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What if Slash is on Chinese Democracy ? Do you think it is possible that he recorded something for CD ?

Having Slash on a couple of songs with Izzy would be so great ! It would give a new dimension to CD.

I doubt it. if that was the case it wouldnt be good for axl and the band. Cant produce music without slash. He may have came up with SOME idead early on on some of these songs. Im sure the band tinkered with it all and its completely different now.

no way

Seeing how he quit before it was envisioned, I doubt it. Although I did hear Duff laid down a little work, in the very very early stages of the album's production. Though it could be rumor. Even though Axl did that 1999 interview with Loder and talked about all of the songs, I believe at that time alot of it had been done as demos with various 'new' people, such as Dave Navarro, Zakk Wylde, Tommy Stinson, Paul Huge, Josh Freese, etc.

Personally I wouldn't be shocked if Izzy might pop up with some work on the second album, who knows.

But I think Slash would make it sound dated. His guitar work in Velvet Revolver has a very 'old' sound to it. I thought with VR he'd at least modernize his sound some, but it sounds the same, and obviously from what we've heard of CD, would not work at all.

Slash doesn't sound dated at all :o (blues doesn't age!), but it would definately jar with the rest of the songs - I'd rather not have him on the albulm.

Average does...

slash is not average :no:, and he chose to keep his guitar playing style (which is great). slash wanted to keep playing the same rock n' roll and axl wanted to try different things. that's why they parted

as far as slash on cd, never gonna happen. he's part of the past. :'(

some of his playing is VERY average
most of snakepit and VR is very average
IMO

i would love to see axl and slash get back together  a couple of years down the line , but for now release chinese democracy and let these guitarists get there credit

And a big thank you from Robin Finck's mum for her incredible unbiased opinions....

Slash average? Lol, get a life.

no slash is def' not average, but i agree that he wouldnt sound right on the album,so i think the new gnr should release cd (NOW) and maybe by then slash and axl may of patched things up between them?! ;D

You must be listening to a different Contraband than me, because it doesn't resemble Slash of old to me.
On Contraband it sounded like Slash was stepping away from his usual bag of tricks and trying something new, a little more alternative than what he played in GN'R.

And I know it's all down to personal taste and all, but of all the words I'd use to describe Slash's guitar work as on Contraband, "old-sounding" isn't what springs to mind.

Contraband didnt really sound anything like Slash to me and it certainly didnt sound dated. That doesnt mean that I thought it was particularly great. But that was due to the most part to Scotts truly appalling lyrics.

I'm sure the new album will show us what Slash still capable of. To say the guy is average is beyond a joke and the mutterings of an obsessed fanboy.

Haha, this is slowly turning into a Contraband review thread. I actually like Scott's lyrics on there, but that's another topic altogether...
On Contraband Slash still showed moments of what he's capable of - that solo in You Got No Right is amazing and up there with his best GN'R work.

As for whether Slash appears on CD or not. I would hope not.

I think all it would prove is that Axl can't write anything of his own without relying on contributions from ex-members, and I also I think the new guys have worked way too hard on this to have the credit go to someone who is no longer in the band.

When the reunion ever happens, Slash and Axl will hopefully record again, but I really wanna hear what Finck, Fortus and Bucket/Bumble have come up with for CD.

Plus Brian May...

Since Chinese Democracy seems to be a guitar melting pot, Slash's presence would be welcome.

Maybe Axl and Slash have been fooling with us and have recorded songs together in 2005... :drool:

Honestly though, to think Slash would have anything to do with CD is mad. Axl would never let him near it, you know how bitter Axl is about the old band. It would never happen.

I too want to see what this 'GnR' sound like on the cd if it ever comes out. But that doesnt mean I dont want a reunion to happen. Be it for gigs, or an album or whatever. Anyone over 14 probably does too.

As for Contraband, yes there are moments of Slash greatness on there. I remember first hearing the Slither solo, whoa....... And to think it didnt take him 13 years to write that solo....

