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Title: Rolling Stone - We are in the throes of a Hair Metal Renaissance
Post by: FunkyMonkey on November 04, 2006, 01:09:26 PM
Lately we?ve been getting the feeling that we are in the throes of a Hair Metal Renaissance (henceforth to be known as HMR). Perhaps it was this past summer?s monumental Def Leppard tour, or the recent reunions of such HM Heavyweights as Poison and Cinderella. Could be the ubiquitous presence of former Skid Row frontman Sebastian Bach. The impending return of a certian former HM adherent (they are referring to Axl, they link to a story that I cannot post the link to). Or the fact that books like this are getting published. In any case, damned if we aren?t seeing a trend here. We know some of you out there never stopped loving your White Snake and Ratt records, but we know its not particularly stylish to admit it. So let?s all put aside our pride, emerge from our HM closets (which house our old spandex pants, liquid eyeliner and Aqua Net), and share a special list of the best HM bands of all time. Here we go (again).

-- Lauren Gitlin

Story at Rollingstone.com


Title: Re: Rolling Stone - We are in the throes of a Hair Metal Renaissance
Post by: JuicySwoos on November 04, 2006, 01:19:09 PM
Thats cool.  Although I don't like it when GNR gets lumped in with the likes of Ratt and Poision, but one can make an arugument I guess that GNR was/is HM.


Title: Re: Rolling Stone - We are in the throes of a Hair Metal Renaissance
Post by: T_Roxie on November 04, 2006, 01:29:11 PM
They were...when they did live like a suicide...after that...nah.
just a rock n roll band.


Title: Re: Rolling Stone - We are in the throes of a Hair Metal Renaissance
Post by: JuicySwoos on November 04, 2006, 01:31:42 PM
They were...when they did live like a suicide...after that...nah.
just a rock n roll band.

Yep, they did wear makeup with the best of them in the early days.

Dude, the cult fucking rocks, my 2nd favorite band...most underrated rock band ever!


Title: Re: Rolling Stone - We are in the throes of a Hair Metal Renaissance
Post by: ppbebe on November 04, 2006, 01:39:41 PM
are they really referring to axl or just Sebastian Bach with the link?
I don't know about the past but Guns N Roses now look and sound nothing like hair metal.


Title: Re: Rolling Stone - We are in the throes of a Hair Metal Renaissance
Post by: FunkyMonkey on November 04, 2006, 01:42:22 PM
Where they say "certain former HM adherent" if you click on it, it takes you to the story about Axl/GNR that I cannot post.  So yes there are referring to Axl.


Title: Re: Rolling Stone - We are in the throes of a Hair Metal Renaissance
Post by: ppbebe on November 04, 2006, 01:56:14 PM
Ok so they're hinting that GNR is hair metal. but not in the text. I wonder why. ::) <= this isn't aimed at you, funky. thanks for the report. ;)
well good publicity.


Title: Re: Rolling Stone - We are in the throes of a Hair Metal Renaissance
Post by: FunkyMonkey on November 04, 2006, 01:58:48 PM
Yes, but they did say "former".


Title: Re: Rolling Stone - We are in the throes of a Hair Metal Renaissance
Post by: Mikkamakka on November 04, 2006, 02:03:16 PM
This GN'R is/was a hair metal band cracks me up. Can these guys imagine that a hairband writes songs like Welcome To The Jungle or Mr. Brownstone?  :-[  Yeah, they had some make-up during the early days, but their music wasn't hair metal at all.


Title: Re: Rolling Stone - We are in the throes of a Hair Metal Renaissance
Post by: PeterCoffin on November 04, 2006, 02:03:33 PM
Ugh, I hope hair metal doesn't come back. That would be very unfortunate.


Title: Re: Rolling Stone - We are in the throes of a Hair Metal Renaissance
Post by: JuicySwoos on November 04, 2006, 02:05:47 PM
This GN'R is/was a hair metal band cracks me up. Can these guys imagine that a hairband writes songs like Welcome To The Jungle or Mr. Brownstone?? :-[? Yeah, they had some make-up during the early days, but their music wasn't hair metal at all.

Good point.  What is hair metal?  The music?  Or how they dressed?  If its the music, then no way is/was GNR hair metal. If it is defined by dress, then GNR was.

I don't think GNR is hairmetal.


Title: Re: Rolling Stone - We are in the throes of a Hair Metal Renaissance
Post by: T_Roxie on November 04, 2006, 02:31:35 PM
Hairmetal is like motley crue, which they sound nothing like.


Title: Re: Rolling Stone - We are in the throes of a Hair Metal Renaissance
Post by: guns_n_motley on November 04, 2006, 02:40:12 PM
Hairmetal is like motley crue, which they sound nothing like.

but skid row sound nothing like motley crue, and ratt sound nothing like motley crue, and poison is pretty much a pop glam... the other bands are MUCH heavier...

