Here Today... Gone To Hell!

Just to say i had a chat with the very helpfiul guy at HMV when I told him I wanted the release date he chuckled but looked on the computer.

He was shocked and pleasantly suprised that on the computer (i also read it) it was down for 13th November but next to it had discontinued. He said 21st november sounded much more probable.

Our patience has paid off my friends. My money would be on 21st November so many people think so. and I reckon it would be pure genius marketing strategy to release with no warning. think about it, will easily get onto national tv and national bbc/abc news channels. free advertising with the hy pe and shock. I can literally see riots

p.s. yes i am excited and tipsy

I hope you're right..... about 13 days left to know if RS was right.

I found that same thing on the HMV website.
Seems to have totally gone now though, along with a few other GnR releases. It said there were 30 albums the other day, down to 25 now.

everything it's going towards 11-21-06 to be the day  :beer:

how many ppl will be bitching if it's not out the 21st?

when i read something like your post...it makes me feel butterflies in my stomach...Is it really the 21st? I cant believe its 13 days away. I guess even if it was official i would feel the same way, i've been waiting for so long

13 days...make it true, please! ;D

 :peace:

except that merck has said that it isnt coming out on the 21st. ugh! gosh![/napoleon dynamite]
the record will be coming out in december.

this particular incident is evidence of the stupidity (and lack of mathematical ability) exhibited by the HMV staff - the 21st will not be the release date for the album in the UK as it is a tuesday*.


*unless they are planning a worldwide launch spectacular - a gimmick that wouldnt be a bad idea.

 :hihi:

It's not going to be out on the 21st, so I guess that's everybody.

This will be the longest 13 days of any GN'R fans life.  I'm sure with all these expectations we will be let down more harsh then ever when it's not out.

Im betting in one of this 3 dates:
21st Nov
28 Nov
5 Dec

We'll be let down even more when we hear the album!

Ha, yeah, I went there.

Not everybody... those of us who know it's impossible to release it on that date won't be bitching.

I really want this to be true and am with everyone on here who feels the same! I couldn't care how it come out as long as it does, but it would strike me as a massive marketing mistake if it came out in this manner.

Imgaine the marketing the band could have:

-15 years in the making
-The most expensive album ever made
-Rock icon recluse returns

etc, etc, etc

They could have worldwide press salivating in anticipation rather than just dumping it on the shelves like some re-issue.

But as I said, as long as I hear it I couldn't care less!  :beer:

In the spirit of people calling places and asking about release dates, I just called my local Best Buy to inquire about the release date.  After being on hold for 10 minutes....a 16 year old girl, who was being coached by her manager and actually knew nothing of the subject....told me that....Chinese Democracy is supposed to come out by the end of the year, however it is not Guns N Roses, it is Axl Rose's solo project......after a good back and forth with the little girl on how it is guns n roses...she said it would most likely get delayed again.....I got a kick out of that....

I wonder who else I can call and bug.

Hope you are right.
It's just so hard to feel like "any day now" with no real hype, singles, or even rumor about single dripping in.

Haha!! Thats great, gotta love people who don't know a thing about this album. ?I'm going to the mall here in a bit to ask a couple of stores myself.

I'll will ask in my local cd shop..... and I'll let you know what they tell me

More like 9 days. Next friday we will know.

not really, they could ship the cds in for a tuesday release on tuesday morning...

I will wait all day there for UPS to arrive.

you know that's how there gonna do it. make us wait...

If that is even possible, I still think we will know something. We got a number of people with various sources who most likely will know something in advance. They don't put a gun to the head of everyone involved (maybe some :hihi:)

Absolutely anything is possible with these guys. They've got the kind of money and stature available on hand to work around any potential threats, allow for diversions etc

Why spend that kind of money of covering up the release of the album, when they could use it to promote??? First off its IMPOSSIBLE to ship a nationwide release on the day it hits shelves....

You guys are just setting yourselves up to be let down again

what makes you say that ?

im looking forward to SOMETHING on november 21.. whether its the album or a Single, idk...

with the harley commercial debuting after November 19, i think either one of those 2 things will happen on the 21st

 :rofl:

The odds, history, GNR's reputation, lack of promotion, no mentioning of the album, Merck himself saying that it won't come out on the 21st, and so on. 

I feel like Cartman in the latest South Park episodes... :no:

and if this does happen , cause nothing says that it won't either considering this thread isnt deleted yet. Will you be had ?

Nope. This is one argument where I'd love to be proven wrong. I hope on the 21st, someone on here throws all this up in my face as I'm listening to Chinese Democracy.

What year?