Brian May, Fortus, Buckethead, Finck, Bumblefoot and maybe Izzy and... Axl !

Plus Paul Tobias...

All these people will probably be playing guitars on CD. So why not Slash ?

If Slash was on CD then we wouldnt have to have this debacle of a huge lineup with 3 guitarists, guests on the album etc....

Plus Paul Tobias....

So what about Duff..? I also heard a rumour saying that he really did some work in the early days of CD.

Ok lets have Slash, Duff, Izzy, and Axl. At least then we'll know it'll be good.

some of you people live in such a diluted fantasy world.    :rofl:

And so do those who think nugnr has a future.

And some of us are just curious to know who has worked on CD..

Thank you.


How is it bias? I own the fuckin' album. I paid for it with my fuckin' money. Imo, it sounds dated, and Slash's work sounds like the same old shit, just recycled. That's my opinion. I gave it a chance, and it sucked.


We'll see.

Last time I checked VR wasn't doing so hot, and were swirling in rumors of break-up, despite only being together for a few years.

Plus, 99.9% of their marketing success for Contraband can be attributed to the fact that they advertised the Guns N' Roses name & Stone Temple Pilots name. Not because they worked on their own merits.

Not to mention, publicity was shoved down our fuckin' throats on it.

Last time I checked, at least 'Nu-GNR' are not publicizing themselves, and are letting the music do the talking, instead of being media whores.

Playing the original members' material, that's what you call "letting the music do the talking" ?

Please.

Those who don't want Slash on CD are haters. :(

Axl was an original member, he's playing his material also.


No, maybe we would just like to have a new & original album from GN'R, and not a poorly written & performed turd like Craptraband.

The Legend, you are not discussing, you are insulting because you know you're wrong.

So I won't answer your post.

Then why'd you reply?

What a dumbass...

On topic please.

A GN'R record without Slash is like a Rolling Stones without Keith Richards, not really a GN'R record, not really a Rolling Stones record.
And if Slash's sound doesn't adapt to CD, that means CD is not a GN'R record.

Slash=GN'R.

your opinion and only your and opinions aint facts : ok:

By the way, I'm just saying that it would be cool if Slash played on a couple of songs. I don't know why some people are getting so angry.

A lot of people are going to play guitars on CD anyway, not just Finck and Fortus.

hahahaha no way.........maybe izzy is on chinese on a track or two ...but slash?  not on this records ... maybe it will happen in the future ....
......

Ditto!  : ok:


Nobody's getting angry man. I don't have a problem with you loving Slash.

But to prove your point, everytime you ATTACK the new band. That's not fair, and I feel I have to defend them.

Personally I feel Slash on CD wouldn't work, you feel different. No biggie.

If the songs on CD are as Silkworms or Oh My God, Slash wouldn't be interested in playing that kind of thing anyway.

And I didn't ATTACK Axl's new band. You are paranoid.

It's just that I'm not sure guys as Finck, Fortus, Stinson or Brain were even fans of Guns N'Roses... That's my concern.

Actually if I wanted to spend time on it, I could show you countless posts you have made attacking the new band man. It happened.  ::)

As for the songs you mentioned, you're not alone. I wouldn't see Slash playing on those, and even Robin Finck himself publicly bashed and said he didn't care for Oh My God. That's probably the reason we haven't heard it since  very early 2001.

Dude Slash is not GNR, did you listened Slash's Sankepits or VR?, the music is completely different, and quite boring if you ask me

Slash's guitar can't sound dated.. It is timeless...

He is more of  a metal player on Contraband.  Very Micheal Sheneker....

This I Love was the only rumored song Slash was every supposed to be on.. From what I know.. Slash is one of the best rock guitarists ever... i can't beleive what i am reading here..

Don't get me wrong, I would love to hear some new Axl/Slash music as much as anyone.
But saying I hope Slash isn't on CD, is because he's been out of the band for 10 f'n years and it would seem silly to have him on there.

