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Title: my thought ... real tour in 2007
Post by: Lucky on November 09, 2006, 03:28:22 PM
ok, after the europe tour ended, and no "unheard" songs were played, I was jelous at the USA people, because I tought they'd get the new songs,
and I so much wanted to hear CITR live :'(
but looking at it from this angle, I kinda see, that a big part of the usa will not get any better deal than I got.
sure, they'll get the CD before the tour ends, and maybe 2-3 new songs, but big part of the USA will get nothing more than we did.

that brings me to my point.
Band will probably be back in europe/usa before end of next summer to capitalize on the release of the album.
If the spain thing is real, I guess, winter will be the time for asia, australia, south america, and spring back for Europe.
And I guess the real "chinese democracy" tour will start in 2007, when more than 300 of us will be familiar with Chinese Democracy.

 :peace:


edit: though is not tought - spelling error.



Title: Re: my toughts ... real tour in 2007
Post by: killingvector on November 09, 2006, 03:34:58 PM
I dunno, mate. Seems like they would be saturating the market the second time through. Most mainstream fans wouldn't care so much about the new stuff anyway.


Title: Re: my toughts ... real tour in 2007
Post by: Lucky on November 09, 2006, 03:41:46 PM
I think the first time only the hard core fans showed up(+Ultra Hard core)
The next time around, I would like to think they'd have more new fans, the teens, and the kids that havent been fans up till now.
I really hope CD is good enough to gather up a bunch of new fans.
+I think the people who already seen them would like to see them again.


Title: Re: my toughts ... real tour in 2007
Post by: mikesc on November 09, 2006, 03:43:56 PM
I think so, too. Btw Merck already said they will tour in 2007. It was in an interview at the Formula 1 race in Hockenheim. The moderator asked Axl when they will be back in Germany again, Axl turned to Merck and he said we?ll be back next year... ?:beer:


Title: Re: my toughts ... real tour in 2007
Post by: the dirt on November 09, 2006, 03:46:34 PM
I dunno, mate. Seems like they would be saturating the market the second time through. Most mainstream fans wouldn't care so much about the new stuff anyway.

It bothers me in a sense when people say this. I've been wanting to hear this album for a long time...

But then again, you may be right, and this is as good as it's gonna get. If the album ever comes out and they have another CD tour, maybe we'll only hear one new song at concerts (the "hit"), and that will be all. ?:-\


Title: Re: my toughts ... real tour in 2007
Post by: gandra on November 09, 2006, 03:49:15 PM
well with new album,they can do stadium shows in europe and south america


Title: Re: my toughts ... real tour in 2007
Post by: give_it_a_rest on November 09, 2006, 03:50:10 PM
I think so, too. Btw Merck already said they will tour in 2007. It was in an interview at the Formula 1 race in Hockenheim. The moderator asked Axl when they will be back in Germany again, Axl turned to Merck and he said we?ll be back next year... ?:beer:

At the end of the show I went (Nijmegen) Axl said something like see you next year if I remember correctly.


Title: Re: my toughts ... real tour in 2007
Post by: Ghostface on November 09, 2006, 03:52:06 PM
I believe he said "we hope to see you again"


Title: Re: my toughts ... real tour in 2007
Post by: Lucky on November 09, 2006, 03:54:38 PM
I think so, too. Btw Merck already said they will tour in 2007. It was in an interview at the Formula 1 race in Hockenheim. The moderator asked Axl when they will be back in Germany again, Axl turned to Merck and he said we?ll be back next year... ?:beer:

At the end of the show I went (Nijmegen) Axl said something like see you next year if I remember correctly.


I think he said something like "back next summer with a bunch of new songs at rir3" :hihi:

but yeah, I hope to see them soon.
it'd be kinda dumb, to release the album, and not cash in on it and tour, because if they dont come back to europe within a year, when will they come?!


