but if you hear this new band live, it sounds so much "bigger" and "fuller".  I love the "BIG" sound!

after show

After the show and on EFISH's advice, I hung outside by the buses. ?There were about two dozen people out there, including MR.BROWNSTONE. ?Tommy came out first, accompanied by a tall woman with long blonde hair (some d00d said "Hey look it's the bass player" :P) and was stopped for one photo before walking down the street and out of view. ?Then Sebastian Bach came out and slapped some hands while saying, "MAN I'm fucked up! ?Baltimore! ?Woo!" and then he took off down the street, too. ?(Something tells me there may have been a special after-hours party at Goddess, a nearby strip club. ?:hihi:) ?Then Dizzy appeared, smoking a cigarette, while Robin carried stuff into a bus. ?A few people called their names but they paid us no mind.

Next came BBF, wearing his furry hat. ?During the concert, when he was playing on my side of the stage with that hat on, I started tapping myself on the head. ?He saw me and did the same. ?Well, I did the head-tapping thing again and he pointed at me and laughed and walked towards me. ?We talked for a little while and he very graciously signed something for a friend of mine. ?I told him how I really didn't know much about him until he joined GNR, but that I like what he brings to the band, and that it is such a joy to see him on stage, acting like a little kid. ?He said that he really is just a big kid. ?I would like to add here that he is truly a class act and that I am very happy he is a part of GNR.

While I was talking with BBF, the man himself -- AXL -- was greeting fans outside of his tour bus. ?(Funny, I thought he flew, but he apparently has his own bus while the rest of the guys have one or two to share.) ?I hurried over, hoping to meet him, and hoping like hell I wouldn't say something completely dorky if I did. ?His "people" had everyone standing in pretty much a single-file line, and Axl was working his way down the line towards me. ?There was only one person left in front of me when a short, fat, bearded guy took Axl's arm and looked at the small crowd and said something like, "We are being called. ?We must go. ?He must go now." ?BUMMER! ?MR.BROWNSTONE got Axl to sign his ticket. ?I must be content with seeing Axl up close for the very first time. ?His braids are definitely shorter, and he has worked a darker shade of red into them that goes very nicely with his natural shade of red. ?He was wearing sunglasses and a black furry coat. ?His skin is so pale and smooth that it made me think of Akasha and Enkil (Anne Rice fans will know what I mean here). ?He was very soft spoken (maybe his throat hurt a bit, or perhaps he was just saving his voice). ?He is a truly beautiful man. ?It's probably a good thing I didn't meet him; I probably would've said something dorky. ?LOL.

While I was walking back to the hotel, I noticed Beta looking very in charge of the loading of things onto buses and into trucks. ?Even her daughter was busy pushing some gear around. ?It was cool to catch a glimpse of them, too.

All in all, an unbelievable night!

 :beer:

And to think that I wasn't even a GNR fan when they came to Stockholm this summer... I'd kill to see them play live! Glad you had fun^^

Oh, and about the live sound... Three guitar players make it sound so much better. I got a hold of the Tokyo DVD the other day, and the sound feels so thin and empty... While my Rock Am Ring-clips make my speaker system fall to pieces.

Cleo, that was a great review!  So cool that you got to be so close to the man!!

(And I know who Akasha and Enkil are, great reference, hahaha!!!)

That sucks that you weren't able to get a camera in.  I always bring a purse and usually they are so busy looking in there they don't even check to see if I have anything else on me. 

Glad you all had a good time at the show! :peace:

Live era is a joke. It is a try at what the new band is supposed to be. It is all cleaned and polished up with vocals redone on some songs and everything. I never listen to that cd(except for coma). I'd much rather listen to a bootleg from 91 or 92 hwne you can really hear the rawness and the edge of the band.

Yo, i wrote this on the train on the way back to Philly last night, apologies for the length, but maybe ppl will like the details!


Here is my review of the Nov. 11 2006 Guns N' Roses concert at the 1st Mariner Arena in Baltimore.