I dont think Slash has anything to do with it, according to Slash he brought Axl a bunch of song ideas which Axl rejected, which later became "its five oclock somewhere" by Slashs snakepit.... I dont hear any Slash influence at all on the leaks.....

I second that. There's this new band, and it's their record. Their music. But what I actually wanted to know is did Slash or Duff do ANYTHING for CD in the early days of the album. But even if they did, I don't think anyone can really hear it on the current versions of the songs.. but the rumour about Duff is really bothering me.

Slash has nothing to do with Chinese Democracy.

Won't even be mentioned.

Plus, why should he ?

There's talk about Snakepit stuff being all that Slash contributed to GN'R's follow up to TSI & UYI, but I remember reading one of Slash's last interviews before leaving the band, he said that they were trading tapes and working on "Axl's songs" and it having an aggressive/angry vibe, being that's where they stemmed from to begin with.
So I believe Slash did work on it in the early stages.

I would wonder if anything from those early sessions has been kept. But like I said too, it's been 10 years and so much material has apparently been worked on, who knows what will finally end up on CD.

There's talk about Snakepit stuff being all that Slash contributed to GN'R's follow up to TSI & UYI, but I remember reading one of Slash's last interviews before leaving the band, he said that they were trading tapes and working on "Axl's songs" and it having an aggressive/angry vibe, being that's where they stemmed from to begin with.
So I believe Slash did work on it in the early stages.

I would wonder if anything from those early sessions has been kept. But like I said too, it's been 10 years and so much material has apparently been worked on, who knows what will finally end up on CD.

All those songs got lost, slash said

No, what happened was, Slash went off on his own and wrote & recorded the material that became 'Five O Clock Somewhere', except without vocals. Axl saw this material, and said it wasn't bad, and that it could be the next GN'R album. He asked Slash to let him take the material, put his own little touch on it, and they'd release it as the next Guns record. Slash absolutely refused, and said take it or leave it, but it's fine the way it is, and it won't be changed. Axl refused to put it out the way it currently was, and put the GN'R stamp on it.

Their relationship was downhill from there. If I remember correctly that was the last time they saw each other for many many many years.

The current players are aware of Slash's style and realize it is part of GNR.  That is why solo's like the blues and such sound like something Slash may play.  Did Fink ever sound like that in NIN?  No.  These guys play solos in a GNR type style for the most part.  However, they don't have the sexyness in the guitar playing Slash had.  But put these guys in their own forum and they don't play like they do for GNR.  In GNR, they try to recapture a GNR sound of the past.  Does anyone know what I am saying?  ha.

The Legend, you are so wrong, it's not even funny. You are inventing things to present Axl in a flattering light.

JohnSDMF is right. Slash came up with ideas which were rejected by Axl.
Axl wanted to transform completely GNR's sound (introduction of indus and techno influences). The result is Silkworms, Oh my god, Better, etc. And GN'R split...

When Slash decided to release his songs as a solo project, Axl went mad and threatened with lawsuits... Axl wanted to control everything, he thought Slash was his property. Axl only owns the GN'R logo, which is not a lot without Slash, Izzy and Duff.

That's right, but I don't fully agree with the "Axl wanted to transform completely..". It's true he wanted to change the style but didn't Sorum say that they were recording short pure rock n' roll songs at that time? But yes, Axl also wanted add some techno stuff..

FFS ! give it up? ! if some people doesn?t like slash guitar-fills on some album..then so be it !

Why talk about Slash here..Why bad-mouth GN?R here ?

Why don?t you give it a rest ?

Have you ever heard about a Guns n' Roses line-up where was this guy called Slash? The guy with that huge hairstyle.. ring-a-bell? Have you ever heard about opinions? Do you know that you're on a Guns n' Roses message board?

If you do know that, you should also know answers for your own questions. This thread is going nowhere, lock.

Axl's band is still playing Slash's material, isn't it ? And Slash is a GN'R icon, so why can't we speak about him ?

Plus, I'm not "bad-mouthing" GN'R at all.