Hair metal is defined by the LOOK, not necessicarily the music, which is why people lump bands like Poison who were poppy to say the least, with heavier bands like Motley Crue, Ratt, skid row. and lump them even further with bands like GNR, tesla etc....

hair metal is a term used to lump ALL 80s bands together...

Just like grunge lumps all early 90s bands together, but you wouldnt say soundgarden and AIC are really like nirvana etc..


ya know what I mean?? after the fact record companies make up these terms to bunch a ton of bands together... probably to sell to that demographic...

when theres a million different rock genres, its easy to lump a bunch of bands into one category



Title: Re: Rolling Stone - We are in the throes of a Hair Metal Renaissance
Post by: T_Roxie on November 04, 2006, 02:44:35 PM
True, it's all just rock n roll really.  No point trying to categorise it. :peace:


Title: Re: Rolling Stone - We are in the throes of a Hair Metal Renaissance
Post by: The Dog on November 04, 2006, 02:48:37 PM
Hair metal is a mis nomer, but its the easiest label to attach to the 80s rock scene - the average joe identifies all the rock music from that time as being hair metal (even though most of us here know not every band from that time was).  Its not worth getting all upset over.

I would love if that music came back.  It was fun, most of the guys could sing and you could tell people actually knew how to play their instruments - most of all you actually knew the names of the lead singers and guitarists and drummers of all those bands, even if you didn't like them.  Todays rock is just being mass produced.  If I hear one more nickelback/creed/three doors down sounding band I will scream.  I am convinced its one guy singing for all of those bands hahah


Title: Re: Rolling Stone - We are in the throes of a Hair Metal Renaissance
Post by: BKinNYC on November 04, 2006, 02:59:38 PM
Ugh, I hope hair metal doesn't come back. That would be very unfortunate.

Sorry, but I have to disagree.  Nothing can be worse than the shit hip-hop and rap that pollute today's "music" media and television. 

Someday, everyone's going to look back and say "wow, I can't believe that I used to like these guys talking over music.  That was stupid."


Title: Re: Rolling Stone - We are in the throes of a Hair Metal Renaissance
Post by: oldgunsfan on November 04, 2006, 03:02:22 PM
Other than GnR, Tesla was my favorite bands back then.....their music still holds up these days


Title: Re: Rolling Stone - We are in the throes of a Hair Metal Renaissance
Post by: guns_n_motley on November 04, 2006, 03:04:19 PM
Other than GnR, Tesla was my favorite bands back then.....their music still holds up these days

if you like tesla you might like Cinderella... contrary to their name(which is a horrible name for a band) their prett much a blues rock band...

"fallin apart at the seams" you might like htat song


Title: Re: Rolling Stone - We are in the throes of a Hair Metal Renaissance
Post by: JuicySwoos on November 04, 2006, 03:04:30 PM
Hairmetal is like motley crue, which they sound nothing like.

but skid row sound nothing like motley crue, and ratt sound nothing like motley crue, and poison is pretty much a pop glam... the other bands are MUCH heavier...

Hair metal is defined by the LOOK, not necessicarily the music, which is why people lump bands like Poison who were poppy to say the least, with heavier bands like Motley Crue, Ratt, skid row. and lump them even further with bands like GNR, tesla etc....

hair metal is a term used to lump ALL 80s bands together...

Just like grunge lumps all early 90s bands together, but you wouldnt say soundgarden and AIC are really like nirvana etc..


ya know what I mean?? after the fact record companies make up these terms to bunch a ton of bands together... probably to sell to that demographic...

when theres a million different rock genres, its easy to lump a bunch of bands into one category



Yuppers, if defined by the look, then GNR was hair metal. I would love for that type of rock to make a comeback. Frontmen which vocal range and ability, guitarists who can play a solo, and music that is fun and makes you feel good to listen to. Some of it may be cheesy, but it is a fun genre.


Title: Re: Rolling Stone - We are in the throes of a Hair Metal Renaissance
Post by: oldgunsfan on November 04, 2006, 03:26:50 PM
Other than GnR, Tesla was my favorite bands back then.....their music still holds up these days

if you like tesla you might like Cinderella... contrary to their name(which is a horrible name for a band) their prett much a blues rock band...

"fallin apart at the seams" you might like htat song

didn't like the singers voice


Title: Re: Rolling Stone - We are in the throes of a Hair Metal Renaissance
Post by: Dr. Blutarsky on November 04, 2006, 04:07:02 PM
Nothing ever truely comes back, its all nostalgia.

Some bands from back then were awesome and had their careers end too early because their brand of music fell out of favor. Other bands deserved to die.



Title: Re: Rolling Stone - We are in the throes of a Hair Metal Renaissance
Post by: Axl4Prez2004 on November 04, 2006, 05:08:19 PM
Does anyone remember the pics from the Hammerstein pre-party at Mustang Harry's?  I ask because my brother-in-law Paul was the one with the tats all over his back with a huge "'80's Metal" scrolled across his upper back with all the band names you guys have mentioned so far in this thread!  Personally, I think GNR transcended hair metal, and created something quite original.  GNR's mysterious journey that continues today proves they are truly one of a kind!   8)


Title: Re: Rolling Stone - We are in the throes of a Hair Metal Renaissance
Post by: The Legend on November 04, 2006, 05:10:04 PM
Since when was Baz or GN'R, hair metal? Have any of those jackasses over at RS ever listened to GN'R or Skid Row's music?

Anyways, good for Cinderella returning... Poison, you guys need to just go away. You were way past "it" a long time ago.

Def Leppard isn't metal, and never will be. It's pop-rock folks, and i'm never changing my mind. 'Photograph' is about as metal, as Michael Jackson's 'Smooth Criminal'.


Title: Re: Rolling Stone - We are in the throes of a Hair Metal Renaissance
Post by: Bandita on November 04, 2006, 05:19:41 PM
Since when was Baz or GN'R, hair metal? Have any of those jackasses over at RS ever listened to GN'R or Skid Row's music?

Anyways, good for Cinderella returning... Poison, you guys need to just go away. You were way past "it" a long time ago.

Def Leppard isn't metal, and never will be. It's pop-rock folks, and i'm never changing my mind. 'Photograph' is about as metal, as Michael Jackson's 'Smooth Criminal'.

See if you actually lived through this era as a teen as I did in the late 80's, these bands really were sort of lumped together, even though they produced different types of music.

We watched Headbangers Ball and read Rip and Metal Edge Magazine

Hair Metal isn't really meant as an insult, it is just a general lumping of music that emerged at that time (and of course how can we forget Axl's very own hair in Welcome to the Jungle)

Most of those bands faded with that time and it is probably better off that way but GNR was indeed one of the few that was able to transcend the image entirely

Baz/Skid Row was definitely considered hair metal back in the day, in fact I even saw them open for Def Leppard :hihi:



Title: Re: Rolling Stone - We are in the throes of a Hair Metal Renaissance
Post by: The Legend on November 04, 2006, 05:38:17 PM
Since when was Baz or GN'R, hair metal? Have any of those jackasses over at RS ever listened to GN'R or Skid Row's music?

Anyways, good for Cinderella returning... Poison, you guys need to just go away. You were way past "it" a long time ago.

Def Leppard isn't metal, and never will be. It's pop-rock folks, and i'm never changing my mind. 'Photograph' is about as metal, as Michael Jackson's 'Smooth Criminal'.

See if you actually lived through this era as a teen as I did in the late 80's, these bands really were sort of lumped together, even though they produced different types of music.

We watched Headbangers Ball and read Rip and Metal Edge Magazine

Hair Metal isn't really meant as an insult, it is just a general lumping of music that emerged at that time (and of course how can we forget Axl's very own hair in Welcome to the Jungle)

Most of those bands faded with that time and it is probably better off that way but GNR was indeed one of the few that was able to transcend the image entirely

Baz/Skid Row was definitely considered hair metal back in the day, in fact I even saw them open for Def Leppard :hihi:



Well, then again, Hair Metal didn't become a dirty word until after the genre died.


Title: Re: Rolling Stone - We are in the throes of a Hair Metal Renaissance
Post by: LittleFly on November 04, 2006, 05:43:14 PM
Since when was Baz or GN'R, hair metal? Have any of those jackasses over at RS ever listened to GN'R or Skid Row's music?

Anyways, good for Cinderella returning... Poison, you guys need to just go away. You were way past "it" a long time ago.

Def Leppard isn't metal, and never will be. It's pop-rock folks, and i'm never changing my mind. 'Photograph' is about as metal, as Michael Jackson's 'Smooth Criminal'.

See if you actually lived through this era as a teen as I did in the late 80's, these bands really were sort of lumped together, even though they produced different types of music.

We watched Headbangers Ball and read Rip and Metal Edge Magazine

Hair Metal isn't really meant as an insult, it is just a general lumping of music that emerged at that time (and of course how can we forget Axl's very own hair in Welcome to the Jungle)

Most of those bands faded with that time and it is probably better off that way but GNR was indeed one of the few that was able to transcend the image entirely

Baz/Skid Row was definitely considered hair metal back in the day, in fact I even saw them open for Def Leppard :hihi:



:hihi: OHHHH the number of memories just one post can bring back lol


Title: Re: Rolling Stone - We are in the throes of a Hair Metal Renaissance
Post by: Dr. Blutarsky on November 04, 2006, 06:09:16 PM
hair metal wasnt even a term untill the mid nineties.