I spent the weekend home (I attend college in Philadelphia, but am from Annapolis, MD) and had my father drop my brother and I off at the venue around 7:30 PM. I had planned to attempt to meet the band afterwards, and so I brought my camera along. My bro and I stopped in the Dunkin' Doughnuts across the street so he could grab some dinner, and I could attempt to secure my digital camera to my grundle area, because I noticed they were hand searching everyone that entered pretty thoroughly. I had a rather hilarious conversation with a girl who was waiting to use the Doughnut shack's restroom about my plan, and she informed me that she had been at concerts at the Arena where they used metal detectors, and in that case I was screwed.

While we were in the doughnut shack, the General Admission line was let in, and I finally decided just to go for the camera thing, and I hung the camera from the button on my pants, so that it was directly in the center of my crotch. Well all nervousness aside, we slid past security, and headed to our seats.

-he rest of the show, and got everyone excited for the main act.

Then the waiting began.

Well, actually it was pretty short. My bro and I walked a loop around the arena, stopped at the merchandise stand (I bought a poster), and then headed back to our seats. While in the lav, this tall drunk guy decided to garnish everyone's urination with a loud string of rhetorical questions, such as "WHEN DO YOU ALL THINK AXL'S GONNA GO ON!" and statements such as "LAST TIME HE DIDN'T EVEN GO ON!!!" People, although trying to piss, seemed to laugh off his tirade, and seemed genuinely excited for GN'R.

When we got back to our seats, we watched the crew finishing setup, and I spotted Beta walking around below. Before I knew it, the lights dimmed and the intro played. I would estimate that it was only 30 minutes between Bach and GN'R. Everyone freaked out as jungle began, and people pretty much kept standing throughout the entire show.

I've seen a ton of shows on video, probably at least 30 of the old band's performances, and most of the widely circulated video gigs from this year, and I must say that seeing the band live is MUCH different than watching a video.

I am what you would call an Axl fan, predominately because of his no-shit attitude, and his charisma on stage. Videos do not portray his energy accurately, and seeing him running, dancing, and slithering around on the stage below me was an indescribable experience. In comparison, the antics of the other band members, save Fink and Dizzy, seemed weak, although in videos, they all seem to have equal dominance. It is not that I wasn't impressed with their collective musicianship, which I think is top notch, along with their emotional investments, I just felt that their stage presences were so greatly overshadowed by Axl's that it seemed unbalanced. I was exhausted by the time GN'R came on, and this may have contributed to my impression, but I just felt this needed to be said to the people who are saying that the only reason to go is Axl.

I really REALLY wish I had seen the old band live to see if this same kind of dominance was present. From videos, I think both bands pretty much have the same overall charisma, but I would have loved to have seen Duff, Slash, Steven, and Matt interact live with Axl for some kind of comparison.

Anyway, I won't go into each song individually, but the set was incredible, and Axl's voice was amazing. I am a rasp-lover, and feel that I have enough experience listening to the band's recordings and bootlegs to be at least somewhat of an authority on Axl's sound. He was singing very high in his throat tonight, ALA 1992, and I was worried about him Mickey Mousing near the end, but he managed to stay strong throughout, and only became a little hoarse on PC and Nightrain. His voice was PERFECT in my opinion, and he had all the power I could have hoped for and more!

The standout performer of the night, bandwise, would have to be Richard. 4tus had not really hovered above and beyond in what I had seen in the past, but he really proved himself to me tonight. His shredding solo, his handling of the classic material, and the humble aura he emits on stage all helped win me over.

Fink and Bumble, as expected, were both excellent as well.

I am pissed at the sound guys, as the mix started out okay, but was bad and muddy by the end of the show. I was sorely disappointed on YCBM (Axl told a story about meeting a Motley Crue fan who had "Fit To Burn" tattooed across his neckline) as I could not hear the base part AT ALL. Tommy managed to make it over to my side of the stage, and looked up at my area a few times. I only wish I could have heard his playing. By the end of the show, the mix was so muddy that all 3 guitars were blending together, and it was just awful. I think the sound guys really dropped the ball on this one, although it could have just been my area of the arena that was not getting great sound.