If you don't like this thread go somewhere else. There are a lot of threads for the Finck's fanboys.

Exactly, but last time I've checked, Slash was not a part of GN'R anymore. Hmm let me do the math ... 10 years, right ?


They are not haters. I'm not a hater.

But Slash has nothing to do with Chinese Democracy. Slash did not wrote the material. It's not his album. Never have been. Slash isn't in the band. He left.


Kind of cynical, right ?

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Just a question : what's going to happen with all the new lineup hatters if Chinese Democracy is a really great Rock N' Roll album ?

Ok so we can't talk about Gn'R's history anymore.. if you want to continue, please PM.

i hate these people who say slashs playing is "average". If it wasnt for him, you would not have all those great gnr songs from appetite, lies, illusions!!!!

Slash puts feeling into his playing, he doesnt just shred mindlessly, like some previous gnr members that like fast food.

That's classic :rofl:

what are you a fucking idiot! Slash sucks, lets hope to god hes not on it.
Izzy now wont be on this one but may be on another cd guns puts out.

And VR is playing Axl material !!!..Fuck this..You are 10 years to late to come with this...And besides...Everything that is Slash material..is also Axl?s material..Because slash couldn?t write the words to a children-song? :yes: !

And you have the wrong attitude...You started a intresting topic..but then you turned this into a " Slash is original ,Slash is great, Axl should play his own stuff "....But once again - SLASH STUFF IS AXL?S STUFF...AND AXL?S STUFF, IS SLASH STUFF..Get it ??..no ??

I like Slash , and i like Finck..and i like Axl...And i like GNR

That's a great post ! You are totally right.

Those guys are playing under the GN'R name but they aren't even GN'R fans ! (except Bumblefoot)

I'm sure they despised GN'R back in the '80s and early '90s.

dude if you are so against this band and Axl, please find another place to spread your garbage.  somewhere where its cool to go to a board and bash the band.   fuck slash.  take that shit elsewhere.

VR is COVERING one or two GN'R songs... Axl's band is COVERING 14 or 15 GN'R songs......

I started this topic and The Legend started insulting Slash and Contraband.... not my fault. I didn't insult anybody.

Slash's solos were not written by Axl. You can be sure of it ! Axl knows jack shit about guitar-playing.

Since Brian May, Paul Tobias, Robin Finck, Richard Fortus, Bumblefoot, Axl Rose, Izzy Stradlin and Buckethead may be playing guitar on Chinese Democracy, I hope Slash will be on the record too. :yes:

Great point !  : ok:

But Slashead, you do realize that even if Slash recorded something for what was going to be the next GN'R album back in the day, it's long lost now. (It wasn't even Chinese Democracy at the time).

There's no way he's going to be on Chinese Democracy. he won't even be mentioned in the booklet.

I know he wrote those great guitar parts on AFD & Illusions albums, but this is 2006. He's out of the picture now.


There's no need for that ...

I'm just thinking of something : why would you have Slash on Chinese Democracy anyway ? It's not a GN'R album in your opinion, so ...

stupid question!

Thanks for repackaging everything I just said, with Slash's name slapped on it, instead of Axl's.

Both Slash AND Axl have confirmed what I just fuckin' told you. Yep, that's right. SLASH said it out of his own fuckin' mouth. Songs like Oh My God, Silkworms, and ESPECIALLY Better weren't even thought of when Slash left the band.

Axl never filed a lawsuit to bar the release of Five O' Clock Somewhere. What the fuck are you smoking?


It's Axl's material MORE SO than it is Slash's. Most of AFD's INSTRUMENTAL MUSIC & LYRIC WRITING credits, are LARGE MAJORITY, W. Axl Rose & Izzy Stradlin. And after them, Duff McKagen. Then Slash & Steven Adler.


This right here, shows you started this thread for no reason other than to promote Slash. Once again, another intentionally sarcastic and negative statement towards Robin Finck. All this was, was a propaganda thread to say CD will suck without Slash's guitar.