Title: Re: my toughts ... real tour in 2007
Post by: give_it_a_rest on November 09, 2006, 04:04:26 PM
I think so, too. Btw Merck already said they will tour in 2007. It was in an interview at the Formula 1 race in Hockenheim. The moderator asked Axl when they will be back in Germany again, Axl turned to Merck and he said we?ll be back next year... ?:beer:

At the end of the show I went (Nijmegen) Axl said something like see you next year if I remember correctly.


I think he said something like "back next summer with a bunch of new songs at rir3" :hihi:

but yeah, I hope to see them soon.
it'd be kinda dumb, to release the album, and not cash in on it and tour, because if they dont come back to europe within a year, when will they come?!


Yeah the best is yet to come!!! in 1991 they also toured europe before UYI and then came back in 1992 and 1993, so I expect them back soon. If CD sells good they come back soon for sure.  :peace:


Title: Re: my toughts ... real tour in 2007
Post by: Skinflick on November 09, 2006, 04:06:59 PM
what's a tought?....ya mean like a pop-tought......just kiddin'....and it looks like you're right...we'll see.


Title: Re: my thought ... real tour in 2007
Post by: duga on November 09, 2006, 04:15:47 PM
ok, after the europe tour ended, and no "unheard" songs were played, I was jelous at the USA people, because I tought they'd get the new songs,
and I so much wanted to hear CITR live :'(
but looking at it from this angle, I kinda see, that a big part of the usa will not get any better deal than I got.
sure, they'll get the CD before the tour ends, and maybe 2-3 new songs, but big part of the USA will get nothing more than we did.

that brings me to my point.
Band will probably be back in europe/usa before end of next summer to capitalize on the release of the album.
If the spain thing is real, I guess, winter will be the time for asia, australia, south america, and spring back for Europe.
And I guess the real "chinese democracy" tour will start in 2007, when more than 300 of us will be familiar with Chinese Democracy.

 :peace:


edit: though is not tought - spelling error.



The "USA people" got Down on the farm!  :rant:

 :peace:


Title: Re: my thought ... real tour in 2007
Post by: Lucky on November 09, 2006, 04:28:28 PM
The "USA people" got Down on the farm!? :rant:
 :peace:

I'm not jelous about that. I'd rather hear them play CITR , than all the GNR cathalogue instead.
but I guess to each their own...



Title: Re: my thought ... real tour in 2007
Post by: The Legend on November 09, 2006, 04:40:14 PM
ok, after the europe tour ended, and no "unheard" songs were played, I was jelous at the USA people, because I tought they'd get the new songs,
and I so much wanted to hear CITR live :'(
but looking at it from this angle, I kinda see, that a big part of the usa will not get any better deal than I got.
sure, they'll get the CD before the tour ends, and maybe 2-3 new songs, but big part of the USA will get nothing more than we did.

that brings me to my point.
Band will probably be back in europe/usa before end of next summer to capitalize on the release of the album.
If the spain thing is real, I guess, winter will be the time for asia, australia, south america, and spring back for Europe.
And I guess the real "chinese democracy" tour will start in 2007, when more than 300 of us will be familiar with Chinese Democracy.

 :peace:


edit: though is not tought - spelling error.



Nothing big will change with new material on the setlist, until the album is released. It's obvious at this point.


Title: Re: my thought ... real tour in 2007
Post by: Lucky on November 09, 2006, 06:10:45 PM
Nothing big will change with new material on the setlist, until the album is released. It's obvious at this point.

I never said something big is going to happen.
I said they might add 2-3 new songs.
hence the thread title: "real tour in 2007"


Title: Re: my thought ... real tour in 2007
Post by: The Legend on November 09, 2006, 06:18:48 PM
Nothing big will change with new material on the setlist, until the album is released. It's obvious at this point.

I never said something big is going to happen.
I said they might add 2-3 new songs.
hence the thread title: "real tour in 2007"

I was speaking in general. I wasn't pointing your statement out directly.