It must be one of them  : ok:

I honestly cannout see the album being released on the 21 and if im really Honest I dont think it will be this year now

Something drop on my mind (and I hate those moments), but Microsoft is releasing Zune on 14th with Zune Market Place opening... anyon thinking that with recent MLB & H-D partnering, GN'R might have partnered with Microsoft and CD will be released exclusively there on 14th and then hit the stores on 21st... or whatever.

http://www.hmv.co.uk/hmvweb/comingSoon.do?ctx=220;1;-1;-1&displayPage=2&&pGroupID=1&pGenreID=-1&pTertiaryID=-1&locale=uk


Look at the bottom of the page  :o

Yeah it says fucking December 18th now!!! They're just guessing like everyone else!

December 18th. That's about the time I was thinking, if it were to come out this year.

Only 40 days left :D

it says the label is polydor.
thats not right is it?

For Uk i think Polydor is the label, but i'm not sure.

I would like to know where they got that date from. Sounds more realistic than November 21.

The date on the HMV site is irrelevant. they need the item to be in the database. it's just a placeholder. so that they only have to change the date when the official release date is announced.

Well this ties in to the thread, but I went to my local musiczone today and whilst I was there I figured I'd ask if they knew anything about CD. I asked a girl who worked there if she knew the date for the new GNR album, she disappeared and came back and said it'll be out Dec 4th (UK), so who knows what to think  :-\

just like I said, its either coming out

a.november 21
b.December 5
c.December 19

Is this UK?.. I noticed it had alaso gone off the website.. originally it was listed but noted under was 'deleted'.. now it has gone all together.

Again it says "Availability: sorry this title has been deleted"

I've given up on HMV....they're about as reliable as a unicycle to a tri-athlete

GnR had plenty of opportunity to deny this album would be out on the 21st when they gave their statement re: the fire marshalls at portland. Nothing was said then even though this rumour was already being talked about..why?

Also GnR could just drop this album on the 21st (20th UK) and we would be out to buy it... the promotion for further sales to the masses would then push the album.

Whats the problem guys?..if all else fails we can whip the horse eyes.

If the management had to deny every rumor about Axl and his band, there would be like 4 or 5 statements per day.

Well the reason you can LITERALLY SEE riots is because YOU ARE a little tipsy or maybe it's people fighting over the PS3 that you're invisioning??  Chinese Democracy won't start riots anywhere, except on this forum.  I don't even know what to think about this release date anymore.  They've got us all fooled because they haven't said anything yet.  IT WILL BE OUT THIS YEAR THOUGH.  I can guarantee you that.  How do I know for sure??  If I told you all, I would have to kill you all... and that's just way too many people for me to kill.  Hell, one person is too many for me to kill.  But we'll see this album before '06 is over and you can all sit by the Christmas tree with your Chinese Democracy CD in your hand and play it for family, relatives and neighbors.  You can play it for the junkie and the whore on the corner and the drug dealer across the street.  You can leave the album out for Santa instead of the traditional cookies and milk, so he can play it on his fucking sleigh.  Play it for whoever the fuck you want, but you will be playing that bitch before the year is up... I need to go take my medicine.  AND NO, I don't believe in Santa Claus... I don't think so anyway.

What has the Soft Parade got to do with the kettle of fish?

LP

That's hilarious Lennon....I believe it's the 21'st because it is coming from different places and as successful as gnr has been in keeping it secret, it is starting to seep out as we said many times before the "article" how come no one knows anything and howcome no one is saying anything....well people are talking and things are happening. I don't know if they "know" but the shit is beginning to fly.

but the 21st was once said to be a wrong guess.

If it's the 21st, can we expect an announcement at MSG?

i would say no.

I dont think anything will be said at msg.. if axl didnt say anything at any of hte other dates, why msg??

'Cause he's gotta a thing for NYC...

I'm thinking about the fact right now that albums are released on Fridays in Germany. I wonder if it will be the Friday before or after the US-release  ???


/lastroots

weird
like I said on another thread, since 2 days ago till now people keep asking me if it?s real that GNR will release the album next week
 ???

This is my guess...

We have heard that "something" is supposted to happen on the 21st, but not the release.  I'm thinking that Better is dropped as a single on the 21st and that the album itsefl will be dropped on the 28th

Just my guess though, nothing more

;D

I'm starting to agree with that guess.

Over here in holland albumreleases are also on fridays.Usually on the friday before that was the case with the last two albums I bought of American artists the new audioslave and evanescence album (I like more music than only GN'R ;D) they were released over here 4 days earlier. So maybe we can be very lucky people in a few days/weeks/months whatever.

He said this?

I'm with you on the 21st as the date for the "Better" single, but I'm guessing December 12th for 'Chinese Democracy'.

December 12th sounds special. I don't know why.