I love how you say you're not bad mouthing GN'R, and then do it in the next fuckin' sentence.


Exactly.


You can talk about history. Problem is, certain people want an alternate history than actually happened. Slash never had a top-tier hand in the making of anything Guns N' Roses, other than showing up to shows, providing #4 input after Axl, Izzy & Duff had their say, and looking cool on stage, and playing what he was told to play.


Matter of opinion.


Apparently Slash wasn't a GN'R fan either, despite being in the band. He bashed every single ounce of their music that didn't have his name credit on it after he left the band.


Is the Guns N' Motley board back up? That place had it right on GNR's history.


That's the point i'm getting at. This was a propaganda thread as soon as he posted it. He didn't want our honest opinions, he wanted to simply be told what he wanted to hear. Axl sucks, Slash rules. That's all this thread was for.

Attention please, this question above was the original point of this thread. And I think it has a point actually. There are people who don't really know when the first studio session for CD was. I'm fucking sure that most of you guys don't know a shit what really happened during the time Slash left the band or right before it. We know something but not much. We don't know what really happened in the studios. And there has been rumours about Slash and Duff working on some tracks in the 90's.. there has been rumours that some of these songs has been written in the early 90's.. so I actually think this is a good question. I personally don't think that Slash is on CD, but who knows if he or Duff really did some work for the record. You know; "recorded something for CD"..

Who knows.

But this thread turned into another version of "I love the new band" - "So you hate Slash! Fuck you!" - "So you hate the new band! Move on, get away from here, this is a Gn'R-board" - "Fuck you!" - "Fuck you too!" -thing. C'mon guys, if you love the new band you don't have to hate the old. Same thing opposite.. or how you say it.

Okay dad  :P

Well..what i think doesn?t mean shit..But i don?t get why some people even bother to post here !

Bye

Good post Kaasu ! I just asked a legitimate question about Slash's presence on CD since a song as "This I love" was already written in 1993.

The Legend, you are pathetic. You're only fooling yourself. I never said Axl had filed a lawsuit against Slash concerning "It's five o'clock". I said that Axl had THREATENED Slash with lawsuits. I've already told you once that you were paranoid. You're also a liar.

Actually I heard about that too. I believe there is some truth to that.
 I think Axl wanted to sue Slash for using the Snakepit material for his own album, but they later sorted it out. Slash has mentioned it in a few interviews.

Oh ok.

Slash must be a liar too, 'cause he said so you fuckin' lameass. Lawsuits were never mentioned. If it was 'threatened', then Axl's a dumbass. Why would Axl want to sue for that shit on 5:00?

Next time you start talking facts, you may want to research your own guy.

I guess Axl must be a dumbass then according to what you just said, because it's been mentioned several times that Axl wanted to use Slash's material after he'd already put the album out, and threatened to sue Slash over it.

I don't think it ever went that far, but I read several news articles/interviews stating this in 1995/96. But then I guess they're all wrong or were lying huh?

Oh boy you really need to get your facts straight....Axl did threaten with lawsuits (gonna see if I still have some magazines around here....)




Once again get your facts straight,

"Welcome to the Jungle" (Music: Slash, Rose / Lyrics: Rose) ? 4:32
"It's So Easy" (Music: McKagan, Arkeen / Lyrics: McKagan, Arkeen ) ? 3:21
"Nightrain" (Music: Stradlin, McKagan, Rose, Slash, Adler / Lyrics: McKagan, Rose) ? 4:26
"Out Ta Get Me" (Music: Slash, Rose, Stradlin / Lyrics: Rose, Stradlin) ? 4:20
"Mr. Brownstone" (Music: Stradlin, Slash, Adler / Lyrics: Stradlin) ? 3:46
"Paradise City" (Music: McKagan, Slash, Rose, Stradlin / Lyrics: Rose, McKagan) ? 6:45
"My Michelle" (Music: Rose, Stradlin / Lyrics: Rose) ? 3:38
"Think About You" (Music: Stradlin / Lyrics: Stradlin) ? 3:49
"Sweet Child O' Mine" (Music: Rose, Slash, Stradlin, Adler / Lyrics: Rose) ? 5:54
"You're Crazy" (Music: Slash, Stradlin, Rose / Lyrics: Rose, Stradlin) ? 3:16
"Anything Goes" (Music: Stradlin, Rose, Weber / Lyrics: Stradlin, Rose) ? 3:25
"Rocket Queen" (Music: Rose, Slash, Stradlin, Adler / Lyrics: Rose, Stradlin) ? 6:14