Title: Re: my thought ... real tour in 2007
Post by: crow316 on November 09, 2006, 07:40:25 PM
you know, Ive ben meaning to say this for a while.  GnR have been playing like 5 "new"song in their setlist for a while.  Thats about on par with how many new songs a band plays while suporting an album.  When Metallica played to support St Anger, they played like 3 songs off of that album. Same with alot of other shows Ive seen from bigger acts.  Im not saying that the setlist wont change when the album comes out, but expecting all these new songs just seems weird to me.


Title: Re: my thought ... real tour in 2007
Post by: AxlsMainMan on November 09, 2006, 09:30:08 PM
I still hold out for the day when Gn'R will play Chinese Democracy in its entirety :drool:


Title: Re: my thought ... real tour in 2007
Post by: Eclipsed107 on November 09, 2006, 11:32:43 PM
you know, Ive ben meaning to say this for a while. GnR have been playing like 5 "new"song in their setlist for a while. Thats about on par with how many new songs a band plays while suporting an album. When Metallica played to support St Anger, they played like 3 songs off of that album. Same with alot of other shows Ive seen from bigger acts. Im not saying that the setlist wont change when the album comes out, but expecting all these new songs just seems weird to me.

Well to be fair St. Anger sucks balls.


Title: Re: my thought ... real tour in 2007
Post by: crow316 on November 10, 2006, 01:25:25 AM
Quote
Well to be fair St. Anger sucks balls.
Whatever, you know that wasnt my point. My point was bands dont play the entire album that they are supporting. 3-4 songs is normal unless the band only has like 1 other album. 


Title: Re: my thought ... real tour in 2007
Post by: Eclipsed107 on November 10, 2006, 01:33:00 AM
I know I agree.  They've played half of the album so far.. I honestly don't want to hear any new songs!  Not until it drops anyway.

My thought is that the new songs on the alt. setlist are there for when (if) the album is released during the tour.  Then they can add a couple more new songs to the set.

When they finally start after CD is released get ready for some interesting sets, because I have a good feeling that a lot of the classic Appetite songs (like Rocket Queen, Out Ta Get Me) won't be heard very often.


Title: Re: my thought ... real tour in 2007
Post by: acompleteunknown on November 10, 2006, 01:39:03 AM
Real tour?  What is this...the fake tour?

Most bands who have 6 albums to pull material from only play 5 or 6 new songs.  Also GNR's songs are anywhere from 5 -11 minutes long a piece.  Would be a totally different story if they had a bunch of 3-minute pop songs.


Title: Re: my thought ... real tour in 2007
Post by: Eclipsed107 on November 10, 2006, 01:40:15 AM
I think what he ment acompleteunknown is that this is somewhat of a warmup tour for the diehards.

The next tour will be the definitive tour and much bigger than this one.


Title: Re: my thought ... real tour in 2007
Post by: italysfinest1985 on November 10, 2006, 01:41:49 AM
ok, after the europe tour ended, and no "unheard" songs were played, I was jelous at the USA people, because I tought they'd get the new songs,
and I so much wanted to hear CITR live :'(
but looking at it from this angle, I kinda see, that a big part of the usa will not get any better deal than I got.
sure, they'll get the CD before the tour ends, and maybe 2-3 new songs, but big part of the USA will get nothing more than we did.

that brings me to my point.
Band will probably be back in europe/usa before end of next summer to capitalize on the release of the album.
If the spain thing is real, I guess, winter will be the time for asia, australia, south america, and spring back for Europe.
And I guess the real "chinese democracy" tour will start in 2007, when more than 300 of us will be familiar with Chinese Democracy.

 :peace:


edit: though is not tought - spelling error.



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Title: Re: my thought ... real tour in 2007
Post by: Eclipsed107 on November 10, 2006, 02:15:10 AM
Too bad CITR isn't on the option list of songs to play.

Well it's not too bad IMO, CITR is the worst song out of the 7 main new ones (CD, Mada, Better, IRS, Blues, TWAT and CITR), but I guess any new song played would be nice.