If you mean the Mark Strigl comment on Talking Metal, he has now said that it won't happen. It was a small GN'R concert in NYC.

i was talking with a friend a few weeks ago (a casual GN'R supporter but never took the new line-up seriously after seeing a pic of Buckethead 2 years ago) and he said to me "did u know theres a fixed date for Chinese Democracy" and then spent the next 10 mins talking about it with me

i assume he was talking about the rolling stone date but i think its cool that people who dont follow the band everyday on the message boards are beginning to get hyped about chinese democracy.

needless to say a few days later me and about 10 friends were all in a room together and i cranked up better
and everyone thought it was amazing

just realise this doesnt have much to do with the thread but oh well
better than me starting another thread for it

Found this online:



Thought I would just add that!

There should be no exclusives for anyone on CD.

With this kind of wait, everyone should get dibs at the same time.

Maybe with later releases...

GOD I CAN'T WAIT ANYMORE only 12 days people and i can't fucking wait

when it comes out i'm gonna get three copies one for the car one for the house and one just encase one of the other ones desinigrate in the CD tray.

you can bet your ass on that

Fucking right on I'll buy this in every format it comes out lol. And maybe an additional copy.

I agree with what andypa1 said, and that's kind of what I've been speculating for a while. Imagine if the album is released with no official notice? Maybe there are rumours but no official confirmation and then word starts to get spread around that stores received stock of it or whatever. Can you imagine the reaction? Seriously it's Guns N Roses were talking about, doesn't matter who is in the band, what is happened over the years..Every diehard, hardcore, doubter and passer by will be flocking to get copies of that album immediately. I'm sure there will be at least ONE incident with extremely over enthusiastic fans breaking into stores to get copies of the album before the official sale at start of business or whatever. Ain't it fun.

According to another unspeakable site, GNR were just recording last month...Make of that what you will, if anything at all...

I think that was in reference to that Del James article or whatever that guy's name is (sorry i forgot) saying about how Bumblefoot and Frank I think may have recently added parts to the album. Even if they did, I'm sure it was only small parts here and there.

Why is everyone getting so excited? 

In this thread alone we have something like 4 "confirmed" dates.   We've had "confirmed" dates for the last few years.

Don't you guys remember any of that stuff?   Doesn't the fact that there are 4 "confirmed" dates in this thread alone make you guys think that perhaps they don't really know?

I'm trying to hang in there as best I can but I'm starting to wear thin...I don't think I can handle the idea of a 2007 release...it's been so long already, and back in May I was so positive after hearing Axl on Trunk that we would have it by now, or that we would know when it was going to be released.

Could be working on Chinese Democracy's successor.

I rang up again! and he said expect a release on the 21st and 28th and wouldnt say anything more!!!

when was that??? is that in europe?

Double-release baby! ?:peace:

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I wish... ?:smoking:

I have Single 21st, album 28th on good authority... cant prove it but believe what you will.
Im in the UK so dates maybe different here I dont know, but thats what Ive heared for the US.
 :peace:

They're releasing it twice!   Awesome!

I have it on good authority that it will be the 21st, 28th, 5th, 12th, 19th or 26th.

If your wrong people wont be so kind to you.... lol


Why isnt going to be available for Pre-order??? They are missing out if they dont allow Pre orders for the album.

yes im from England UK, he made it sound like 2 albums but I dont believe him, he said 2 releases anyway whatever that means

two albums in a week??

If you don't believe him and you think he's full of shit, then why even post it and start rumours?

do it!!! let us know what they say... i dont have an HMV here or i would.

why should they release it in england on the 21st and 28th???  someone mentioned they release albums on fridays in the uk....

or will it be a worldwide release date?

Albums are released Mondays in the UK, singles the same usually (though some are released on different days, Kasabian's empire single was released on a Tuesday)

Thanks for trying.... so much for that lead...

The HMV webpage now says 18th Dec, but still deleted. I think they must be just guessing.

http://www.hmv.co.uk/hmvweb/simpleSearch.do?pGroupID=-1&simpleSearchString=chinese+democracy&primaryID=-1&btnSubmitSearch.x=0&btnSubmitSearch.y=0

Let it be 12.12 'cause it's my fucking birthday :drool: Goddamn that would be sweet!

If he just said 2 releases there's no reason why one could'nt be a single and the other an album, unless he said anything more that implied it was 2 albums...?

Two releases...hmmm...possibly:

A) Two albums (I personally think not)
B) Album + single
C) Album + DVD

ooooooooohhh......damn an album AND a DVD would be sweeeeeet ;D

They could be utter bastards like Mastodon, and release the album one week, then have it released the week after again but with a bonus DVD.

I would be happy.

You might be on to something with C.  They filmed all the shows in Europe and stuff.

This would be SWEET!! :beer:

I would guess it would be December as well.  Axl said this year... and you know how hes always late....  :beer:

Actually, technically winter doesn't officially kick off until the week of or before, Christmas. So the first two weeks of December is still Late Fall.

I highly doubt anyone will know about this until the last minute.