Talk about presenting an alternate history. You sir, have shown yourself to be quite the axl fanboy in this thread? :yes:

So you found three tracks. Wasn't This I Love rumoured to be written in 1991-1993?

yep same goes for maddy wich was supposed to be written somehwere aroudn '94/'95

Thanks for the info Grouse, that's what I thought about too.. so even when this 'written in 1993', or whatever the year is, doesn't necessarily mean that Slash/Duff would have anything to do with the songs, it gives a good reason to ask and discuss about it. I really don't get it why to get so mad about it..

i think some ideas from slash will be on cd especially if this i love will be on it. but i kinda doubt we'll see this i love on cd (but that's just a personal opinion). there were recording sessions with slash in 93-94 so maybe axl kept some of his ideas.

The most common denominator there I see is Rose & Stradlin.


Ideas from Slash on CD?

You've lost it. I can't even wrap my mind around how insane & Slash fanboy that is.

Anyways, sorry if I upset anyone.

I'll leave you nuts alone in this thread.

 :peace:

first of all thanks for your complimets.

second. the reason i said some ideas from slash could be there is because i believe that during 93-94 they might have recorded some parts that axl may have used as a starting point for a song, riff, solo.
and i never said it's definitely on cd.

You're right Supaplex. We don't know if Slash will be on CD.

But maybe some people will have a surprise... ;)

Grade school anyone?? :hihi:

Slash has 8 and rose has 9 so how does that qualify as a common denominator?

funny how you don't even address the subject of the threatening with lawsuits, changed your mind about that?

Just admit that you hate almost everything about the ex-members and are simply here for Axl not guns....I've been reading trough your "last posts" and everyone single one wich concerns ex-members you start flaming and bashing....quite pathetic really? ::)

Seriously now, do you really think that IF Slash recorded something for what was going to be Chine Democracy back in the day, it's still there today in the final songs ?

I'm sure somewhere inside your brain you KNOW it's not going to happen.

Why do you wish he's on the album so bad anyway ? For you, it would be like some kind of treason from Slash, right ? His guitar parts layed on this infamous Axl's solo project ... You know, the one where he stole a band's name and fire everybody and wants to be the chief like kids in kindergaten, etc. Bla bla bla

Thing is, this album is probably great, and will generate a huge buzz, and Slash won't have nothing to do with it. And you can't take that.

As much as I like slash I wouldn't want him to be on CD, Just let Axl and the guys do their thing  ;D

Yeah, and I don't believe that Slash would be ON Chinese Democracy. But I agree with this one:

Puuulease!  :hihi:

Slash will have to do with it because the new guitarists are trying to sound as him. So we'll hear a copy of Slash's sound. Copy=fake.

Plus, a GN'R album without Slash is like a Beatles album without John Lennon : absurd.

Slashead, it depends. If you think that Guns n' Roses is not Guns n' Roses without Slash, that's you're opinion. And there's nothing wrong with it. But if someone thinks that Gn'R can be Gn'R without Slash, that's his opinion and it's ok too. It's just how you look at it. And the way you look at it don't make you a better (or worse) fan compared to those who look at it the opposite way.

This conversation is frustrating 'cause it never stops.

Does it mean that with the help of propaganda Paul McCartney could release a solo album under the Beatles name ?

So, it's all a matter of propaganda, isnt'it ?

This is getting absurd. Now Slash will be on CD because the guys in GN'R are trying to sound as him ?

