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Ok, about eight Tuesdays left for 2006. Can we rule out this year or is it still possible for it to be released?

Here is my opinion, which of course could be dead wrong. But I think the band really did anticipate an '06 release (as Axl said at the VMAs) but that something is holding up the release. After all, it would explain why management has tried to erase the RS tidbit and why we haven't seen the HD commercial...

As much as I had hoped for it to come out this year, I now believe this will not be the case. Hope I am proved wrong.

Hope so too... we have a few days left.

I think we'll see it.  I doubt they'd keep restating it if they didn't think it was coming.

I never believed it was going to be 2006 even WITH the tour but perhaps I am a pessimist when it comes to the release of this album! ?
I think what made me sceptical was the fact that in March (I think) at the Korn party when Axl re-appeared and did that interview he mentioned that the recording wasn't finished and songs needed touching up. ?I knew right then in GNR time that alone is gonna take more than 8 months (especially with 'em being on the road), then you gotta take mixing and mastering into account as well as the artwork, which I bet Axl is spending A LOT of time on.

My prediction = Fall 2007... I obviously hope I am proved wrong ?:yes:

Fall of 2007? God I hope not. Then it will be Spring of '08 and then before you know it "Chinese Democracy: 2009"?

Maybe Axl is waiting for Clinton to take office?  :hihi:

The record is coming out.

This year or just in general???

It wouldn't surprise me if there was another delay but I think at this point in time that both GNR and their label want that album out by Christmas.  This way they can capitalize on the tour and added media attention.  When U2 released POP back in 1997, the band had only finished working on the album 2 weks before it ended up in stores so anything is possible.  2006- I believe!!!!! 

it will be out on 2006... december 5
i'm sure

Dude, people need to chill out.

It's annoying to see this thread once a week.

It's '06.

Agreed. I understand that a lot of people are nervous, but they have consistently said 2006 for a long time now, so let's wait until December 31st before we rule out 2006. Patience. It is difficult I know, but we just need to chill out, hang back, enjoy the live shows if you're going (which I am. NJ and MSG here I come!) and enjoy the boots if you are not!

Why are you worrying?? You're always telling me(and other people here) not to worry.

Start taking your own advice for once.

I agree with Jack. Threads like this aren't needed on a constant basis.

If thats the case, I hope we never see the album.

Tuesday is the make or break Tuesday for an album to be released this year.  If we don't hear something on Tuesday...starting marking your calendars for 2007.

I've been saying that for a month now yet like you, I'm still here

honestly, if cd is pressed and ready to go, they would only need 4 days to get it in stores and on the shelves

I put my money also on dec 5th... It's the best birthday present GnR can give me...  :smoking:

..in 2006?

Why would Axl say 100 times like it's coming fall 2006, and Merck also with the tuesday's and stuff.

they are changing the setlist to the setlist we've seen from the picture. cause they included down in the farm, and are changing a lot, a 29 setlist they are working on to make longer evenings to introduce us to CD(I think)

Soon is the word folks. It's coming...  : ok:

The New Chinese Year will commence on February 18 - the Year of the Pig. They'd release it on this day if only it weren't a Sunday. 2012 is the Year of the Dragon. Has potential!

Everyone used to post in one 'rumored release date' thread until the tuesdays comment came along and then all the threads started popping up

and when does "age of aquarius" start ;D

i doubt it`ll come out then.... it didn`t even come out in the year of guns n`roses 2005 :hihi:

Well, it's a good point he makes about all the stuff being removed from gunsnroses.com and here.  Only reason to pull that stuff and the HD ad is because the album is in jeopardy of not surfcaing soon.

they need to quit calling there tours the chinese democracy tour if there not going to release it soon.

I think we can rule out 2006 now.  But at least we got a tour from GNR.  Here is hoping for a 2007 release.

its guns n roses, if they wanted to keep it secret, Im pretty sure they could...

And you are entitled to do that. ?:) ?Just don't be too disapointed when it does not happen. ?: ok:

I haven't given up on 2006.

Why would they persistently reiterate that it would come out in 2006 otherwise?

But why would they still do that at this point? ?And don't tell me it is to prevent leaks. ?This will not help CD sales. ?People who will not buy it won't wether there are leaks or not.

Since MTV awards when did "THEY" reiterate that?  I haven't heard them do it. 

Maybe it's sorted as Dec. 5 or 12 but just a secret?

I believe it will come out this year.
there's still 2 months left, but in case it's not released, I'm gonna count my losses, and move on, and put this episode behind.
I've spent to much time hoping to hear it, and I have no intention loosing any more time/faith after dec.31st

come on, do we need a 100 threads concerning this?

Again. ?Why keep it a secret? ?It just doesn't make any sense. ?Believe me, I hope it will come out this year. ?BUT! ?I have to be realistic and logical. ?Any hope that there may be left will be gone if they do not announce anything by this Friday. ?And I gave up hope 2 weeks ago so I am really strecthing this. ?Usually record stores get the release date a month in advance on practically EVERY ALBUM coming out. ?I know I used to own a record store. ?And I don't think that they got a release date yet.

At least the band hasn't yet denied an '06 release...

If they did so now it would hurt the rest of the tour and people would further criticize them.  They'll deny it when they have no other alternative.

After 10 years, does it really matter if it comes out in December or, say, February?

yes it does. axl said 2006.

I believe some sort of statement will come by the end of next week. If it doesn't, well then I'm beggining to hope for '07. If they say it's been pushed to march or something, that's fine, I can wait. If it's summer however, well, I've heard that one before.

Something need to happen in the next 6 months, if not I'm never believing anything GN'R, management or affiliates say again. Guess I'll have to make us of the already worn out crystal ball once again.

What's more important then, the quality of the album or the perception that you've been misled by some rock star you will never meet?

Also, I don't have a log of every thing anyone has ever said, but did Axl explicitly say Chinese Democracy (the album) will be out this year, or that we
will hear new music this year? If Better is released as a single in December will it cover any official comments he made?

Seriously man, that's pushing it. Axl is not a monkey, and neither are we. You can't say stuff that you know will be interpeted as the album and come out with a bullshit explanation when it doesn't happen.

Merck has said that the album will be before the end of the year, in an article we can't discuss here.

;D

Maybe the article was supposed to be published in the January 2007 Rolling Stone.

Maybe y'all should file a class action lawsuit for emotional distress.

Well, no...he said there are 12 Tuesdays till the end of the year. So unless RS REALLY jumped the gun.....

and no more from me on the subject lol

;D

Lol, probably!

Its a shame that Tupac who died years ago can release 12 albums a year but Axl cant release an album that hes spent donkeys years working on.

Probably too busy listening to all the Tupac....

when it has a fixed release date, yes? And when it requires beforehand promotion and stuff of universal.

the rs article -> was prematurely posted, as explained?
the site article -> to avoid further misinterpretation?
the ad -> maybe the clip is not ready/ the band is not satisfied with the video?

In the US I could probably win too :P

It was a joke, but the fact that Merck (presumably) has asked that the article not be discussed here kind of suggests he doesn't want that quote being held against him.

:hihi:
that was a good one

well, the album aint on the Universal release lists for the 5th and 12th, so if you discount this tuesday we're down to 6 tuesdays....I really can't see it happening...

while he allows RS to print it?  Merck considers this board as the whole world? I don't think.

He can't stop RS printing it, but he can, it seems, stop us from discussing it.

We should prepare for 2007 I think, and that really sucks :( :( :( :( :( :( We have the right to get a release date, even if it is 2007 just give a release date damn it.

They can't give us something that doesn't exist yet.

I doubt it but Whatever. what difference would just stoping this board make? None.
like I said, he knows better.

If the album is finished/mastered it's easy to give a release date, hundreds of bands/record companies do this. But only "if' it's finished''

It is finished man is everyone forgetting that Axl played it at his party after the Inland Invasion show?  I can say this because my source isn't the forbidden article.  I was at the party dude!   :hihi:

There are other issues to be resolved besides completing the actual recordings. Disagreements on how the release will take form could very well be what holds up deciding a definite release date. But if it is like you say, that the recordings haven't been finished, we could very well be looking at a late '07 date, or worse.

So how was it.

didn't you notice the " :hihi:" or you just didn't understand he was joking

Or he just wanted to imply that "the joke is not funny". :P


and if they want to announce that.

Didn't you notice the lack of a questionmark in my sentence, or you just didn't understand I was joking too.

Official website, Sebastian Bach, Rolling Stone article?

no i didn't understand you were joking, 'cause there was nothing funny at all about your joke, it was just sterile

Joking, not being serious, whatever. Stop nitpicking and let's get back to the topic.

This album is coming on dec. 5 so don't deny it because i will start thinking that you know something too

haha u guys are funny.  arguing over if he was joking or not!  oh and it was very easy to tell that the guy who said "so how was it" was joking.

i think things are starting to look grim unless its targeted for mid december now.

simple as that.

i mean if the thing was getting manufactured for mass distribution, which it would be around this time if it is indeed coming out this year, then we would definitely have heard something by now or fairly soon.

i think its getting close but we shouldn't give up just yet.

Hmm...I still say we should just wait and see until January 2007..Anything is possible. Seriously.

I don't understand how ppl think we will know when it has been manufactured for distribution.  How would someone find that out unless they worked for one of the companies.  Do you find out about manufacturing for any other release? no.  so you wouldn't for CD. christ.

I'm in the camp that believes the album isn't coming in 2006.  Even when Axl said it he didn't seem too sure.  Really the thing that gets me is the keeping quiet of any info.  I mean not letting Ron say anything about it in interviews is kinda crazy.  There's no point in keeping the info under wraps.  If its not coming out then I think people would be much more appreciative if there was just a forthright, "the album isn't quite ready yet" instead of sitting around counting down the Tuesdays and being disappointed when every rumored date passes.  And it also doesn't help stir up any publicity if the thing is coming out by not saying anything. 

My only guess if it is coming out this year would be that they don't want to say anything and jinx it and have Axl suddenly decide he wants to change something.  But then again if it were coming out this year its pretty close to the point where he wouldn't be able to change anything.

On the official site it says "upcoming album Chinese Democracy"  Not that it will be out this year.  At least I don't think so.  But my memory could be wrong.  Bach's site?  Pfff!  It's not even worth a comment.  RS article.  I'll grant you that.  BUT!  Still looks like 2006 won't be the year.  And if so.  Did Axl and Merck lie?  If it doesn't come out yes they will have.  What can we do about it?  Absolutely nothing.  But I'll grant you that you are right.  They did reiterate 2006 in the Rolling Stone article.   : ok:

I think we're far past the November release date.  At this point there's only one truly viable release date.  December 19th.  This isn't a necessarily bad choice.  Dec. 5th has Gwen Stafani and Eminem both on Interscope.  Throwing GNR in the mix would just cloud the top ten and the label wants all three bands to get a #1 disc...SO...if GNR comes out on the 19th that gives Gwen and Eminem two weeks to fight it out.  Then, on the 19th, GNR will come out and surely nab the #1 spot on billboard.  they will have the clear lane for the rest of the year and for the first few months of 2007.  They could easily get 3-4 weeks at number one.  That in itself is promotion.  Plus the 19th coincides with their LA appearance, giving them the perfect opportunity to do the entire talk show/radio show circuit...

Now that does make sense. I do however think Axl will give some info on single and/or release date, something, at MSG.   : ok:

The album has to come out for American Thanksgiving.

December is far to late, Axl needs to capitalize on Christmas shoppers : ok:

according to bumblefoot its still slated to comes out this year...

Today, Mysteron
Posted in the help section
This year's still the plan.

Splash

/Mike

yeah i saw that too, pretty cool. maybe the official debut of the harley davidson ad will be in conjunction with the launch of better as a single? who knows.

we'll find out soon!  : ok:

Hearing quotes from band members and GN'R affiliates doesn't really mean shit to me. They all seem to have just heard it would be released this year earlier, and since nobody has said otherwise they just stick to it.

The quote from Mysteron has a reak of uncertainty to it. Just because no one's been told differently does not mean something hasn't changed.

I don't mean to come of as a mountain of negativity here, but let's not get all worked up until we got a solid reason for it. I still have faith, but there are numerous factors that will make a release almost impossible very soon. We must get some real indication very soon.

it'll happen.

there's no way it's coming out this year...i don't even think it will come out in early 2007....maybe april at the earliest....anyone who thinks it's coming out this year is just falling for the usual bullshit

have a little faith... i little hope;.

where? there?s nothing there

soon is the word :hihi:

Remember what Merck Meningitis said.  "It will come out on one of them (Tuesday this year)."  I'm sure he knows what he's talking about.

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