Axl told the crowd how awesome and rowdy they were several times saying "This really is a great crowd." at the end of the show, after bidding everyone a safe trip home, he said "We really really wish and hope to see you all again someday!" He talked about how he liked Baltimore and that one of his favorite shows, The Wire (Also one of my favorites...and Snoop Dogg's!) is filmed and set in B-More. Before better, he announced that they were going to play another song that "only some of you know!" and seemed to be a little peeved that people were not familiar with the new tunes.

The solos. Well, I appreciated the ones that were actual songs, and my brother liked the Beautiful solo, but they were a little too much. They were nice near the end of the show, as I REALLY needed to sit for a few seconds as I was exhausted from dancing and throwing my arms around. Axl commented that people were sleeping now so that they could be awake for the rest of the show. People in my section sat for some portions of these solos, but the majority of the audience remained standing, and everyone, even the sitters, for the most part, seemed to appreciate the interludes to an extent, although they were sort of a downer.

One thing that happened during the Beautiful solo, really, in my mind, epitomized the plight that GN'R faces right now. All around me, most people seemed to be casual fans, probably from the UYI days, and I believe they were at the show because of the old band. They all seemed to enjoy the show, even the new songs. I had the couple next to me (casual fans) dancing along to all the new hits (out of drunkeness or appreciation...I don't know) and they seemed, although unfamiliar, to like the new songs. The only person I saw not having a good time was this one guy in front of me. He had come with 3 other dudes, all were decked out in leather, long hair, dark jeans, and with bandannas dangling from pockets. Arch-typical metal fans. They enjoyed the old songs. They enjoyed the new songs. But when Fink and 4tus played beautiful, the one guy got seriously offended, and stood with both middle fingers extended, leaning forward toward the stage for the entire song. He was pissed off for much of the rest of the show, too. His friends didn't mind, but I think he took the solo as a serious Emo assault on his Rock N' Roll. I hope people like this can learn to get over trivialities. I have seen, in the past few weeks, much of the Axl v. Slash feuds melt away with people finally agreeing to like both musicians, and not to bash the other, but this hard rock v. ballad/more emotional music debate could be a big hurdle for GN'R, as I feel it sort of challenges their original 86-89 image, and makes the new band seem a little soft.

Oh well, everyone else was having a good time.

Mother Goose Pitman and Dizzwald both did their parts. 'Nuff said. Both have a place in this band for sure.

Merck was leaning on the railings at the top of the stage entrance stairs for most of the show, standing next to Beta, who was dancing along with every song! She reminds me of how my mom dances when a song she enjoys comes on the radio, and I think it is good for the band to have a mother figure on the road with them. She could have a totally killer reality show, too.

Hell yeah! They played Down On The Farm and UTLH!

Anyway, sorry this was so fucking long. After the show, I waited out back with about 35 people 'till about 2:00 for the band, and then my pop picked my bro and I up ( I was pretty grumpy as the bus area had just begun gearing up and I am sure I just missed the band members). Anyways, my dad dropped me off at the train station where I waited until my train at 3:55. and now I sit alone in a traincar, exhausted, and dreading the next few hours and two classes I have to endure before I can sleep at 12 noon!

I had an amazing night tonight, and I hope I managed to describe some of the moments I experienced, as well as did an okay job of touching on some points that I do not think have been addressed very much on the discussion boards. I'll post this on the major boards after I wake up tomorrow afternoon.

Cheers, and a HUGE THANKS TO AXL AND COMPANY for a GREAT NIGHT!!!,

-Jeff Haines


Forgot to mention, Bach went through like six mikes. He was twirling them above his head and crap, and they kept hitting stuff and breaking, and there were various other problems with them. Was a great time.

Dude where you the guy in the green t shirt with the skull on it because i was the guy sitting on the chair outside waiting and then laying on the bench opposite sleepin. When i get home i have reviews photos and vids to sort out.

Haha yeah, i had a feeling that you had come from the concert. I was gonna say something but I was shot to hell by then. cool.

i'm still recovering from this show. baltimore is a cool town.

everyone has given great reviews so there's not much to add - thanks for the recap Cleo!  : ok:

so all i can add is that this show was incredible. my expectations are always sky-high, and i had just seen them 3 days earlier at MSG, but they blew me away. the sound was perfect, the band seemed really into it, DOTF rocked.

an awesome, awesome show. MSG was great, and this show was better. it was THAT good.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IyqFXMwA8Qw

Down on The Farm from 13/11

That was amazing, thank you  ;D

Wonderful! Cheers.

woow!
This was great! In some way, this got me back to the 90s! Thanks mate ?: ok:

I meant to mention: the funniest part of this concert for me was when I was yelling "TWAT! TWAT! TWAT!" between songs, and the guy next to me goes "Dude, I don't know about that - we may see some boobies though."


 - SammyD1st

that was you was it i kept looking round thinking somone was calling me

Positive review of the show....

http://www.baltimoresun.com/entertainment/music/bal-to.guns15nov15,0,7133394.story?coll=bal-artslife-music

Guns N' Roses plays classics that fans can sing along with
By Rashod D. Ollison
Sun Pop Music Critic

The rise and fall of Guns N' Roses is a classic tale in rock history. After abundant acclaim and mind-boggling sales (more than 90 million albums sold worldwide), clashing egos and manic behavior ruined a good thing. With such ubiquitous late '80s and early '90s smashes as "It's So Easy," "Welcome to the Jungle" and "November Rain," Axl Rose and the gang were the only hard rock band in the world that mattered.
 
Their legacy is cemented today - even if Rose is the only original member in the lineup and Chinese Democracy, GNR's long-anticipated new album, has been 15 years in the making. And still no release date has been set.

At 1st Mariner Arena on Monday night, the current group, fronted by a seemingly sane Rose, eschewed delving into any new material. Instead, the band delivered the old hits with fire - literally.

Booming, eardrum-splitting bursts of flames announced the entrance of GNR's famously erratic focal point. Looking slimmer and sporting shorter braids these days, Rose howled through the opening cut, "Welcome to the Jungle." Though he wore the same fitted, distressed jeans and firetruck-red boots during the two-hour set, he left the stage four times to change into stylish shirts. (The black leather one he sported during the first two numbers was especially sharp.)

There was surely an air of divadom about the wardrobe changes, but Rose undoubtedly needed the breaks to give his slightly frayed voice a rest. Sweat dripped from his reddened face as he screamed through "It's So Easy." The seven-piece band behind Rose was faithful to the original arrangements, replicating all the guitar licks from the records.

Despite recent reports of drinking onstage (Guns N' Roses canceled a show in Maine this month when authorities wouldn't allow group members to swig beer and wine during the show), there wasn't any flagrant use of alcohol at Monday's show. Rose often sipped from a red cup between songs. But it's a safe bet that it was something to help soothe his throat after delivering larynx-shredding screams during "Mr. Brownstone."

On a high-octane "Live and Let Die," the flames returned, shooting in the air as the song's tempo accelerated and Rose ran across the stage shouting. Smoke lingered long after the song was done.

To break up the full-force takes on the classics, band members flexed their musical muscles during lengthy interludes. His long, stringy brown hair falling in and out of his bearded face, Robin Finck, on guitar, paced the stage, delivering a focused, blues-drenched solo. It smoothly segued into the familiar riffs of "Sweet Child O' Mine," which got the full house rocking and singing along.

The crowd - an almost-even mix of teens and middle-age folks - didn't seem to mind hearing the old hits and no new material. As Rose sat at the grand piano and pounded out "November Rain" in a natty printed sports jacket, the house sang along with every word. It seemed as if it missed hearing such a soaring rock ballad on the radio.

this guy is an idiot, they did play new material

The seven-piece band behind Rose was faithful to the original arrangements, replicating all the guitar licks from the records.

hummm... I?m not sure if I agree with this  ::) but overall... a positive review, except the beer part of course...