I don't think they they sound as him at all. Not on the old material. Not on the new material.

No, he could not because it would be :

Paul Mc Cartney + Backup band = Paul Mc Cartney doing solo stuff.

In this case it's simple :

Axl + Tommy + Robin + Brain/Frank + Ron + Richard + Dizzy + Chris = Guns N' Roses on tour and releasing their new opus.

And why is this valid ? Because none of this guys stole nothing from past members. Some people left, and others joined. Nobody asked Slash, Duff or Scrotum to leave in the first place. It was their own decision and now they have to cope with it. And their fans too.

So no, again, Slash has nothing to do with Chinese Democracy.

Or does he? How do you know that? You can't, that's right.

And if I remember right Sorum got fired after all. But you're right, Slash, Duff and Izzy left the band because they wanted to.

Well, Sorum didn't had the balls to quit with a bang, he said himself he did everything he could to be fired.

And do you really think that Axl is going to leave hypotethical Slash's ideas/parts on the album ? C'mon, he doesn't even return X-mas cards to the guy.

I don't hate Slash at all, and I have no intention to bash him, but it's seems logical that he won't be on Chinese Democracy.

scrotum  :rofl:

some of you slash fanboys never cease to amaze me.   

he is not and will not have any part of chinese democracy.    anyone who says otherwise is just being a slash troll

Axl+back up band = Axl doing solo stuff = nugnr

I agree with this, and people should stop trying to link Slash with everything nuGNR. They are two separate bands in their own rights, the past is the past and as long as this band is what's GNR now, we should love it for what it is, or leave it altogether. And this is coming from a huge Slash fan, so take it for what it's worth.

As far as it goes, it seems blindingly obvious that there will be nothing Slash related on CD, partly because Axl is absurdly bitter towards him, but mostly because he has not been in the band for 10 years.

However, to make a Guns record, there has to at least be some Slash influence in there for it to sound like Guns. But as all of us without blinkers and blind fanboy sycophancy know, its not a Guns record.

I find it funny that after all these years trying to escape the bands legacy and their contribution, its always gonna bite him on the ass because he chose to call his solo project Guns N Roses. A burden around his neck that he cant escape. Call it something else and theres no scrutiny from your former fan base and no comparison to the Classic Guns era. Also no expectation for it to sound like Guns or stand worthily alongside their catalogue.

All hes trying to prove is that he can work without Slash. But so far we've seen little proof of that as he is too scared to relaese an album that may not and probably will not stand up to the Guns N Roses name.

By thieving the name from his former friends he's hung an albatross around his neck and has far more to live up to that if he'd kept it about the music and not hanging on to something that'll sell more because of the name rather than the content.

I saw a 'GNR' shirt that had the slogan 'Freedom through musical integrity' on it. I think nothing could be farther from the truth.

Sorry, rant over. I can hear the Legend's dolly hitting the floor just outside of his pram as I write this......  :hihi:


 

would the mods ban these trolls already?   i'm sick of being insulted for supporting this band on a forum about this band by bitter losers who refuse to stop living in the past TEN YEARS LATER.

That's true Locomotive. Great post.

Do you remember what Axl said to the Stereo club owner back in January after he played Chinese Democracy in that club ?

"After this album's release people will know who was the main ingredient of Guns N'Roses !"

That's what he said. It says a lot.? The whole CD project can be seen as a revenge on his former friends. He just forgot that without those guys he would be pumping gas in Lafayette... :-\


On the other hand, I'm sure that Axl, deep inside, loves Slash, and vice versa. Axl is like that, he still loves the people he insults. Axl also used to insult Izzy when he left GN'R... That's why a re-union is still possible and Slash's haters are stupid people who don't understand Axl.

But not everyone who says that Slash has nothing to do with CD or who loves the new band is a Slash-hater. So ummm.. this conversation is going nowhere.

Of course not. This was a hint about Jim Bob, The Legend and their clueless friends. :smoking: